So, quick update, but we've done several totally unforced creek crossings. Kept it small so far, but they'll do it, even if they don't want to do so.
Still haven't done much in the mountains with them, mostly just staying local in the desert and around the house, especially with hunting season in force right now and I didn't take them for an overnight trip at all this summer like planned. Only time for so much
"For some unfortunates, poisoned by city sidewalks ... the horn of the hunter never winds at all" Robert Ruark, The Horn of the Hunter