Thanks for the reply mad dog. love the 35 very accurate and dialed in now with 200 grain hornady lever evolution. I can see a possibility of her putting down a elk with it, hits hard and recoil she can handle. The gun is a keeper. In addition on Saturday i won an auction for a 425 in 30 rem. its supposed to be parts gun, but is complete gun??? I wonder. So if any one is looking for parts i only need a couple for my 25 rem. just let me know if your looking. The ser# on the 30 is 4140 if any one is still keeping track, seems to me that none below 1000 and none above 5000 and change would suggest they are rare finds. In my opinion very fine and accurate rifles