Yes Deflave I am unemployed. It’s called retirement. So I need to know if all the naysayers on here believe that Trump dumped the economy for no reason. Answer the question boys. Ed k
Hey Deflave! I’m looking to the future not the past. Have a beautiful day. It’s still winter here. Lol ed k
You're looking at YOUR future.
With total disregard for everybody else's.
Serious question. Can't people in "high risk" categories turn this around and say the same to people who think it should be business as usual?
As in, "who give a f*ck about you old people?" Or "diabetes, that's your fault?"
Another serious question. If Trump is just going along with the hysteria to get re-elected, what about the economy? That's his biggest selling point, don't you think tanking the stock market has hurt him some?
If a person is involved in a situation that they feel makes them or a close friend/relative in danger from Covid-Y2K, they can react in two ways:
1) The Conservative way, respecting the Constitution and taking steps to protect themselves/others, using their own resources and abilities, and letting others live in freedom; or
2) The liberal way, demanding everyone else surrender their freedom and change their lives so they can feel better about their situation, while shredding the Constitution in the process.
I would argue that your #1, a complete "hands off" approach, leaving everyone to their own devices and trusting everyone to simply do the right thing in what was believed to be a critical health crisis isn't conservatism. It's further right on the scale. It's past libertarian. Strict constitutionalist? Anarchist? We are a compassionate country and a lawful country, and the problem with a 100% hands-off no response approach is that people won't play the the rules. Hence, we have LAWS, and a frame work for how our society is supposed to act and behave.
And I'd argue your #2 example, "demanding everyone surrender their freedom", would be further LEFT on the scale that you suggest. A fascist regime? Communism? It's not happened where I live. I can still eat, breath, practice free speech, worship, shoot, go for a drive, work, play outdoors. Some of these things are temporarily on hold, or more inconvenient, but it was thought to be extraordinary times.
So I'd suggest a #3 option, which you didn't list: --Shutting down obviously dangerous venues where tens or hundreds of thousands of people gather --People that can work from home, hell, why not work from home --Ask people to social distance --etc
No, I DON'T agree with people not being able to travel, drive, golf, to to their cottage, hunt, fish, and all of that. It's off the rails.
But some temporary common sense steps to help our country seems reasonable. And who knows, this thing may be fizzling out and ending up better than we'd hoped because of the steps we DID take.
Agree to disagree (and I know you will) but just because folks don't see in black and white and think that there can be some reasonable response to help our country get past this, doesn't make them a liberal or deep state jockey.
Constitution was written in black and (somewhat) white.
Your number 3 option is just taking your fellow citizens' freedom, but "just a little", or "incrementally", so liberals think that's OK.
It's not.
Anyone who agrees to "a few" violations of the Constitution, or just the ones that "make sense" at the moment, don't deserve to be protected by any part of the Constitution.
And don't whine that you've been labelled a liberal. Nobody's callin names. Just observin that you constantly post liberal thoughts.
True or false: following 9/11, you feel, and still feel that being screened at the airport is an overt and absolute violation of your rights and liberties?
Because your stance is, it is a violation. And anyone should be able to carry anything on, without being bothered. And I guess if another plane goes down, we will arrest what's left of the grease stain at that point.
The world isn't as simple and nice as you pretend it to be.
Italy reports that over 99% of it's covid-19 fatalities had other serious health problems.
A lot of folks in this country get obese, diabetic, hypertension, immune deficient, emphysema, etc, .....all through lifestyle choices of overeating, alcohol, drugs, smoking, needle sharing, unsafe sex practices, etc, etc.......
Now all of a sudden their health is important to them? Everybody needs to stop the world to save them?
We should crash the plane for a few sick passengers?
Isolate the most vulnerable, and keep the country moving.
This shyte is going to go down in history as one of the greatest hoaxes ever perpetrated. You Chicken Little types better start getting your stories straight now so you don’t look so gullible...
The democrat anti-American/socialist/communist policies, rules, regulations, and taxes will destroy America forever if we do not vote the democrats out of power in the 2020 election. They should be removed from office and off all the ballots for they offer nothing for America or the people to help make the country better.
Hey for the record, since we got some people thinking that planes explode when you shoot inside of them...
This Corona thing is not airborne. Everybody knows that right?
The only thing a mask could do is prevent snot and saliva from flying into your respiratory system after somebody sneezed 12" from your face.
I"m not too old but I can't recall anybody sneezing in my face within the past 42 years.
Not exactly correct.
It can be transmitted by aerosolized droplets which can remain airborne up to 3 hours after a sneeze.
There's also indications in can pass in fesses, and be suspended in aerosolized droplets after a toilet if flushed.
About the last thing you want to do right now is use a public restroom in a hot zone.
Nothing against 'sniper, but the virus laden turd smog floating above toilets in "hot spots" is [bleep] hilarious.... Who the hell schits in public restrooms in "hot spots", faux pandemic or not?
So which is it? Restrict travel, to slow down/control this virus?? Or let folks do whatever they want even the ones who are sick? Me personally think it’s overhyped bullshit. Most of you ph ucks sure in the ph uck didn’t care about the swine flu 11yrs ago. But all of the sudden the sky is falling we all are going to die tomorrow.
First example of 100% math aphasia.
Death rate compared to 11 years ago is at least one, probably several orders of magnitude greater. Perfect numbers are impossible, especially for this one, but in time it will be shown to be far deadlier.
At this point I suspect this is going right over your head.
So which is it? Restrict travel, to slow down/control this virus?? Or let folks do whatever they want even the ones who are sick? Me personally think it’s overhyped bullshit. Most of you ph ucks sure in the ph uck didn’t care about the swine flu 11yrs ago. But all of the sudden the sky is falling we all are going to die tomorrow.
First example of 100% math aphasia.
Death rate compared to 11 years ago is at least one, probably several orders of magnitude greater. Perfect numbers are impossible, especially for this one, but in time it will be shown to be far deadlier.
At this point I suspect this is going right over your head.
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Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Originally Posted by 79S
Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Originally Posted by 79S
So which is it? Restrict travel, to slow down/control this virus?? Or let folks do whatever they want even the ones who are sick? Me personally think it’s overhyped bullshit. Most of you ph ucks sure in the ph uck didn’t care about the swine flu 11yrs ago. But all of the sudden the sky is falling we all are going to die tomorrow.
Are you really as math challenged as you sound? Really?
Oh Art don’t be a retard.. let me go dig up your posts from 2009 let’s see how ph ucking brilliant you were back then..
Have at it!
But make sure and do the very simple math before embarrassing yourself further.
Ok ,, I have no idea what you referring by my math.. Swine flu occurred in 2009 which was what 11yrs ago. Far as my other comments about dying tomorrow was an exaggeration of people who think they get it will die in a matter of days. I realize you have a stick shoved up your ass and humor goes over your head daily...
Oh 2009 you were selling gold, not one word or post about the swine flu
Another example of your aphasia.
You fail to see the stark difference between the two epidemics and they are huge. Delaying the peak of the pandemic will mean far fewer people will die. Far fewer people outside the recognized compromised population will die. And far fewer people inside that group will die.
Your freedom is great until it steps on the toes of another, especially when your actions could easily kill others. I pity you for your self-centered idiocy.
Hey Art, exactly how many healthy 30 year olds have died from the OhSoDeadly Covid-19?
Therein lies part of the problem. Millennials, and younger healthier folks in general, have been educated to the point that they are not at risk. Therefore, they couldn't care less about who they are impacting (infecting) with their frivolity.
As a "boomer", as even many of the youngerlings here tend to call us, the lack of a sense of community that some youngers exhibit is sickening, and quite evident of a deeper reaching me-me-me mentality.
Yeah, I could die mutherfuker, but get this: What you'll be left with after my dust settles won't in any way resemble what I intended to leave you with.
Hey Art, exactly how many healthy 30 year olds have died from the OhSoDeadly Covid-19?
So it's okay to just kill off all the nonproductive citizens? Social Security and Medicare recipients are just a drain on society's resources anyway. Hell a bunch of these old fuggers probably have 401 K accounts. If we can kill them off those accounts can be handed over for their heirs to spend. Instant economy boost. Or perhaps nationalised.
Make Social Security and Medicare solvent again. And hey its a win/win situation. If we can kill off half of the old codgers fighting for Right to Life and supporting NRA, we can advance our social order initiatives.
Cool, it's time to cull the deplorables!
Just remember, Kroo88, your time is coming. One of these days you will be old and no longer an actual contributing member of society. Maybe by then, the Socialists will have no need of a disease to rid them of their deplorables. Perhaps they will just bring back Zyklon B and mass crematoria.
Jim, I haven't been able to get back to Montana for almost a month. I'm afraid that the local Hutterites are raiding my cabin for booze and weed. Have you seen any reports of wilding Hutts?
So which is it? Restrict travel, to slow down/control this virus?? Or let folks do whatever they want even the ones who are sick? Me personally think it’s overhyped bullshit. Most of you ph ucks sure in the ph uck didn’t care about the swine flu 11yrs ago. But all of the sudden the sky is falling we all are going to die tomorrow.
First example of 100% math aphasia.
Death rate compared to 11 years ago is at least one, probably several orders of magnitude greater. Perfect numbers are impossible, especially for this one, but in time it will be shown to be far deadlier.
At this point I suspect this is going right over your head.
Lol ok and you are one the guys running Around yelling sky is falling.. you are part of the problem.. But please tell us more, hell according to you are the smartest guy on the campfire. So tell us how is this one more deadlier? If it’s as bad as you think it is, why isn’t their a domestic travel ban? Again you in 09 you didn’t give two chits about h1n1 but today you are all freaked out yelling we are all going to die.
None of your "arguments" make any sense, none! If you wish to engage in a real discussion you should work at building an argument that flows through your theory and presents valid reasons to accept your assessment of the situation. I have detailed the importance of the repressed curve and the lower infection titer. The best you can do is claim anyone else said anything about the falling sky. That is not a valid argument. The only thing more ridiculous is trying to tie your idea of what the death rate should look like to reality. But I am guessing that look would elude you.
You claim we are the problem yet say absolutely nothing to support your idiotic claim.
I have never made claim to be the smartest guy on the fire and as a matter of fact will gladly list some I know here that I am in awe of. You will never be able to cite me making an argument to authority. You cannot cite one now.
"More deadlier?" And you really want to argue with anyone and think you will impress anyone else?
Yes, the information so far supports the fact the virus is deadlier than any other in our lifetimes, period.
You are attempting to conflate any number of different issues with absolutely no facts, statements, arguments, connections, or convincing cogitations. Without a reasonable argument you think you can convince anyone of anything?
Domestic travel ban? Really? Do you know what airlines do in addition to hauling freight?
My feelings about anything from 11 years ago are moot.
Mike dewine has turned Ohio into a police state. Now restaurants are closed except for drive-thru and no bars are to be open. We also have been told that schools are closed for 3 weeks but maybe until fall. Who the [bleep] does this troll think he is. When will people finally realize we are NOT free!
I am so angry I can't stand still. Government can just do this and everyone makes excuses for why it's a good idea? Do they think government is going to give back this power? Do they think that if government decided to take over that it would be open and obvious??? This is how it happens. They start with a plausible premise and then slowly tighten the grip.
One epidemiologist has predicted that 1.6 million Americans will die from the Corona Virus. This is based on contagion rates from China, Korea, Italy and Spain along with mortality rates from these countries. Maybe closing restaurants, bars, sporting events, schools, etc. can mitigate these numbers.
Lol ok and you are one the guys running Around yelling sky is falling.. you are part of the problem.. But please tell us more, hell according to you are the smartest guy on the campfire. So tell us how is this one more deadlier? If it’s as bad as you think it is, why isn’t their a domestic travel ban? Again you in 09 you didn’t give two chits about h1n1 but today you are all freaked out yelling we are all going to die.
There is ONE major difference between C-19 today and H1N1 eleven years ago.
C-19 is a brand new pathogen in the human population. There is zero pre-existing immunity.
H1N1 was simply a recurrence of the Spanish Flue of 1918. It is the same virus. Across the world the infection rate was only 24% in '99. There existed herd immunity to H1N1, because the virus had been extant in the population for 90 years.
The spread of C-19 is much more appropriately compared to the Spanish Flu of 1918 than the '99 occurence. Morbidity rates, infection rates, and mortality rates are nearly identical to 1918.
This is a story so grim, you may want not to read any further. It started off, my left hand was so cold. It felt as though the fingers of death were creeping through my hand. Then, unbelievably, my hand had moisture on it. Evidently, it was sweating. My ice cold hand was sweating!
And yet, the right hand had no symptoms. I knew I was in the grip of evil.
Some more minutes of horror passed, I felt dizzy, it felt as though the room was spinning. Honestly, I felt disoriented.
I looked up the CDC Hot Line, and I was starting to dial the number, with my right hand only, my left hand felt numb.
But then, I just drank another one, and went to bed.
Why do you idiots continue to make fun of a situation where MILLIONS of people are losing their jobs? Literally thousand of SMB's (that is, "Small and Medium Business" Simon, since I see you are from NC) will go BK.
I have also been told by two different people, one works in the Pentagon and other is a retired NSA agent, and my next door neighbor, that the government is developing plans to use the military to keep our infrastructure functioning, not shut down our country. Both said, "closing" hot spot cities like New York, major cities along the west coast and even cities like Nashville, could happen. But Marshall Law would not be declared. He said the National Guard would be delivering food if that happens, to those closed in.
This makes sense to me if you think about it. Truck drivers are not going to want to deliver food and medicine to hard hit areas and as American citizens, no one can make them do so. But our members of the military cannot refuse to do those chores. The military can also serve as a police force, emergency care workers, etc. I believe that will happen and will happen soon. The Posse Comitatus Act will be suspended if this happens but that act has been suspended before during the 60's.
People still acting like retards around here according to my brother. He went to town today and said there was people all over the place swamping grocery stores. It's going to spread like wild fire because of peoples stupidity. Most should have plenty of food and toilet paper to last for months by now. I haven't left the mountain here in over a week and don't intend to for quite some time. Wondering if there'll be dead bodies all over the streets and sidewalks when I finally do. If there are, It'll be their own damn stupid fault.
Go phugk yourself, moron. You're too stupid to understand the meaning of my post. Which is, young and dumb'ers here and about the internet have no respect - Period. Truth is, at 65, 2 years removed from open heart surgery, walking around with cancer, and a titanium plate in my chest, I'd still probably walk all over them and YOU.
Come get some. I'm outside every day painting my big ass house by myself in the south FL heat. Let's see how long you last.
Jim, I haven't been able to get back to Montana for almost a month. I'm afraid that the local Hutterites are raiding my cabin for booze and weed. Have you seen any reports of wilding Hutts?
Truly, a disaster in the making.
If they are out and about wilding, I sure hope they have their masks on.
People still acting like retards around here according to my brother. He went to town today and said there was people all over the place swamping grocery stores. It's going to spread like wild fire because of peoples stupidity. Most should have plenty of food and toilet paper to last for months by now. I haven't left the mountain here in over a week and don't intend to for quite some time. Wondering if there'll be dead bodies all over the streets and sidewalks when I finally do. If there are, It'll be their own damn stupid fault.
Well there are 316,000 cases of it here now and bodies being stacked in the back of U hauls outside funeral homes. Things might look a little different in Alaska than at ground zero ?
Jim, I haven't been able to get back to Montana for almost a month. I'm afraid that the local Hutterites are raiding my cabin for booze and weed. Have you seen any reports of wilding Hutts?
Truly, a disaster in the making.
If they are out and about wilding, I sure hope they have their masks on.
Geno
You can tell if they have been there or not.
After a good ransacking they will clean the place within an inch of its life.
Look for a reasonable bill under a rock on your porch.
Hey for the record, since we got some people thinking that planes explode when you shoot inside of them...
This Corona thing is not airborne. Everybody knows that right?
The only thing a mask could do is prevent snot and saliva from flying into your respiratory system after somebody sneezed 12" from your face.
I"m not too old but I can't recall anybody sneezing in my face within the past 42 years.
Not exactly correct.
It can be transmitted by aerosolized droplets which can remain airborne up to 3 hours after a sneeze.
There's also indications in can pass in fesses, and be suspended in aerosolized droplets after a toilet if flushed.
About the last thing you want to do right now is use a public restroom in a hot zone.
Nothing against 'sniper, but the virus laden turd smog floating above toilets in "hot spots" is [bleep] hilarious.... Who the hell schits in public restrooms in "hot spots", faux pandemic or not?
Those that have to go when they gotta go yet don’t have colostomy bags.
Jim, I haven't been able to get back to Montana for almost a month. I'm afraid that the local Hutterites are raiding my cabin for booze and weed. Have you seen any reports of wilding Hutts?
Truly, a disaster in the making.
If they are out and about wilding, I sure hope they have their masks on.
Geno
You can tell if they have been there or not.
After a good ransacking they will clean the place within an inch of its life.
Look for a reasonable bill under a rock on your porch.
I have a feeling that the rock is now through the front window.
