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Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames Ringman #3426117 10/27/09
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,948 Likes: 27 AK peninsula 458Win Campfire Tracker
458Win Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,948 Likes: 27 AK peninsula	I don't know who that guide was as I prefered the 500 gr Hornady bullets for many years, then after Finn Aagaard gave me a box of Jack Carter's new TB bullets I used them. I eventually tried and liked the 400 X as well as the 400 Swifts and Kodiaks. I have stated that I have never had a bear stay on it's feet when I hit it well with my 458 - but even big bullets still have to be well placed. Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master Guide, Alaska Hunter Ed Instructor FAA Master pilot www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com Anyone who claims the 30-06 is not effective has either not used one, or else is unwittingly commenting on their marksmanship.

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Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	Eremicus	10/04/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	ingwe	10/04/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	SharpsShooter	10/04/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	JJHACK	10/04/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	ingwe	10/04/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	SharpsShooter	10/04/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	JJHACK	10/04/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	SharpsShooter	10/04/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	atkinsonhunting	10/04/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	JJHACK	10/04/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	atkinsonhunting	10/06/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	zimhunter	10/08/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	Mule Deer	10/08/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	JJHACK	10/08/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	SharpsShooter	10/08/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	doclee	10/08/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	atkinsonhunting	10/12/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	Eremicus	10/13/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	DarkStar	10/14/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	RussF	12/02/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	dawaba	12/03/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	REJ	12/03/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	ingwe	12/03/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	Mule Deer	12/03/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	atkinsonhunting	12/03/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	Mule Deer	12/04/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	atkinsonhunting	12/09/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	Wildcatter264	10/15/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	beechdrvr	10/17/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	atkinsonhunting	10/19/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	beechdrvr	10/21/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	rosco1	10/21/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	JJHACK	10/21/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	jorgeI	10/22/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	458Win	10/22/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	Mule Deer	10/22/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	458Win	10/22/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	340boy	10/22/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	RickBin	10/22/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	340boy	10/22/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	Eremicus	10/22/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	Ringman	10/23/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	458Win	10/23/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	Ready	10/23/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	medicman	10/23/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	340boy	10/23/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	ingwe	10/23/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	Mule Deer	10/23/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	ingwe	10/23/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	340boy	10/23/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	458Win	10/23/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	340boy	10/23/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	Royce	10/23/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	jorgeI	10/27/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	458Win	10/27/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	Ringman	10/28/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	458Win	10/28/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	atkinsonhunting	11/01/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	458Win	11/01/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	BobinNH	11/02/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	bwinters	11/04/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	JS_LaCourse	11/04/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	Vagabond	11/15/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	atkinsonhunting	11/15/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	Mule Deer	11/15/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	Vagabond	11/16/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	Mule Deer	11/16/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	Vagabond	11/16/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	Mule Deer	11/16/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	Vagabond	11/16/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	BobinNH	11/17/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	jorgeI	11/17/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	Vagabond	11/18/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	458Win	11/20/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	Mule Deer	11/20/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	458Win	11/20/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	Mule Deer	11/20/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	JBoutfishn	11/20/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	Vagabond	11/20/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	Mule Deer	11/20/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	JJHACK	11/18/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	Vagabond	11/19/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	eyeguy	11/20/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	jorgeI	11/20/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	eyeguy	11/20/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	ingwe	11/20/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	Vagabond	11/20/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	BWalker	11/20/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	eyeguy	11/20/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	JBoutfishn	11/21/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	Vagabond	11/21/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	BobinNH	11/16/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	NAHunter	10/24/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	atkinsonhunting	10/24/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	458Win	10/24/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	ruger375	10/27/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	ingwe	10/27/09
Re: Penetration on african plains game with the NP and the Swift-A-Frames	jorgeI	10/28/09

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