This one is going to end badly....


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[b]A multi-agency manhunt is under way in California after police say the former Los Angeles police officer suspected in the murders of a college basketball coach and her fianc� last weekend is following through on his vow to kill police officers after he opened fire Wednesday night on three police officers, killing one, KTTV.com reported.

"In this case, we're his target," Sgt. Rudy Lopez from the Corona Police Department said at a press conference.

The suspect has been identified as Christopher Jordan Dorner, 33, and he is considered extremely dangerous, authorities say. The killings appear to be retribution for his 2009 termination from the Los Angeles Police Department for making false statements, authorities say.

The first shooting Wednesday night occurred in the city of Corona and involved two LAPD officers working a security detail, said Sgt. Alex Baez of the LAPD's Newton division. One officer was grazed.

The LAPD's elite Metropolitan squad was sent to protect others mentioned in Dorner's manifesto.

Later, two officers on routine patrol in the neighboring city of Riverside were ambushed in their patrol car at a stop light, said Riverside Lt. Guy Toussaint. One died and the other was in surgery.

The Riverside officers shot overnight were not actively looking for Dorner, authorities said.

Police don't know where Dorner is, but think he left the area, Toussaint said.

"We're asking our officers to be extraordinarily cautious just as we're asking the public to be extraordinarily cautious with this guy. He's already demonstrated he has a propensity for shooting innocent people. We can't provide a lot of information now because we're trying to capture him," said Cmdr. Andrew Smith. "We don't know where he is. We're looking for the public's help to locate this guy. Anybody who sees him or believes they see him or his vehicle should call 911."

Local police are taking an abundance of caution. Corona police have suspended its motorcycle patrol and all officers are teamed up with partners.

Police say at the time of his firing Dorner was represented by the father of one of his victims and posted a multi-page manifesto on his Facebook page about his termination.

"I never had the opportunity to have a family of my own, (so) I am terminating yours," Dorner's manifesto reportedly stated. Randy Quan's name was mentioned in the note. He represented Dorner at the hearing that led to Dorner�s firing. Quan's daughter, Monica Quan and her fianc� were shot dead in an Irvine parking garage Sunday night.

In the manifesto, Dorner wrote that Quan "suppressed the truth," which would lead to deadly consequences, The Orange County Register reported.

"Self preservation is no longer important to me. I do not fear death as a I died long ago on 1/2/09," Dorner wrote, according to the report. The paper said he was referencing the day he was fired from the LAPD. "I was told by my mother that sometimes bad things happen to good people."

Police said the U.S. Navy reservist may be driving a blue 2005 Nissan Titan pickup truck. His last known address was in La Palma in northern Orange County near Fullerton.

Dorner was with the department from 2005 until 2008, when he was fired for making false statements.

Autopsies showed that Quan and Lawrence were killed by multiple gunshot wounds in the parking structure at their condominium in Irvine, Orange County sheriff's spokesman Jim Amormino said earlier Wednesday.

Quan, 28, was an assistant women's basketball coach at Cal State Fullerton. Lawrence, 27, was a public safety officer at the University of Southern California.

Quan's father, a former LAPD captain who became a lawyer in retirement, represented Dorner in front of the Board of Rights, a tribunal that ruled against Dorner at the time of his dismissal, LAPD Capt. William Hayes told The Associated Press Wednesday night.

Randal Quan retired in 2002. He later served as chief of police at Cal Poly Pomona before he started practicing law.

According to documents from a court of appeals hearing in October 2011, Dorner was fired from the LAPD after he made a complaint against his field training officer, Sgt. Teresa Evans. Dorner said that in the course of an arrest, Evans kicked suspect Christopher Gettler, a schizophrenic with severe dementia.

Following an investigation, Dorner was fired for making false statements.

Richard Gettler, the schizophrenic man's father, gave testimony that supported Dorner's claim. After his son was returned on July 28, 2007, Richard Gettler asked "if he had been in a fight because his face was puffy" and his son responded that he was kicked twice in the chest by a police officer.

I hope one the good guys kills this turd soon.

Dink

Wow, this will be interesting to follow

Only cops and ex-cops should get to own semi auto rifles.

Frightful indeed if he is skilled and truly on a rampage. It does take a lot of commitment and work though to actually drop beneath the radar.

i'm glad he was trained in the use of firearms and proper use......what we need is a law that stops the bad guys = u and me..... from running a-muck

Not excusing what he did, but now I wonder if he was thrown under the bus to protect the other officer and a potential lawsuit against LAPD from the "kicking" incident?

Just work place Violence

Sure does sound like it.... and I dought there will be any re opening of the investigation (if there ever was one....) Afterall, the police have to look out for each other and have to trust one another... They cannot have one be willing to tell the truth about some other cop who did wrong.

This reads like a job for one Inspector Callahan.

Assuming he used a rifle, of course...

I don't know how to put this gently...but expect the cops to rally around each other, which will impact their ability to protect an already under-served public. I would probably do the same if I were a LEO. Another reason for the public to be armed, no?

This guy should have never been hired by LE and this is exactly what happens when you lower the hiring standards...This guy is a real psycho....living in a delusional world....

If you're a fat black guy in California with a blue pickup, expect to get your azz beat before they ask for your driver's license.

He picked the right state. It's a sure bed no civilian will be able to cap his azz.

Actually, standards have risen in recent years, as I understand it. Used to be you could be hired on LAPD without a polygraph. It's not that way now. They're not scrambling to hire unqualified people. Sounds like this one slipped through the initial cracks, but was found out during his probation period.

Not sure of the entire story, but my bud says Quan is "one of the good ones". As my bud is also "one of the good ones", I'd take his word on it over some jackass running around murdering people because he lost a job he had less than a year, and while he was still in training and probation.

You can't weed all of them out, but, as is obvious by this nutcases actions, they weeded HIM out, and now he's out for revenge and murdering innocent people.

Who would you believe? The guy is obviously quite a few fries short of a happy meal.

Was thinking the same thing...Might be a good day to call in sick.

Made me think of this...

DaveR...your buddy is right Quan is a good guy.....as for hiring standards that is what they would like every one to believe...they have changed some things but it seems they are short cutting the process to fulfill their hiring needs. Unfortunately you are right they will never be able to filter out all of the bad ones.

Sounds like he was fired to protect his superior's job, i.e., he was railroaded. Typical police corruption sort of thing.

There you go, projecting again.

The perp, if he hasn't already, will be unloading a round into his brain before too long.

He blows the whistle on corruption in the LAPD and gets fired. A cop who actually knows the difference between right and wrong and they fire him for it?

ML

He is a bad apple in a big barrel of good ones, PERIOD. There is NO "typical police corruption". That is a myth of the conspiracy theorist IMHO. I know way to many good cops as well as good teachers, EMS workers and Firefighters Etc. Even a few lawyers! The broad brush does discredit to the good and those that paint with it Hawk.

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And what is your authority for that?

We don't know all the facts and circumstances and should suspend judgement until more is known.

I have little sympathy for corrupt cops, politicians, judges, etc. If they fired him to save their sorry as.s they'll get their just rewards.

Yeah...he don't sound like a guy capable of lying to me.

I never knew anybody who could see so far into the past or the future, just by reading one news article.

They abound on the net Sir.

I wondered that, too.

In any case, he needs a 40 S&W trial and cheap burial.

So much for Background Checks and the supposition that you can tell who will and won't snap and start shooting who ever they feel like. If I remember right it was just a few months ago that it was a FBI agent in Long Beach, CA.

Phil

"Richard Gettler, the schizophrenic man's father, gave testimony that supported Dorner's claim. After his son was returned on July 28, 2007, Richard Gettler asked "if he had been in a fight because his face was puffy" and his son responded that he was kicked twice in the chest by a police officer."

Yeah............ I been kicked in the CHEST by cops lots of times and my FACE always got all swole up.

And I was in California at the time.

Strange place, that.

It's stated he's armed with 'an assault rifle'...

Huh... I thought the LEOs and military only had "personal defense rifles"..

if he makes it Mexico with the most secure boarder as its ever been. Obama may have splainin' to do.

ML

As per usual this guy is from the left.

His manifesto rails against the NRA, is Pro Gun Control, and loves Obama.

LA Shooters Manifesto





What�s the difference between posting 11 rambling pages and 21 rambling pages? Look at what�s taken out:

Pro Gun Control:


Who in there right mind needs a [bleep] silencer!!! who needs a freaking SBR AR15? No one. No more Virginia Tech, Columbine HS, Wisconsin temple, Aurora theatre, Portland malls, Tucson rally, Newtown Sandy Hook. Whether by executive order or thru a bi-partisan congress an assault weapons ban needs to be re-instituted. Period!!!

Mia Farrow said it best. �Gun control is no longer debatable, it�s not a conversation, its a moral mandate.�

Sen. Feinstein, you are doing the right thing in leading the re-institution of a national AWB. Never again should any public official state that their prayers and thoughts are with the family.

Loves Obama:


You disrespect the office of the POTUS/Presidency and Commander in Chief. You call him Kenyan, mongroid, halfrican, muslim, and FBHO when in essence you are to address him as simply, President. The same as you did to President George W. Bush and all those in the highest ranking position of our land before him. Just as I always have. You question his birth certificate, his educational and professional accomplishments, and his judeo-christian beliefs. You make disparaging remarks about his dead parents. You never questioned the fact that his former opponent, the honorable Senator John McCain, was not born in the CONUS or that Bush had a C average in his undergrad. Electoral Candidates children (Romney) state they want to punch the president in the face during debates with no formal repercussions. No one even questioned the fact that the son just made a criminal threat toward the President. You call his wife a Wookie. Off the record, I love your new bangs, Mrs. Obama.

Fan of Joe Biden:


Mr. Vice President, do your due diligence when formulating a concise and permanent national AWB plan. Future generations of Americans depend on your plan and advisement to the president. I�ve always been a fan of yours and consider you one of the few genuine and charismatic politicians.

For Hillary 2016:


Hillary Clinton. You�ll make one hell of a president in 2016. Much like your husband, Bill, you will be one of the greatest. Look at Castro in San Antonio as a running mate or possible secretary of state. He�s (good people) and I have faith and confidence in him. Look after Bill. He was always my favorite President.

Anti-NRA


Wayne LaPierre, President of the NRA, you�re a vile and inhumane piece of [bleep]. You never even showed 30 seconds of empathy for the children, teachers, and families of Sandy Hook.

MSNBC, CNN FAN:


Chris Matthews, Joe Scarborough, Pat Harvey, Brian Williams, Soledad Obrien, Wolf Blitzer, Meredith Viera, Tavis Smiley, and Anderson Cooper, keep up the great work and follow Cronkite�s lead. I hold many of you in the same regard as Tom Brokaw and the late Peter Jennings. Cooper, stop nagging and berating your guest, they�re your (guest). Mr. Scarborough, we met at McGuire�s pub in P-cola in 2002 when I was stationed there. It was an honor conversing with you about politics, family, and life.

Willie Geist, you�re a talented and charismatic journalist. Stop with all the talk show shenanigans and get back to your core of reporting.

Loves Piers Morgan:


�give Piers Morgan an indefinite resident alien and Visa card. Mr. Morgan, the problem that many American gun owners have with you and your continuous discussion of gun control is that you are not an American citizen and have an accent that is distinct and clarifies that you are a foreigner. I want you to know that I agree with you 100% on enacting stricter firearm laws

Said the guy has posted a manifesto listing some 40 people he intends to do away with! All of whom are being watched by county and city police.

Phil

Sorry boys there is no cover up....this guy is just a nutcase!!!!!!
A short career full of lies...tying to ruin the lives of some good LE officers.....have a good day every one....oh ya for you cop haters if you hate them so much then don't call 911 to protect you and fix your problems..JMO

He has an amazing command of the language for a..

never mind.

Hopefully he has allotted himself enough time to tap out the rest of his "manifesto" before this ends...

Saw a link saying LAPD has gunned down two innocents so far in the search for the shooter.

Oops.

That would be Torrance PD not LAPD

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I've not seen that. Could you post that link?

I know the shooter shot the daughter and one other of the man who represented him in his 2009 hearing. Said Quan, his counsel, lied. So, his kids needed to die.

Fox reporter said the "shootees" were not seriously injured.

That's gotta make the bad guy feel better about HIS chances.

You are right, knthartter.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/07/us/lapd-attacks/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/07/lapd-shooting-at-innocent-people_n_2638701.html

Press conference on FOX now.

This guy is not your average leftist crazy. He knows the play book and it appears he has been planning this for a while.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022329334#post3

I was LAPD not torrance....media just calified

You cops are starting to worry me.. reading huffington post and democratic underground? I felt sullied just looking at CNN.

sorry "clarified"

Corruption and unprofessional behavior is not something new to the LAPD, been enough videos of them [bleep] up to support that. I am not saying that what this guy is doing is right in anyway , but he's sure mad enough to make me believe there's definitely more than one side to this story, just surprised it took 3 years of getting mad enough to direct his anger!

Sounds like the police are a little out of control, themselves. They need to cool down and remember they also protect the public, not just fellow officers. This is going from bad to worse, it seems.

http://ktla.com/2013/02/07/women-de...hot-in-manhunt-for-ex-cop/#ixzz2KFABv5ND

Comes with any computer with a connection to the Campfire � includes also the ability to discern distant attitudes, motivations, biases, and IQs.

And the especially gifted need no news article.

It's in the software.

Back to the two civilians who were shot...

So if I'm deer hunting for does, I have to be able to pick out a whitetail doe from a mule deer doe since mule deer are protected in my unit.

But the elite forces of the California cops shoot 2 LADIES while hunting this guy? And the left likes us to think that only police should have guns since they are the only ones qualified?




PS: Not bashing cops.. well, maybe big city cops.

saw this on another story...

"Donner was also a Navy reservist who'd just finished his military career as a lieutenant Friday. His only overseas deployment was to a Navy base in Bahrain. He also received a Rifle Marksman Ribbon and Pistol Expert Medal, meaning he received superior scores when he tested at the range."




From Luv2Safari's article:

Police said the women were riding in a truck similar to the one that Dorner is believed to be driving � a blue or gray Nissan Titan.

Their blue pickup was riddled with bullet holes and what appeared to be newspapers were scattered in the street.


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Hmmm, so laguna is a black guy. I disnt picture that

LL Cool J best stay inside till all this blows over.

No $hit.

I'm inclined to agree with you.

Uncanny resemblence isnt it?

Hey.... do not worried about any civilians being shot... I am sure there will be aleast a 1/2 dozen cops and "by standers" come forward to say the cops were in grave danger..... not that this sort of stuff was what got the guy fired to begin with.... no telling the truth....

HA..!

The best we can hope for is that he off's himself.

So the LAPD doesn't freak out and shoot more innocent civilians driving blue trucks...

This would be a comedy of errors if it wasn't so sad.

woman shot in the back , must have been a really big Black Bitch to be mistaken for this Joe Fraser look alike.

lol

Hopefully there was time to take an acting coach with him to the safe-room...

No chit. JFC the cops are out of control and seem to be chitting in their panties with fear.

Anyone in Cali with a blue truck should stay home for fear of being wrongly gunned down by those sworn to protect and serve.

Of course it MUST be corruption in your addle minded twisted brain, right?

This guy was bad news, and he was weeded out during his probationary phase.

Who do you seriously think was right, Hawk? Two different field training officers who said this guy was a POS, or a guy that goes out and murders an innocent woman to punish her father who DEFENDED him in a hearing, but lost?

This guy sounds an awful lot like you....couldn't cut it as a cop, weeded out during the selection process or probation process, and forever blames other cops for his failing.

Otherwise it would make all the rest look bad.

Sorry Terry. I can't help myself.

Seriously, though, positions of power do tend to accumulate corrupt individuals. The more powerful the position, the more likely the corrupt will be favored. It's almost a mathematical certainty.

The first incident happened about 5:30 a.m. in the 19500 block of Redbeam Avenue. It involved Los Angeles police detectives from the Hollywood division.

Two women delivering newspapers were struck by gunfire. They were taken to area hospitals, Torrance police said.