Jim, I haven't been able to get back to Montana for almost a month. I'm afraid that the local Hutterites are raiding my cabin for booze and weed. Have you seen any reports of wilding Hutts?
Truly, a disaster in the making.
If they are out and about wilding, I sure hope they have their masks on.
Geno
You can tell if they have been there or not.
After a good ransacking they will clean the place within an inch of its life.
Look for a reasonable bill under a rock on your porch.
I have a feeling that the rock is now through the front window.
Well, some of them also dabble in glass repair........
I gotta confess, the PRC is whispering to me. I'll try to fight it.
I hear whispers too............
But just like the voices of the dead....................I try to ignore them..............
Wait until after The Corona..............might be a lot of firearms for sale when the panic driven buyers realize they don't have a place to shoot them in Los Angeles, and other cities. And the money will make a car payment.
Now that they've proven that they can lock down the whole world, what's the conditional rule going forward? Next year, if we have a slightly higher number of cases during the flu season, do we do this all again? They've set a precedent. Where do we go from here? Who decides the criteria for a future lock down? Do we get a say in the matter? Serious questions and they need serious answers. Whenever this thing is in the rear view mirror, we the people best make sure the control freaks in office don't have free reign to answer those questions however they see fit.
A Circle Jerk Gang (CJG) mass call-out thread, with the same little puppies looking at the ring leader hoping and begging for approval, as usual.
Might be the gayest fuggin thing I have ever seen on this forum.
The point of this thread has obviously sailed right over your head..... then again you being one of the main chicken "covid" little's this thread may hit closer to home than you care to admit.
I understand nobody likes to be fooled, let alone by the MSM.......
In the words of Mark Twain "it's easier to fool people than convince them they have been fooled"
Congratulations Duck , in my book you were the worst offender here.....
Maybe I should get one of their Mennonite relatives hereabouts as a concubine/housecleaner?
Bigamy isn't allowed, but the wife could use some help around here at times.
Geno
Tell my 14 yo he should marry an old order girl Everytime we see one. At least you'll have somebody to clean your deer, clean your house and cook you supper. A man could do worse if you can get past excessive body hair
Maybe I should get one of their Mennonite relatives hereabouts as a concubine/housecleaner?
Bigamy isn't allowed, but the wife could use some help around here at times.
Geno
Tell my 14 yo he should marry an old order girl Everytime we see one. At least you'll have somebody to clean your deer, clean your house and cook you supper. A man could do worse if you can get past excessive body hair
Be like snugglin' up with a warm puppy at night. Nothin' wrong with that...
Then again, I'm a boomer and hair don't scare me. I've "known" more than one hippie chick.
The news and resident hoaxers haven't let me know....
Just the brain.
Naw, really incredibly obvious to those who not only have a brain but actually exercise it what was going on CV19 and how much of a threat it was(n't).
Critical thinking/reading for context and content being a lost skill in this country.
Those graphs showing a flat line for weeks from February to now that suddenly shoot almost straight up are sobering. We have got to stay diligent about our exposures for the next few weeks.
The news and resident hoaxers haven't let me know....
Just the brain.
Naw, really incredibly obvious to those who not only have a brain but actually exercise it what was going on CV19 and how much of a threat it was(n't).
Critical thinking/reading for context and content being a lost skill in this country.
That was supposed to have a grins attached but your point is well taken, teal.
I know many here think it is a liberal ruse, and that COVID-19 won't amount to much. And, I am not a fear monger. But I am a realist.
It's called "Novel" coronavirus, because humans have zero immunity to it. That means, with no intervention (we continue life as usual), we can expect exponential growth.
Exponential growth is hard for us to visualize. But think of it as a run-away nuclear reaction. It's not linear, a steady, straight growth. It is "run-away" growth. The US is still in it's infancy with infection and death rates:
March 2nd: 100 cases March 8th: 500 cases March 11th: 1,000 cases March 15th: 3,000 cases March 17th: 5,000 cases March 19th: 9,500 cases
That list doesn't really seem to shocking, yea?
Let me type that in a different way to illustrate, it puts it into better perspective:
1st infection in US (Jan 21st) 41 days to get to 100 (March 2nd) 6 days to get to 500 (March 8th) 4 days to get to 1,000 (March 11th) 4 more days to get to 3,000 (March 15th) 2 more days to get to 5,000 (March 17th) 2 more days to get to 9,500 (yesterday)
....This trend will continue. But it may be positively impacted by self-quarantine, etc.
The exponential rates that this virus is taking hold here mean, infections and deaths will double roughly every 3 days.
And, we are at the very early, flat tail of what will be a line that shoots straight up. It hasn't even really started to ramp up here. It's likely that every one of us will know someone who gets infected, and some of us will know someone who dies.
In 2 weeks, I think many here will be shocked at the reality.
I know many here think it is a liberal ruse, and that COVID-19 won't amount to much. And, I am not a fear monger. But I am a realist.
It's called "Novel" coronavirus, because humans have zero immunity to it. That means, with no intervention (we continue life as usual), we can expect exponential growth.
Exponential growth is hard for us to visualize. But think of it as a run-away nuclear reaction. It's not linear, a steady, straight growth. It is "run-away" growth. The US is still in it's infancy with infection and death rates:
March 2nd: 100 cases March 8th: 500 cases March 11th: 1,000 cases March 15th: 3,000 cases March 17th: 5,000 cases March 19th: 9,500 cases
That list doesn't really seem to shocking, yea?
Let me type that in a different way to illustrate, it puts it into better perspective:
1st infection in US (Jan 21st) 41 days to get to 100 (March 2nd) 6 days to get to 500 (March 8th) 4 days to get to 1,000 (March 11th) 4 more days to get to 3,000 (March 15th) 2 more days to get to 5,000 (March 17th) 2 more days to get to 9,500 (yesterday)
....This trend will continue. But it may be positively impacted by self-quarantine, etc.
The exponential rates that this virus is taking hold here mean, infections and deaths will double roughly every 3 days.
And, we are at the very early, flat tail of what will be a line that shoots straight up. It hasn't even really started to ramp up here. It's likely that every one of us will know someone who gets infected, and some of us will know someone who dies.
In 2 weeks, I think many here will be shocked at the reality.
Then folks can deduce that the shutdowns and distancing worked to mitigate the spread that was anticipated.
Problem is, the numbers of INFECTED escalate to fast and violently, that even a drop in the mortality rate means hospitals STILL get overrun. Italy is fugged. People are dying in hospital hallways.
The real point of my post was, it is pretty hard to dismiss the exponential growth potential of this virus. It's undeniable, and real. And secondly, that folks are poo-pooing the issue because they've seen no tangible impacts, due to the fact that we are in the infancy of infection in the country, also an undeniable fact.
Even taking a best case scenario of average hospitalization and death rates (which is arguably unrealistic), this thing could easily overrun our healthcare system.
Do you guys REALLY think car manufacturers are going to stop making cars, and make medical equipment instead because they are in bed with the MSM and want to sabotage Trump? DO you REALLY think that is in the best interest of their shareholders?
The numbers that matter are the available beds, and the number of sick people that need them. Because without treatment, many of those that could be saved will die. And things are looking bad in that department as more and more case turn critical.
That............... is the key takeaway. Exponential growth, not slowed by people taking this seriously, will overrun the system. My entire point.
You both missed, and are making my point all at once.
These companies wouldn't be DOING THIS unless there will be a market and a need. There will be both. Which supports my hypothesis that most understand the issue of exponential growth and the impact of the virus.
Do you think Fortune 500 companies would be ramping up production if they thought this was "just a flu bug?" They have SHAREHOLDERS to answer to.
Liberal fascination with Italy, bout the same as their fascination with Russia, in '16.
It's unfortunate for the hysterical propagandists that nothing is happening here in the US.
Not sure your point. I am off the deep end conservative, borderline libertarian, I am no liberal. I could give a chit less about Italy. Cute post, but you're throwing out insults and not even rebutting data.
And again, you are are making my point for me, that dipchits like you are saying (in your words) "nothing is happening here in the US", when I am clearly showing that the ramp up is exponential, and just beginning here in the US.
I actually don't know why we are not, as a country, throwing everything at this. Trump is on board, it all looks good to me.
I have $100K cash sitting on the sidelines, plus a BUNCH of profit from shorting oil the last month. Data is limited (~40 person trials, anecdotal info from enemy countries) but I was surprised Trump went there so quickly, and the first sign that it is effective I will have my finger on the pulse of the market.
It won't kill the spike, and it won't eliminate the overload of our healthcare system, but if it is for real, the second the market realizes we dodged another depression, I already have my plan in place!
Good buying opp, especially if Trump is re-elected.
If this is more dangerous than the flu explain why the U.S. flu death numbers estimated at 10,000 compared to 260 Corona deaths.
It is disingenuous to compare fatalities of a disease that is still building momentum to anything else. I am more than a little disappointed to have to explain what should be painfully obvious to you.
I like the call out. Makes the giant internet tools recoil a bit, I'd imagine. Or maybe not.
Lots of views.
Few replies.
LMAO
You've spent, LITERALLY all day data mining snippets of conversation for your posts.
I was fishing (breaking in new fly rod, did OK), did a bit of yard work, and summer-ized the motorhome so I can work remote from the mountains. So yea, I haven't been posting.
But I'll play along with the CJG, because I am between a happy hour drink and dinner.
I've been clear and transparent in my assessment of the situation, and I have been on the record as being a) concerned at first when science didn't know what to expect, b) supportive of some responses, such as canceling 100,000 fan sporting events, and c) completely supportive of easing restrictions once we started to learn the realities of the virus. Incidentally, pretty much the same position as DocRocket ended up having, you you slap on the back.
The difference between you and me? You care a WHOLE LOT what others think and say. Me, I could give 2 chits what you or your merry band of idiots think or say, because I can think for myself.
No go walk your daughter down to the park and lick some swingset seats.
You guys just don’t get it! Millions of Americans are going to die. Like 2.2 million... Oh wait no there not!!!
BS from the start!!!
Maybe it’s because the progressives that come up with this schit are using that new fuzzy math technique they teach kids nowadays when they say 2.2 million.
Problem is, the numbers of INFECTED escalate to fast and violently, that even a drop in the mortality rate means hospitals STILL get overrun. Italy is fugged. People are dying in hospital hallways.
You got me confused with some one else big time on the mutation business.
And if you can post a quote where I spoke about mutations you will have my heartfelt apologies.
As to calling you a liar, I will stand behind those statements strongly as that was in response to you stating I was a liberal and a queer.
And yes, 3.5 million is a valid expectation, possibly conservative, if we do not get a handle on this thing soon. That is 1% of US population. The very similar H1N1 pandemic of 1918 killed 2% of the world population.
It is a very potentially devastating situation deserving of very strong response measures, which has been my only point for the last three weeks since I initially stated this situation was far worse than 9-11.
A possible treatment in quinine and Zithromax is a ray of sunshine. I surely hope it can prove curative and prove me wrong in all my predictions.
Nothing could possibly make me happier.
Oh, it is much much nicer to be having such a discussion in a civil manner.
Fubarski, early this morning I took the time to read some of your posts. Until recently, our paths seldom crossed. Unlike Dassa, you seem like a pretty smart guy. This is my little synopsis.
The world according to Fubarski...
Science is legitimate = False Dinosaurs existed = False Covid-19 is Flu = True Covid-19 is Cold = True God is real = True Believing in Evolution is believing in Global Warming = True All observations are unreliable = True The only real things are my values and beliefs = True
Fubarski, early this morning I took the time to read some of your posts. Until recently, our paths seldom crossed. Unlike Dassa, you seem like a pretty smart guy. This is my little synopsis.
The world according to Fubarski...
Science is legitimate = False Dinosaurs existed = False Covid-19 is Flu = True Covid-19 is Cold = True God is real = True Believing in Evolution is believing in Global Warming = True All observations are unreliable = True The only real things are my values and beliefs = True
In the USA, Wednesday there were 1000 dead. Saturday night it hit 2000. Might be something to be concerned about.
This is my take too.
I started watching the #s when they said infection rates and/or death toll would double every 4 days. We were at 200 dead then. That has since changed to roughly every 3 days.
yes. Some of us more than others though. Pretty much like it's always been. Just another transfer of wealth and liberty like 2008 but possibly on a larger scale.
Fubarski, early this morning I took the time to read some of your posts. Until recently, our paths seldom crossed. Unlike Dassa, you seem like a pretty smart guy. This is my little synopsis.
The world according to Fubarski...
Science is legitimate = False Dinosaurs existed = False Covid-19 is Flu = True Covid-19 is Cold = True God is real = True Believing in Evolution is believing in Global Warming = True All observations are unreliable = True The only real things are my values and beliefs = True
Fubarski, early this morning I took the time to read some of your posts. Until recently, our paths seldom crossed. Unlike Dassa, you seem like a pretty smart guy. This is my little synopsis.
The world according to Fubarski...
Science is legitimate = False Dinosaurs existed = False Covid-19 is Flu = True Covid-19 is Cold = True God is real = True Believing in Evolution is believing in Global Warming = True All observations are unreliable = True The only real things are my values and beliefs = True
Kingston, are you a college professor?
I don't think so.
I think we're all just clowns in the little car.
Some of us in the front seat think the view is WONDERFUL.
The ones in the back think the view looks like ASS.
Fubarski, early this morning I took the time to read some of your posts. Until recently, our paths seldom crossed. Unlike Dassa, you seem like a pretty smart guy. This is my little synopsis.
The world according to Fubarski...
Science is legitimate = False Dinosaurs existed = False Covid-19 is Flu = True Covid-19 is Cold = True God is real = True Believing in Evolution is believing in Global Warming = True All observations are unreliable = True The only real things are my values and beliefs = True
Kingston, are you a college professor?
I don't think so.
I think we're all just clowns in the little car.
Some of us in the front seat think the view is WONDERFUL.
The ones in the back think the view looks like ASS.
Fubarski, early this morning I took the time to read some of your posts. Until recently, our paths seldom crossed. Unlike Dassa, you seem like a pretty smart guy. This is my little synopsis.
The world according to Fubarski...
Science is legitimate = False Dinosaurs existed = False Covid-19 is Flu = True Covid-19 is Cold = True God is real = True Believing in Evolution is believing in Global Warming = True All observations are unreliable = True The only real things are my values and beliefs = True
Kingston, are you a college professor?
I don't think so.
I think we're all just clowns in the little car.
Some of us in the front seat think the view is WONDERFUL.
The ones in the back think the view looks like ASS.
Geno
And some are in the trunk and just want some fresh air...
Fubarski, early this morning I took the time to read some of your posts. Until recently, our paths seldom crossed. Unlike Dassa, you seem like a pretty smart guy. This is my little synopsis.
The world according to Fubarski...
Science is legitimate = False Dinosaurs existed = False Covid-19 is Flu = True Covid-19 is Cold = True God is real = True Believing in Evolution is believing in Global Warming = True All observations are unreliable = True The only real things are my values and beliefs = True
Kingston, are you a college professor?
I don't think so.
I think we're all just clowns in the little car.
Some of us in the front seat think the view is WONDERFUL.
The ones in the back think the view looks like ASS.
Geno
And some are in the trunk and just want some fresh air...
Apparently kaywoodie has the smarts not to join us here. Otherwise he would give a history lesson. As in, WAY back in the olden days, but quite a bit after Ingwe popped from the ground, "Italy" didn't exist. Just a bunch of principalities and such, ruled by dudes that fiddled as the fires burned, or they were off boning some Egyptian gal on an oar powered yacht.
So, perhaps the "Romans" killed the Communist Jewish Hippie "Love everyone" dude............but it wasn't the Italians.
Fubarski, early this morning I took the time to read some of your posts. Until recently, our paths seldom crossed. Unlike Dassa, you seem like a pretty smart guy. This is my little synopsis.
The world according to Fubarski...
Science is legitimate = False Dinosaurs existed = False Covid-19 is Flu = True Covid-19 is Cold = True God is real = True Believing in Evolution is believing in Global Warming = True All observations are unreliable = True The only real things are my values and beliefs = True
Kingston, are you a college professor?
I don't think so.
I think we're all just clowns in the little car.
Some of us in the front seat think the view is WONDERFUL.
The ones in the back think the view looks like ASS.
Geno
And some are in the trunk and just want some fresh air...
Fubarski, early this morning I took the time to read some of your posts. Until recently, our paths seldom crossed. Unlike Dassa, you seem like a pretty smart guy. This is my little synopsis.
The world according to Fubarski...
Science is legitimate = False Dinosaurs existed = False Covid-19 is Flu = True Covid-19 is Cold = True God is real = True Believing in Evolution is believing in Global Warming = True All observations are unreliable = True The only real things are my values and beliefs = True
Kingston, are you a college professor?
I don't think so.
I think we're all just clowns in the little car.
Some of us in the front seat think the view is WONDERFUL.
The ones in the back think the view looks like ASS.
Geno
And some are in the trunk and just want some fresh air...
Fubarski, early this morning I took the time to read some of your posts. Until recently, our paths seldom crossed. Unlike Dassa, you seem like a pretty smart guy. This is my little synopsis.
