I'm still pissed off from 1976 when I had a .257 R being built on a Santa Barbara right hand action in a quilted maple left hand stock with a long Shilen barrel. My buddy the smith calls and says "how would you like a 25-06 instead. The reamer chattered and so I took a 25-06 reamer and went in and cleaned it up". It's taken three elk, 6 or 7 antelope, and countless mule deer. Still shoots .3" groups with cheap Speer bullets. But I wanted a Roberts.