Their blue pickup was riddled with bullet holes and what appeared to be newspapers were scattered in the street.

I read the news article within the context of an understanding of human nature in relation to positions of power. It's a very old story. Goes back into ancient history and before.

Officer safety, and all. That's all that counts. So long as they make it home at the end of their shifts, right?

Would that all were so wise.

Whats crazy is that they riddled the truck with bullets and only one woman was hit in the hand and one in the back. What do they say about how many gunfights in law enforcement with many rounds fired and no targets hit?.....grin

Bad stuff from this guy.

He was an O-3 in the Navy and graduated ATO and Naval Intelligence Officer Course.

It says they don't get enough firearms training. Training curriculum has changed because the genius leaders believe that recruits/cadets will need to be more fluent with a stinking computer than they are with a firearm.

Firearms training costs have skyrocketed due to ammunition costs and the unavailability of agency owned firing ranges. FATS machines are underutilized and decision based training is lacking.

All that adds up to costly mistakes being made by computer savvy non-shooters.

badge or no badge.

Indeed, sir, but you flatter me.

But he crossed the thin blue line. That cannot be tolerated.

If I had never been put in the position to have to arrest some of my own, your post wouldn't be nearly as offensive.

I all boils down to there is bad apples in this world....what ever profession you look Doctors, Lawyers, firemen, teachers, nurses, politician, clergymen, any and all professions have bad apples. The media just loves it when a LE officer [bleep] up or goes postal....no profession is exempt from bad people!!!!!

Are you justifying this guys actions? You do know that he plans on killing not only cops (much to your delight) but their family members as well. He's a sick sob and needs to be dealt with asap.

Here's the [b][color:#3333FF]Blue Truck link...![/color][/b]






This is supposedly the other vehicle that was rammed and then shot up, but can't find any link associated with it.








Looks like they're playing for keeps. Don't know how the misidentified have been able to walk away from these vehicles....

That's not a correct analysis. It ignores the tendency for power to accumulate corrupt individuals. This is received wisdom in Western thought. I didn't develop this concept on my own. Y'all were supposed to learn this by the time you graduated high school. I blame the teachers if you didn't.

Certainly not. One can seek to understand motive without considering actions justified.

It reminds me of 1930s gangland warfare.

Holy [bleep], that made me laugh!

I'll grant you that there were some sadistic teachers in high school who loved the job just for the power. Lord knows they couldn't teach their way out of a wet paper bag..

Not to anybody in particular here but...I find it hilarious that some have already tried, convicted and sentenced this ex-cop whereas how many times have we seen cops, plain as day on some video, beating the living shixt out of some retarded dude or grandma or some such and then been told to calm down and reserve judgement until all the facts are in? Since some seem to have forgotten it, I'd like to proffer that same advice.

Something nobody has mentioned yet. Why would the cops that shot up the innocent people in there truck no be charged with some sort of crime. They had ABSOLUTELY NO reason to shoot up the vehicles and people inside them. There was NO threat.

Hopefully they are being detained and will be charged.

As for the sick SOB that started all this, lets hope he takes a dirt nap soon.

I'm not a bettor, but if I was I'd give him about a ten percent chance at the outside, of ever coming to trial.

I could give a chit less what he was accused of, or if he was in fact innocent of that. Fact is that he is NOW running around ambushing and murdering innocent people connected to his sorry lot in life through nothing more than a familial connection or the fact they wear a law enforcement uniform.

Reserve judgment? You gotta be [bleep] kidding me!

Sounds insane, right?

KFI in LA says his truck was found burnt to the ground in the Big Bear area out in the stix...

They should be, and will be. You're right...there is no good excuse. They obviously did not have positive identifiction when they fired. And, even had they had that, there was no shots or act of aggression towards them which would warrant the shooting. The trucks were not even the same make OR model as the shooter's truck for christ sake.

These guys need to calm the hell down and identify their targets. I understand the anxiousness when you are assigned an area where an aggressor has a known target, has stated his intent, and a similar looking vehicle enters that area with its lights off, but come on!

There's gonna be some openings on the Torrance PD here very soon.

In the mean time, I think I'm leaving my pickup parked until this is resolved! Egads there's some very nervous, itchy trigger fingers out there in my neck of this hell hole right now.

You don't care if he's innocent of the initial charges? Let's say he is. If so, doesn't that make you skeptical of the subsequent ones?

As to the "reserving judgement"...I haven't seen any videos of him committing the crimes he's accused of. Now videos admittedly aren't 100% accurate and as those I've alluded to have so eloquently stated in the past, they can be taken out of context. Be that as it may, if you really want to get your vigilante/mob freak on, they are a lot more accurate than just total guesswork. So why, when you see a gang of cops nearly kill some diabetic or blind person due to non-violent, non-compliance, is that a cause for "reserving judgement" more so than some guy who we haven't seen any evidence on and who evidently once upon a time was a Lieutenant in the US Navy? I mean, at least you saw the cops beating the innocent people. Has there been some video put up of this guy murdering those he's accused of? All I know is he got dismissed from his LAPD job after being accused of lying in a whistleblower event.

Totally.

Better not try driving a burnt out truck in LA for a while...

...just say'n

You must be kidding, Mark. He wrote a Manifesto describing what he was going to do. He is the ID'd murderer of 3 people.
Your stretch is a huge escape from reality. He has burnt his car to the ground and is about ready to freeze his ass off before a big-woods stand-off.

Sorry but I'm not going to suspend disbelief for your comments for one second.

Sure his bio is impressive.

But after reading that manifesto - his strong affinity for Rambo movies is missing.

He's getting ready for a Rambo big-woods stand off as we speak if I understand his current whereabouts.

He is likely going to be executed on sight, based on what we've seen so far, thus will be unable to make any sort of incriminating statement.

If there had been a sentence or two about how physically impressive he was, or what a karate star he was, I'd have guessed BiqSqueeze was off his rocker.

Dumbest post of the year so far. I need not explain why.

Bingo, and that's even if he came out stark naked, waving a white flag, and escorted by a covey of nuns in full habbit.

He is likely going to be executed on sight, based on what we've seen so far, thus will be unable to make any sort of incriminating statement.
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Like most cowards, he'll put one through his brain when the reality grabs hold of him.

He had plenty of opportunities since being fired in '09 to clear the record or expose all this make-believe schit that routinely and automatically surfaces into the paranoid mind.

Thus far he has merely been accused of said actions.

Thus far he has merely been accused of said actions.
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So? That's generally the case for all guys on the run after committing murder sprees. You think you exposed some frikken phenomenon?

One car burnt up doesn't mean he didn't have another car to leave with.

Yeah Hawk,

It's a frame up Roger Rabbit. Probably a look-a-like hired by the LAPD killing all these folks so they can pin it on him.

Quit being a [bleep] loon and think about what you're saying.

It doesn't mean he did,either. At the base of Big Bear might offer up a clue though, don't you think?

What I'm saying is merely the case as it stands.

No, it's your perceived case from where you stand.

No fixing you're kind of stupid.

Lets hope so.

I hope they catch him and give him Ron Paul for an attorney.

Then we'll know for sure they're out to [bleep] him.

Just keep it down to a low roar and we will still get along Hawk.

As to the power comment, just look to our politicians, especially at the federal level. AND they have minions to do their dirty work, must not sully their actual hands. A few nuts do not even come close.

If that is the squad involved, I'd love to know what those bumper stickers read.

LAPD.. Clean as a whistle, for sure..

Sounds like this nutjob snapped & is doing some awful things that are certainly not justifiable, clearly.

This, however, does not mean the corruption he speaks of doesn't exist. Remember, LAPD.. Now you have guys blasting away at random blue trucks. JFC, if that don't beat all..

Probably says, "Kick Me" and "Have you seen my gun?"

I could read one of them...

"SHOOT'EM ALL
LET GOD SORT'EM OUT"

One question,

If he is supposed to be alone and you spotted a blue truck with a passenger, why would you attempt to shoot the passenger's head off? Look at the passenger side back window...

Could he have had a hostage?

Bad judgement all over this deal.

Oops

This, however, does not mean the corruption he speaks of doesn't exist
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His message of what he speaks of has kind of been lost in his delivery,imo.

If he is supposed to be alone and you spotted a blue truck with a passenger, why would you attempt to shoot the passenger's head off? Look at the passenger side back window...

Could he have had a hostage?

Bad judgement all over this deal.
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One minute you're a couple of maids on your way to clean some white guys toilets and then BAM-WTF.

The greater LA area must pay pretty well for newspaper routes.

I used my older brother's Schwinn he found by a swamp.

Some of you sound like bleeding heart libtards.

"Don't judge him, they may have railroaded the poor fella. He is the true victim."

He's had years to address any grievences thru the legal system. He chose to start murdering innocent people instead.

Even if he was railroaded, it in know way excuses what he has done and his actions prove that he should never have been a cop in the first place.

Geez.

The guy is nothing but a typical puzzy, his manifesto has grievances going back to the first grade when someone called him a racial slur. Reminds me of Gus, constantly whining about being drafted, get over it fellas.

LOL. The Homie they borrowed that ride from is gonna be pissed that the LAPD shot his truck to schit too.

Geeeezzzzzzzzzz! Unleashed that barrage for just being in a blue pickup! What could the occupants have done to deserve that? That will cost the city enough to pay about 200 LEO's for several years.

Sincerely glad that I do not live in that environment. Those that should be exercising the most control and restraint have completely lost it. Their superiors should resign too.

In our lowly hunter ed classes it's emphasized that one should be sure of their target. Did those guys not get some similar advice when dropping the hammer on fellow humans?

The person they're after better surrender to a chaplin or news paper reporter if he has any expectation of living through the apprehension.

On the bright side, once they have their settlement they can hire some white boys to come clean their toilet... I bet those cops will be looking for work.

this guy cant be very smart

why in the frigg do you wanna try to ambush cops by holing up in the woods






hanging out around a dunkin donuts is the place to be to ambush cops i would think
get em while they are walking with their box of donuts trying to balance a couple of cups of coffee on top of it on the way back to the cruiser





































jk

Somebody probably needs to clean those poor maid's britches.

And from the looks of it, I'm betting the cops schit themselves as soon as they saw that blue truck.

Are we sure this guy isnt Laguna/raisuli?

Just a SWAG, but I'll bet this is far from over and he isn't looking for a place to make a stand just yet.

Can't find the Left one...

Middle



Right

Could be, lets all remember to check in with Bob and Steve from time to time until this all blows over.

You have bad eyes...better get them checked, along with those LA PD that shot up the two newspaper deliverers.






If that is the squad involved, I'd love to know what those bumper stickers read. laugh



I could read one of them...

"SHOOT'EM ALL
LET GOD SORT'EM OUT"


whistle

Especially since Ron Paul is a physician by profession.

No doubt. Maybe it shouldn't be lost, though. It is LAPD. That said, hopefully this guy gets deaded, quick. Nothing good can come of an extended rampage, especially now that random folks are being attacked by popo in a rabid frenzy to catch/kill this [bleep] nut.

Big Bear is in San Bernadina County if I recall correctly from 50 years ago. Any cops he encounters there won't be LAPD, which is supposed to be the ones he is pissed at.

Badge found near San Diego, and pickup [supposedly] found near Big Bear sounds like he is leaving a trail he wants followed.

There is probably a B movie script that's being followed by him.

there's decent yote and quail hunting in the area he is probably holed up in out near lucerne valley.


ML

I gots a bad feeling as well. This D Bag might be a bit more wiley than most of your run-o-the mill [bleep].


As to the cops that shot up that truck? WTF? Just lookin' for a new job ain't gonna cut it. Those fuggin jackals need to be locked up for a loooong time.

Of course. But they won't be. Different set of rule for the armed retainers of our ruling elite than for the peasantry.

Probably a rap video made already extolling his exploits.

WOW!

In light of his "manifesto," at least we can be thankful that he's NOT a conservative white guy. The press would have 'round the clock coverage while the "racist, far-right, NRA member is hunted by authorities."

If more folks reacted as drastically as this guy as it regards police corruption I bet the cops would think twice before tazing a citizen for not signing the ticket.

They all look the same to me.

"You're"? tff

So what? Everybody here knows that we aren't, from past behavior. It's just like saying that sometimes you don't sound retarded...

As a resident of So.Kali, I'm more afraid of being shot by our local LEO's than by Mr. Dorner. How in the world do trained LEO's mistake 2 women in a Toyota pickup for a big black bald guy in Nissan Titan? On a similar note, does a black Honda Ridgeline look like a blue Nissan Titan? Supposed professionals acting like amateurs in a vigilante mob.

Not at all Bob. For years on here blatant cases of police brutality, corruption and the like have been posted, many times in video form. Some of them have just quietly went away while others have went completely through the system with the cops being proven guilty and punished in some manner or another. All that time we've been told to reserve judgement in the face of pretty damning evidence. I'm cool with that. I actually believe in the concept of innocent until proven guilty and that everybody should have access to counsel. The problem is that advice isn't being followed here by some who, in the past have offered it up. This guy hasn't been convicted of anything and the evidence is no more damning than a lot of the bad cop videos that have been posted. Once again, my powers of explanation fail me beyond these words. They seem pretty simple to me.

I'm not taking up for him. I'm not advocating the words put up and claimed that they're "his" manifesto. I'm not advocating killing cops. I'm not saying he's right if he was railroaded. In fact, I'll say he deserves justice of the harshest sort if he is guilty of all this stuff. I'm just parroting back the exact same things that have been repeated over and over and over again on here in the past.

Lots of lyrics just wait'n to be rhymed with manifesto.

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Snow on the ground and they have his foot tracks. A 2 mile search perimeter with blood hounds has been established. Near the ski resort, though.

Countdown is on.

[b][color:#3333FF]A 3rd individual was mistaken[/color][/b] for Dorner in a parking lot, taken out of his vehicle at gunpoint and handcuffed until it was learned he was a resident of Portland.

I'll be surprised if innocent folks aren't accidentally killed before this is over...

Yeah, just like you've "merely been accused" of being a total and complete douchebag several hundred times. Hell, that's gotta be a conservative estimate...this has been happening to you your entire life, not just on this forum.

Hawk...do you ever just look in the mirror and wonder to yourself how you got so batchit [bleep] crazy and stupid? I mean really, when you're this [bleep] nuts...do you realize it? Or are you just blissfully blind to the fact you're an obsessed lunatic?

I give it 10 years max, and you'll be sitting in a corner somewhere smearing your own feces on yourself while poking pins in some Barny Fife doll...

Aaah..

Send out the drones.

They should've smoked that sorry mfer. I mean, looking like that guy? Might as well look like Hitler.

Lift ticket or not, no blending in well with the other skiers.

tree him

Choosing a escape route with a half a foot of snow on the ground isn't that well thought out, imo.

This guy may be dead before dark. Hope he doesn't take out one of the dogs before he offs himself.

I smell a trap. Why bother burning the vehicle? Conceal evidence? Hide his fingerprints? DNA? Hell, it ain't like they don't know it's his..

Dayum, if I was this dude, I'd be laying low for a while!

Bet they don't even turn the hounds loose.

yup, hes setting them up.

They'll zero in on him from the air.

Dorner sent Anderson Cooper a package containing a challenge coin he got from the LAPD Chief. The coin had 3 bullet holes in it and he wrote 1 MOA on a note.

Dummy Cooper supposed 1 MOA meant Imagine a More Open America.

Nice shootin, Elmer Fudd Take THEIR 30 round Mags away.

Would've already been done. He's gone, IMO.

Columbo, look on the ground near the driver's side door.

It's "Law Enforcement Day" at the ski resorts.

What Would Rambo Do ?

00 buckshot would be my guess.

Yep, looks like three distinct rounds of buckshot. Maybe a couple from a pistol.

Didn't see that WAP.
Don't matter.
Lighting up a target without knowing what it is, is bad medicine.

Ask ANY Game Warden if you have a chance.

Ethan Edtard,

You got the dumbass post of the year so far pal.

It's there for all to see.

The good news is I'm confident you will top it 3-4 times before the weekend.

Get a job.
Stay out of Wal-Mart.