The world according to Fubarski...
Science is legitimate = False Dinosaurs existed = False Covid-19 is Flu = True Covid-19 is Cold = True God is real = True Believing in Evolution is believing in Global Warming = True All observations are unreliable = True The only real things are my values and beliefs = True
Kingston, are you a college professor?
I don't think so.
I think we're all just clowns in the little car.
Some of us in the front seat think the view is WONDERFUL.
The ones in the back think the view looks like ASS.
Geno
And some are in the trunk and just want some fresh air...
Ok so who is driving?
Who started this thread?
Geno
Well if Flave is driving... pray we don't run into a dui checkpoint or a Texas park ranger!
Fubarski, early this morning I took the time to read some of your posts. Until recently, our paths seldom crossed. Unlike Dassa, you seem like a pretty smart guy. This is my little synopsis.
The world according to Fubarski...
Science is legitimate = False Dinosaurs existed = False Covid-19 is Flu = True Covid-19 is Cold = True God is real = True Believing in Evolution is believing in Global Warming = True All observations are unreliable = True The only real things are my values and beliefs = True
Kingston, are you a college professor?
I don't think so.
I think we're all just clowns in the little car.
Some of us in the front seat think the view is WONDERFUL.
The ones in the back think the view looks like ASS.
Geno
And some are in the trunk and just want some fresh air...
Ok so who is driving?
Who started this thread?
Geno
Well if Flave is driving... pray we don't run into a dui checkpoint or a Texas park ranger!
Or a palm tree, the Everglades, or one of his neighborhood NY joos on a scooter on their way to the recreation room.
1st infection in US (Jan 21st) 41 days to get to 100 (March 2nd) 6 days to get to 500 (March 8th) 4 days to get to 1,000 (March 11th) 4 more days to get to 3,000 (March 15th) 2 more days to get to 5,000 (March 17th) 2 more days to get to 9,500 (March 19th) 2 more days to get to 26,686 (so far today)
Had a Google Duo "virtual happy hour" with my mother today, she is a nurse practitioner who runs a clinic for the undeserved in Northern California. She was taking a break at home, seemed pretty frazzled. She is a 68 year old who looks, acts, and works like a 40 year old, but I could see the tiredness in her eyes.
The situation there, is DIRE. The hospital in town is asking for any and all current and former nurses to volunteer to help, which she may do. Equipment shortages, and they expect a severe lack of beds within days.
Just a reminder, that this is serious, and media noise and internet noise (including here) might be starting to make us numb to reality....with so much noise on both sides of the political spectrum.
But here we are:
1st infection in US (Jan 21st) 41 days to get to 100 (March 2nd) 6 days to get to 500 (March 8th) 4 days to get to 1,000 (March 11th) 4 more days to get to 3,000 (March 15th) 2 more days to get to 5,000 (March 17th) 2 more days to get to 9,500 (March 19th) 2 more days to get to 26,686 (March 21st) 2 more days to get to 46,000 (TODAY)
This is just starting to ramp up in the US, that is reality, and fact.
I hope you all stay safe, respect your fellow American and hunker down even if you think it's some liberal hoax, and we can fizzle this thing out here quick....
Our daughter, Arielle, a final year nursing student in Boston. She has no need to step into the dragon's den and subject herself to this for the pay they offer, but that is not how she sees it.
But she stepped up to help any way she can (CNA role, as she is not a registered RN yet) at a Boston area hotel, which is now hosting COVID homeless patients.
This picture was from this morning, her first shift....
She just called us after her 12 hour shift, haggard, and with a tired voice, but in good spirits. She is a trooper. She is a bit shell shocked from the reality - a number of homeless were ferried off to trauma centers during her shift.
She is an angel in our eyes. It was an emotional conversation tonight. Mama and I are worried about our baby.
By week 2/1/2020 0 By week 2/8/2020 0 By week 2/15/2020 0 By week 2/22/2020 0 By week 2/29/2020 5 By week 3/7/2020 19 By week 3/14/2020 44 By week 3/21/2020 442 By week 3/28/2020 2117 By week 4/4/2020 3819
Shoulda checked with your fellow Covtards fore ya posted that.
Total of 5 COVID-Y2K deaths in February?
I don't think they're going to agree with you.
The fake numbers they've been throwin around since this thing started don't exactly line up with the CDC, do they?
The CDC, that is the official government repository for cold virus statistics, didn't show anybody dyin from Covid, up through March 24.
The liberals couldn't let that continue, so on March 24, the CDC started countin anybody that died, as dyin of Covid.
RIP Covid-Y2K, 11/10/19 - 03/24/20.
So the fake numbers was throwed in, and acourse the numbers started goin up.
Most of the "new" Covid numbers was just pneumonia deaths, as the CDC admits in the same page you took the fake numbers from.
Even then, CDC got a total of only 8,200 deaths from Covid, insteada the bullshit 24,000 number from fake news websites.
So, what can be done ta pump up the fake numbers? Ain't enough people dyin, so that they can be lied about.
Answer is, the liberal states been goin back in time, and countin people that died months ago as dyin from Covid, even though they weren't listed as dyin from Covid at the time.
No new tests, or anything, why bother? Just relisted em as Covid, and now countin em as "new" Covid deaths. Fake news, out the ass.
New York went back in time, and just today reclassified 3700 people that died in the recent past, as dyin of Covid.
To pump up the fake numbers.
So, in addition to cases, from March 24, deaths "mean jack s.hit."
Hey foamer,
You're reading right out of the Bolshevik playbook. Keep telling a lie long enough, until it becomes the truth. Only it's not really working. Here are a few cites published well before March 24 showing the first death was February 29:
When this morona crap blows over, and nothin more than a normal flu season has occurred, I'm sure you'll take the time outta your busy schedule to apologize to the fire for makin such an ass outta yourself."
You man enough to admit you don't know what you're talking about yet???
Current deaths in the USA - 695 Current recovered - 370 Cases without outcome - about 52,300. Just under 1200 of those are serious cases
Take a look at all of the graphs. Total cases, total deaths, new cases per day, new deaths per day. All those graphs are on linear scales - but the values being graphed are not rising linearly.
Per Michigan’s Govenor Whitmer, who joined a coalition with governors from 7 other states, everyone with mild COVID-19 symptoms is encouraged to go out and get tested. In this afternoon’s address she also repeatedly warned everyone to stay at home as “a trip to the gas station could kill someone’s grandmother”. She was presumably talking to healthy people, because sick people are told to go out and get tested. This follows her announcement yesterday allying with Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine, Wisconsin Gov. Tony Evers, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker, Indiana Gov. Eric Holcomb and Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear to develop a regional strategy for resuming economic activity.
Whitmer criticized guidance the White House Coronavirus taskforce outlined last night for not relying on enough testing. She attacked the notion that accelerated antibody testing of frontline healthcare workers would inform any strategy to reopen, instead insisting that widespread active disease testing was critical to determine whether communities are safe to reopen.
While the ‘East-Side’ of Michigan, a regional moniker applied to the Detroit area, has struggled with over 30,000 cases and 2000 deaths, the rest of Michigan has far fewer cases. As of 3PM today, Kent County, home to Michigan’s second largest city, Grand Rapids, has recorded 430 cases and 20 deaths. The vast majority of Michigan counties (66 of 83) record cases in the double and single digits, with more than a third of Michigan counties, 29 of 83, having cases in the single digits.
Whitmer’s strategy to have all but those with mild symptoms sheltering in place, runs counter to the White House’s “Slow the spread campaign”, which has consistently encouraged those with mild symptoms to stay home. We’ve been instructed that COVID-19 shares most of it’s symptoms with the flu and the common cold. Further, those infected with the novel coronavirus (COVID-19) exhibit symptoms shared with seasonal allergies.
Neither Whitmer nor her Chief Medical Officer, Dr. Joneigh Khaldun, offered any explanation supporting their radical shift from the plan prepared by Dr. Fauci and Dr. Brix. In this afternoon’s address, no rationale was made to support Michigan’s new direction. I fully expect to see other democrat governors follow suit. The press has long harped on a notion that every person must be tested before it’s safe to reopen America.
A week ago Thursday (3/12) I mentioned my close friend's wife (a nurse with a practice in WA) was already alarmed and that the situation was getting out of control.
I have been getting daily updates from him. He is in the 911/public safety biz like me - we are both voluntarily quarantined at home and locked out of the office since we are critical assets.
I know it's all a joke here, but in WA, they are very concerned about having to decide who gets a vent and who dies in the hallway.
Those that aren't looking seriously at this have their head in the sand. It's real, it's bad and it COULD get worse.
No the sky isn't falling, but they are trying to keep it from getting there.
The issue with this one is the geometric progression of unchecked spread. It has a doubling factor of 4 days if unchecked. This about that. 100,000 cases today, 200,000 by Monday, 400,000 by Friday..... Unchecked that's 2.4 MILLION cases by April 1. With a death rate of 1% (which is the lowest projection I've seen), that's 24,000 deaths.
Yes that's unchecked progression, and it is slowly steadying. and most/all countries are taken steps to slow it, so that's a worst case scenario, but this is real.
I, for now, have faith we are still looking at a shorter term state. Wife and I have a early June European vacation we haven't cancelled, YET. Hopefully this all blows over and we can go. Been looking forward to it for years.
You just have to be sane about this. consider where you are, what the current state is. If you are in cities where it has been found, isolate. IF not, don't worry, but track things. It's in pockets, avoid getting near the pockets. IF I still lived in NH where there are a decent amount of cases, wife and I wouldn't be doing much out for eating out, movies, etc. However I live in WY, very far from the 1 case found here. Not changing much if anything about our immediate plans. Hopefully it clears up by summer as there's no tourist flow here now, but come summer.....
You are like hysterical woman for hells sake!!! Get a grip.
Just a quick reality check. I know many of us are already getting numb to the MSM blitz. Other of us live in areas that have had minimal impact, to date. Others, maybe just don't give a chit.
But the reality is, we are relatively early in the curve still. This chart (now a day or two behind) shows the recent identified cases. Each dot is a day. I don't post it to sensationalize anything, or to try to give any credence to "the sky is falling". But it does show a pretty vertical line of identified cases.
Yes, some of that is due to increased testing. But there is also undoubtedly some pretty aggressive infection rates. I don't think anyone can argue that. So for all you "the flu is worse" guys, the whole point that so many of us have been trying to make is, even with lower CFR than initially thought (thank GOD!), the sheer VOLUME could be problematic. And as you can see, there WILL be more volume. And that has ALWAYS been the concern.
I hope those of you here that are completely dismissing this as some media hoax aren't running around in your communities and being irresponsible. You will only help to prolong this mess.
Identified US cases by day: (FYI: Chart is a day or two behind - we will be at ~100k cases by the end of today)
The usual: you can go for a drive, get gas, hit the supermarket, grab an ounce of whacky tobaccy, then a handle of Jack, then head home.
Wont change my life a bit. For a week and a half my wife and I have been working from home. Walking the dog during the day, running quick errands when necessary but trying to be reasonable, responsible, caring citizens.
I know many here think it is a liberal ruse, and that COVID-19 won't amount to much. And, I am not a fear monger. But I am a realist.
It's called "Novel" coronavirus, because humans have zero immunity to it. That means, with no intervention (we continue life as usual), we can expect exponential growth.
Exponential growth is hard for us to visualize. But think of it as a run-away nuclear reaction. It's not linear, a steady, straight growth. It is "run-away" growth. The US is still in it's infancy with infection and death rates:
March 2nd: 100 cases March 8th: 500 cases March 11th: 1,000 cases March 15th: 3,000 cases March 17th: 5,000 cases March 19th: 9,500 cases
That list doesn't really seem to shocking, yea?
Let me type that in a different way to illustrate, it puts it into better perspective:
1st infection in US (Jan 21st) 41 days to get to 100 (March 2nd) 6 days to get to 500 (March 8th) 4 days to get to 1,000 (March 11th) 4 more days to get to 3,000 (March 15th) 2 more days to get to 5,000 (March 17th) 2 more days to get to 9,500 (yesterday)
....This trend will continue. But it may be positively impacted by self-quarantine, etc.
The exponential rates that this virus is taking hold here mean, infections and deaths will double roughly every 3 days.
And, we are at the very early, flat tail of what will be a line that shoots straight up. It hasn't even really started to ramp up here. It's likely that every one of us will know someone who gets infected, and some of us will know someone who dies.
In 2 weeks, I think many here will be shocked at the reality.
This little gem needs to be brought to the top....... hahahhahahahahah
Figures don't lie, but liars figure- - - - -especially if they're dummycraps like dumbphuck with an agenda to tank the economy and bring down a President! Jerry
What if they're not lying, not wanting to tank the economy, don't want to bring down the president,but can also look at the numbers and realize that the new case rate in the USA was growing exponentially until about a week ago. At that point, the 7 day moving average number of new cases seems to have levelled out at just over 30k per day. With the last two days actually showing a downward trend. Do you not think that Trump himself has people looking this over? How likely is this to explain his stance yesterday that the nation is about ready to get back to work?
Don't trust the media? Take the total case data from the CDC:
Plug it into your spreadsheet and voila, easy to come up with new cases per day, as well as a 3 day or 7 day moving average. Chart it out even - it's easy peasy!
Please understand that I do not post these quotes to belittle or insult other members.
I do it because I want everyone to recognize how fear driven beliefs become cult like. Notice that none of the believers have apologized, or admitted that they overreacted. They have accepted their new religion as fact, and will defend it to the very end.
These people are dangerous and their opinions should carry no value. They are easily duped and will sacrifice your freedom for their (perceived) safety.
This concludes my Public Service Announcement for the day. However I do reserve the right to dig up more stupidity whenever I am drunk and bored.
Please understand that I do not post these quotes to belittle or insult other members.
I do it because I want everyone to recognize how fear driven beliefs become cult like. Notice that none of the believers have apologized, or admitted that they overreacted. They have accepted their new religion as fact, and will defend it to the very end.
These people are dangerous and their opinions should carry no value. They are easily duped and will sacrifice your freedom for their (perceived) safety.
This concludes my Public Service Announcement for the day. However I do reserve the right to dig up more stupidity whenever I am drunk and bored.
Deacon Dave
You are to be commended for proving that the Lockdown and social distancing actually worked in the mitigation of the exponentially of Co-19.
As stated previously, your opinion holds no value.
You have proven yourself to be weak minded.
The opportunity to atone, has passed.
Such rudeness is uncalled for.
You are no longer a Brother. You are a Mother,,,,,of a sort.
Once more: All of your diligence and hard work to prove that the present National course is, in fact, the correct one is deeply appreciated by all who truly understand the situation.
As stated previously, your opinion holds no value.
You have proven yourself to be weak minded.
The opportunity to atone, has passed.
Such rudeness is uncalled for.
You are no longer a Brother. You are a Mother,,,,,of a sort.
Once more: All of your diligence and hard work to prove that the present National course is, in fact, the correct one is deeply appreciated by all who truly understand the situation.
Please understand that I do not post these quotes to belittle or insult other members.
I do it because I want everyone to recognize how fear driven beliefs become cult like. Notice that none of the believers have apologized, or admitted that they overreacted. They have accepted their new religion as fact, and will defend it to the very end.
These people are dangerous and their opinions should carry no value. They are easily duped and will sacrifice your freedom for their (perceived) safety.
This concludes my Public Service Announcement for the day. However I do reserve the right to dig up more stupidity whenever I am drunk and bored.
All kidding aside, if you told JiminST that the virus wasn't deadly,,,,,,You'd look pretty stupid..........
5 weeks in an induced comma.......holy hell.
Has anyone on this board ever said that the virus isn’t deadly?
If so I’d like to see the quote.
Such assertions in debates are called poisoning the well and is a sign of the weakness of the argument of that person.
In point of fact all of these things can be (and are) true at the same time:
1) for certain groups the virus is very dangerous
2) for the population at large the virus is no more dangerous than other things in which we engage regularly with little to no thought for their danger
3) closing down the economy very likely did more damage than not closing it would have*
*the oft-repeated mantra that the falling numbers of cases demonstrates the efficacy of the lockdown is a fallacy; the numbers presented immediately before & during the lockdown TOOK INTO ACCOUNT THE PRESUMED EFFECT OF THE LOCKDOWN, therefore they offer no such proof at all.
The continued devotion of the faithful to this narrative is indicative of a deep and abiding problem for the future of the country.
As has been asked several times already, I’m interested to hear where lines of demarcation are that will guide similar actions in the future now that the gullibility factor of the sheeple is seen to be as high as it is.
If you think that this is a hoax or overblown, then go to a hospital and volunteer. It will help dispel the hoax, provide for some relief to overworked medical staff, and help the panic subside.
Give your remote relatives your fire login in case you are wrong, because we will want them to log in and give us details so that we can send you flowers, and you will earn hero status for helping with unselfish generosity in a time of national need.
This really is win-win for you AND us - if it's a hoax, we find out, and if it's not, you did your part to help.