No doubt about it, those dudes are running on adrenaline, Redbull, and a whole bunch of dumbazz and someone better reign them the hell in! That's crazy chitt.

They can locate and somewhat contain him fairly easily.

Just let that turd sit out there for 3-4 days.

No sense in getting someone else hurt. He'll kill himself eventually.

This is undeniably true.

Wasn't it Barak's prediction that that day would eventually come?

I wonder on whom the irony of that post is lost.

They don't consider the value of the lives of non-fraternity members to be equal to their own.

I dunno...didn't see that post but it's something I've looked forward to for quite awhile now.

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Law Enforcement Officers have been ambushed and killed since day 1. Now Barak has predicted it?

You boys sure have your finger on the pulse on what's to come.

Let me try. I sadly predict another cop will be shot and killed during a traffic stop before the end of summer.

Good chance he car-jacked somebody, then set his pickup on fire.

May be in Vegas by now.

You can bet that the cops are down at their CP with their thumbs up their asses.

It's what they ALWAYS do when they are up against a bad hombre.

Can't blame 'em.

To those who've chosen never to open their eyes, the sighted must seem quite off their rockers.

They're in a door to door now up at the resort area. I think they'd be able to know by the foot tracks as to whether he made off in a car or is still on foot.

Nv Hiway Patrol is aware of the possibility he'll be driving into their state.

12 hours or less, imo.

Fill us in, who got tased for not signing a ticket?

No matter what the reasoning for this guys rampage is....... He is not helping any of us on the gun control issue...... Just another wound to our second amendment...... Just another dumb chit, doing dumb chit things with a firearm.... He don't need captured.....he needs removed from society...... And spirit separated from flesh.... Asap....

Guy drives up to the mountains, dumps his vehicle, and law enforcement automatically assumes and devotes all their resources up in said mountains!

This guy has planed and executed his plans more efficiently than any of these guy's as far as I can remember...

Wonder what makes them think he didn't have another vehicle up there and is long gone while everyone is searching those mountains...

Phil

They brought in their best trackers?

He's the wrong color and this will be yesterday's news, hopefully tomorrow.

Guy drives up to the mountains, dumps his vehicle, and law enforcement automatically assumes and devotes all their resources up in said mountains!

This guy has planed and executed his plans more efficiently than any of these guy's as far as I can remember...
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This guy isn't thinking traffic stop shoot out.

Neither myself nor Hawkeye were referring to isolated cases Matlock. Your first clue would have been my "If more" preface.

Let me give it a try.....I sadly predict that cops will harm and kill more innocent people by the end of summer than the number of cops killed in the same time frame.

BREAKING NEWS_

Hawk & Barak predict officers will be killed in line of duty!

The sad fact is the irony of your stupidity is only lost on you Hawk.

It's readily apparent and on display for everyone else.

A thread posted on here the other day.

You're welcome to search for it, in fact I'm surprised you missed it.

Figured that was the one you were talking out of yer azz about. Dumbazz didn't get tased for not signing a ticket, but I know you and your boyfriend The_Real_Browneye can't see past the end of your noses.

Neither myself nor Hawkeye were referring to isolated cases Matlock. Your first clue would have been my "If more" preface.
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Did you confuse me with someone who gives a schit as to what you or Hawkeye might have been referring to?

I was simply addressing the stupidity. The handle behind it is of little concern to me. I'll let you two battle for who was the most idiotic.

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Predisposed quackery does that to simple men.

I guess we could use this thread to attack each other, or we could use it to post updates as they are received.

Does anyone really wonder what we will do?

Sycamore

San Berdoo Sheriff giving press conference on CNN live right now.

Sure he did. The pig even stated that as the reason (ie not following "orders")

Come on 'puti....get your fat as.s on down to Cali and lend your sisters some help. You bein' the tough talkin', gun slingin' bad as.s you should be helping out family.

Sadly you choose to flap your gums online....

If nothing else you, dink, hunter1960, gitem, magnumbdouche and others prove what some of us already know....

Give update if you will. Can't put it on now.

Your nearsightedness is comical. He most certainly got tased for "not following orders", but it wasn't for not signing a ticket. I suppose you'd let someone keep their hands in their pockets, blade off, and then walk back to their vehicle?

Keep talkin' chitbird. You're a veritable well of comedic material.

Routine drill. Can't discuss what was found in his pickup. It's been taken to San Berdoo where LAPD and Riverside cops will assist in the investigation of it.

Main focus now is warning the community.

Will assume he is in the area until evidence suggests otherwise.

Ducked a reporters question about whether dogs have been used yet.

Or should I say, "your". lol

He won't get it.

Hannity on Fox-

going door to door, blood hounds, 2 mile radius, darkness coming on, storm tonight, fog and snow coming.

Sycamore

"12 hours or less, imo."

You are predicting what a bona fide, batschitt crazy,guy is gonna do, and WHEN a bunch of Keystone Cops will put him down.

Hell, next thing we know , we'll see you predicting the outcome of football games.

If you start predicting female behavior, we'll know you have lost it.

looking back through history, turns out, most who thought themselves "sighted" were just nuttier than squirrel chit.....

San Diego then Riverside now Big Bear. The perp is heading north. That puts my area in his path. I'm loading up some extra guns and placing them around the house tonight.

Just a little extra security.

I smell a two, maybe three part movie franchise baby!

You are predicting what a bona fide, batschitt crazy,guy is gonna do, and WHEN a bunch of Keystone Cops will put him down.
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Nope. I'm assuming he's inside the 2 mile radius.

He wouldn't last in Montana for more than a couple of hours due to extreme weather and armed rednecks...

Hand in glove.

For a second I thought there might have been some truth to it, but seeing as it was posted here...

I hope he mentioned that all law abiding citizens should load up their 30 round magazines. Lock & Load!

Hawk and Etard living up to their full potential.



One can't keep a job and the other lives with Mommy. Both, in some respects are like the nut job running around Cali tonight.

Misunderstood and angry that their genius has not been acknowledged by the masses. Cheated and kept down by those jealous of their ROTC service and their vast experience in nothingness.

laffin'

Yeah, He knows the difference between right and wrong and thats why he is out hunting cops and on the lamb. TFF

That pic HAS to be photoshopped. There is no f'in way the aisles are that wide.

Once upon a time you made a jackasss of yourself saying that I was a reenactor. I've never been a reenactor. What's really rich is that you hadn't told anybody at the time, that you were big into Cowboy Action Shooting. Yet you made fun of somebody for "dressing up" when you yourself did it and you were wrong about the guy you thought you were making fun of. "Can't keep a job." Wtf? I work for myself as a farmer. I've got enough education I could get a job as something else right now if I wanted one. As far as cheated and kept down or whatever, I don't know what "your" talking about and it is obvious you don't as well. Keep talking and educating us on your lack of both intelligence and knowledge of anything other than wanting to murder a guy for trying to buy your wife's calf or calling negroes "apes" because you thought they looked at you funny. lol

Personally, I think you knew the truth at the time just like now, but prefer to be a lying scumbag. You can KMA.

I still think this guy is Laguna. He has been interestingly absent in this thread

He is just trying to formulate his argument in opposition to the majority here. Sometimes it takes him a while.

Maybe he joined in on the manhunt

You never know.

Well. I can totally see him losing it and goin postal with all his conspiracy theories. He would probably be screaming RON PAUL everytime he pulled the trigger

And RaGu WILL find his man!

Nor the uniform that clean and the store lighting that soft.

If'n he dont get sidetracked by tranny chasin

That wrench fits more than a few nuts here.

Let's see: alleged perp LOVES Piers Morgan, LOVES Obama, LOVES gun control.......the chattering class will NOT be able to pin this one on the TEA Party.


P.S. LAPD can go to hell, they're worthless JBT's for shooting up two unrelated vehicles in their blind lust to kill ANYBODY right now. I'll remember this the next time The People On TV try to tell me about the Superior-Super-Secret-Ninja-Training cops receive that entitles Them And ONLY Them to possess 'assault weapons'.

A spike in accidental discharges is imminent before this ends.

Let's wait and see what the cops have to say about shooting into that vehicle as they did. These maids could have pointed a bottle of Windex at these cops in a threatening fashion for all we know. Plus, everyone knows Hispanic maids with their Swifters are like Japs with their Samurai swords.

The main thing is that they made it home tonight

Well done.

I hope this becomes a LARGE part of the story line, not the disgruntled employee.

And probably in premature ones as well.

Good time to lock up the outbuildings, take the keys out of the ignition, visor, ashtray, etc, lock up the vehicles, and lock the doors and windows. don't want that surprise inside the house at 2AM.

Good luck!

Sycamore

The main thing is that they made it home tonight
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That isn't specific to cops.

On the West Coast ?

Under the bed, NOW !

I thought he was talking about the two maids...

[bleep] Keystone cops.

No it's not.

What is specific to cops is that they are the ones that get away with shooting innocent people that posed NO threat, didn't match the description and did so with NO regard for the other innocents/bystanders.

If their chickensh.it, scared and worthless as.ses aren't in jail right now...well THAT right there IS CRIMINAL. 2 sets of realities..1 for "civilians" the other for "pigs".

This guy is a big fan of Obama and the leftist media. His political leanings are being suppressed by the progressive fascist media.

I just hope he gets suppressed by someone before he shoots another innocent person and Etard starts saying he's been railroaded and is misunderstood again.

With this guy shooting folks and the cops busting up blue pickups, everyone will be safer the sooner this guy gets caught or killed.

I hope they kill him before the cops shoot up more innocent people.

Whatever happened with his job, it doesn't have anything to do with the people he is killing. He is a Wacko. If he hasn't done the right thing by now, he'll get caught soon enough. Probably won't need a trial either.

Alan

John I gotta apologize. I didn't know you were on here again yet, and I edited my last post to you. Just so you don't miss it, I figured I'd inform you so you can go back and read it again and get the full benefit. Please be sure and read the part where I called you a liar and told you to kiss my ass.

I double dog dare someone to call in and say you saw him in a white Honda Accord..

Etard,

Get a job.

Post up that ROTC pic again and insinuate you served Mr. wannabe.

You're an idiot and a fraud.

Remember a year or so ago when ol Chief Beck swore up and down that he had the right man and pretty much guaranteed a conviction of the so called man that did the beating at Dodger Stadium.... guy was Innocent, and was shown that they had absolutely no evidence to indicate why they or anyone else thought that he was the guy who did the beatings. Then flat refused to apologize or even release the so called perp, then turned around and between him and the courts convicted the guy on a parole violation because the person that owned the home where he was staying had a gun... which isn't even illegal!

Crooked doesn't even start to describe LAPD. Not in any way trying to say what this guy is doing is right... But Ol'e Charlie isn't going to be looking all that great again if evidence comes out that this guy was right all along. Black rookie used as a scape goat to cover up a cop beating by senior training officer. Guy had two things going against him from the start, being black and being a rookie... Hell the guy was only on the force for 2-1/2 years from what I've heard and one year of that was served in the military overseas.

What the hell was the guy thinking turning on his own and telling what really happened on a bust where the perp was beatin... heck that happens every day, and to snitch on his partner...

And as far as being black, to the LAPD a black officer is just a small notch above the scum they are out arresting.

Phil

Soliciting a false report isn't good.....and stopping at the "double dog dare" is reckless on your part.

Whadda'bout the sinister triple dog dare?

Dang,another crazy white redneck rightwinger bumpkin going crazy. Musta been the Playstation and Mountain Dew

So, the wanted man is like 270 pounds. I'm thinking of switching from #4 buck to 00 and swapping out the 9mm on the night stand with 158gr JSP and my 357 magnum. Sound about right?

Hey Bore hole

Maybe you and Etard can put on your Ron Paul hats and Members Only jackets and go hang at the mall this weekend.

Can't blame play station and dew for making you two ass hats such baffoons...bad DNA did that.

I'm sure you girls are swapping PM's and giggling.

For all that is holy Plinker, plug in that cell phone too.

Prayers sent !

I'd rather Plinker be shooting at him than the LAPD...

Think stopping power here man.

Bigger, gooey holes will save your day !

Aww the liberal from Washington is trying to act like he knows something. I guess he is showing he's a libtard.

Tell us again what you would do if only you could have been a policeman.

What do you do beside try to act tough on the net?

Dink

Would much rather work with 00 buck than #4 out of a twelve gauge.

As for the 9mm or .357 question, I wouldn't be afraid to work with the 9mm, but I'd be prepared to send them in swarms.

I'd have blown his brains out, sh.it in the open wound and called my masterpiece dink. That mess would be at least as useful as you.

Happy now?

Good movie--------I've got it on DVD. This ex-LAPD clown is not cut from the same cloth.

You're wrong yet again.

I promise not to shoot the guy delivering the morning paper.

Assessment: Fired in 2008. Waits until now to act. Preplanned for a long time. Everything was in place before he squeezed the trigger the first time. He is long gone from the AO and the Cops searching will be subject to mental and physical exhaustion along with the very debilitating effects of the weather. NOW they will start making serious mistakes. Stress and fatigue will do that to you. If he planned it out as thoroughly as I think he did, when the searchers start [bleep] up, he will hit somewhere else far away. Pic in uniform wearing Army Captains' bars. No stranger to detailed planning. Unless he gets nailed by accident, this will likely get very very ugly for a lot of people. Most cops do not have the background or training to deal with someone who does. They operate within the parameters of their training and he knows just what those are. He can predict their actions well before they take the action. When he decides to start shooting again he will be even more deadly.

I hope some civilian with a high-cap-equipped AR drills him.

The media won't know what to say.

Even the best laid plans go awry.

Hoping this [bleep] trips on his own d!ck and gets waxed ASAP.

What if he is the perp?

Think through all the scenarios brother... your family is counting on it !!

I think that's an accurate assessment.

I hope this is resolved before the LAPD goes to war with everyone in America driving a truck. It'd be ironic, considering the tension in the U.S, if the LAPD was the catalyst for nation-wide unrest.

Mad Trapper of Rat River! Dude!


Sycamore

He was fired in 08. It took until late 11 I think to get through a couple lawsuits and appeals so his planning was for a little over a year if he didn't start untill the final judgement.
LAPD has all the detailed planners and resources they need. It isn't just LAPD involved. San Bernardino, Los Angeles county sheriffs department, CHP and lots of local PD's too. A big guy on foot at 8000 ft. in 10 degree weather can't outrun the cops. My guess is the burning truck was a red herring and he's off the hill.

That would be the best ending for this sorry mess. That civilian would be gone over with a fine toothed comb, unfortunately, and better not have a parking ticket unpaid!

Sycamore

Sad but true Sycamore....sad but true. The police would take it as an afront to their power if a citizen did what they couldn't. Times have changed.

That would work. Especially if it was a 75 year old woman, or a mother of two toddlers on her way to the market.

Aren't most AR's banned in Cali? I know you can own them as long as certain features aren't present, sort of like the Fed AWB was, but AR's aren't very common...at least out in the open, are they?

I personally would not be out looking to snipe this guy. For one thing, I was not kidding when I basically said let it play out in the courts. It amazes me that some of our LEO's are basically advocating this guy's assassination rather than bringing him in. Not even looking at the right or wrong of it, what if this guy was ex-LEO and had just killed some average citizens? Would there be a hue and cry for his head over that? Would it even be that newsworthy?

Why not bring him in by the book and let it play out in the courts?

If I had my family living in that country there wouldn't be any danger of "waking up" at 2 am. I'd already be up.

As to the stuff he supposedly had on his Blog, anybody can simulate you online. Who knows if he even wrote it? Again, probably he did, but why not let everything be investigated thoroughly, preferably by an entity other than the LAPD.

It's all the Keyboard Kommandos calling for his execution, hell, in the manifesto he says he won't live through this event.

Does this guys behavior not show that LAPD got it right firing this guy? Do you all have manifestos in case something in life doesn't go your way? He is educated and has a BA masters degree in psychology. He could probably ace the psych eval and then fall apart in the field. I know people like that. They can't see that the thing out of kilter in their lives is them. The shot up "maids" had their lights off and were swerving down the street. They were delivering newspapers. Still bad but not what is being told around here.

Ethan----There are at least 2 standards (many more actually) but 2 general standards; 1 is for us peasants which specifies.. always follow the law. The old.. "If you aren't breaking the law you have nothing to fear "argument.

The other is for cops to do whatever it takes to exact justice on the perceived lawbreaker. Irregardless of the cost, irregardless of the law.

What I'm saying is that those that want complete obedience to the law are the first to disregard it, as long as it serves their purpose.

JIM MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY. HE HAS PLANNED THIS FOR TO LONG. he is where he wants to be to put up HIS fight. he will try to kill others on his list if possible, before he is nailed down.

he has the other teams play book.

The RISJR jinx still works..



Still saying he had another vehicle nearby. If he prepped for this for even a month, it makes no sense he'd have panicked and headed high into the mountains and torched his only ride out. He wasn't even being pursued as far as we know. It would have been just as easy to have prepped a hide with food/water/heaters cache and hidden the vehicle. Another possibility is that he did torch his ride out, and already carjacked somebody and is who knows where.

Hopefully he's just freezing to death in some barn tonight and they'll find him in the morning. But not holding my breath..

I would not be surprised he is enroute back to LA to finish in his crazy mind his masterpiece...

...it makes no sense he'd have panicked and headed high into the mountains and torched his only ride out. He wasn't even being pursued as far as we know.

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He probably torched it so the cops would quit shootin' up every blue pickup they saw, thereby saving innocent lives.

you're a [bleep] stick

LOL...

If you had a choice rockcu.nt, would you rather see the cops kill an innocent bystander or one of the LAPD that covered up corruption? It should be an easy answer...even for a complete and utter apologetic douchebag like you.

what corruption do you speak of cu.nt? i stand by the words i spoke. did you?

Upchucker---Are you really as stupid as you sound?

The alleged corruption by the alleged perpetrator.

You really need to catch up kiddo...

Rockcu.nt--- Answer my question. Don't be the pus.sy we all know you to be.... prove us wrong and be strong....you're online now little guy. Don't be afraid.

unless you were there . you know of no corruption. he was washed out by 2 FTO. he couldn't make the grade. could you? i've got my time in.

you know as much as i do. your judgement call, is know better than mine.

Be a duck, bro. There will always be sissies hiding in the shadows rooting for the bad guys.

9mm head shot would do.

This guy is smarter than the average crook, but that ain't saying much. He tryed to steal a boat in San Diego, but got tangled in the lines and had to abort. Not much of a plan.

What are these particular cops DOING to become exhausted?

They are going door to door to all the houses warning residents.

That's it.

Staying up for a couple of days will do that.

"around here" has no meaning when you hide your location.

Are you a cop?

In Ca,?

It ain't like them LAPD cops could rest easy if they were sent home.

The ultimate victim.
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From: Christopher Jordan Dorner /7648
To: America

Subj: Last resort

Regarding CF# 07-004281

I know most of you who personally know me are in disbelief to hear from media reports that I am suspected of committing such horrendous murders and have taken drastic and shocking actions in the last couple of days. You are saying to yourself that this is completely out of character of the man you knew who always wore a smile wherever he was seen. I know I will be vilified by the LAPD and the media. Unfortunately, this is a necessary evil that I do not enjoy but must partake and complete for substantial change to occur within the LAPD and reclaim my name. The department has not changed since the Rampart and Rodney King days. It has gotten worse. The consent decree should never have been lifted. The only thing that has evolved from the consent decree is those officers involved in the Rampart scandal and Rodney King incidents have since promoted to supervisor, commanders, and command staff, and executive positions.

The question is, what would you do to clear your name?

Name;
A word or set of words by which a person, animal, place, or thing is known, addressed, or referred to.

Name Synonyms;
reputation, title, appellation, denomination, repute.

A name is more than just a noun, verb, or adjective. It�s your life, your legacy, your journey, sacrifices, and everything you�ve worked hard for every day of your life as and adolescent, young adult and adult. Don�t let anybody tarnish it when you know you�ve live up to your own set of ethics and personal ethos.

In 8/07 I reported an officer (Ofcr. -----/now a Sergeant), for kicking a suspect (excessive force) during a Use of Force while I was assigned as a patrol officer at LAPD�s Harbor Division. While cuffing the suspect, (-----), ----- kicked the suspect twice in the chest and once in the face. The kick to the face left a visible injury on the left cheek below the eye. Unfortunately after reporting it to supervisors and investigated by PSB (internal affairs investigator Det. -----), nothing was done. I had broken their supposed �Blue Line�. Unfortunately, It�s not JUST US, it�s JUSTICE!!! In fact, 10 months later on 6/25/08, after already successfully completing probation, acquiring a basic Post Certificate, and Intermediate Post Certificate, I was relieved of duty by the LAPD while assigned to patrol at Southwest division. It is clear as day that the department retaliated toward me for reporting ----- for kicking Mr. -----. The department stated that I had lied and made up the report that ----- had kicked the suspect. I later went to a Board of Rights (department hearing for decision of continued employment) from 10/08 to 1/09. During this BOR hearing a video was played for the BOR panel where ----- stated that he was indeed kicked by Officer ----- (video sent to multiple news agencies). In addition to ----- stating he was kicked, his father -----, also stated that his son had stated he was kicked by an officer when he was arrested after being released from custody. This was all presented for the department at the BOR hearing. They still found me guilty and terminated me. What they didn�t mention was that the BOR panel made up of Capt. -----, Capt. -----, and City Attorney ----- had a significant problem from the time the board was assembled. Capt. ----- was a personal friend of ----- from when he was her supervisor at Harbor station. That is a clear conflict of interest and I made my argument for his removal early and was denied. The advocate for the LAPD BOR was Sgt. -----. ----- also had a conflict of interest as she was ----- friend and former partner from Harbor division where they both worked patrol together. I made my argument for her removal when I discovered her relation to ----- and it was denied.

During the BOR, the department attempted to label me unsuccessfully as a bully. They stated that I had bullied a recruit, -----, in the academy when in reality and unfounded disposition from the official 1.28 formal complaint investigation found that I was the one who stood up for ----- when other recruits sang nazi hitler youth songs about burning Jewish ghettos in WWII Germany where his father was a survivor of a concentration camp. How [bleep] dare you attempt to label me with such a nasty vile word. I ask that all earnest journalist investigating this story ask Ofcr. ----- about the incident when Ofcr. ----- began singing a nazi youth song about burning jewish ghettos.

The internal affairs investigation in the academy involving ----- was spurned by a complaint that I had initiated toward two fellow recruit/offifcers. While assigned patrol footbeat in Hollywood Division, Officers ----- and ----- (both current LAPD officers) decided that they would voice their personal feelings about the black community. While traveling back to the station in a 12 passenger van I heard ----- refer to another individual as a [bleep]. I wasn�t sure if I heard correctly as there were many conversations in the van that was compiled of at least 8 officers and he was sitting in the very rear and me in the very front. Even with the multiple conversations and ambient noise I heard Officer ----- call an indivdual a [bleep] again. Now that I had confirmed it, I told ----- not to use that word again. I explained that it was a well-known offensive word that should not be used by anyone. He replied, �I�ll say it when I want�. Officer -----, a friend of his, also stated that he would say [bleep] when he wanted. At that point I jumped over my front passenger seat and two other officers where I placed my hands around -----� neck and squeezed. I stated to -----, �Don�t [bleep] say that�. At that point there was pushing and shoving and we were separated by several other officers. What I should have done, was put a Winchester Ranger SXT 9mm 147 grain bullet in his skull and Officer -----�s skull. The Situation would have been resolved effective, immediately. The sad thing about this incident was that when Detective ----- from internal affairs investigated this incident only (1) officer (unknown) in the van other than myself had statements constistent with what actually happened. The other six officers all stated they heard nothing and saw nothing. Shame on every one of you. Shame on Detective ----- (same ethnicity as -----) for creating a separate 1.28 formal complaint against me (----- complaint) in retaliation for initiating the complaint against ----- and -----. Don�t retaliate against honest officers for breaking your so-called blue line. I hope your son -----, who I knew, is a better officer than you, Detective -----. The saddest part of this ordeal was that Officer ----- and ----- were only given 22 day suspensions and are still LAPD officers to this day. That day, the LAPD stated that it is acceptable for fellow officers to call black officers [bleep] to their face and you will receive a slap on the wrist. Even sadder is that during that 22 day suspension ----- and ----- received is that the LAPPL (Los Angeles Police Protective League) paid the officers their salaries while they were suspended. When I took a two-day suspension for an accidental discharge, I took my suspension and never applied for a league salary. Its called integrity.

Journalist, I want you to investigate every location I resided in growing up. Find any incidents where I was ever accused of being a bully. You won�t, because it doesn�t exist. It�s not in my DNA. Never was. I was the only black kid in each of my elementary school classes from first grade to seventh grade in junior high and any instances where I was disciplined for fighting was in response to fellow students provoking common childhood schoolyard fights, or calling me a [bleep] or other derogatory racial names. I grew up in neighborhoods where blacks make up less than 1%. My first recollection of racism was in the first grade at Norwalk Christian elementary school in Norwalk, CA. A fellow student, ----- if I can recall, called me a [bleep] on the playground. My response was swift and non-lethal. I struck him fast and hard with a punch an kick. He cried and reported it to a teacher. The teacher reported it to the principal. The principal swatted ----- for using a derogatory word toward me. He then for some unknown reason swatted me for striking ----- in response to him calling me a [bleep]. He stated as good Christians we are to turn the other cheek as Jesus did. Problem is, I�m not a [bleep] Christian and that old book, made of fiction and limited non-fiction, called the bible, never once stated Jesus was called a [bleep]. How dare you swat me for standing up for my rights for demanding that I be treated as an equal human being. That day I made a life decision that i will not tolerate racial derogatory terms spoken to me. Unfortunately I was swatted multiple times for the same exact reason up until junior high. Terminating me for telling the truth of a Caucasian officer kicking a mentally ill man is disgusting. Don�t ever call me a [bleep] bully. I want all journalist to utilize every source you have that specializes in collections for your reports. With the discovery and evidence available you will see the truth. Unfortunately, I will not be alive to see my name cleared. That�s what this is about, my name. A man is nothing without his name. Below is a list of locations where I resided from childhood to adulthood.

Cerritos, CA.
Pico Rivera, CA.
La Palma, CA.
Thousand Oaks, CA.
Cedar City, UT.
Pensacola, FL.
Enid, OK.
Yorba Linda, CA.
Las Vegas, NV.

During the BOR an officer named, Sgt. -----, from Los Angeles Port Police testified on behalf of the LAPD. ----- stated for the BOR that he arrived at the location of the UOF shortly before I cuffed the suspect. He also stated that he assisted in cuffing the suspect and that�s old the BOR he told me to fix my tie. All of those statements were LIES!!! -----, you arrived at the UOF location up to 30 seconds after I had cuffed Mr.-----. All you did was help me lift the suspect to his feet as it was difficult for me to do by myself because of his heavy weight. You did not tell me to fix my tie as the BOR members and everyone else in the room know you lied because the photographic evidence from the UOF scene where -----�s injuries were photographed clearly shows me wearing a class B uniform on that day. A class B uniform is a short sleeved uniform blouse. A short sleeved uniform blouse for the LAPD does not have a tie included. This is not Super Troopers uniform, you jackass. Why did you feel the need to embellish and lie about your involvement in the UOF? Are you ashamed that you could not get hired on by any other department other than port police? Do you have delusions of grandeur? What you did was perjury, exactly what ----- did when she stated she did not kick -----.

What they failed to mention in the BOR was ----- own use of force history during her career on the LAPD. She has admitted that she has a lengthy use of force record and has been flagged several times by risk management. She has a very well known nickname, Chupacabra, which she was very proud to flaunt around the division. She found it very funny and entertaining to draw blood from suspects and arrestees. At one point she even intentionally ripped the flesh off the arm of a woman we had arrested for battery (sprayed her neighbor with a garden water hose). Knowing the woman had thin elastic skin, she performed and Indian burn to the woman�s arm after cuffing her. That woman was in her mid-70�s, a mother and grandmother, and was angry at her tenants who failed to pay rent on time. Something I can completely understand and I am sure many have wanted to do toward tenants who do not pay their rent. ----- was also demoted from a senior lead officer rank/position for performance issues. During my two months of working patrol with -----, I found her as a woman who was very angry that she had been pulled from patrol for a short time because of a domestic violence report made by Long Beach Police Department because of an incident involving her active LAPD officer boyfriend, -----, and herself. ----- is the same officer investigated for witness tampering. She also was visibly angry on a daily basis that she was going to have to file for bankruptcy because her ex-husband, a former LAPD officer and not -----, who had left the department, state, and was nowhere to be found had left her with a tax bill and debt that she was unable to pay because of a lack of financial means. -----, you are a POS and you lied right to the BOR panel when ----- asked you if you kicked -----. You destroyed my life and name because of your actions. Time is up. The time is now to confess to -----.

I ask that all journalist investigating this story submit request for FOIA with the LAPD to gain access to the BOR transcripts which occurred from 10/08 to 2/09. There, you will see that a video was played for the BOR members of Mr. ----- who suffers from Schizophrenia and Dementia stating that he was kicked by a female officer. That video evidence supports my claim that ----- kicked him twice in the upper body and once in the face. I would like all journalist to also request copies of all reports that I had written while employed by LAPD. Whether in the academy, or during my 3 years as a police officer. There are DR#�s attached to each report (investigative report) that I have ever written so they all exist. A FOIA request will most likely be needed to access these at Parker center or at the Personnel/Records. Judge my writin/grammar skills for yourself. The department attempted to paint me as an officer who could not write reports. Even though Sgt. ----- a training officer who trained me stated for the BOR panel that there was nothing wrong with my report writing and that I was better than all rookie/probationer officers he has ever trained. Officer ----- stated the same but refused to testify as he did not want to �get involved� with the BOR�s. Contact Sgt. -----,(now a Captain at Lompoc PD), Sgt. -----, and Sgt. -----. All will state that my report writing was impeccable. I will tell you this, I always type my reports because I have messy handwriting/penmanship. I never had a single kickback/redlined report at Southwest division and Sgt. ----- and Sgt. ----- can testify to that. I never received an UNSATISFACTORY on any day or week. The same can be said within the U.S. Naval Reserves. All commanders will state that my report writing was always clear, concise, and impeccable. Even search my AAR (after action reports),chits, Memorandum�s, IIR�s (Intelligence Information Reports) which were written in the Navy. All were pristine.

I had worked patrol at LAPD�s Harbor Division from 2/06 until 7/06 when I was involuntarily recalled back to active duty (US Navy) for a 12 month mobilization/deployment to Centcom in support of OIF/OEF. I returned back to LAPD�s Harbor division on 7/07 and immediately returned to patrol. I worked at Harbor division until 11/07 where I then transferred to Southwest Division. I worked At Southwest division until 6/25/08 when I was relieved of duty.

I have exhausted all available means at obtaining my name back. I have attempted all legal court efforts within appeals at the Superior Courts and California Appellate courts. This is my last resort. The LAPD has suppressed the truth and it has now lead to deadly consequences. The LAPD�s actions have cost me my law enforcement career that began on 2/7/05 and ended on 1/2/09. They cost me my Naval career which started on 4/02 and ends on 2/13. I had a TS/SCI clearance(Top Secret Sensitive Compartmentalized Information clearance) up until shortly after my termination with LAPD. This is the highest clearance a service member can attain other than a Yankee White TS/SCI which is only granted for those working with and around the President/Vice President of the United States. I lost my position as a Commanding Officer of a Naval Security Forces reserve unit at NAS Fallon because of the LAPD. I�ve lost a relationship with my mother and sister because of the LAPD. I�ve lost a relationship with close friends because of the LAPD. In essence, I�ve lost everything because the LAPD took my name and new I was INNOCENT!!! -----, -----, -----,----- and ----- all new I was innocent but decided to terminate me so they could continue Ofcr. -----. I know about the meeting between all of you where ----- attorney, -----, confessed that she kicked ----- (excessive force). Your day has come.