Good luck! John
My daughter is charge nurse at a Seattle area hospital. If anyone here think this is a hoax, you are very dense or just plain stupid.
I talk to her every night and to see and hear the strain in her voice tears my heart out.
All kidding aside, if you told JiminST that the virus wasn't deadly,,,,,,You'd look pretty stupid..........
5 weeks in an induced comma.......holy hell.
That’s all you guys ever have to fall back on. That and the numbers which are also false. Yes, it’s a very deadly virus for a small percentage of the population but the response was akin to burning your house down to kill a spider.
Just had 2 C19,s zoom right by me again. Now they are in area 26 on Fort Campbell for christ sakes.. . Thank god I had my leafy camo face mask on. They didnt see me!!!
All kidding aside, if you told JiminST that the virus wasn't deadly,,,,,,You'd look pretty stupid..........
5 weeks in an induced comma.......holy hell.
That’s all you guys ever have to fall back on. That and the numbers which are also false. Yes, it’s a very deadly virus for a small percentage of the population but the response was akin to burning your house down to kill a spider.
I have no idea who in the hell "you guys" is, I offered a simple statement that some may have different opinions than others.
Update from a Seattle hospital. 60% capacity. Waaaay overstaffed. Bored out of their skulls. Weight gain has been the norm among staff. The vast majority of patients coming from nursing facilities.
All kidding aside, if you told JiminST that the virus wasn't deadly,,,,,,You'd look pretty stupid..........
5 weeks in an induced comma.......holy hell.
That’s all you guys ever have to fall back on. That and the numbers which are also false. Yes, it’s a very deadly virus for a small percentage of the population but the response was akin to burning your house down to kill a spider.
I have no idea who in the hell "you guys" is, I offered a simple statement that some may have different opinions than others.
A thirty year old in good health, no worries,
Your aging dad might feel different about it.
So you still didn’t answer the question. Who said it isn’t deadly?
As stated previously, your opinion holds no value.
You have proven yourself to be weak minded.
The opportunity to atone, has passed.
Such rudeness is uncalled for.
You are no longer a Brother. You are a Mother,,,,,of a sort.
Once more: All of your diligence and hard work to prove that the present National course is, in fact, the correct one is deeply appreciated by all who truly understand the situation.
All kidding aside, if you told JiminST that the virus wasn't deadly,,,,,,You'd look pretty stupid..........
5 weeks in an induced comma.......holy hell.
That’s all you guys ever have to fall back on. That and the numbers which are also false. Yes, it’s a very deadly virus for a small percentage of the population but the response was akin to burning your house down to kill a spider.
I have no idea who in the hell "you guys" is, I offered a simple statement that some may have different opinions than others.
A thirty year old in good health, no worries,
Your aging dad might feel different about it.
So you still didn’t answer the question. Who said it isn’t deadly?
Ahhh, finally you get it. You are still a Brother.
As stated previously, your opinion holds no value.
You have proven yourself to be weak minded.
The opportunity to atone, has passed.
Such rudeness is uncalled for.
You are no longer a Brother. You are a Mother,,,,,of a sort.
Once more: All of your diligence and hard work to prove that the present National course is, in fact, the correct one is deeply appreciated by all who truly understand the situation.
*the oft-repeated mantra that the falling numbers of cases demonstrates the efficacy of the lockdown is a fallacy; the numbers presented immediately before & during the lockdown TOOK INTO ACCOUNT THE PRESUMED EFFECT OF THE LOCKDOWN, therefore they offer no such proof at all.
The argument being made is that declining rates of infection and mortality demonstrate the efficacy of extreme social distancing (lockdown).
*the oft-repeated mantra that the falling numbers of cases demonstrates the efficacy of the lockdown is a fallacy; the numbers presented immediately before & during the lockdown TOOK INTO ACCOUNT THE PRESUMED EFFECT OF THE LOCKDOWN, therefore they offer no such proof at all.
The argument being made is that declining rates of infection and mortality demonstrate the efficacy of extreme social distancing (lockdown).
What would you consider "extreme"?
No sports on TV......thats pretty extreme.
I see some "mild" social distancing......."casual" social distancing. Not anything extreme.
*the oft-repeated mantra that the falling numbers of cases demonstrates the efficacy of the lockdown is a fallacy; the numbers presented immediately before & during the lockdown TOOK INTO ACCOUNT THE PRESUMED EFFECT OF THE LOCKDOWN, therefore they offer no such proof at all.
The argument being made is that declining rates of infection and mortality demonstrate the efficacy of extreme social distancing (lockdown).
What would you consider "extreme"?
No sports on TV......thats pretty extreme.
I see some "mild" social distancing......."casual" social distancing. Not anything extreme.
A million business's shut down, for distancing purposes, isn't extreme?
Please understand that I do not post these quotes to belittle or insult other members.
I do it because I want everyone to recognize how fear driven beliefs become cult like. Notice that none of the believers have apologized, or admitted that they overreacted. They have accepted their new religion as fact, and will defend it to the very end.
These people are dangerous and their opinions should carry no value. They are easily duped and will sacrifice your freedom for their (perceived) safety.
This concludes my Public Service Announcement for the day. However I do reserve the right to dig up more stupidity whenever I am drunk and bored.
Deacon Dave
This is the purpose of this thread..... duh Pretty clear to me......
As stated previously, your opinion holds no value.
You have proven yourself to be weak minded.
The opportunity to atone, has passed.
Such rudeness is uncalled for.
You are no longer a Brother. You are a Mother,,,,,of a sort.
Once more: All of your diligence and hard work to prove that the present National course is, in fact, the correct one is deeply appreciated by all who truly understand the situation.
Question: Are you applying that to Flave’s posse members ? Surely so.
Well let’s see... what do you think of of the response to this virus? Justified?
I think that Trump made the right decisions and that he still is doing so especially in reopening America but in the safest manner with what is available.
The Governors,,,,Man, that’s wide open prairie and so much overdone. I see many people ignoring those orders.
Whether it ALL is justified remains to be seen barring any reoccurrences which Italy now is reportedly seeing according to this morning’s paper.
I hate to say it that I believe we’re still early in this game with results yet unknown.
We do know that the economic price is and will be horrendous.
Please understand that I do not post these quotes to belittle or insult other members.
I do it because I want everyone to recognize how fear driven beliefs become cult like. Notice that none of the believers have apologized, or admitted that they overreacted. They have accepted their new religion as fact, and will defend it to the very end.
These people are dangerous and their opinions should carry no value. They are easily duped and will sacrifice your freedom for their (perceived) safety.
This concludes my Public Service Announcement for the day. However I do reserve the right to dig up more stupidity whenever I am drunk and bored.
Deacon Dave
This is the purpose of this thread..... duh Pretty clear to me......
I was scared as hell at first. We stocked up on stuff when Japan shut down all her schools.
We was washing groceries!
As far as a trial run goes....I think it went pretty well.
Please understand that I do not post these quotes to belittle or insult other members.
I do it because I want everyone to recognize how fear driven beliefs become cult like. Notice that none of the believers have apologized, or admitted that they overreacted. They have accepted their new religion as fact, and will defend it to the very end.
These people are dangerous and their opinions should carry no value. They are easily duped and will sacrifice your freedom for their (perceived) safety.
This concludes my Public Service Announcement for the day. However I do reserve the right to dig up more stupidity whenever I am drunk and bored.
Deacon Dave
This is the purpose of this thread..... duh Pretty clear to me......
As stated previously, your opinion holds no value.
You have proven yourself to be weak minded.
The opportunity to atone, has passed.
Such rudeness is uncalled for.
You are no longer a Brother. You are a Mother,,,,,of a sort.
Once more: All of your diligence and hard work to prove that the present National course is, in fact, the correct one is deeply appreciated by all who truly understand the situation.
Question: Are you applying that to Flave’s posse members ? Surely so.
Well let’s see... what do you think of of the response to this virus? Justified?
I think that Trump made the right decisions and that he still is doing so especially in reopening America but in the safest manner with what is available.
The Governors,,,,Man, that’s wide open prairie and so much overdone. I see many people ignoring those orders.
Whether it ALL is justified remains to be seen barring any reoccurrences which Italy now is reportedly seeing according to this morning’s paper.
I hate to say it that I believe we’re still early in this game with results yet unknown.
We do know that the economic price is and will be horrendous.
Please understand that I do not post these quotes to belittle or insult other members.
I do it because I want everyone to recognize how fear driven beliefs become cult like. Notice that none of the believers have apologized, or admitted that they overreacted. They have accepted their new religion as fact, and will defend it to the very end.
These people are dangerous and their opinions should carry no value. They are easily duped and will sacrifice your freedom for their (perceived) safety.
This concludes my Public Service Announcement for the day. However I do reserve the right to dig up more stupidity whenever I am drunk and bored.
Deacon Dave
This is the purpose of this thread..... duh Pretty clear to me......
You mean the part about drunk and bored, surely.
No..... the part about cult like behavior... ignoring evidence that goes against your narrative... the fact the MSM & politicians duped you so easily.....
I see some "mild" social distancing......."casual" social distancing. Not anything extreme.
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Businesses are not people.
A hair salon will not get sick from Covid19.
^^^^You’re smarter than this ^^^^
Shutting down all but “essential” components of the largest economy in the world to prevent close social interaction is the definition of extreme social distancing.
Please understand that I do not post these quotes to belittle or insult other members.
I do it because I want everyone to recognize how fear driven beliefs become cult like. Notice that none of the believers have apologized, or admitted that they overreacted. They have accepted their new religion as fact, and will defend it to the very end.
These people are dangerous and their opinions should carry no value. They are easily duped and will sacrifice your freedom for their (perceived) safety.
This concludes my Public Service Announcement for the day. However I do reserve the right to dig up more stupidity whenever I am drunk and bored.
Deacon Dave
This is the purpose of this thread..... duh Pretty clear to me......
You mean the part about drunk and bored, surely.
No..... the part about cult like behavior... ignoring evidence that goes against your narrative... the fact the MSM & politicians duped you so easily.....
People don't run business? No people in the building?
I must be reading you wrong Jim, apologies if so...............
Sure, they run businesses......but no one stayed home.
Jim, with all due respect, millions have stayed home, Hotels, Sports, Movie theaters ,Restaurants, Offices, all closed for months.
I think your remote area doesn't offer the visible signs this area shows, I drive to work and the highways are almost empty....
There is no "that should just about do it" aspect to personal protection. If what they have been saying is true about this virus....simply shutting down bars and restaurants and beaches would have had little effect.
Our town is DEAD. The town over west is hopping.
This global killer was stopped by shutting down a restaurant....but capacity crowds at the pharmacy and grocery store was okay?
People don't run business? No people in the building?
I must be reading you wrong Jim, apologies if so...............
Sure, they run businesses......but no one stayed home.
Jim, with all due respect, millions have stayed home, Hotels, Sports, Movie theaters ,Restaurants, Offices, all closed for months.
I think your remote area doesn't offer the visible signs this area shows, I drive to work and the highways are almost empty....
There is no "that should just about do it" aspect to personal protection. If what they have been saying is true about this virus....simply shutting down bars and restaurants and beaches would have had little effect.
Our town is DEAD. The town over west is hopping.
This global killer was stopped by shutting down a restaurant....but capacity crowds at the pharmacy and grocery store was okay?
^ This.
There are so many contradictions to the Gov recommendations that it borders on insanity. You can do this, but you can’t do that. Wear a mask but you don’t have to wear mask because they are effective yet ineffective at the same time. I remember before this all started just about every doctor on record stating that hand sanitizer was a bad thing to do and they would all recommend washing your hands with simple soap. What ever happened to that one?
Bottom line is, human beings being human beings hate to feel they’ve been duped. I think it’s why a lot of these Corona believers are hanging on to the fairy tale they were fed by the MSM.
I showed caution in the beginning after Trump declared the virus serious enough to recommend social distancing - which I did.
After Congress got their fingers in the pie and started to hijack the message and turn truths, lies, and hysteria into a platform and agenda to ruin the economy, thus, ruin Trump, I called BS.
I am on record for playing “Kick Fubarski in the Nuts” on a thread - but that was fun, and Fubarski has a Kevlar protected sack, so, no harm, no foul.
Me, like the rest of us, will eventually contract this virus. I would like to catch it later, rather than sooner, after mo-better treatments are vetted and shown to work.
I’ve been back to work for a month now...It’s business as usual with 6’ separation from people/customers I don’t know.
We were told by the wizards of smart (Fauchi, Birx) the whole purpose of sheltering in place was to flatten the curve in order to not overwhelm the healthcare system. They were spectacularly wrong.... hospitals sit empty.... yet they are still pushing shelter in place.... hello.... connect the dots people.... atone... put your pride aside and get on the side of truth, freedom and independence... Do not allow them to enslave you by using fear..... Simple... or you can continue to argue the lefts talking points.... your choice.... just don't expect any respect from the lovers of freedom.....
*the oft-repeated mantra that the falling numbers of cases demonstrates the efficacy of the lockdown is a fallacy; the numbers presented immediately before & during the lockdown TOOK INTO ACCOUNT THE PRESUMED EFFECT OF THE LOCKDOWN, therefore they offer no such proof at all.
The argument being made is that declining rates of infection and mortality demonstrate the efficacy of extreme social distancing (lockdown).
What would you consider "extreme"?
No sports on TV......thats pretty extreme.
I see some "mild" social distancing......."casual" social distancing. Not anything extreme.
Dang Jim,
NO HOCKEY PLAYOFFS IS EXTREME ENOUGH FOR MY TASTES.
You're correct, the social distancing thing was kind of a cluster fugg, eh?
And your comment in the other post about PPE etc and "social diseases"...............you had a good teacher it would seem.
Not sure how this is all going to play out...................but I'm getting tired of the game.
We had an excellent teacher who instructed us on Body Substance Isolation, PPE, and infectious disease.
When it comes to BSI and PPE, you are either kidding yourself or you are not.
99 percent of the time we are kidding ourselves.
I don't really know anything about BSI or PPE, except that you should squint when grinding and squint even harder when welding. That being said, I did wonder if perhaps people are largely fooling themselves about how "social distancing"(the stupidest sounding term since "shelter in place"...I swear to [bleep] the .gov has a contest to come up with the most retarded labels they can find) is keeping them safe. All the stores that were allowed to remain open here shortened their hours....somehow forcing people to go to the store in a smaller time window is helpful I guess? Many are wearing masks(mostly homemade looks like) and gloves, but how many are wearing those when they take their purchases home and wash them properly before removing said PPE?
My position is to allow people to do as they wish as much as possible, so I have no issue with anyone wanting to wear the masks and gloves, but it seems to me that it probably is more about feeling protected than actually being protected. If this thing turned out to be as bad as some of the earliest predictions said it was, would a homemade mask and some lunch lady gloves really cut it? I think one day the real thing will arrive, a true killer that's going to decimate the population. If and when that happens, my plan would be to make one trip as early as possible and collect all the supplies I need to hold out for minimum 4 months, go home and lock the place down. I don't know why the people who are afraid now don't do this. Instead they wander around town glaring at anyone who isn't following their idea of safety, then going home and bitchin online about how crazy and irresponsible the people where in town today while they were just out trying to pick up "essentials" for the 3rd time this week.
New York's hospitals have been overwhelmed; the ICU's have been so filled that dying patients have been lined up in corridors along with those with lesser infections. There is simply no space, medical treatment time or, resources to fully care for them.
The death toll has been so high that NYC has rented refrigerated trailers to store then bodies. Funeral homes and crematoriums are overwhelmed as well. The City has been has been burying bodies stacked on top of each other in mass graves on Hart Island.
As I've described in previous posts, I was part of the Task Force for the H1N1 virus 10 years ago (fortunately, it didn't fully develop). As part of this activity, we were briefed on Triage measures that might be needed; the decisions that have to be made to save the most people and the most productive people are rather frightening.
Two weeks ago, a doctor in a New York hospital described her experiences in the New York Times. In one case, a woman entered the ER with moderate Covid-19 symptoms, the doctor examined her, told her to sit in a chair and await treatment. The doctor returned to her other patients; she pronounced several people dead and a couple of hours later, a nurse told her the woman in the chair had died.
So, the question might be: Are people being murdered or, has there been a shortage of medical staff, equipment, facilities, etc.?
The argument being made is that declining rates of infection and mortality demonstrate the efficacy of extreme social distancing (lockdown).
You know you found a believer whenever you see "efficacy" or "exponential."
LOL[/quote]
Do words scare you dave? You seem to be intimidated easily. I know that's why you love to lash out, but really, learn a few words like "exponential". They mean stuff.
Please understand that I do not post these quotes to belittle or insult other members.
I do it because I want everyone to recognize how fear driven beliefs become cult like. Notice that none of the believers have apologized, or admitted that they overreacted. They have accepted their new religion as fact, and will defend it to the very end.
These people are dangerous and their opinions should carry no value. They are easily duped and will sacrifice your freedom for their (perceived) safety.
This concludes my Public Service Announcement for the day. However I do reserve the right to dig up more stupidity whenever I am drunk and bored.
Deacon Dave
Which is, of course, 100% of the time.
Leroy,
Remember when you said you could PROVE that you weren't a lesbian?
Please understand that I do not post these quotes to belittle or insult other members.
I do it because I want everyone to recognize how fear driven beliefs become cult like. Notice that none of the believers have apologized, or admitted that they overreacted. They have accepted their new religion as fact, and will defend it to the very end.
These people are dangerous and their opinions should carry no value. They are easily duped and will sacrifice your freedom for their (perceived) safety.
This concludes my Public Service Announcement for the day. However I do reserve the right to dig up more stupidity whenever I am drunk and bored.
Deacon Dave
Which is, of course, 100% of the time.
Leroy,
Remember when you said you could PROVE that you weren't a lesbian?
LMAO.
I could. So what? Again, understand the words. You need to work on that. Start by being a good listener.
Do words scare you dave? You seem to be intimidated easily. I know that's why you love to lash out, but really, learn a few words like "exponential". They mean stuff.
I believe we have narrowed it down to two leaders yeah?
Flave on one side and Kingston on the other.
Not trying to marginalize DJS who stood shoulder to shoulder with President Wilson in the fight against the Spanish Flu.....but we are on a bit of a truncated time frame.
So, out of curiosity fellas.....you are not both trying to prove how easy it is to manipulate people....are ya?
Get folks to deny him three times?
Sell themselves out for the popular opinion?
Just wondering. I dont wanna invest myself too deeply only to find out it was an experiment.
Please understand that I do not post these quotes to belittle or insult other members.
I do it because I want everyone to recognize how fear driven beliefs become cult like. Notice that none of the believers have apologized, or admitted that they overreacted. They have accepted their new religion as fact, and will defend it to the very end.
These people are dangerous and their opinions should carry no value. They are easily duped and will sacrifice your freedom for their (perceived) safety.
This concludes my Public Service Announcement for the day. However I do reserve the right to dig up more stupidity whenever I am drunk and bored.
Deacon Dave
Which is, of course, 100% of the time.
Leroy,
Remember when you said you could PROVE that you weren't a lesbian?
LMAO.
I could. So what? Again, understand the words. You need to work on that. Start by being a good listener.
Originally Posted by deflave
Leroy,
Please explain how you intend on proving that you're not a lesbian.
LMFAO.
NOM! NOM! NOM! NOM!
Holy Schit! I didn't think this could get any better. Can’t wait to hear this, Hold on! I’m about to run to the store. I’m gonna buy an extra, extra large bag of popcorn.
Reminds of that time seafire posted that thread about the Sierra gamechanger. He said the bullet failed, soon as he had cell service called Sierra to tell them the bullet failed. The recovery of deer was left up in the air, did they recover it? Or did he not recover it? The only person to defend his post, was good ol Trystan. When you have trystan defending you, you might want to rethink your position. Same thing applies here, you don’t want leroybeans agreeing with you.. some cases sycamore
Geno....whats that one deal where they hang on to a scarf with one hand and have a knife in the other?
fuggin I don't know.
sounds ferrin to me, like maybe something them "dot" injuns might do. Maybe even Rez injuns?
Might be cool to watch, but not with the two adversaries being discussed here. I like them too much to see either with a bad cut.
Maybe if they used them rubber "bayonets" we used to get with our cap firing rifles back before that stuff became off limits due to "safety concerns".
Geno
You are right.
My Eskimo blood lust got the best of me there for a second.
Hey, I sometimes think disputes might best be settled on an ice floe, with harpoons, while each is tied to their kayak to keep it from floating away. Lots of ways to win. Spear the dude, push him backwards into the frozen brine, or even cut his kayak tie and paddle off by yourself hoping he doesn't get back to the village. If he does, he's one tough cookie.
Reminds of that time seafire posted that thread about the Sierra gamechanger. He said the bullet failed, soon as he had cell service called Sierra to tell them the bullet failed. The recovery of deer was left up in the air, did they recover it? Or did he not recover it? The only person to defend his post, was good ol Trystan. When you have trystan defending you, you might want to rethink your position. Same thing applies here, you don’t want leroybeans agreeing without you.. some cases sycamore
Hey, I sometimes think disputes might best be settled on an ice floe, with harpoons, while each is tied to their kayak to keep it from floating away. Lots of ways to win. Spear the dude, push him backwards into the frozen brine, or even cut his kayak tie and paddle off by yourself hoping he doesn't get back to the village. If he does, he's one tough cookie.
Hey, I sometimes think disputes might best be settled on an ice floe, with harpoons, while each is tied to their kayak to keep it from floating away. Lots of ways to win. Spear the dude, push him backwards into the frozen brine, or even cut his kayak tie and paddle off by yourself hoping he doesn't get back to the village. If he does, he's one tough cookie.
Reminds of that time seafire posted that thread about the Sierra gamechanger. He said the bullet failed, soon as he had cell service called Sierra to tell them the bullet failed. The recovery of deer was left up in the air, did they recover it? Or did he not recover it? The only person to defend his post, was good ol Trystan. When you have trystan defending you, you might want to rethink your position. Same thing applies here, you don’t want leroybeans agreeing without you.. some cases sycamore
I didn't have time to read it all, but has Kingston been crucified yet? He owes me money so if you could stick to just torturing him a little while I'd appreciate it.
Hey, I sometimes think disputes might best be settled on an ice floe, with harpoons, while each is tied to their kayak to keep it from floating away. Lots of ways to win. Spear the dude, push him backwards into the frozen brine, or even cut his kayak tie and paddle off by yourself hoping he doesn't get back to the village. If he does, he's one tough cookie.
Geno
Why can't weed be legal everywhere?
It is.................
when one doesn't believe in laws, and only runs on morals. (Kind of like what some folks do in regards to The Corona "laws" )
Geno
PS, I had to give it up years and years ago............Probably no longer need it much, though.
My replaced knee still aches on occasion. I had an appoint, year follow up, but cancelled because.....................The Corona.
I still walk a mile plus every day, plus do scheidt around the 7 Acre RANCH every day, and I don't take any meds other than the supplements I've been taking for years for all the other arthritis in my body.
The rest of me hurts somedays, enough to take "a pill" every once in awhile. Wish I could go in and get a shot in my back, but you know...........................The Corona.
Geno
PS sshhh, we don't say anything about the good knee.............it's 65 years old and doesn't have a zirc fitting to keep it lubed and the bushings moving well.
I've seen the video, but I don't believe he's 100% correct. There's lots of information out there to indicate that you can get the disease by just being in close proximity to other people, and breathing the same air they exhale.
So what you say "if you get the disease now, it's your fault" isn't necessarily true. Lots of people work at jobs that require them to be up close to their co-workers or customers. Construction, restaurants, barber shops, health care.
Lots of people don't own cars and need to take either public transportation or a ride share like uber to get around.
My replaced knee still aches on occasion. I had an appoint, year follow up, but cancelled because.....................The Corona.
I still walk a mile plus every day, plus do scheidt around the 7 Acre RANCH every day, and I don't take any meds other than the supplements I've been taking for years for all the other arthritis in my body.
The rest of me hurts somedays, enough to take "a pill" every once in awhile. Wish I could go in and get a shot in my back, but you know...........................The Corona.
Geno
PS sshhh, we don't say anything about the good knee.............it's 65 years old and doesn't have a zirc fitting to keep it lubed and the bushings moving well.
Remember when you referred you our knees as left and right
Can someone please summarize briefly what this thread is about?
Some of the Covid Chorus Girls are getting offended when their shrill, panicky posts are re-posted. Others are attempting a very hard-to-execute backpedal without a helmet.
No,no. Due process is a different thing. It's all wrapped up in, “No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States.” (If you read in context it's clear that "the state" means any of the several states.)
The rights embodied within the Bill of Rights are generally found to be within the privileges and immunities" stated in the 14th Amendment (on a case by case basis, can't think of an exception). Second Amendment for example Hence the Court held that state lav cannot be violative of the right to keep and bear arms..
Doesn't hold water.
As to the Second Amendment, it IS a right enumerated and for all citizens by the Constitution, so using 2A as your argument is specious.
It does state that States can deprive with due process. It also fails to define "privileges and immunities"
"shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law".
14A has been interpreted to go far beyond the script, and I'm not complaining.
Here's a hint: Rad the 14th Amendment, salient part quoted in my post above (privileges and immunities clause). That is the vehicle by which states were incorporated into certain restrictions in the Bill of Rights.
The Due Process clause still doesn't bar States from denying the privileges and immunities by due process within the State. States can enact laws and decrees that deny the privileges, etc. and enforce the procedures by due process.
I saw a guy today, alone in his car wearing a stylized mask................please tell me WTF is wrong with people like this??????
Is he realy that stupid or paranoid?
(We have a lot of medical people in my house: wife is an RN, son is a PA, his wife isan MD.) They all just shake their heads.
MM
Tehy put on the mask when they leave the house, and don't take it off until they return. Keep in mind if a mask happens to capture a corona droplet and you touch your mask....what was the point. And what do you do with your potentially infected mask while in your car....set it on the passengers seat?
The idea is to not touch the mask until it comes off, and goes straight into the garbage.....outside your home before you re-enter.
Had forgot all bout the musical fruit, but now that she's posted in the thread:
Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
Originally Posted by MILES58
Originally Posted by ERK
I love how all the arm chair quarterbacks have more knowledge and information and facts than the president of the USA. You go girls. Ed k
You mean the president who flat out on television declared that the disease was a HOAX??? That president???
Yeah, that guy. What's his latest prognostication on the number of deaths from this hoax? I think it is like 40-60k now that he is projecting but we blew through 40k yesterday. We will probably blow through 60 in short order. The "flattening" is slowing the numbers, but not stopping them.
How is that cure for CV19 coming? And that vaccination? Didn't he say that "we" were making great progress on that and it would be any day now? What was that?
Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
Originally Posted by kid0917
the death-doubling -every 4 -days prediction, has us at 144,000 dead today. I am glad whatever is working....is working.
An one time it WAS doubling every 4 days. all that social distancing that distresses you so, helped cut into that rate of return.
This is not rocket science, but clearly above many here.
Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
Originally Posted by humdinger
If Trump was the leader he thinks he was, he should have been looking at the situation and getting ahead of it instead of pretending to be a know it all.
"Its just the flu... Think about it" is his famous tweet.
You got it exactly right. But here, it's not being right that counts. Only worshipping His Orangeness is accepted. He can do no wrong.
Yup, trajectory, math, and lots of leadership stupidity. Luckily, the midlevel types (governors for the most part) are doing a good job, but it won't be enough. The feds have to step up and they are already 50 meters behind in a 100 meter race.
We can only imagine how bad it would be for the American people if the "Magic Negro" Obama and "Feel-em-Up" Biden were still in charge. I shudder to think about it. Or worse yet, Over-the-Hillary.
No question we would be MUCH better off. They would have moved early on instead of playing the HOAX card. The economy would be better to, w/o the $0.5T cash gift to the big .coms.
That seems more than a bit disingenuous seeing how the Obama Administration "responded" to the 2009 H1N1 swine flu pandemic.
That's up to you to think so. Note that H1N1 did NOTHING like what CV19 is and will do.
But regardless, chirping about the past won't change the future. Two wrongs won't make a right, and we are totally screwed because the orange one resisted doing what needed to be done until it was too late, not to mention he dismantled the pandemic task force he had in place when he came into office and refused to listen to people who knew exactly what they were talking about. Too late now. We all pay the price for his stupidity and mistakes.
Not that there was any doubt bout queeroy bein on the wrong side of anything.
IMO it takes a lot of folks some time to digest things mentally, thus many are still in denial over this.
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by DryPowder
Serious
50
I think people are basing their opinions on the death toll and that really isn't the issue, the issue is the hospitalizations. With 10 people in the hospital for every death, this could overwhelm our hospital system if we did't clamp down.
Are liberal governors being stupid, yes.
Some people are jacked off about the overinflated death toll. The other option is to do over 10,000 autopsies for what? If someone wants to hammer Trump about the COVID deaths at least he can claim he cured cancer
Very true. In places like NYC where the best evidence indicates it has hit hard, there was no good way to autopsy. I'm sure one of our medical experts will be along shortly to debunk me on that and I pre-yield to their greater knowledge with only the hintest of sarcasticism.
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by doubletap
No such thing as the normal flu. Frequently, the approved flu shot isn’t correct for that years flu strain.
First thing many Coronavirus deniers ask somebody who is scared of it is, "did you even take your flu shot this year?". "This year" if you took a flu shot you may have taken it back in September, in which case, it probably wore off in mid-December and you are vulnerable again. Plus the fact that this year's flu shots were only partially effective...less so than usual because IIRC the one they vaccinated for only accounted for like 40% of the flu's that were being experienced. I have no idea if later-given flu vaccines were/are more effective due to a change in the recipe.
The main info we have on this remains from Asia. Many questions are unanswered. Best to take all the precautions you can to not get it and at the same time, not panic.
God bless the Covids it has brought us all together. Feel the love here it is strong. Its been painful, financially mostly. So with pain we identify the enemy(s) and hate them like a mutha fugga.. it makes us feel better. The love is strong. The hate is strong. It is good.
God bless the Covids it has brought us all together. Feel the love here it is strong. Its been painful, financially mostly. So with pain we identify the enemy(s) and hate them like a mutha fugga.. it makes us feel better. The love is strong. The hate is strong. It is good.
My replaced knee still aches on occasion. I had an appoint, year follow up, but cancelled because.....................The Corona.
I still walk a mile plus every day, plus do scheidt around the 7 Acre RANCH every day, and I don't take any meds other than the supplements I've been taking for years for all the other arthritis in my body.
The rest of me hurts somedays, enough to take "a pill" every once in awhile. Wish I could go in and get a shot in my back, but you know...........................The Corona.
Geno
PS sshhh, we don't say anything about the good knee.............it's 65 years old and doesn't have a zirc fitting to keep it lubed and the bushings moving well.
Remember when you referred you our knees as left and right
Instead of good and bad?? 🤣🤣
Boy that would be going back a LONG ways.
When I was 12 I had issues with my knees locking up at night. Wake up with bent leg, couple of hours before I could get it straight. Or vice versa. Hot dip treatment (they didn't have a jacuzzi there, PT, elastic bandages. Over the years it got better until the arthritis started!
Have we decided who is right, wrong, or sitting on a fence (Not a sybian fence, just a regular one)
Geno
PS, only on the Hunter's Campfire can a thread go from old folks dying and some non-boomer types not giving a fugg to Octomom on Howard Stern riding a masturbation machine..................How cool it that.
We are seeing that all of this lock down and shutting down the business had little-to-no effect on the spread of the virus nor the number of dead. We ignored the Constitution, shut down our economy, and wrecked the lives of Americans all for nothing. Guess what, we aren’t done yet. No justice left in the country.
IMO it takes a lot of folks some time to digest things mentally, thus many are still in denial over this.
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
[quote=DryPowder]Serious
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I think people are basing their opinions on the death toll and that really isn't the issue, the issue is the hospitalizations. With 10 people in the hospital for every death, this could overwhelm our hospital system if we did't clamp down.
Are liberal governors being stupid, yes.
Some people are jacked off about the overinflated death toll. The other option is to do over 10,000 autopsies for what? If someone wants to hammer Trump about the COVID deaths at least he can claim he cured cancer
Very true. In places like NYC where the best evidence indicates it has hit hard, there was no good way to autopsy. I'm sure one of our medical experts will be along shortly to debunk me on that and I pre-yield to their greater knowledge with only the hintest of sarcasticism.
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by doubletap
No such thing as the normal flu. Frequently, the approved flu shot isn’t correct for that years flu strain.
First thing many Coronavirus deniers ask somebody who is scared of it is, "did you even take your flu shot this year?". "This year" if you took a flu shot you may have taken it back in September, in which case, it probably wore off in mid-December and you are vulnerable again. Plus the fact that this year's flu shots were only partially effective...less so than usual because IIRC the one they vaccinated for only accounted for like 40% of the flu's that were being experienced. I have no idea if later-given flu vaccines were/are more effective due to a change in the recipe.
The main info we have on this remains from Asia. Many questions are unanswered. Best to take all the precautions you can to not get it and at the same time, not panic.
Just another vain attempt at silencing a true patriot.
Thanks for the backup buddy. I don't like being braggy.
Just a quick clarification please........you are a liberal if you dont want the Corona?
Not the way I see it from behind enemy lines (CA). If you're a liberal, you want everyone other than you and fellow liberals to get the Corona and you're even ok with some of your own being harmed as long as it can justify further encroachments on civil rights. If you're not a liberal you might just want to be left alone (there are plenty of non-liberal idiots, so I can't make a blanket statement about that).
Got anymore courtesy hospital tours from your imaginary doctor buddy ?
Keep us posted on your prevarications.[/quote]
This thread is for the stupid shat you posted in the past, not stupid shat you're postin now.
Next time, post your stupid shat in another thread, wait a while, then copy it over into this one.
Thank you in advance for your cooperation.[/quote]
The stupid scchitt I posted was penned by you and now you want to disown it.