I�m not an aspiring rapper, I�m not a gang member, I�m not a dope dealer, I don�t have multiple babies momma�s. I am an American by choice, I am a son, I am a brother, I am a military service member, I am a man who has lost complete faith in the system, when the system betrayed, slandered, and libeled me. I lived a good life and though not a religious man I always stuck to my own personal code of ethics, ethos and always stuck to my shoreline and true North. I didn�t need the US Navy to instill Honor, Courage, and Commitment in me but I thank them for re-enforcing it. It�s in my DNA.

Luckily I don�t have to live everyday like most of you. Concerned if the misconduct you were apart of is going to be discovered. Looking over your shoulder, scurrying at every phone call from internal affairs or from the Captains office wondering if that is the day PSB comes after you for the suspects you struck when they were cuffed months/years ago or that $500 you pocketed from the narcotics dealer, or when the other guys on your watch beat a transient nearly to death and you never reported the UOF to the supervisor. No, I don�t have that concern, I stood up for what was right but unfortunately have dealt with the reprocussions of doing the right thing and now losing my name and everything I ever stood for. You [bleep] knew ----- was guilty of kicking (excessive force) ----- and you did nothing but get rid of what you saw as the problem, the whistleblower. ----- himself stated on video tape ( provided for the BOR and in transcripts) he was kicked and even his father stated that his son said he was kicked by ----- when he was released from custody. The video was played for the entire BOR to hear. You�re going to see what a whistleblower can do when you take everything from him especially his NAME!!!

Look what you did to Sgt. ----- (now lieutenant) when he exposed the truth of your lying, racism, and PSB cover-ups to frame and convict an innocent man. You can not police yourselves and the consent decree was unsuccessful. Sgt. -----, I met you on the range several times as a recruit and as an officer. You�re a good man and I saw it in your eyes an actions.

Self Preservation is no longer important to me. I do not fear death as I died long ago on 1/2/09. I was told by my mother that sometimes bad things happen to good people. I refuse to accept that.

From 2/05 to 1/09 I saw some of the most vile things humans can inflict on others as a police officer in Los Angeles. Unfortunately, it wasn�t in the streets of LA. It was in the confounds of LAPD police stations and shops (cruisers). The enemy combatants in LA are not the citizens and suspects, it�s the police officers.

People who live in glass houses should not throw stones. How ironic that you utilize a fixed glass structure as your command HQ. You use as a luminous building to symbolize that you are transparent, have nothing to hide, or suppress when in essence, concealing, omitting, and obscuring is your forte.

-----, this is when you need to have that come to Jesus talk with Sgt. ----- and everyone else who was involved in the conspiracy to have me terminated for doing the right thing. you also need to speak with her attorney, -----, and his conversation with the BOR members and her confession of guilt in kicking Mr. -----. I�ll be waiting for a PUBLIC response at a press conference. When the truth comes out, the killing stops.

Why didn�t you charge me with filing a false police report when I came forward stating that ----- kicked Mr. -----? You file criminal charges against every other officer who is accused and terminated for filing a false police report. You didn�t because you knew I was innocent and a criminal court would find me innocent and expose your department for suppressing the truth and retaliation, that�s why.

The attacks will stop when the department states the truth about my innocence, PUBLICLY!!! I will not accept any type of currency/goods in exchange for the attacks to stop, nor do i want it. I want my name back, period. There is no negotiation. I am not the state department who states they do not negotiate with terrorist, because anybody with a Secret or TS/SCI has seen IIR�s on SIPR and knows that the US state department always negotiates by using CF countries or independent sovereign/neutral country to mediate and compromising.

This department has not changed from the ----- and ----- days. Those officers are still employed and have all promoted to Command staff and supervisory positions. I will correct this error. Are you aware that an officer (a rookie/probationer at the time) seen on the Rodney King videotape striking Mr. King multiple times with a baton on 3/3/91 is still employed by the LAPD and is now a Captain on the police department? Captain ----- is now the commanding officer of a LAPD police station (West LA division). As a commanding officer, he is now responsible for over 200 officers. Do you trust him to enforce department policy and investigate use of force investigations on arrestees by his officers? Are you aware ----- has since promoted to Sergeant after kicking Mr. ----- in the face. Oh, you Violated a citizens civil rights? We will promote you. Same as LAPD did with the officers from Metro involved in the May Day melee at MacArthur Park. They promoted them to Sergeant (a supervisor role).

No one is saying you can�t be prejudiced or a bigot. We are all human and hold prejudices. If you state that you don�t have prejudices, your lying! But, when you act on it and victimize innocent citizens and fellow innocen officers, than that is a concern.

For you officers who do the job in the name of JUSTICE, those of you who lost honest officers to this event, look at the name of those on the BOR and the investigating officers from PSB and ----- and ask them, how come you couldn�t tell the truth? Why did you terminate an honest officer and cover for a dishonest officer who victimized a mentally ill citizen.

Sometimes humans feel a need to prove they are the dominant race of a species and they inadvertently take kindness for weakness from another individual. You chose wrong.

Terminating officers because they expose a culture of lying, racism (from the academy), and excessive use of force will immediately change. PSB can not police their own and that has been proven. The blue line will forever be severed and a cultural change will be implanted. You have awoken a sleeping giant.

I am here to change and make policy. The culture of LAPD versus the community and honest/good officers needs to and will change. I am here to correct and calibrate your morale compasses to true north.

Those Caucasian officers who join South Bureau divisions (77th,SW,SE, an Harbor) with the sole intent to victimize minorities who are uneducated, and unaware of criminal law, civil law, and civil rights. You prefer the South bureau because a use of force/deadly force is likely and the individual you use UOF on will likely not report it. You are a high value target.

Those Black officers in supervisory ranks and pay grades who stay in south bureau (even though you live in the valley or OC) for the sole intent of getting retribution toward subordinate caucasians officers for the pain and hostile work environment their elders inflicted on you as probationers (P-1′s) and novice P-2�s. You are a high value target. You perpetuated the cycle of racism in the department as well. You breed a new generation of bigoted caucasian officer when you belittle them and treat them unfairly.

Those Hispanic officers who victimize their own ethnicity because they are new immigrants to this country and are unaware of their civil rights. You call them wetbacks to their face and demean them in front of fellow officers of different ethnicities so that you will receive some sort of acceptance from your colleagues. I�m not impressed. Most likely, your parents or grandparents were immigrants at one time, but you have forgotten that. You are a high value target.

Those lesbian officers in supervising positions who go to work, day in day out, with the sole intent of attempting to prove your misandrist authority (not feminism) to degrade male officers. You are a high value target.

Those Asian officers who stand by and observe everything I previously mentioned other officers participate in on a daily basis but you say nothing, stand for nothing and protect nothing. Why? Because of your usual saying, � I��don�t like conflict�. You are a high value target as well.

Those of you who �go along to get along� have no backbone and destroy the foundation of courage. You are the enablers of those who are guilty of misconduct. You are just as guilty as those who break the code of ethics and oath you swore.

Citizens/non-combatants, do not render medical aid to downed officers/enemy combatants. They would not do the same for you. They will let you bleed out just so they can brag to other officers that they had a 187 caper the other day and can�t wait to accrue the overtime in future court subpoenas. As they always say, �that�s the paramedics job�not mine�. Let the balance of loss of life take place. Sometimes a reset needs to occur.

It is endless the amount of times per week officers arrest an individual, label him a suspect-arrestee-defendant and then before arraignment or trial realize that he is innocent based on evidence. You know what they say when they realize an innocent man just had his life turned upside down?. �I guess he should have stayed at home that day he was discovered walking down the street and matching the suspects description. Oh well, he appeared to be a dirtbag anyways�. Meanwhile the falsely accused is left to pick up his life, get a new, family, friends, and sense of self worth.

Don�t honor these fallen officers/dirtbags. When your family members die, they just see you as extra overtime at a crime scene and at a perimeter. Why would you value their lives when they clearly don�t value yours or your family members lives? I�ve heard many officers who state they see dead victims as ATV�s, Waverunners, RV�s and new clothes for their kids. Why would you shed a tear for them when they in return crack a smile for your loss because of the impending extra money they will receive in their next paycheck for sitting at your loved ones crime scene of 6 hours because of the overtime they will accrue. They take photos of your loved ones recently deceased bodies with their cellphones and play a game of who has the most graphic dead body of the night with officers from other divisions. This isn�t just the 20 something year old officers, this is the 50 year old officers with significant time on the job as well who participate.

You allow an officer, -----, to attempt to hack into my credit union account and still remain on the job even when Det. ----- shows the evidence that the IP address (provided by LAPFCU) that attempted to hack into my account and change my username and password leads directly to her residence. You even allow this visibly disgusting looking officer to stay on the job when she perjures (lies) in court (Clark County Family Court) to the judge�s face and denies hacking into my personal credit union online account when I attempted to get my restraint order extended. Det. ----- provided the evidence and you still do nothing.

How do you know when a police officer is lying??? When he begins his sentence with, �based on my experience and training�.

No one grows up and wants to be a cop killer. It was against everything I�ve ever was. As a young police explorer I found my calling in life. But, As a young police officer I found that the violent suspects on the street are not the only people you have to watch. It is the officer who was hired on to the department (pre-2000) before polygraphs were standard for all new hires and a substantial vetting in a backround investigation.

To those children of the officers who are eradicated, your parent was not the individual you thought they were. As you get older,you will see the evidence that your parent was a tyrant who loss their ethos and instead followed the path of moral corruptness. They conspired to hide and suppress the truth of misconduct on others behalf�s. Your parent will have a name and plaque on the fallen officers memorial in D.C. But, In all honesty, your parents name will be a reminder to other officers to maintain the oath they swore and to stay along the shoreline that has guided them from childhood to that of a local, state, or federal law enforcement officer.

Your lack of ethics and conspiring to wrong a just individual are over.
Suppressing the truth will leave to deadly consequences for you and your family. There will be an element of surprise where you work, live, eat, and sleep. I will utilize ISR at your home, workplace, and all locations in between. I will utilize OSINT to discover your residences, spouses workplaces, and children�s schools. IMINT to coordinate and plan attacks on your fixed locations. Its amazing whats on NIPR. HUMINT will be utilized to collect personal schedules of targets. I never had the opportunity to have a family of my own, I�m terminating yours. -----, -----, -----, and BOR members Look your wives/husbands and surviving children directly in the face and tell them the truth as to why your children are dead.

Never allow a LAPPL union attorney to be a retired LAPD Captain,(-----). He doesn�t work for you, your interest, or your name. He works for the department, period. His job is to protect the department from civil lawsuits being filed and their best interest which is the almighty dollar. His loyalty is to the department, not his client. Even when he knowingly knows your innocent and the BOR also knows your innocent after ----- stated on videotape that he was kicked and ----- attorney confessed to the BOR off the record that she kicked -----.

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants-TJ. This quote is not directed toward the US government which I fully support 100%. This is toward the LAPD who can not monitor itself. The consent decree should not have been lifted, ever.

I know your TTP�s, (techniques, tactics, and procedures). Any threat assessments you generate will be useless. This is simple, I know your TTP�s and PPR�s. I will mitigate any of your attempts at preservation. ORM is my friend. I will mitigate all risks, threats and hazards. I assure you that Incident Command Posts will be target rich environments. KMA-367 license plate frames are great target indicators and make target selection even easier.

I will conduct DA operations to destroy, exploit and seize designated targets. If unsuccessful or unable to meet objectives in these initial small-scale offensive actions, I will reassess my BDA and re-attack until objectives are met. I have nothing to lose. My personal casualty means nothing. Just alike AAF�s, ACM�s, and AIF�s, you can not prevail against an enemy combatant who has no fear of death. An enemy who embraces death is a lose, lose situation for their enemy combatants.

Hopefully you analyst have done your homework. You are aware that I have always been the top shot, highest score, an expert in rifle qualifications in every unit I�ve been in. I will utilize every bit of small arms training, demolition, ordnance, and survival training I�ve been given.

Do you know why we are unsuccessful in asymmetrical and guerrilla warfare in CENTCOM theatre of operations? I�ll tell you. It�s not the inefficiency of our combatant commanders, planning, readiness or training of troops. Much like the Vietnam war, ACM, AAF, foreign fighters, Jihadist, and JAM have nothing to lose. They embrace death as it is a way of life. I simply don�t fear it. I am the walking exigent circumstance you created.

The Violence of action will be HIGH. I am the reason TAC alert was established. I will bring unconventional and asymmetrical warfare to those in LAPD uniform whether on or off duty. ISR is my strength and your weakness. You will now live the life of the prey. Your RD�s and homes away from work will be my AO and battle space. I will utilize every tool within INT collections that I learned from NMITC in Dam Neck. You have misjudged a sleeping giant. There is no conventional threat assessment for me. JAM, New Ba�ath party, 1920 rev BGE, ACM, AAF, AQAP, AQIM and AQIZ have nothing on me. Do not deploy airships or gunships. SA-7 Manpads will be waiting. As you know I also own Barrett .50′s so your APC are defunct and futile.

You better have all your officers radio/phone muster (code 1) on or off duty every hour, on the hour.
Do not attempt to shadow or conduct any type of ISR on me. I have the inventory listing of all UC vehicles at Piper Tech and the home addresses of any INT analyst at JRIC and detachment locations. My POA is always POI and always true. This will be a war of attrition and a Pyrrhic and Camdean Victory for myself. You may have the resources and manpower but you are reactive and predictable in your op plans and TTP�s. I have the strength and benefits of being unpredictable, unconventional, and unforgiving. Do not waste your time with briefs and tabletops.

Whatever pre-planned responses you have established for a scenario like me, shelve it. Whatever contingency plan you have, shelve it. Whatever tertiary plan you've created, shelve it. I am a walking exigent circumstance with no OFF or reset button. JRIC, DOJ, LASD, FBI and other local LE can't assist and should not involve themselves in a matter that does not concern them. For all other agencies, do not involve yourself in this capture or recovery of me. Look at the big picture of the situation. They (LAPD) created the situation. I will harm no outside agency unless it is a deadly force/IDOL situation. With today's budgeting and fiscal mess, you guys can not afford lose several officers to IOD or KIA/EOW. Plus, other officers should not have to take on the additional duties and responsibilities of dead officers. Think about their families, outside agencies, Chiefs/Directors.

Outside agencies and individual officers on patrol. If you recognize my vehicle, and confirm it is my vehicle thru a dmv/want warrant check. It behoves you to respond to dispatch that your query was for information purposes only. If you proceed with a traffic stop or attempt to notify other officers of my location or for backup you will not live to see the medal of valor you were hoping to receive for your actions. Think before you attempt to intervene. You will not survive. Your family will receive that medal of valor posthumously. It will gather dust on the fireplace mantel for years. Then one day, it will go in a shoe box with other memories. Your mother will lose a son or daughter. Your significant other will be left alone, but they will find someone else to fill your void in the future and make them just as happy. Your children, if you have them, will call someone else mommy or daddy. Don't be selfish. Your vest is only a level II or IIIA, think about it.

No amount of IMINT, MASINT, and ELINT assist you in capturing me. I am off the grid. You better use your feet, tongue and every available DOD/ NON-DOD HUMINT agency, contractor to find me. I know your route to and from home, and your division. I know your significant others routine, your children's best friends and recess. I know Your Sancha's gym hours and routine. I assure you that the casualty rate will be high. Because of that, no one will remember your name. You will merely be a DR# and "that guy" who was KIA/EOW or long term IOD/light duty in the kit room. This is exactly why "station 500″ was created. Unfortunately, orphanages will be making a comeback in the 21st century.