How bout it. Any hospital courtesy tours lately ?
Don’t run from the question.[/quote]
Toot I will be your "huckleberry" the hospital tours were, well empty and employees furloughed.......[/quote
Never knew that you and fubarski were that close. But it’s a true podnah who covers for a buddy.
I admire that. [/quote]
Old Toot , I never knew you and Leroy Beans were so close...... damn[/quote]
I didn’t know that either but it does certainly appear from this thread that he’s a cut considerably above the sheriff and his posse, good ole boys that they be.
I didn’t know that either but it does certainly appear from this thread that he’s a cut considerably above the sheriff and his posse, good ole boys that they be.
I didn’t know that either but it does certainly appear from this thread that he’s a cut considerably above the sheriff and his posse, good ole boys that they be.
Quite possibly your gang has maligned the man.
Ya reckon?
That was easy.
LOL
Ol' Poof puts stupid on a tee, and let's ya see how far ya can whack it.
I didn’t know that either but it does certainly appear from this thread that he’s a cut considerably above the sheriff and his posse, good ole boys that they be.
Quite possibly your gang has maligned the man.
Ya reckon?
That was easy.
LOL
So that the simple minded Sheriff and his posse can understand things. Got to keep it on the low level.
I didn’t know that either but it does certainly appear from this thread that he’s a cut considerably above the sheriff and his posse, good ole boys that they be.
Quite possibly your gang has maligned the man.
Ya reckon?
That was easy.
LOL
The question is .... who is on top ? Toot or Leroy? maybe they swing both ways?
I didn’t know that either but it does certainly appear from this thread that he’s a cut considerably above the sheriff and his posse, good ole boys that they be.
Quite possibly your gang has maligned the man.
Ya reckon?
That was easy.
LOL
The question is .... who is on top ? Toot or Leroy? maybe they swing both ways?
Only with you in between us. We’ll take turns with you.
I didn’t know that either but it does certainly appear from this thread that he’s a cut considerably above the sheriff and his posse, good ole boys that they be.
Quite possibly your gang has maligned the man.
Ya reckon?
That was easy.
LOL
The question is .... who is on top ? Toot or Leroy? maybe they swing both ways?
Only with you in between us. We’ll take turns with you.
Ya like it ?
Yes I like sex with a pretty women..... you and Leroy ?.... well thanks for the offer but not my thing.....
I won't judge ... you boys enjoy... oh wait, Leroy is a lesbian.... damn this is so complicated
I didn’t know that either but it does certainly appear from this thread that he’s a cut considerably above the sheriff and his posse, good ole boys that they be.
Quite possibly your gang has maligned the man.
Ya reckon?
That was easy.
LOL
The question is .... who is on top ? Toot or Leroy? maybe they swing both ways?
Only with you in between us. We’ll take turns with you.
Ya like it ?
Yes I like sex with a pretty women..... you and Leroy ?.... well thanks for the offer but not my thing.....
I won't judge ... you boys enjoy... oh wait, Leroy is a lesbian.... damn this is so complicated
That’s okay. We’ve still got Flavo. False teeth and all.
I didn’t know that either but it does certainly appear from this thread that he’s a cut considerably above the sheriff and his posse, good ole boys that they be.
Quite possibly your gang has maligned the man.
Ya reckon?
That was easy.
LOL
The question is .... who is on top ? Toot or Leroy? maybe they swing both ways?
Only with you in between us. We’ll take turns with you.
Ya like it ?
Yes I like sex with a pretty women..... you and Leroy ?.... well thanks for the offer but not my thing.....
I won't judge ... you boys enjoy... oh wait, Leroy is a lesbian.... damn this is so complicated
That’s okay. We’ve still got Flavo. False teeth and all.
Yes you do. You can bang him all day long for all I care. He seems to be the type that would love that.
How can anyone with half a brain still buy into this Covid BS???
You are correct; the 73,000+ dead Americans certainly don't believe in Covid-19. And, while Utah has only had 58 deaths so far, the disease is coming your way.
How can anyone with half a brain still buy into this Covid BS???
You are correct; the 73,000+ dead Americans certainly don't believe in Covid-19. And, while Utah has only had 58 deaths so far, the disease is coming your way.
Yeah....... we should shut the country down every bad flu season......
How can anyone with half a brain still buy into this Covid BS???
You are correct; the 73,000+ dead Americans certainly don't believe in Covid-19. And, while Utah has only had 58 deaths so far, the disease is coming your way.
Yeah....... we should shut the country down every bad flu season......
How can anyone with half a brain still buy into this Covid BS???
You are correct; the 73,000+ dead Americans certainly don't believe in Covid-19. And, while Utah has only had 58 deaths so far, the disease is coming your way.
Yeah....... we should shut the country down every bad flu season......
Only if it is as bad as CoVid.
Yes the flu kills up to up to 646,000 people worldwide..... shut that schit down in bad flu years......
I still don't know anyone who has died from the China virus. And pretty sure that I won't. This is all BS and has been from the start, if your old, live in a nursing home and in failing health you might should consider the China flu a threat. Otherwise you have to be a real dumbass to by into this China flu BS. I figured Trump signed on to the China virus BS for money or a vote. But Trump might be doing this to MAGA and turn everyone against China and bring manufacturing back to the US of A.
How can anyone with half a brain still buy into this Covid BS???
You are correct; the 73,000+ dead Americans certainly don't believe in Covid-19. And, while Utah has only had 58 deaths so far, the disease is coming your way.
Yeah....... we should shut the country down every bad flu season......
Only if it is as bad as CoVid.
Hey Leroy, do you realize automobile accidents kill 1,350,000 a year.... good grief... shut that schit down also!
I still don't know anyone who has died from the China virus. And pretty sure that I won't. This is all BS and has been from the start, if your old, live in a nursing home and in failing health you might should consider the China flu a threat. Otherwise you have to be a real dumbass to by into this China flu BS. I figured Trump signed on to the China virus BS for money or a vote. But Trump might be doing this to MAGA and turn everyone against China and bring manufacturing back to the US of A.
Here it is! The most delusional post of the day, probably the week too.
How can anyone with half a brain still buy into this Covid BS???
You are correct; the 73,000+ dead Americans certainly don't believe in Covid-19. And, while Utah has only had 58 deaths so far, the disease is coming your way.
Yeah....... we should shut the country down every bad flu season......
Only if it is as bad as CoVid.
Oh man, heart disease kills 56 million a year... we should ban that schit.... wtf?
How can anyone with half a brain still buy into this Covid BS???
You are correct; the 73,000+ dead Americans certainly don't believe in Covid-19. And, while Utah has only had 58 deaths so far, the disease is coming your way.
Yeah....... we should shut the country down every bad flu season......
Only if it is as bad as CoVid.
Hey Leroy, do you realize automobile accidents kill 1,350,000 a year.... good grief... shut that schit down also!
I thought y’all said all those were listed as having succumbed to Covid just a short while back ??
How can anyone with half a brain still buy into this Covid BS???
You are correct; the 73,000+ dead Americans certainly don't believe in Covid-19. And, while Utah has only had 58 deaths so far, the disease is coming your way.
Go stick your head in the sand you fool. Fatality rate of less than one percent but let’s shutdown the whole country.
I still don't know anyone who has died from the China virus. And pretty sure that I won't. This is all BS and has been from the start, if your old, live in a nursing home and in failing health you might should consider the China flu a threat. Otherwise you have to be a real dumbass to by into this China flu BS. I figured Trump signed on to the China virus BS for money or a vote. But Trump might be doing this to MAGA and turn everyone against China and bring manufacturing back to the US of A.
Here it is! The most delusional post of the day, probably the week too.
How can anyone with half a brain still buy into this Covid BS???
You are correct; the 73,000+ dead Americans certainly don't believe in Covid-19. And, while Utah has only had 58 deaths so far, the disease is coming your way.
Yeah....... we should shut the country down every bad flu season......
Only if it is as bad as CoVid.
Hey Leroy, do you realize automobile accidents kill 1,350,000 a year.... good grief... shut that schit down also!
And the Vietnam War only killed what, ~55k Americans? Not worth even mentioning.
How can anyone with half a brain still buy into this Covid BS???
You are correct; the 73,000+ dead Americans certainly don't believe in Covid-19. And, while Utah has only had 58 deaths so far, the disease is coming your way.
Yeah....... we should shut the country down every bad flu season......
Only if it is as bad as CoVid.
Hey Leroy, do you realize automobile accidents kill 1,350,000 a year.... good grief... shut that schit down also!
And the Vietnam War only killed what, ~55k Americans? Not worth even mentioning.
And they shut that down...... but seriously you want to use a war as an example? lets compare apples to wolverines why don't we? Are you really this intellectually bankrupt?
How can anyone with half a brain still buy into this Covid BS???
You are correct; the 73,000+ dead Americans certainly don't believe in Covid-19. And, while Utah has only had 58 deaths so far, the disease is coming your way.
Yeah....... we should shut the country down every bad flu season......
Only if it is as bad as CoVid.
Hey Leroy, do you realize automobile accidents kill 1,350,000 a year.... good grief... shut that schit down also!
And the Vietnam War only killed what, ~55k Americans? Not worth even mentioning.
And they shut that down...... but seriously you want to use a war as an example? lets compare apples to wolverines why don't we? Are you really this intellectually bankrupt?
Don't give me that bullshiitt. You are the one that dove in with auto fatalities. You are so full of shiitt, even deflave can't quantify it.
How can anyone with half a brain still buy into this Covid BS???
You are correct; the 73,000+ dead Americans certainly don't believe in Covid-19. And, while Utah has only had 58 deaths so far, the disease is coming your way.
Yeah....... we should shut the country down every bad flu season......
Only if it is as bad as CoVid.
Hey Leroy, do you realize automobile accidents kill 1,350,000 a year.... good grief... shut that schit down also!
And the Vietnam War only killed what, ~55k Americans? Not worth even mentioning.
And they shut that down...... but seriously you want to use a war as an example? lets compare apples to wolverines why don't we? Are you really this intellectually bankrupt?
Don't give me that bullshiitt. You are the one that dove in with auto fatalities. You are so full of shiitt, even deflave can't quantify it.
You are correct; the 73,000+ dead Americans certainly don't believe in Covid-19. And, while Utah has only had 58 deaths so far, the disease is coming your way.
Yeah....... we should shut the country down every bad flu season......
Only if it is as bad as CoVid.
Hey Leroy, do you realize automobile accidents kill 1,350,000 a year.... good grief... shut that schit down also!
And the Vietnam War only killed what, ~55k Americans? Not worth even mentioning.
And they shut that down...... but seriously you want to use a war as an example? lets compare apples to wolverines why don't we? Are you really this intellectually bankrupt?
Don't give me that bullshiitt. You are the one that dove in with auto fatalities. You are so full of shiitt, even deflave can't quantify it.
Ban cars... if it saves one life.......
You really can't get around your being an idiot can you? Most people here are funny stupid, but you are just plain fuukking stupid.
You really can't get around your being an idiot can you? Most people here are funny stupid, but you are just plain fuukking stupid.
Some of us smoke 8-bit cigars some 4-bit cigars and some two-bit cigars. Leroy I think you smoked 0bit cigars[/quote]
If that would include no cigars, then yup. no bits spent on cigars. I do like 40-bit beers and have one right now. Thank god. The amount of stupidity that irfubar is capable requires a decent brew. And he brags about it? Stupid is as stupid does. And irfubar leads the way in that regard.
deflave, get something worthy warmed up. This is pathetic.
How can anyone with half a brain still buy into this Covid BS???
You are correct; the 73,000+ dead Americans certainly don't believe in Covid-19. And, while Utah has only had 58 deaths so far, the disease is coming your way.
Yeah....... we should shut the country down every bad flu season......
Only if it is as bad as CoVid.
Hey Leroy, do you realize automobile accidents kill 1,350,000 a year.... good grief... shut that schit down also!
And the Vietnam War only killed what, ~55k Americans? Not worth even mentioning.
Well retard I lost a cousin in Vietnam. And some friends especially during the agent orange aftermath. Death hits close to home, and I know no one that has died from the China virus. It's all BS and your an idiot to think otherwise. You must be a fn liberal?
The funny thing is that everyone argues about deaths (myself included), but if we think back, the panic was about flattening the curve. In other words, the virus will still run through the population and still kill about as many. It will just be spread over a longer time.
The funny thing is that everyone argues about deaths (myself included), but if we think back, the panic was about flattening the curve. In other words, the virus will still run through the population and still kill about as many. It will just be spread over a longer time.
The funny thing is that everyone argues about deaths (myself included), but if we think back, the panic was about flattening the curve. In other words, the virus will still run through the population and still kill about as many. It will just be spread over a longer time.
The argument for flattening the cure was about managing limited healthcare resources and buying time to develop therapies and a vaccine.
The funny thing is that everyone argues about deaths (myself included), but if we think back, the panic was about flattening the curve. In other words, the virus will still run through the population and still kill about as many. It will just be spread over a longer time.
The funny thing is that everyone argues about deaths (myself included), but if we think back, the panic was about flattening the curve. In other words, the virus will still run through the population and still kill about as many. It will just be spread over a longer time.
A fact lost on many
Which fact?
That absent a treatment or vaccine, which we don’t have, the same amount of people will contract the virus and the same amount of people will die.
The funny thing is that everyone argues about deaths (myself included), but if we think back, the panic was about flattening the curve. In other words, the virus will still run through the population and still kill about as many. It will just be spread over a longer time.
A fact lost on many
Which fact?
That absent a treatment or vaccine, which we don’t have, the same amount of people will contract the virus and the same amount of people will die.
Not a fact at all. Spreading out the numbers does save lives. First the medical facilities will not get swamped giving patients better care with appropriate support. NY was the only place that really got swamped, but that is simply because the plan worked and a few very unexpected things happened.
Second, and huge, is the fact lower numbers of cases and the social distancing reduced the viral load (titer, whatever label you prefer) making each individual's immune system better able to deal with the virus. In swamped areas patients got far heavier infections in far less time making it harder to fight.
Both of these items saved lives. The same number of people may come in contact with the virus but the severity will be reduced.
The unexpected and huge impact of the Isreali protocol of hydrochloroquine and zinc was the real difference. Medical staff started using it early on prophylactically resulting in far fewer of them getting sick. It is remarkable how few of them got sick.
Trump blew it by telling the public too early, before supplies were available, and got the media beating him down. He is now sitting on that nugget, waiting to drop it at an important time. It is the single most important element in the fight.
Now for the important questions about the Isreali research that brought forward the treatment protocol: what led them to the proper treatment so quickly? Obviously they were already doing research and knew about the effect before the pandemic. Did they expect an attack on themselves with some version of coronavirus? Or were they planning to use a coronavirus as a biological weapon and studying effective treatments for their soldiers and citizens?
Back in the '70s there was an outbreak of Eastern Equine Encephalomyelitis and the US military immediately supplied everyone affected with a vaccine. Though they denied planning to use it as a bioweapon it raised questions.
I still only know of of one person, I'm connected to who died from Covid, and it was a co-worker's parent I'd never met. I know one person that's been struck by lightning, and three that have one million dollar plus lottery wins.
Now for the important questions about the Isreali research that brought forward the treatment protocol: what led them to the proper treatment so quickly? Obviously they were already doing research and knew about the effect before the pandemic. Did they expect an attack on themselves with some version of coronavirus? Or were they planning to use a coronavirus as a biological weapon and studying effective treatments for their soldiers and citizens?
Israeli has been under the constant threat of biological warfare by it's neighbors for a long time.
* Jews in the professions and academia. There is a large over representation of Jews in the professions, with an achievement quotient of 5.8 for psychiatrists, 4.0 for dentists, 3.8 for mathematicians, 3.7 for doctors, 3.4 for writers, 3.3 for lawyers, and 1.7 for architects. There is a disproportionate number of Jews on elite university faculties with an achievement quotient of 13.3 for law, 12.6 for sociology, 10.4 for economics, 9.6 for physics, 8.9 for political science, 8.1 for history, 7.4 for philosophy, and 7.4 for mathematics.
* Nobel Prize winners. Of the 200 American Nobel Prize winners, 62 (31%) were Jewish. Since Jews constitute about 2% of the American population, they have an achievement quotient of 10. Which is very conservative and not including Jews who were not born in the United States, such as Einstein. Lynn noted that 33% of the Nobel Prize winners in the second half of the twentieth century were Jewish. He said that many Jews arrived in the U.S. during the years 1881 to 1924 and had to earn their livings by skilled manual labor such as tailoring. It took awhile for the Jews to establish themselves and afford good educations for their children.
* Mathematics. The Jewish achievement quotient is 10 for recipients of the annual William Lowell Putnam Competition of the American Mathematical Society. They have an achievement quotient of 16 for recipients of the Fields Medal or Wolf Prize.
* Pulitzer Prizes. Jews have won 52% of the prizes for non-fiction, 15% for fiction, 20% for poetry, and 34% for drama. If we assume 2% of Americans are Jewish, the respective achievement quotients are 26.0, 7.5, 10.0, and 17.0.