The Violence of action will be HIGH. I am the reason TAC alert was established. I will bring unconventional and asymmetrical warfare to those in LAPD uniform whether on or off duty.
If you had a well regulated AWB, this would not happen. The time is now to reinstitute a ban that will save lives. Why does any sportsman need a 30 round magazine for hunting? Why does anyone need a suppressor? Why does anyone need a AR15 rifle? This is the same small arms weapons system utilized in eradicating Al Qaeda, Taliban, and every enemy combatant since the Vietnam war. Don't give me that crap that its not a select fire or full auto rifle like the DoD uses. That's bullshit because troops who carry the M-4/M-16 weapon system for combat ops outside the wire rarely utilize the select fire function when in contact with enemy combatants. The use of select fire probably isn't even 1% in combat. So in essence, the AR-15 semiautomatic rifle is the same as the M-4/M-16. These do not need to be purchased as easily as walking to your local Walmart or striking the enter key on your keyboard to "add to cart". All the firearms utilized in my activities are registered to me and were legally purchased at gun stores and private party transfers. All concealable weapons (pistols) were also legally register in my name at police stations or FFL's. Unfortunately, are you aware that I obtained class III weapons (suppressors) without a background check thru NICS or DROS completely LEGALLY several times? I was able to use a trust account that I created on quicken will maker and a $10 notary charge at a mailbox etc. to obtain them legally. Granted, I am not a felon, nor have a DV misdemeanor conviction or active TRO against me on a NCIC file. I can buy any firearm I want, but should I be able to purchase these class III weapons (SBR's, and suppressors) without a background check and just a $10 notary signature on a quicken will maker program? The answer is NO. I'm not even a resident of the state i purchased them in. Lock n Load just wanted money so they allow you to purchase class III weapons with just a notarized trust, military ID. Shame on you, Lock n Load. NFA and ATF need new laws and policies that do not allow loopholes such as this. In the end, I hope that you will realize that the small arms I utilize should not be accessed with the ease that I obtained them. Who in there right mind needs a [bleep] silencer!!! who needs a freaking SBR AR15? No one. No more Virginia Tech, Columbine HS, Wisconsin temple, Aurora theatre, Portland malls, Tucson rally, Newtown Sandy Hook. Whether by executive order or thru a bi-partisan congress an assault weapons ban needs to be re-instituted. Period!!!

Mia Farrow said it best. "Gun control is no longer debatable, it's not a conversation, its a moral mandate."

Sen. Feinstein, you are doing the right thing in leading the re-institution of a national AWB. Never again should any public official state that their prayers and thoughts are with the family. That has become cliche' and meaningless. Its time for action. Let this be your legacy that you bestow to America. Do not be swayed by obstacles, antagaonist, and naysayers. Remember the innocent children at Austin, Kent, Stockton, Fullerton, San Diego, Iowa City, Jonesboro, Columbine, Nickel Mines, Blacksburg, Springfield, Red Lake, Chardon, Aurora, and Newtown. Make sure this never happens again!!!

In my cache you will find several small arms. In the cache, Bushmaster firearms, Remington precision rifles, and AAC Suppressors (silencers). All of these small arms are manufactured by Cerberus/Freedom Group. The same company responsible for the Portland mall shooting, Webster , NY, and Sandy Hook massacre.

You disrespect the office of the POTUS/Presidency and Commander in Chief. You call him Kenyan, mongroid, halfrican, muslim, and FBHO when in essence you are to address him as simply, President. The same as you did to President George W. Bush and all those in the highest ranking position of our land before him. Just as I always have. You question his birth certificate, his educational and professional accomplishments, and his judeo-christian beliefs. You make disparaging remarks about his dead parents. You never questioned the fact that his former opponent, the honorable Senator John McCain, was not born in the CONUS or that Bush had a C average in his undergrad. Electoral Candidates children (Romney) state they want to punch the president in the face during debates with no formal repercussions. No one even questioned the fact that the son just made a criminal threat toward the President. You call his wife a Wookie. Off the record, I love your new bangs, Mrs. Obama. A woman whose professional and educational accomplishments are second to none when compared to recent First wives. You call his supporters, whether black, brown, yellow, or white, leeches, FSA, welfare recipients, and ni$&er lovers. You say this openly without any discretion. Before you start with your argument that you believe I would vote for Obama because he has the same skin color as me, [bleep] you. I didn't vote in this last election as my choice of candidate, John Huntsman, didn't win the primary candidacy for his party. Mr. President, I haven't agreed with all of your decisions but of course I haven't agreed with all of your predecessors decisions. I think you've done a hell of a job with what you have been dealt and how you have managed it. I shed a tear the night you were initially elected President in 2008. I never thought that day would occur. A black man elected president in the U.S. in my lifetime. I cracked a smiled when you were re-elected in 2012 because I really didn't think you were going to pull that one off. Romney, stop being a sore loser. You could've exited graciously and still contributed significantly to public service, not now. Mr. President, get back to work. Many want to see you fail as they have stated so many times previously. Unfortunately, if you fail, the U.S. fails but your opponents do not concern themselves about the big picture. Do not forget your commitment to transparency in your administration. Sometimes I believe your administration forgets that. America, you will realize today and tomorrow that this world is made up of all human beings who have the same general needs and wants in life for themselves, their kin, community, and state. That is the freedom to LIVE and LOVE. They may eat different foods, enjoy different music, have different dialects, or speak a second language, but in essence are no different from you and I. This is America. We are not a perfect sovereign country as we have our own flaws but we are the closest that will ever exist.

Unfortunately, this is not the first time an authoritative figure has lied on me.

-----, assistant principal, Cypress HS. Remember when you lied to my mother and the police officer in your office about stating that you never stated to me in a private conversation that you know the theft suspect (-----) stole my watch. Let me refresh your memory. A physical education teachers assistant, a student, stole the list of combination codes to peoples lockers, from the P.E. teacher. That student then opened many of those lockers and stole students personal property. My watch was taken in that multi theft an I reported it to you. A week later you discovered that the theft suspect was -----, a student. You stated to me in private that you know for a fact he stole my property. When I attempted to retrieve my property from the suspect. Campus security was called and you lied and stated that you never stated to me that you "know he stole my watch". You sat there and lied to their faces right in front of me. You said it with such a deliberate, stern face. I never forgot that and was not surprised when 13 years later I was lied on again in the BOR by -----. maybe you can confess to your family at the very least in the private of your own home. After that, contact my mother and apologize for lying to her in 1996.

If possible, I want my brain preserved for science/research to study the effects of severe depression on an individual's brain. Since 6/26/08 when I was relieved of duty and 1/2/09 when I was terminated I have been afflicted with severe depression. I've had two CT scans during my lifetime that are in my medical record at Kaiser Permanente. Both are from concussions resulting from playing football. The first one was in high school, 10/96. The second was in college and occurred in 10/99. Both were conducted at Kaiser Permanente hospitals in LA/Orange county. These two CT scans should give a good baseline for my brain activity before severe depression began in late 2008.

Sure, many of you "law enforcement experts and specialist" will state, "in all my years this is the worst........", Stop!!! That's not important. Ask yourselves what would cause somebody to take these drastic measures like I did. That's what is important.

To my friends listed below, I wish we could have grown old together and spent more time together. When you reminisce of our friendship and experiences, think of that and that only. Do not dwell on my recent actions the last few days. This was a necessary evil that had to be executed in order for me to obtain my NAME back. The only thing that changes policy and garners attention is death.

-----, greatest friend, Marine officer, aviator, and an even better father and husband. I Couldn't have had a better big brother than you. Your spoken wisdom was always retained by me, you old salty Mustang. You sternly told me that no matter what I accomplish I will always be a ni#%er in many individuals eyes. At the time, I did not comprehend your words. I do now. I never forgot the quote you state below. I love you bro.

I never saw a wild thing feel sorry for itself. A small bird will drop frozen dead from a bough without ever feeling sorry for itself. -D.H. Lawrence

It's kind of sad I won't be around to view and enjoy The Hangover III. What an awesome trilogy.
-----, greatest friend, Naval officer, aviator, Great Father, husband, doctor, and even better human being. I always strived to live my life parallel to your similar values and personal disciplines. ----- is lucky to have found a man like yourself, and you are fortunate to have married an irrefutable imperfect woman. Always focus on your IMMEDIATE family as they are the ones who have loved you unconditionally and always been their to support you in difficult times. I always lived my life as WW-----D (what would ----- do). -----, take care of this guy. -----, I'm sorry I missed your wedding and you had to find another best man. I'm sorry my predicament with the department stopped me from watching you and ----- get married and arguing with you about issues that were insignificant when I was really angry at the LAPD for what they did to me. I'm deeply sorry and I love you guys.

-----, great friend, attorney, father, husband, and the most cynical/blatant/politically incorrect friend a man can have. Best quality about you in college and now is that you never sugar coated the truth. I will miss our political discussions that always turned argumentative. Thanks for introducing me to outdoor sports like fishing, hunting, mudding, and also respect for the land and resources. Us city boys don't get out much like you Alaskans. You even introduced me to PBR. A beer, that when you're a poor college student is completely acceptable to get buzzed off of. I'm sorry I'll never get to go on that moose and bear hunt with you. I love you bro.

-----, greatest friend, accountant, entrepreneur, and even better Human being. You are probably the most well balanced person I've ever met and the most driven for success. In college, and after graduation, I was inspired by your personal drive. Never settle. When you make your first million, promise me you won't forget to enjoy it a bit. I know your first reaction will be to invest it somewhere else. Spend a little, just a little. I love you bro.

-----, great friend, entrepeneur, husband and father. You showed me the importance of fatherhood and friendship. Love you bro.

-----.

You guys were all important and very special to me. Don't be angry with me. I missed some of your weddings and unfortunately, some of your funerals. This was a necessary evil.

Gov. Chris Christie. What can I say? You're the only person I would like to see in the White House in 2016 other than Hillary.
Some say it is my fault that I was terminated. Yes, -----, I remember you stating this to me in an angry fit. You said that I should have kept my mouth shut about another officer's misconduct. Maybe you were right. But I'm not built like others, it's not in my DNA and my history has always shown that. When you view the video of the suspect stating he was kicked by -----, maybe you will see that I was a decent person after all. I told the truth. It still hurt that you abandoned me in my time of need. I hope you're happy, that's all I ever wanted for you.

Sgt. -----, you meant well but you should have known with your time on the job that the department would attempt to protect someone like ----- because of her time on the job, personal friendships, and ethicity. I'm not angry with you, but you should have known as an IA investigator.

Sgt ----- LPPD, Ofcr ----- LPPD (ret), and Chief ----- LPPD, your guidance and mentoring as a young police explorer was second to none and invaluable as a young man, police officer, and naval officer. Sgt -----, you forewarned me long ago about joining LAPD as they were "different" and operated differently from other modern law enforcement agencies. I now know it was your humbleness and respect for all who wear the badge and protect their communities that you didn't just express what you wanted to say, that they lack values and basic ethics as law enforcement officers. Chief -----, your [bleep] awesome. Thanks for the long talks over the years when I was an explorer, college student, Naval officer, and Police officer. Your are a great leader and carry your heart on your sleeve. Your son will be a great Air Force officer with the upringing you provided. -----, what can I say? Your just an awesome person and my first exposure to what law enforcement was really about was on our ride alongs. Your realistic approach and empathetic approach to treating all people as humans first is something I carried with me daily. Thank you, every one of you.

Dr. -----, thank you for the superb surgery you performed on my knee on 7/98 in Irvine, CA. I never had the opportunity to thank you for allowing me to live a life free of knee joint pain. Thank you.

CM1 ----- (Ret.), I learned more from you about leadership than most of my own commanders. You lived by a strict ethos of get it done, and get it done right. I wanted to attend your retirement, I really did. But because of my predicament I was unable to. Hope you and Ritchie are still together. I've always held you in high regard.

Wayne LaPierre, President of the NRA, you're a vile and inhumane piece of [bleep].
Sgt Maj. ----- USMC, Thank you for the intense instruction and mentorship and time spent forging me into a never quit officer. You were challenging as a DI. You made sure the vicious and intense personality I possess was discovered. On a lighter note....Don't feel humbled you never broke me. I made it a personal goal to never give up years before. The Corp is lucky to have you at the front. Your leadership is essential and needed for all marines, especially staff NCO's and mentorship and advisement to company grade officers. You are the epitome of a US marine and never forget that.

I thank my friends for the awesome shared experiences. I thank the unnamed women I dated over my lifetime for the great and sometimes not so great sex.

It's kind of sad I won't be around to view and enjoy The Hangover III. What an awesome trilogy. Todd Phillips, don't make anymore Hangovers after the third, takes away the originality of its foundation. World War Z looks good and The Walking Dead season 3 (second half) looked intriguing. Damn, gonna miss shark week.

Mr. Vice President, do your due diligence when formulating a concise and permanent national AWB plan. Future generations of Americans depend on your plan and advisement to the president. I've always been a fan of yours and consider you one of the few genuine and charismatic politicians. Damn, sounds like an oxymoron calling you an honest politician. It's the truth.

Hillary Clinton. You'll make one hell of a president in 2016. Much like your husband, Bill, you will be one of the greatest. Look at Castro in San Antonio as a running mate or possible secretary of state. He's (good people) and I have faith and confidence in him. Look after Bill. He was always my favorite President. Chelsea grew up to be one hell of an attractive woman. No disrespect to her husband.

Gov. Chris Christie. What can I say? You're the only person I would like to see in the White House in 2016 other than Hillary. You're America's no [bleep] taking uncle. Do one thing for your wife, kids, and supporters. Start walking at night and eat a little less, not a lot less, just a little. We want to see you around for a long time. Your leadership is greatly needed.

Wayne LaPierre, President of the NRA, you're a vile and inhumane piece of [bleep]. You never even showed 30 seconds of empathy for the children, teachers, and families of Sandy Hook. You deflected any type of blame/responsibility and directed it toward the influence of movies and the media. You are a failure of a human being. May all of your immediate and distant family die horrific deaths in front of you.

Willie Geist, you're a talented and charismatic journalist.
Chris Matthews, Joe Scarborough, Pat Harvey, Brian Williams, Soledad Obrien, Wolf Blitzer, Meredith Viera, Tavis Smiley, and Anderson Cooper, keep up the great work and follow Cronkite's lead. I hold many of you in the same regard as Tom Brokaw and the late Peter Jennings. Cooper, stop nagging and berating your guest, they're your (guest). Mr. Scarborough, we met at McGuire's pub in P-cola in 2002 when I was stationed there. It was an honor conversing with you about politics, family, and life.

Willie Geist, you're a talented and charismatic journalist. Stop with all the talk show shenanigans and get back to your core of reporting. Your future is brighter than most.

Revoke the citizenship of Fareed Zakaria and deport him. I've never heard a positive word about America or its interest from his mouth, ever. On the same day, give Piers Morgan an indefinite resident alien and Visa card. Mr. Morgan, the problem that many American gun owners have with you and your continuous discussion of gun control is that you are not an American citizen and have an accent that is distinct and clarifies that you are a foreigner. I want you to know that I agree with you 100% on enacting stricter firearm laws but you must understand that your critics will always have in the back of their mind that you are native to a country that we won our sovereignty from while using firearms as a last resort in defense and you come from a country that has no legal private ownership of firearms. That is disheartening to American gun owners and rightfully so.

The honorable President George H.W. Bush, they never give you enough credit for your successful Presidency. You were always one of my favorite Presidents (2nd favorite). I hope your health improves greatly. You are the epitome of an American and service to country.

General Petraeus, you made a mistake that the majority of men make once, twice, or unfortunately many times in a lifetime. You are human. You thought with your penis. It's okay.I personally believe you should have never resigned and told your critics to shove it. You only answer to two people regarding the affair, your wife and children, period. I hope you return to government service to your country as it is visibly in your DNA.

General Colin Powell, your book "My American Journey" solidified my decision to join the military after college. I had always intended to serve, but your book and journey motivated me. You are an inspiration to all Americans and influenced me greatly.

To all SEA's (senior enlisted advisers), you are just as important if not a greater viability to large and small commands. It's time you take a more active role in leading your enlisted and advising officers. These are not your twilight years or time to relax. You can either strengthen the tip of the spear, or make it brittle. You decide.

Pat Harvey, I've always thought you carried yourself professionally and personally the way a strong black woman should. Your articulation and speech is second to none. You are the epitome of a journalist/anchor. You are America.

Tebow, I really wanted to see you take charge of an offense again and the game.
Ellen Degeneres, continue your excellent contribution to entertaining America and bringing the human factor to entertainment. You changed the perception of your gay community and how we as Americans view the LGBT community. I congratulate you on your success and opening my eyes as a young adult, and my generation to the fact that you are know different from us other than who you choose to love. Oh, and you Prop 8 supporters, why the [bleep] do you care who your neighbor marries. Hypocritical pieces of [bleep].

Westboro Baptist Church, may you all burn slowly in a fire, not from smoke inhalation, but from the flames and only the flames.

Tebow, I really wanted to see you take charge of an offense again and the game. You are not a good QB by todays standards, but you are a great football player who knows how to lead a team and WIN. You will be "Tebowing" when you reach your next team. I have faith in you. Get out of that circus they call the Jets and away from the reality TV star, Rex Ryan, and Mark Rapist Sanchez.

Christopher Walz, you impressed me in Inglorious Basterds. After viewing Django Unchained, I was sold. I have come to the conclusion that you are well on your way to becoming one of the greats if not already and show glimpses of Daniel Day Lewis and Morgan Freeman-esque type qualities of greatness. Trust me when I say that you will be one of the greatest ever.

Jennifer Beals, Serena Williams, Grae Drake, Lisa Nicole-Carson, Diana Taurasi, N'bushe Wright, Brenda Villa, Kate Winslet, Ashley Graham, Erika Christensen, Gabrielle Union, Isabella Soprano, Zain Verjee, Tamron Hall, Gina Carano, America Ferrara, Giana Michaels, Nene, Natalie Portman, Queen Latifah, Michelle Rodriguez, Anjelah Johnson, Kelly Clarkson, Nora Jones, Laura Prepon, Margaret Cho, and Rutina Wesley, you are THE MOST beautiful women on this planet, period. Never settle, professionally or personally.

Dave Brubeck's "Take Five" is the greatest piece of music ever, period. Hanz Zimmer, William Bell, Eric Clapton, BB King, Bob Marley, Sam Cooke, Metallica, Rob Zombie, Nora Jones, Marvin Gaye, Jay-Z, and the King (Louis Armstrong) are musical prodigies.

Jeffrey Toobin and David Gergen, you are political geniuses and modern scholars. Hopefully Toobin is nominated for the Supreme Court and implements some damn common sense and reasoning instead of partisan bickering. But in true Toobin fashion, we all know he would not accept the nomination.

Jeffrey Toobin and David Gergen, you are political geniuses and modern scholars.
John and Ken from KFI, never mute your facts and personal opinions. You are one of the few media personalities who speak the truth, even when the truth is not popular. I will miss listening to your discussions.

Bill Handel, your effin awesome. For years I enjoyed your show.

Anthony Bourdain, you're a modern renaissance man who epitomizes the saying "too cool for school".

Larry David, Kevin Hart, the late Patrice Oneal, Lisa Lampanelli, Chris Rock, Jerry Seinfeld, Louis CK, Dave Chapelle, Jon Stewart, Wanda Sykes, Dennis Miller, and Jeff Ross are pure geniuses. I'm a big fan of all of your work. As a child my mom caught me watching Def Jam comedy at midnight when I should have been asleep. Instead of scolding me, the next night she let me stay up late and watch George Carlin, Eddie Murphy and Richard Pryor comedy specials with her for hours. My sides were sore for days.

Larry David, I agree. 72-82 degrees is way to hot in a residence. 68 degrees is perfect.

Cyclist, I have no problem sharing the road with you. But, at least go the [bleep] speed limit posted or get off the road!!! That is a feasible request. Livestrong you fraudulent [bleep].

Cardinal Mahoney, you are in essence a predator yourself as you enabled your subordinates to molest multiple children in the church over many decades. May you die a long and slow painful death.

If you continuously followed me while I was walking at dusk/night I would confront you as well. Too bad Trayvon didn't smash your skull completely open, Zim. While Trayvon's body erodes to bones 6 feet under, Zimmerman has put on no less than 40 pounds while out on bail. Zimmerman was arrested for battery on a Peace officer and avoided jail/prison because he completed a diversion program. Thats a history of being an [bleep]. Zimmerman couldn't get hired by a LE agency because of poor credit/and a history of violence/restraining orders with women. So what does he do? Designate himself, neighborhood watch captain and make complaints to his city council about the horrible work ethic and laziness of the officers patrolling his neighborhood. Good one Zim. How classy that your father attempts to use his veterans status "disabled veteran" during your bail hearing but doesn't state what his disability percentage is. Prior service personnel know it can be 5% disability to 100%. You and your attorneys always avoid mentioning your fathers occupation as a magistrate/judge because I'm sure he's utilized his position to get you out of way more jams then the public has discovered and that your family is not indigent. Oh, tell your wife to stop perjuring herself in court.

KCCO

Anonymous, you are hated, vilified, and considered an enemy to the state. I personally view you as a culture and a necessity that brings truth to a cloaked world. Forge ahead!

Charlie Sheen, you're effin awesome.

My opinion on women in combat MOS', Designators, Rates, and AFSC's. I wish all of you who attempt to pursue combat occupational roles the greatest success in completing, graduating, and qualifying in their respective schools/courses. Many want to see you fail. Remember, everyone of you is a pioneer. There was a time when they didn't allow blacks to fight the good fight. This is your civil rights. Don't quit!!!

Charlie Sheen, you're effin awesome.
It's time to allow gay service member's spouses to utilize the same benefits that all heterosexual dependents are eligible for. Medical, Dental, Tricare, Deers, SGLI, BX, Commissary, Milstar, MWR, etc. Flag officers, lets be honest. You can't really give a valid argument to as why gays shouldn't be eligible as every month a new state enacts laws that allow same sex marriage.

LGBT community and supporters, the same way you have the right to voice your opinion on acceptance of gay marriage, Chick Fil-A has a right to voice their beliefs as well. That's what makes America so great. Freedom of expression. Don't be [bleep] and boycott/degrade their business and customers who patronize the locations. They make some damn good chicken! Vandalizing (graffiti) their locations does not help any cause.

Mr. Bill Cosby, you are a reasonable and talented man who has spoken the truth of the cultural anomalies within the black communities that need to change now. The black communities' resentment toward you is because they don't like hearing the truth or having their clear and evident dirty laundry aired to the nation. The problem is, the country is not blind nor dumb. They believe we are animals. Do not mute your unvarnished truthful speech or moral compass. Blacks must strive for more in life than bling, hoes, and cars. The current culture is an

That sick man has some serious ADHD going on.

"The ultimate victim."

This bastard ain't a David Koresh.This one is likely to be a long time problem for the cops.

That looks like a typical post here on the freak show forum.

Funny you identified Koresh. How about Kaczynski?
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Forensic Psychiatrist: 'Dorner Is Like Kaczynski'

Feb 08, 2013 12:45 AM EST
Gerri Shaftel Constant, Fox 11 Medical Producer -

"This is completely out of character for the man you knew who always wore a smile." Christopher Dorner indicated in his manifesto that on the inside he was very different from the smiling face we've seen in so many photos. Dr. Park Dietz has witnessed dichotomies like this for decades. He's a Forensic Psychiatrist who has evaluated countless high-profile killers.

Among them: The Unibomber, Jeffery Dahmer, the D.C. Snipers and Jared Loughner, the man convicted of killing six, and wounding 12 while trying to assassinate Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords in a 2011 Tucson rampage.

Dr. Dietz has been studying the criminal mind since the 1970's. He says this appears to be "a classic case of workplace violence", but that Dorner's level of intelligence and his weapons training make him an extremely formidable adversary for law enforcement. Dietz says the manifesto indicates both feelings of persecution along with a sense of grandiosity, and that often these feelings go hand in hand. It is likely, says Dietz, that Dorner's feelings of grandiosity lead him to believe he can outsmart the law enforcement agencies now on a massive manhunt in an effort to apprehend him.

Why might he have taken action? Dietz believes Dorner felt his "good name was besmirched" when he was fired by the LAPD. In people with a high level of narcissism, perceived insults can cause deep wounds that may never fully heal. Dr. Dietz says among the murderers he's evaluated there's a striking level of "grudge holding" and "injustice collecting". Dorner's manifesto indicates he's not only collecting the injustices he suffered personally, but also historical injustices including the Rodney King beating. By taking on historical injustices as his own, Dorner can justify whatever action he deems necessary to avenge them.

Killing a loved one of a target is extremely rare, says Dr. Dietz, who adds that when it happens, "it indicates a desire to cause extreme pain". If, as alleged, Dorner killed Monica Quan, the daughter of former LAPD Captain Randal Quan, it's likely because Dorner felt the pain he suffered when he lost his job was no less significant than the pain of losing a child.

Dr. Dietz would welcome the opportunity to talk to Dorner and evaluate him. He believes that Dorner might respond and cooperate with an investigation if he were addressed with the level of respect he feels he deserves.

You can find out more information about the work Dr. Dietz does to protect schools, companies and celebrities from threats of violence by visiting www.taginc.com.

Maybe so. Poor fella just can't understand why he's not in charge. I suppose that maybe he thinks he is...now.

Dang...I shoulda been a shrink.

I'm surprised to learn he's black...I've been working horrendously long hours, & haven't been able to catch up on all this.

good grief, everything from some slight in high school, to Charlie Sheen, to the AWB ban, to Zimmerman.

Long time problem for anyone who crosses his path. 2 of the 3 dead were civilians,not cops. He is just a homicidal psychopath who has found his mantel. Curdog, you asked why the cops on the search would be fatigued. It is a given. When there is someone who WILL kill you,not MIGHT kill you, low temperatures and wind,long hours,spotty food and little sleep, it is inescapable.This is NOT a run of the mill search for a dangerous felon, it is very much into the combat operation. By far the most criminals really are no out to specifically kill anyone outside of their original targets. This guy is definitely out to kill. He was quite specific and has amply demonstrated that he will. I HAVE done a fair amount of real fighting in my life and I say this guy is not going to leave anyone a choice. With him,barring 1000% pure luck,it is a case of kill or be killed. He is also very much a LEFT WING CRAZY. The perfect storm. They are the plus perfect practitioners of self-justification and he will have a coterie of supporters from his ilk. Watch and see.

I haven't been following everything in this case, so this was news to me.. The cops thought this truck had Dorner in it so they just opened fire?????? Whoooeeeee.. the lawsuits' awards from THAT idiocy will reach about ten figures..

Man, if I owned a truck that was similar to this a-hole, I'd leave that thing in the garage so a bunch of trigger-happy cops wouldn't be targeting me just because my truck LOOKED like his!!

Just unreal...

Bad things happen in the middle of a mass murder rampage among 4 million people. Unreal? I'd agree.

Nailed it.

This kind of thinking and attitude is epidemic in our society, and has been on the increase ever since the term "me generation" came into vogue. Rights without responsibilities, and above everybody else. Most of these types are simply self-absorbed azzholes, a PITA to be around. They clog up systems with their grievances and lawsuits. However, in rare but extreme cases like this they commit violence. They are the extreme tip of a large iceberg. When the individual is a minority, perceptions of racism come into play, but it is the same dynamic regardless of what group they belong to.

Paul

Can you imagine the conflict our Stormfront types are feeling?

This has the potentialto be far worse. This guy will not fight on THEIR terms,he will fight on HIS terms. One man can sure create total chaos when he has the will and the ability to act on it.

Koresh was willing to "Die for the cause".[ the "cause" being himself]

Dorner is willing to "Kill for the cause".[the "cause" being himself]

Koresh could only die once, but this bastard can go on killing until his luck runs out.

By shooting up innocent persons, the LAPD has made themselves out to be cowardly, self serving people.Dorner is at least smart enough not to interfere with their hole digging.

He obviously couldn't have planned on them goin' crazier than he is, but he'll take it as a gift.

He may not kill another cop until he sees himself dropping off the front page.

By shooting up innocent persons, the LAPD has made themselves out to be cowardly, self serving people.Dorner is at least smart enough not to interfere with their hole digging.

He obviously couldn't have planned on them goin' crazier than he is, but he'll take it as a gift.
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What broad brushed baloney.

You're giving him a lot of credit. Most narcissists are a lot better at talking than they are at doing. We shall see.

I think you have the situation pegged perfectly.

You do know, of course, that your post will be read by some as "supporting this nutcase".

Not if they know ET's background. And most on here do.

He needs to be taken seriously and pursued with due caution, but he doesn't sound like a Rambo, except in his own mind.

The media, of course, will make him out to be larger than life, with references to military training and his Marksman medal. Hell, a company clerk or Navy yeoman has "military training" and Marksman is pretty basic.

Paul

This is proof unconventional warfare and terrorist tactics work, at least short term.

It has people seeing ghosts and shooting at shadows. As ET says, this is a combat scenario, not a law enforcement one. It will take a military combat mindset to fight this guy with lots of FOCUS.

before its over, the cops will have shot more people than Donner.

I agree.

I think they'll he'll be taken alive; or at least the officers will have the opportunity. He seems to want/need attention too much.

Killing folks unexpectedly from ambush is easy. We'll see how he well he does without the element of surprise.

I agree. He killed his own attorney's kids and ambushed two random cops at a red light, tryed to steal a boat, then torched his vehicle when just leaving it would behoove his flight. The fact that he is so insane makes him that much more dangerous.

AR is very common in California. At the local range, 9 out of 10 rifles are AR15's. Certain features are illegal but they are so popular that they should be named the official California State Rifle.

The California legal one that I built...

The guy is off his rocker, but he has a lot of training that most criminals (especially crazy shooters) don't. He has a lot of knowledge about law enforcement that most criminals (especially crazy shooters) don't. Maybe the biggest problem is "IF" he is willing to die, but is not looking to kill himself, only willing to die in a fire fight at the hands of others, and is careful not to allow himself to get caught with no escape in such a fight...that is to say he does everything to his tactical advantage....this could last a long time and he could kill a lot of people.

Think back to the Miami/Dade shootout...he could be one of those type guys. I think every officer will consider him as such, and tactics are better now, but it still could get really ugly....

Yeah, this guy has the same crack training that the cops who shot the civies have.

LOL...yeah well if you look at it that way...

Not everybody on this board is in need of correction, neighbor.

E T and I have exchanged a couple PMs years ago if I'm not mistaken.

There was a reason I used "some" instead of "most".

Now...... go back to minding your own business.

He looks to have been a Lieutenant in the Navy. That means officer's training, at least a Bachelor's degree and two promotions. If the words are his own, he is well-spoken and literate, even if off-kilter.

You shouldn't have traded it on the guitar... About the only thing I can see missing is a higher capacity clip and a bayonet lug.

I'll bet the LAPD guys are having to wash their own cruisers.

I doubt it. Platt and Maddox weren't into writing manifestos and trying to get attention and publicity. Like Pat Powell alluded to earlier, they were well armed "doers", this guy is mostly a talker who kills from ambush.

Doesn't need a bachelor's degree to be an LT.

NAILED TRH with that one!

There it is.

I feel like I'm watching a remake of 'The Negotiator'.

Only if he goes the LDO route.

Its going to be hard for a 250 # , well spoken black man to keep a low profile anywhere in America.

Looking at the list of cities/towns he lived in, his family moved around a lot, to some interesting places.

Doesn't seem like a military family, maybe small business types?

Sycamore

So now we get the Blue water guy squaring off against the Kneedeeper.

I think I'll go fishing since I'm already at the lake.

still looking for him around Big Bear in the mountains, according to Fox, no reports of stolen or car-jacked vehicles.

Sycamore

21 degrees and snowing,wind speed 7 mph and gusts to 20 mph. Temps will go to 14 tonight.

Sycamore

Bones by spring...

Seen it before!

ET, you might have missed it, but the 2 civilians he killed were the daughter of the guy on the PD force that "wronged" him and her boyfriend. They were chosen by this guy, not random. He's definitely working off a plan of some sort...


Was this your "Lock of the Week".?

Forgot to insert sarcasm icon for the feeble minded.

No we aint heard the last from this guy.

Amazing that this cowardly woman killing POS who could not make itbas a cop has become a cult hero and captured the imaginations of libtards like Sycamore.

I guess affirmative action not enough to cover up his lies and he was fired

Thinkin that round brown man will be smoke by Sunday dinner.

Gunner

Let's not forget he was also a democrap and obama-worshipper, hated the NRA and was VERY anti-gun...