* Over representation of students in Ivy League universities. In 1919 the percentage of Jewish students was 20% for Harvard, 13% for Yale, 20% for Brown, 25% for Pennsylvania, and 40% for Columbia. At that time the Ivy League universities began to use various transparent ways to keep their Jewish enrollment down, such as on the basis of last names or by various intangible qualities such as ‘manliness,’ ‘uprightness,’ ‘cleanliness,’ and ‘native refinement.’ In 1957, 23% of Ivy League university students were Jewish.
It should be no surprise regarded high intelligence as a major reason for Jewish achievement.
deflave, get something worthy warmed up. This is pathetic.
SheRoy,
My ability to troll is without peer (Donald Trump excluded) but even I am going to have a hard time trumping your willingness to wager that you are not an AIDS infested lesbian.
The funny thing is that everyone argues about deaths (myself included), but if we think back, the panic was about flattening the curve. In other words, the virus will still run through the population and still kill about as many. It will just be spread over a longer time.
Not a fact at all. Spreading out the numbers does save lives. First the medical facilities will not get swamped giving patients better care with appropriate support. NY was the only place that really got swamped, but that is simply because the plan worked and a few very unexpected things happened.
Second, and huge, is the fact lower numbers of cases and the social distancing reduced the viral load (titer, whatever label you prefer) making each individual's immune system better able to deal with the virus. In swamped areas patients got far heavier infections in far less time making it harder to fight.
Both of these items saved lives. The same number of people may come in contact with the virus but the severity will be reduced.
The unexpected and huge impact of the Isreali protocol of hydrochloroquine and zinc was the real difference. Medical staff started using it early on prophylactically resulting in far fewer of them getting sick. It is remarkable how few of them got sick.
Trump blew it by telling the public too early, before supplies were available, and got the media beating him down. He is now sitting on that nugget, waiting to drop it at an important time. It is the single most important element in the fight.
Now for the important questions about the Isreali research that brought forward the treatment protocol: what led them to the proper treatment so quickly? Obviously they were already doing research and knew about the effect before the pandemic. Did they expect an attack on themselves with some version of coronavirus? Or were they planning to use a coronavirus as a biological weapon and studying effective treatments for their soldiers and citizens?
Back in the '70s there was an outbreak of Eastern Equine Encephalomyelitis and the US military immediately supplied everyone affected with a vaccine. Though they denied planning to use it as a bioweapon it raised questions.
Not a fact at all. Spreading out the numbers does save lives. First the medical facilities will not get swamped giving patients better care with appropriate support. NY was the only place that really got swamped, but that is simply because the plan worked and a few very unexpected things happened.
Second, and huge, is the fact lower numbers of cases and the social distancing reduced the viral load (titer, whatever label you prefer) making each individual's immune system better able to deal with the virus. In swamped areas patients got far heavier infections in far less time making it harder to fight.
Both of these items saved lives. The same number of people may come in contact with the virus but the severity will be reduced.
The unexpected and huge impact of the Isreali protocol of hydrochloroquine and zinc was the real difference. Medical staff started using it early on prophylactically resulting in far fewer of them getting sick. It is remarkable how few of them got sick.
Trump blew it by telling the public too early, before supplies were available, and got the media beating him down. He is now sitting on that nugget, waiting to drop it at an important time. It is the single most important element in the fight.
Now for the important questions about the Isreali research that brought forward the treatment protocol: what led them to the proper treatment so quickly? Obviously they were already doing research and knew about the effect before the pandemic. Did they expect an attack on themselves with some version of coronavirus? Or were they planning to use a coronavirus as a biological weapon and studying effective treatments for their soldiers and citizens?
Back in the '70s there was an outbreak of Eastern Equine Encephalomyelitis and the US military immediately supplied everyone affected with a vaccine. Though they denied planning to use it as a bioweapon it raised questions.
The funny thing is that everyone argues about deaths (myself included), but if we think back, the panic was about flattening the curve. In other words, the virus will still run through the population and still kill about as many. It will just be spread over a longer time.
A fact lost on many
Which fact?
That absent a treatment or vaccine, which we don’t have, the same amount of people will contract the virus and the same amount of people will die.
Not a fact at all. Spreading out the numbers does save lives. First the medical facilities will not get swamped giving patients better care with appropriate support. NY was the only place that really got swamped, but that is simply because the plan worked and a few very unexpected things happened.
Second, and huge, is the fact lower numbers of cases and the social distancing reduced the viral load (titer, whatever label you prefer) making each individual's immune system better able to deal with the virus. In swamped areas patients got far heavier infections in far less time making it harder to fight.
Both of these items saved lives. The same number of people may come in contact with the virus but the severity will be reduced.
The unexpected and huge impact of the Isreali protocol of hydrochloroquine and zinc was the real difference. Medical staff started using it early on prophylactically resulting in far fewer of them getting sick. It is remarkable how few of them got sick.
Trump blew it by telling the public too early, before supplies were available, and got the media beating him down. He is now sitting on that nugget, waiting to drop it at an important time. It is the single most important element in the fight.
Now for the important questions about the Isreali research that brought forward the treatment protocol: what led them to the proper treatment so quickly? Obviously they were already doing research and knew about the effect before the pandemic. Did they expect an attack on themselves with some version of coronavirus? Or were they planning to use a coronavirus as a biological weapon and studying effective treatments for their soldiers and citizens?
Back in the '70s there was an outbreak of Eastern Equine Encephalomyelitis and the US military immediately supplied everyone affected with a vaccine. Though they denied planning to use it as a bioweapon it raised questions.
Good post with several important real facts and not just some widely spread conspiracy theory "facts" . I'm sure most or all of it will fall on a lot of deaf ears, but you can't always lead a horse to water either.
The only conspiracy in all of this is the fact that the libs did indeed try to use it as a weapon against Trump. But that shouldn't surprise anyone either as most of the libs are devout followers of Emanuel and Salinsky in terms of making the most of a crisis for a political gain.
The funny thing is that everyone argues about deaths (myself included), but if we think back, the panic was about flattening the curve. In other words, the virus will still run through the population and still kill about as many. It will just be spread over a longer time.
A fact lost on many
Which fact?
That absent a treatment or vaccine, which we don’t have, the same amount of people will contract the virus and the same amount of people will die.
Not a fact at all. Spreading out the numbers does save lives. First the medical facilities will not get swamped giving patients better care with appropriate support. NY was the only place that really got swamped, but that is simply because the plan worked and a few very unexpected things happened.
Second, and huge, is the fact lower numbers of cases and the social distancing reduced the viral load (titer, whatever label you prefer) making each individual's immune system better able to deal with the virus. In swamped areas patients got far heavier infections in far less time making it harder to fight.
Both of these items saved lives. The same number of people may come in contact with the virus but the severity will be reduced.
The unexpected and huge impact of the Isreali protocol of hydrochloroquine and zinc was the real difference. Medical staff started using it early on prophylactically resulting in far fewer of them getting sick. It is remarkable how few of them got sick.
Trump blew it by telling the public too early, before supplies were available, and got the media beating him down. He is now sitting on that nugget, waiting to drop it at an important time. It is the single most important element in the fight.
Now for the important questions about the Isreali research that brought forward the treatment protocol: what led them to the proper treatment so quickly? Obviously they were already doing research and knew about the effect before the pandemic. Did they expect an attack on themselves with some version of coronavirus? Or were they planning to use a coronavirus as a biological weapon and studying effective treatments for their soldiers and citizens?
Back in the '70s there was an outbreak of Eastern Equine Encephalomyelitis and the US military immediately supplied everyone affected with a vaccine. Though they denied planning to use it as a bioweapon it raised questions.
Good post with several important real facts and not just some widely spread conspiracy theory "facts" . I'm sure most or all of it will fall on a lot of deaf ears, but you can't always lead a horse to water either.
The only conspiracy in all of this is the fact that the libs did indeed try to use it as a weapon against Trump. But that shouldn't surprise anyone either as most of the libs are devout followers of Emanuel and Salinsky in terms of making the most of a crisis for a political gain.
The funny thing is that everyone argues about deaths (myself included), but if we think back, the panic was about flattening the curve. In other words, the virus will still run through the population and still kill about as many. It will just be spread over a longer time.
A fact lost on many
Which fact?
That absent a treatment or vaccine, which we don’t have, the same amount of people will contract the virus and the same amount of people will die.
Not a fact at all. Spreading out the numbers does save lives. First the medical facilities will not get swamped giving patients better care with appropriate support. NY was the only place that really got swamped, but that is simply because the plan worked and a few very unexpected things happened.
Second, and huge, is the fact lower numbers of cases and the social distancing reduced the viral load (titer, whatever label you prefer) making each individual's immune system better able to deal with the virus. In swamped areas patients got far heavier infections in far less time making it harder to fight.
Both of these items saved lives. The same number of people may come in contact with the virus but the severity will be reduced.
The unexpected and huge impact of the Isreali protocol of hydrochloroquine and zinc was the real difference. Medical staff started using it early on prophylactically resulting in far fewer of them getting sick. It is remarkable how few of them got sick.
Trump blew it by telling the public too early, before supplies were available, and got the media beating him down. He is now sitting on that nugget, waiting to drop it at an important time. It is the single most important element in the fight.
Now for the important questions about the Isreali research that brought forward the treatment protocol: what led them to the proper treatment so quickly? Obviously they were already doing research and knew about the effect before the pandemic. Did they expect an attack on themselves with some version of coronavirus? Or were they planning to use a coronavirus as a biological weapon and studying effective treatments for their soldiers and citizens?
Back in the '70s there was an outbreak of Eastern Equine Encephalomyelitis and the US military immediately supplied everyone affected with a vaccine. Though they denied planning to use it as a bioweapon it raised questions.
Good post with several important real facts and not just some widely spread conspiracy theory "facts" . I'm sure most or all of it will fall on a lot of deaf ears, but you can't always lead a horse to water either.
The only conspiracy in all of this is the fact that the libs did indeed try to use it as a weapon against Trump. But that shouldn't surprise anyone either as most of the libs are devout followers of Emanuel and Salinsky in terms of making the most of a crisis for a political gain.
The funny thing is that everyone argues about deaths (myself included), but if we think back, the panic was about flattening the curve. In other words, the virus will still run through the population and still kill about as many. It will just be spread over a longer time.
A fact lost on many
Which fact?
That absent a treatment or vaccine, which we don’t have, the same amount of people will contract the virus and the same amount of people will die.
Not a fact at all. Spreading out the numbers does save lives. First the medical facilities will not get swamped giving patients better care with appropriate support. NY was the only place that really got swamped, but that is simply because the plan worked and a few very unexpected things happened.
Second, and huge, is the fact lower numbers of cases and the social distancing reduced the viral load (titer, whatever label you prefer) making each individual's immune system better able to deal with the virus. In swamped areas patients got far heavier infections in far less time making it harder to fight.
Both of these items saved lives. The same number of people may come in contact with the virus but the severity will be reduced.
The unexpected and huge impact of the Isreali protocol of hydrochloroquine and zinc was the real difference. Medical staff started using it early on prophylactically resulting in far fewer of them getting sick. It is remarkable how few of them got sick.
Trump blew it by telling the public too early, before supplies were available, and got the media beating him down. He is now sitting on that nugget, waiting to drop it at an important time. It is the single most important element in the fight.
Now for the important questions about the Isreali research that brought forward the treatment protocol: what led them to the proper treatment so quickly? Obviously they were already doing research and knew about the effect before the pandemic. Did they expect an attack on themselves with some version of coronavirus? Or were they planning to use a coronavirus as a biological weapon and studying effective treatments for their soldiers and citizens?
Back in the '70s there was an outbreak of Eastern Equine Encephalomyelitis and the US military immediately supplied everyone affected with a vaccine. Though they denied planning to use it as a bioweapon it raised questions.
Sorry. Wrong.
Dr. Wittkowski received his PhD in computer science from the University of Stuttgart and his ScD (Habilitation) in Medical Biometry from the Eberhard-Karls-University Tuüingen, both Germany. He worked for 15 years with Klaus Dietz, a leading epidemiologist who coined the term “reproduction number”, on the Epidemiology of HIV before heading for 20 years the Department of Biostatistics, Epidemiology, and Research Design at The Rockefeller University, New York. He is currently the CEO of ASDERA LLC, a company discovering novel treatments for complex diseases from data of genome-wide association studies.
Another intellectual that resides in a glorified Eskimo village.
Keep typing, genius.
You cannot begin to address anything I stated and you want to call me names? The best you can come up with is playing cheerleader. Sadly the Honeybears must be all you ever had for role models so you keep right on leading cheers for the losers. And doing everyone a serious disservice.
The funny thing is that everyone argues about deaths (myself included), but if we think back, the panic was about flattening the curve. In other words, the virus will still run through the population and still kill about as many. It will just be spread over a longer time.
A fact lost on many
Which fact?
That absent a treatment or vaccine, which we don’t have, the same amount of people will contract the virus and the same amount of people will die.
Not a fact at all. Spreading out the numbers does save lives. First the medical facilities will not get swamped giving patients better care with appropriate support. NY was the only place that really got swamped, but that is simply because the plan worked and a few very unexpected things happened.
Second, and huge, is the fact lower numbers of cases and the social distancing reduced the viral load (titer, whatever label you prefer) making each individual's immune system better able to deal with the virus. In swamped areas patients got far heavier infections in far less time making it harder to fight.
Both of these items saved lives. The same number of people may come in contact with the virus but the severity will be reduced.
The unexpected and huge impact of the Isreali protocol of hydrochloroquine and zinc was the real difference. Medical staff started using it early on prophylactically resulting in far fewer of them getting sick. It is remarkable how few of them got sick.
Trump blew it by telling the public too early, before supplies were available, and got the media beating him down. He is now sitting on that nugget, waiting to drop it at an important time. It is the single most important element in the fight.
Now for the important questions about the Isreali research that brought forward the treatment protocol: what led them to the proper treatment so quickly? Obviously they were already doing research and knew about the effect before the pandemic. Did they expect an attack on themselves with some version of coronavirus? Or were they planning to use a coronavirus as a biological weapon and studying effective treatments for their soldiers and citizens?
Back in the '70s there was an outbreak of Eastern Equine Encephalomyelitis and the US military immediately supplied everyone affected with a vaccine. Though they denied planning to use it as a bioweapon it raised questions.
Sorry. Wrong.
Dr. Wittkowski received his PhD in computer science from the University of Stuttgart and his ScD (Habilitation) in Medical Biometry from the Eberhard-Karls-University Tuüingen, both Germany. He worked for 15 years with Klaus Dietz, a leading epidemiologist who coined the term “reproduction number”, on the Epidemiology of HIV before heading for 20 years the Department of Biostatistics, Epidemiology, and Research Design at The Rockefeller University, New York. He is currently the CEO of ASDERA LLC, a company discovering novel treatments for complex diseases from data of genome-wide association studies.
You cannot begin to address anything I stated and you want to call me names? The best you can come up with is playing cheerleader. Sadly the Honeybears must be all you ever had for role models so you keep right on leading cheers for the losers. And doing everyone a serious disservice.
The funny thing is that everyone argues about deaths (myself included), but if we think back, the panic was about flattening the curve. In other words, the virus will still run through the population and still kill about as many. It will just be spread over a longer time.
A fact lost on many
Which fact?
That absent a treatment or vaccine, which we don’t have, the same amount of people will contract the virus and the same amount of people will die.
Not a fact at all. Spreading out the numbers does save lives. First the medical facilities will not get swamped giving patients better care with appropriate support. NY was the only place that really got swamped, but that is simply because the plan worked and a few very unexpected things happened.
Second, and huge, is the fact lower numbers of cases and the social distancing reduced the viral load (titer, whatever label you prefer) making each individual's immune system better able to deal with the virus. In swamped areas patients got far heavier infections in far less time making it harder to fight.
Both of these items saved lives. The same number of people may come in contact with the virus but the severity will be reduced.
The unexpected and huge impact of the Isreali protocol of hydrochloroquine and zinc was the real difference. Medical staff started using it early on prophylactically resulting in far fewer of them getting sick. It is remarkable how few of them got sick.
Trump blew it by telling the public too early, before supplies were available, and got the media beating him down. He is now sitting on that nugget, waiting to drop it at an important time. It is the single most important element in the fight.
Now for the important questions about the Isreali research that brought forward the treatment protocol: what led them to the proper treatment so quickly? Obviously they were already doing research and knew about the effect before the pandemic. Did they expect an attack on themselves with some version of coronavirus? Or were they planning to use a coronavirus as a biological weapon and studying effective treatments for their soldiers and citizens?
Back in the '70s there was an outbreak of Eastern Equine Encephalomyelitis and the US military immediately supplied everyone affected with a vaccine. Though they denied planning to use it as a bioweapon it raised questions.
Sorry. Wrong.