That fookin figures.

Gunner

12 hours or less, imo.

Was this your "Lock of the Week".?
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Maybe he is already dead.

He will be smoking a turd in hell soon.


"He stated as good Christians we are to turn the other cheek as Jesus did. Problem is, I�m not a [bleep] Christian and that old book, made of fiction and limited non-fiction, called the bible, never once stated Jesus was called a [bleep]."

Glad to see you made it to today.

Now Godspeed through the weekend...

The guy really is certifiable.

Queen Latifah... one of the most beautiful women in the world?

It wasn't needed.

Yes it is

How long have you been waiting to use that line?

Hope you catch some fish. I bet a lot of people back east wish they were in Texas today.

This guy is dangerous because he is heavily armed and doesn't give a schit.

How effective he is or can be is really unkown.

He ambushed 2 cops, shot at a few more and murdered a defenseless couple.

Doesn't take a Green Beret to pull that off, just someone off their nut that is willing to kill people.

He cluster [bleep] his boat theft attempt and has possibly run up into the mountains with no way of escape.

He's the one being hunted now, we'll see how he does when they catch up to him.

Since everyone is predicting an outcome, I might as well too - If he did run into those mountains and didn't pull a fast one on the cops, my guess is he offs himself.

May have already done so.

If he somehow has pulled a fast one and isn't in the woods, they may have a lot of trouble when they do catch up to him.

Maybe he envisions himself as another Eric Rudolph and he will try to hole up in the mountains. But I wonder if he has the skills to pull that off.

Naval officer who's anti-gun/anti-NRA?

Doubt he has any serious survival skills at all. Considering how he tried to brag about 1 MOA groups to Anderson Cooper, I have doubts about how serious his marksmanship skills are also.

The fascination and cult worship of the progressive liberals continues...

Yep hole up in the Sierra Nevada mountains in the wintertime just like the Donner Party. Sounds like he has a decent shot especially since he admires Obama and Anderson Coooper

Grubbing on winter plants won't satiate that body mass for long.

On the lighter side.......

The " I'm not Dorner! " bumper stickers are selling like hotcakes........

Blacks suffer more effects from the cold than Whites, because it is in their Genetics , he won't last long in those Mountains in the Middle of the Winter, that is if he is up there.

coin with three holes in it..... Figured after the first shot it would have been adios el coino....... Probably a .219 drill in a drill press......

Just to let you guys know, Dorner's truck was found near the Bear Mountain Ski Resort. The ski area's base area is within the city limits of Big Bear Lake. The full time population of Big Bear Lake and surrounding communities is about 15,000 and there are plenty of vacation homes in the area. The cops were only going to search about 400 homes in a mountain valley that has thousands of homes. Why would Dorner be out in the cold when he could be indoors and out of the weather just a few minutes outside the search area? I know the area because I used to live up there and still have a season pass to Bear Mountain and Snow Summit, the 2 ski resorts up there.

What was funny was hearing Anderson Cooper's remarks regarding the writing on the wrapper the coin was sent in.

It It read "1MOA"

That idiot said it stood for:
"Imagine A More Open America..."

Just like a libtard to try and attribute some John Lennonesque saying to a murdering nut job.

Someone finally corrected his dumbass. LOL

Actually, the Big Bear area is in the San Gabriel mountain range. I can see it from my front door. (Please don't call me Sarah Palin.) Blacktail deer in there, some black bear & coyotes. Lots of cottontail and jack rabbits. Plenty of spring water to drink, too. There are caves throughout the range as well as lots of downed timber. If he has a backpack with the proper supplies, he might go for months.

I would be willing to bet (not really) that he had a couple of his friends take it up there and burn it as a diversion while he heads for parts unknown. Gonna be plenty hard to find.

dats cause FUBU and Sean John don't be makin no snow suits.

Maybe a Mountain Lion will kill him or he tries to rob a beehive and gets stung to death.

Crossed my mind, too. Get everybody focusing on a red herring while he's putting the next stage of his plan into action.

Mule deer in that area not blacktail, not that is matters, San Bernardino Mtn's, not San Gabriel's

yeah and adidas with the laces out aren't much good in the snow.

It's definately a very intriguing case. This guy is a cult hero to liberals, a villain to society, a military officer, an ex-LEO, an intellectual and an idiot.

Im just waiting to see if the riots are going to start up again.....

Anyone have a BOLO for Lagoofus?

He's a kook.

But perhaps a harbinger of the future as well?

California legislature is currently debating whether or not to ban the possession of grandfathered 10+ magazines, annual training classes to OWN a handgun, etc...

I can see some terminally ill individual or two thinking they've got nothing to lose, and everything to gain by pursuing certain political figures.

But without all that manifesto s--t announcing their intentions. Maybe just a letter, saying "A yes vote = your whole family dead" sent to key CA legislators.

I'm absolutely not supporting the idea, just sayin' there's a good possibility of it happening.

KL

light enough to make me lol! tks

this thing is just bizarre


the big poor bastid, he's going to miss Hangover III????


fact is stranger than fiction, I trust my friend ET and his experience, but I'm certainly hoping you're wrong on how this plays out Jim.


am thinking as the manifesto drug on, the drugs to treat his ADHD wore off!

I'm just grateful he didn't include Rene Zellweger on his hottie list. Bart would never let us forget it!

Meet the "new guy"..!

Classic misdirection.

He mentions it just too many times in the manifesto.

If I am copper in charge of the manhunt I put my best people wherever the world premier of that movie is and a tail on Queen Latifah's limo.

I wasn't going to correct him but thanks for the clarification

ML

Sorry Deerwhacker, I'm not Laguna/Raisuli.

I'm a LOOOONG time member using a second ID for anonymity. In fact, I've got the right to call you an FNG, about 4 times over.

I'm using this anonymous ID, as my regular handle traces straight back to me. Not a good thing to be this political, when looking for a new job.

Send KuiLei a PM with a message, and I'll reply right back to you with my std ID.

As I said, I don't condone Dorner's actions, but certainly can see copycats occurring in the not very distant future, especially with the march towards confiscation.

KL

If he's there, they're on him. No trick for a hound.

I think there is a underground railroad used by drug traffickers in those mountains.

He's probably smoking a cigar, taking a train thru a tunnel that leads to Mexico.

My best Gus impression. LOL

Good one, John.

And, with any luck, Gus went with him.

For the "cops are evil" crowd, here's a link to an aricle in the LA Times that goes into a little detail on how Dorner handled himself while in the academy and after.

Dorner was a [bleep] Up....

Now, had the LAPD NOT done anything about this guy, and he was out doing the same crap now that he was then, and still on the department, the "cops=evil crowd" would be wetting their panties and howling about how LAPD covered up for this guy.

Anyone who has been in the military, or through an academy knows this guy. There's at least one of him in nearly every group. He's the [bleep] up. The guy you can't depend on in a pinch. The guy who thinks the rules don't apply to him. The idiot that couldn't find his way out of a paper bag. Well, that's Dorner.

The guy was a [bleep] up. And he was having a hard time getting through the probationary period because he was a [bleep] up. He saw the writing on the wall.... he was going to get canned and would not be allowed to make it through probation. He requested more training. When that didn't work, he made bullchit claims against his FTO in and effort to discredit her.

Like so many of these losers (we have a couple here), his shortcomings were not HIS fault, but rather EVERYONE ELSES who would not stand for them.

I'm sure he's pissed. The dumb azz could't cut it. And I'll bet he received a good damn bit of ribbing about shooting himself in the hand, and that followed him throughout the academy and into the field.

In the end, the process worked. A little late, but it worked. A bad cop was taken off the streets before he became a liability and danger to the department, his fellow officers, himself, and the public.

The piece of crap is a paranoid schizophrenic, and he got weeded out.

For those that want to point to "LAPD Corruption" and paint this guy as some kind of a victim of the LAPD which "pushed him over the edge" as he tried to "expose wrongdoing", ask yourselves...what is the more LIKELY scenario here...with a guy who acted and performed as he did LONG BEFORE he had disciplinary issues or had initiated complaints on fellow officers.

Again, he got weeded out by superiors trying to do the right thing, and to PREVENT a cop from doing what this EX COP is now doing.

Very unfortunate this nut job could not have accepted responsability for his own actions and failings, and just moved on with life in any other profession that he may have been suited for.

They're tracking him with coonhounds?

How many serial killers have gone undetected for years... this guy is gone, possibly not to be heard from agian until his anger/vendeta flares.

He's playing a hit and miss game that will make the PD look like fools which is his intent.

Bad part of all of this is there will be copy cats.

Phil

O. h. columbianus. Some range into the San Gabriel mountains. They are smaller than mule deer and are known as "Black-Tailed deer".

How to Hunt for Deer in the Angeles National Forest



Blacktails in the San Gabriels

So what does that say about the LAPD morons who shot up two innocent vehicles and seriously injured civilians??? Who will take the badges and guns from THOSE idiots???

If they are not sitting in a jail cell right now it is bullschit. Most likely they will be put on administrative leave while there is an "investigation" that will conclude that they were justified because they were under duress or some other bullschit.


What an embarrassment!

Would that work for me if I, with reckless disregard for human life, shot innocents?

The latest on MSNBC ...

Mike Taiibi from NBC News in LA said "He may have weapons as big as a .50 caliber weapon, we're told, that fires five inch rounds, and are armor piercing, and can pierce a vehicle as well."



I had pause the DVR and write it down. You can't make stuff up that's this good even if you try.

No

I bet that bittch kicks like a mule.

Most reporters are so freaking stupid.

You mean-"The latest on MSLSD" ...

So will Feinstein release a bill to ban fired LAPD officers?

Police now searching his mothers home for some kind of evidence as to where he might be!

Phil

"...as well as a shoulder-fired missile launcher."


http://abcnews.go.com/US/christopher-dorner-vanished-powerful-weaponry/story?id=18437045

Well ... a .50 cal is five inches long.


I heard that crap and just shook my head. I wonder how long it will take before other some idiot reporter, or a tinfoiler, will latch onto it and start spreading the news that he has a .50 cal?

just on MSNBC ...he's has a tank!!!.... and the numbers for the missle silos in the dakota's.....oh!!!! chit!!!!

Fixed it.

Flash - call MSNBC - think he just flew a .50 cal machine gun equipped DRONE over here.

Big Bear is in the San Bernardino's, which lay east of Cajon Pass. The map you post is the San Gabriel's which is west of there.



I haven't a clue who wrote that "blacktail deer" are there (much less whitetail, sika, sambar, Fallow and axis deer) but they are not only incorrect, they are not even close.

I'm not a Rush fan at all, but the guy does have a great sense of humor:)

I doubt it was meant to be humerus; more of kick in the nuts.

Ain't no way I'd follow hounds after this guy.

I haven't noticed cops being any braver than the rest of the citizenry.

Too late: ex-LAPD Officer Dorner just transformed into NationalSocialistBro:



God help Los Angeles.....

I'm new here and thought I'd introduce myself. Did I choose a good thread in which to do so?

Absolutely. Are you a gun totin, government hating, God fearing American?

Maybe ... First we need some answers to a few questions.

#1. What type and how many wraps of tinfoil do you prefer?

And how many 270's do you not have?

Are you a born-again pit bull hater?

Got any good tittypitchers you can post?

Welcome!

Welcome to the 'Fire!! Do you prefer the .270 Winchester or 30.06 Springfield cartridge??

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pe...edium=shorturl&utm_campaign=shorturl

Whoa, too many prerequisites at one time. I didn't know there would be an approval process. Let's see:

Watch4bear - yes

Tin-foil - change brands frequently, keep 'em guessing

curdog - 1)I don't do well with trick questions, 2)never gave it much thought, 3)will mine do?

.270 v. 30.06 - Dad raised me on a .270, but I don't hate on the other

thumbs up.

Wrong answer, you just do it like this:

Dat girl be sexy.

Not that it matters at all to this thread (maybe a good temp diversion from the cops chasing? a cop killer) but what is this BURRO deer. I've see actual burros in some of that country, but has G&F discovered four-hooved miscegenation?

coues?

Dat's good, but so is this...

i caught a cat fish in big bear lake in 07'......and seen folks fighting over a carp....se asia came to mind...

Laffin

The women in the blue truck have lawyer'd up.!

How much $$$ you think they'll settle for.?


[color:#3333FF]Link...![/color][/b]

An attorney representing two women who were delivering newspapers when they were shot by police during a massive manhunt for an ex-LAPD officer called the incident "unacceptable," saying his clients looked nothing like the suspect.

[b]Emma Hernandez, 71, was delivering the Los Angeles Times with her daughter, Margie Carranza, 47, in the 19500 block of Redbeam Avenue in Torrance on Thursday morning when Los Angeles police detectives apparently mistook their pickup for that of Christopher Dorner, the 33-year-old fugitive suspected of killing three people and injuring two others.

Hernandez, who attorney Glen T. Jonas said was shot twice in the back, was in stable condition late Thursday. Carranza received stitches on her finger.

"The problem with the situation is it looked like the police had the goal of administering street justice and in so doing, didn't take the time to notice that these two older, small Latina women don't look like a large black man," Jonas said.

I can see how two hispanic females might resemble 1 large male negro.

REALLY!?!?! Even I squinted REAL hard in low light while drunker than Cooter Brown would two little Latino women look like a large black man! Plus, I've never seen a Toyota Tundra that looked like a Nissan Titan!

Ed

Just a name tagged on to them. "Copy and Pasted"

Though the deer of D12 are commonly called burro deer, they�re really just desert mule deer. The �burro� name probably comes from the fact they are generally smaller in body size than Rocky Mountain or even California�s coastal mule deer.
Their diminutive size is a result of their desert home. But they are not as tiny, by any means, as the Coues deer found in Arizona, New Mexico and Mexico. That tiny whitetail deer is much smaller.
In some cases, hunters in the D12 and D17 zones to the north have taken some really larger deer � but the �burro deer� name continues.

Phil

Especially with a combined age of 118 years!

LOL

I'm guessing they had to weed through the talent to select a lawyers.

rodney king got a crapload of money out of them.......................
these 2 should have a huge payday given their circumstance of being innocent bystanders being basically attacked by tackleberry cops

well i don't normally think much of suing someone for an honest mistake and i don't think someone else should lose everything and me get rich on a technicality.

however in this case if agents of the government did something this stupid and reckless and hurt me or mine, i'd sue for every dime of tax money i'd ever paid and then some!

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Lawsuit of this nature filed in less than 24 hours? I'm thinking a 2nd tier player who is well known in the Hispanic community, not the big boys.

Pleadings such as these are elaborate and you just can't punt these type pleadings and survive preliminary motions.

Anyways, whoever it is, his third is going to be easy and sweet.

They can already start spending IMO

Are you a Ron paul supporter????

If they don't catch him soon,..ain't nobody is southern California gonna be gettin' no newspaper.

Them hinky ass cops done shot two old Chenese women who deliver 'em.

The rest of 'em are gonna say,.."Fluggit!,..they can watch TV!".

If they don't plan to move out of Cali then they'd better get a Suburban with kevlar in the side panels and bulletproof glass all around, the LAPD will hold a grudge.....

I've hunted here my entire life and never have seen blacktail/ whitetail sika sambar fallow or axis or small mule deer about the size of my GSP


ML

TV? That's the problem. There is a reason we don't let detectives out of the station.

I don't care what deer are there, but I guess it passes the time.

That's a risky one to answer...

Whatchutalking about? I see detective shows on the TV alla time

Exactly. Real detectives don't get out much.

...and when they do, they make sure it's safe......

I think they got the nickname Burro 'cause of the big ears.

I hunted "Inyo" deer a few times. Never managed one, saw some massive tracks, though. A fellow hunter showed me a shed he'd found. Most of the antler was gone, gnawed away by rodents, but the base remained - and the base was as big as my wrist. They are hard to come by, but there are some good deer in CA.

Man...what's the Over/Under on this big boy?

Let's see who can guess best where he is...I'm thinking he's on foot and still in the area near his burnt truck. That Bear Mtn area still.

im thinking the opposite, since you took that position and i've been watching the football picks. lol