Dr. Wittkowski received his PhD in computer science from the University of Stuttgart and his ScD (Habilitation) in Medical Biometry from the Eberhard-Karls-University Tuüingen, both Germany. He worked for 15 years with Klaus Dietz, a leading epidemiologist who coined the term “reproduction number”, on the Epidemiology of HIV before heading for 20 years the Department of Biostatistics, Epidemiology, and Research Design at The Rockefeller University, New York. He is currently the CEO of ASDERA LLC, a company discovering novel treatments for complex diseases from data of genome-wide association studies.
Please tell me what I am supposed to catch this time while rereading his comments. he makes lots of points and many are valid and how they intersect with my comments creates room for legitimate debate, but comparing headlines is not compelling.
What points are you trying to argue? He has made many demonstrably false arguments.
You cannot begin to address anything I stated and you want to call me names? The best you can come up with is playing cheerleader. Sadly the Honeybears must be all you ever had for role models so you keep right on leading cheers for the losers. And doing everyone a serious disservice.
Your posts say all that need be heard.
Please continue.
You are not worthy. If you have a point you think I erred on I will try to use smaller words for you. But I am not wasting time for you on argument you will not read and cannot understand.
You are not worthy. If you have a point you think I erred on I will try to use smaller words for you. But I am not wasting time for you on argument you will not read and cannot understand.
Anybody notice that believers of The Corona are always "up here" and everybody else is "down there."
Intellectuals.
LOL
OK I'll bite define believers of the Corona. I believe the Covid 19 virus exists does that make me a believer? Even troll threads need some parameters lets nail it down here.
Dr. Wittkowski received his PhD in computer science from the University of Stuttgart and his ScD (Habilitation) in Medical Biometry from the Eberhard-Karls-University Tuüingen, both Germany. He worked for 15 years with Klaus Dietz, a leading epidemiologist who coined the term “reproduction number”, on the Epidemiology of HIV before heading for 20 years the Department of Biostatistics, Epidemiology, and Research Design at The Rockefeller University, New York. He is currently the CEO of ASDERA LLC, a company discovering novel treatments for complex diseases from data of genome-wide association studies.
How about today? Has kingston been crucified now? I can't keep up. Where was Jim Conrad in all this? What is Stick's stance on all this? Never not funny to watch window lickers licking windows? Is covid just imagination and pretend? Is beyond meat, meat or not? Is Wabigoon raising beyond cows? Has safariman caught the 'vid? Will we lose the huge, naked, black, corona dude forever once this has passed?
The funny thing is that everyone argues about deaths (myself included), but if we think back, the panic was about flattening the curve. In other words, the virus will still run through the population and still kill about as many. It will just be spread over a longer time.
A fact lost on many
Which fact?
That absent a treatment or vaccine, which we don’t have, the same amount of people will contract the virus and the same amount of people will die.
Not a fact at all. Spreading out the numbers does save lives. First the medical facilities will not get swamped giving patients better care with appropriate support. NY was the only place that really got swamped, but that is simply because the plan worked and a few very unexpected things happened.
Second, and huge, is the fact lower numbers of cases and the social distancing reduced the viral load (titer, whatever label you prefer) making each individual's immune system better able to deal with the virus. In swamped areas patients got far heavier infections in far less time making it harder to fight.
Both of these items saved lives. The same number of people may come in contact with the virus but the severity will be reduced.
The unexpected and huge impact of the Isreali protocol of hydrochloroquine and zinc was the real difference. Medical staff started using it early on prophylactically resulting in far fewer of them getting sick. It is remarkable how few of them got sick.
Trump blew it by telling the public too early, before supplies were available, and got the media beating him down. He is now sitting on that nugget, waiting to drop it at an important time. It is the single most important element in the fight.
Now for the important questions about the Isreali research that brought forward the treatment protocol: what led them to the proper treatment so quickly? Obviously they were already doing research and knew about the effect before the pandemic. Did they expect an attack on themselves with some version of coronavirus? Or were they planning to use a coronavirus as a biological weapon and studying effective treatments for their soldiers and citizens?
Back in the '70s there was an outbreak of Eastern Equine Encephalomyelitis and the US military immediately supplied everyone affected with a vaccine. Though they denied planning to use it as a bioweapon it raised questions.
Sorry. Wrong.
Dr. Wittkowski received his PhD in computer science from the University of Stuttgart and his ScD (Habilitation) in Medical Biometry from the Eberhard-Karls-University Tuüingen, both Germany. He worked for 15 years with Klaus Dietz, a leading epidemiologist who coined the term “reproduction number”, on the Epidemiology of HIV before heading for 20 years the Department of Biostatistics, Epidemiology, and Research Design at The Rockefeller University, New York. He is currently the CEO of ASDERA LLC, a company discovering novel treatments for complex diseases from data of genome-wide association studies.
Please tell me what I am supposed to catch this time while rereading his comments. he makes lots of points and many are valid and how they intersect with my comments creates room for legitimate debate, but comparing headlines is not compelling.
What points are you trying to argue? He has made many demonstrably false arguments.
Yep. No experience or credibility whatsoever, True Believer. He should call you for facts. LOL
I now fully understand how the Nigerian scammers continue to make bank on the gullible. A certain percentage will argue that they are legit, even after they were screwed.
I now fully understand how the Nigerian scammers continue to make bank on the gullible. A certain percentage will argue that they are legit, even after they were screwed.
I have some money that needs transferring to the USA and was given your name, specifically, as a contact for the needed help .
The funny thing is that everyone argues about deaths (myself included), but if we think back, the panic was about flattening the curve. In other words, the virus will still run through the population and still kill about as many. It will just be spread over a longer time.
A fact lost on many
Which fact?
That absent a treatment or vaccine, which we don’t have, the same amount of people will contract the virus and the same amount of people will die.
Not a fact at all. Spreading out the numbers does save lives. First the medical facilities will not get swamped giving patients better care with appropriate support. NY was the only place that really got swamped, but that is simply because the plan worked and a few very unexpected things happened.
Second, and huge, is the fact lower numbers of cases and the social distancing reduced the viral load (titer, whatever label you prefer) making each individual's immune system better able to deal with the virus. In swamped areas patients got far heavier infections in far less time making it harder to fight.
Both of these items saved lives. The same number of people may come in contact with the virus but the severity will be reduced.
The unexpected and huge impact of the Isreali protocol of hydrochloroquine and zinc was the real difference. Medical staff started using it early on prophylactically resulting in far fewer of them getting sick. It is remarkable how few of them got sick.
Trump blew it by telling the public too early, before supplies were available, and got the media beating him down. He is now sitting on that nugget, waiting to drop it at an important time. It is the single most important element in the fight.
Now for the important questions about the Isreali research that brought forward the treatment protocol: what led them to the proper treatment so quickly? Obviously they were already doing research and knew about the effect before the pandemic. Did they expect an attack on themselves with some version of coronavirus? Or were they planning to use a coronavirus as a biological weapon and studying effective treatments for their soldiers and citizens?
Back in the '70s there was an outbreak of Eastern Equine Encephalomyelitis and the US military immediately supplied everyone affected with a vaccine. Though they denied planning to use it as a bioweapon it raised questions.
Sorry. Wrong.
Dr. Wittkowski received his PhD in computer science from the University of Stuttgart and his ScD (Habilitation) in Medical Biometry from the Eberhard-Karls-University Tuüingen, both Germany. He worked for 15 years with Klaus Dietz, a leading epidemiologist who coined the term “reproduction number”, on the Epidemiology of HIV before heading for 20 years the Department of Biostatistics, Epidemiology, and Research Design at The Rockefeller University, New York. He is currently the CEO of ASDERA LLC, a company discovering novel treatments for complex diseases from data of genome-wide association studies.
Please tell me what I am supposed to catch this time while rereading his comments. he makes lots of points and many are valid and how they intersect with my comments creates room for legitimate debate, but comparing headlines is not compelling.
What points are you trying to argue? He has made many demonstrably false arguments.
Yep. No experience or credibility whatsoever, True Believer. He should call you for facts. LOL
My facts come from many sources, all of which I can easily cite. Just because he has credentials does not outweigh the opinions of credentialed others, but facts are pesky and he denies many tenets of orthodox opinion in his specialty. I am willing to argue his points but I am not going to toss you a headline and a link and call that a discussion or debate.
I am not going to use the fact he has a minority opinion among his peers, either. But if you have a specific point you want to make based on his actual points I would be happy to explain why I think he is wrong. More to the point why he is using different statistics. And bluntly, no one will really know who is right for a while.
I now fully understand how the Nigerian scammers continue to make bank on the gullible. A certain percentage will argue that they are legit, even after they were screwed.
Are you going to make an actual argument or do you like sitting around pointing fingers and calling a whole bunch of people idiots? Especially when you are obviously incapable of making a cogent argument for their label?
My facts come from many sources, all of which I can easily cite. Just because he has credentials does not outweigh the opinions of credentialed others, but facts are pesky and he denies many tenets of orthodox opinion in his specialty. I am willing to argue his points but I am not going to toss you a headline and a link and call that a discussion or debate.
I am not going to use the fact he has a minority opinion among his peers, either. But if you have a specific point you want to make based on his actual points I would be happy to explain why I think he is wrong. More to the point why he is using different statistics. And bluntly, no one will really know who is right for a while.
Another good post citing actual, and not emotional, facts.
I now fully understand how the Nigerian scammers continue to make bank on the gullible. A certain percentage will argue that they are legit, even after they were screwed.
Are you going to make an actual argument or do you like sitting around pointing fingers and calling a whole bunch of people idiots? Especially when you are obviously incapable of making a cogent argument for their label?
My facts come from many sources, all of which I can easily cite. Just because he has credentials does not outweigh the opinions of credentialed others, but facts are pesky and he denies many tenets of orthodox opinion in his specialty. I am willing to argue his points but I am not going to toss you a headline and a link and call that a discussion or debate.
I am not going to use the fact he has a minority opinion among his peers, either. But if you have a specific point you want to make based on his actual points I would be happy to explain why I think he is wrong. More to the point why he is using different statistics. And bluntly, no one will really know who is right for a while.
Another good post citing actual, and not emotional, facts.
My facts come from many sources, all of which I can easily cite. Just because he has credentials does not outweigh the opinions of credentialed others, but facts are pesky and he denies many tenets of orthodox opinion in his specialty. I am willing to argue his points but I am not going to toss you a headline and a link and call that a discussion or debate.
I am not going to use the fact he has a minority opinion among his peers, either. But if you have a specific point you want to make based on his actual points I would be happy to explain why I think he is wrong. More to the point why he is using different statistics. And bluntly, no one will really know who is right for a while.
Another good post citing actual, and not emotional, facts.
Laughing, name calling, and personal shaming seem to be all that you consistently have for your point of view.
My facts come from many sources, all of which I can easily cite. Just because he has credentials does not outweigh the opinions of credentialed others, but facts are pesky and he denies many tenets of orthodox opinion in his specialty. I am willing to argue his points but I am not going to toss you a headline and a link and call that a discussion or debate.
I am not going to use the fact he has a minority opinion among his peers, either. But if you have a specific point you want to make based on his actual points I would be happy to explain why I think he is wrong. More to the point why he is using different statistics. And bluntly, no one will really know who is right for a while.
Another good post citing actual, and not emotional, facts.
Laughing, name calling, and personal shaming seem to be all that you consistently have for your point of view.
Carry on.
Maybe you could point out one, even fcking one, actual fact in that bullshit post.
My facts come from many sources, all of which I can easily cite. Just because he has credentials does not outweigh the opinions of credentialed others, but facts are pesky and he denies many tenets of orthodox opinion in his specialty. I am willing to argue his points but I am not going to toss you a headline and a link and call that a discussion or debate.
I am not going to use the fact he has a minority opinion among his peers, either. But if you have a specific point you want to make based on his actual points I would be happy to explain why I think he is wrong. More to the point why he is using different statistics. And bluntly, no one will really know who is right for a while.
Another good post citing actual, and not emotional, facts.
And another showing an inability to engage in rational discussion.
My facts come from many sources, all of which I can easily cite. Just because he has credentials does not outweigh the opinions of credentialed others, but facts are pesky and he denies many tenets of orthodox opinion in his specialty. I am willing to argue his points but I am not going to toss you a headline and a link and call that a discussion or debate.
I am not going to use the fact he has a minority opinion among his peers, either. But if you have a specific point you want to make based on his actual points I would be happy to explain why I think he is wrong. More to the point why he is using different statistics. And bluntly, no one will really know who is right for a while.
Another good post citing actual, and not emotional, facts.
And another showing an inability to engage in rational discussion.
LOL
Bullshitters and thieves get a little emotional, when there's no facts.
My facts come from many sources, all of which I can easily cite. Just because he has credentials does not outweigh the opinions of credentialed others, but facts are pesky and he denies many tenets of orthodox opinion in his specialty. I am willing to argue his points but I am not going to toss you a headline and a link and call that a discussion or debate.
I am not going to use the fact he has a minority opinion among his peers, either. But if you have a specific point you want to make based on his actual points I would be happy to explain why I think he is wrong. More to the point why he is using different statistics. And bluntly, no one will really know who is right for a while.
Another good post citing actual, and not emotional, facts.
And another showing an inability to engage in rational discussion.
LOL
Bullshitters and thieves get a little emotional, when there's no facts.
As do fuuuccckkkinn liars such as yourself.
You’ve got nothing on anyone here. If you’ll lie, you’ll steal putting you squarely where you belong.
My facts come from many sources, all of which I can easily cite. Just because he has credentials does not outweigh the opinions of credentialed others, but facts are pesky and he denies many tenets of orthodox opinion in his specialty. I am willing to argue his points but I am not going to toss you a headline and a link and call that a discussion or debate.
I am not going to use the fact he has a minority opinion among his peers, either. But if you have a specific point you want to make based on his actual points I would be happy to explain why I think he is wrong. More to the point why he is using different statistics. And bluntly, no one will really know who is right for a while.
Another good post citing actual, and not emotional, facts.
And another showing an inability to engage in rational discussion.
LOL
Bullshitters and thieves get a little emotional, when there's no facts.
As do fuuuccckkkinn liars such as yourself.
You’ve got nothing on anyone here. If you’ll lie, you’ll steal putting you squarely where you belong.
My facts come from many sources, all of which I can easily cite. Just because he has credentials does not outweigh the opinions of credentialed others, but facts are pesky and he denies many tenets of orthodox opinion in his specialty. I am willing to argue his points but I am not going to toss you a headline and a link and call that a discussion or debate.
I am not going to use the fact he has a minority opinion among his peers, either. But if you have a specific point you want to make based on his actual points I would be happy to explain why I think he is wrong. More to the point why he is using different statistics. And bluntly, no one will really know who is right for a while.
Another good post citing actual, and not emotional, facts.
And another showing an inability to engage in rational discussion.
LOL
Bullshitters and thieves get a little emotional, when there's no facts.
As do fuuuccckkkinn liars such as yourself.
You’ve got nothing on anyone here. If you’ll lie, you’ll steal putting you squarely where you belong.
No facts in that whole bullshit post.
None.
LOL
You wouldn’t make a pimple on a pissant’s ass.
Your lying ass has been outed and you ain’t shaking that one off.
Now for the important questions about the Isreali research that brought forward the treatment protocol: what led them to the proper treatment so quickly? Obviously they were already doing research and knew about the effect before the pandemic. Did they expect an attack on themselves with some version of coronavirus? Or were they planning to use a coronavirus as a biological weapon and studying effective treatments for their soldiers and citizens?
Israeli has been under the constant threat of biological warfare by it's neighbors for a long time.
* Jews in the professions and academia. There is a large over representation of Jews in the professions, with an achievement quotient of 5.8 for psychiatrists, 4.0 for dentists, 3.8 for mathematicians, 3.7 for doctors, 3.4 for writers, 3.3 for lawyers, and 1.7 for architects. There is a disproportionate number of Jews on elite university faculties with an achievement quotient of 13.3 for law, 12.6 for sociology, 10.4 for economics, 9.6 for physics, 8.9 for political science, 8.1 for history, 7.4 for philosophy, and 7.4 for mathematics.
* Nobel Prize winners. Of the 200 American Nobel Prize winners, 62 (31%) were Jewish. Since Jews constitute about 2% of the American population, they have an achievement quotient of 10. Which is very conservative and not including Jews who were not born in the United States, such as Einstein. Lynn noted that 33% of the Nobel Prize winners in the second half of the twentieth century were Jewish. He said that many Jews arrived in the U.S. during the years 1881 to 1924 and had to earn their livings by skilled manual labor such as tailoring. It took awhile for the Jews to establish themselves and afford good educations for their children.
* Mathematics. The Jewish achievement quotient is 10 for recipients of the annual William Lowell Putnam Competition of the American Mathematical Society. They have an achievement quotient of 16 for recipients of the Fields Medal or Wolf Prize.
* Pulitzer Prizes. Jews have won 52% of the prizes for non-fiction, 15% for fiction, 20% for poetry, and 34% for drama. If we assume 2% of Americans are Jewish, the respective achievement quotients are 26.0, 7.5, 10.0, and 17.0.
* Over representation of students in Ivy League universities. In 1919 the percentage of Jewish students was 20% for Harvard, 13% for Yale, 20% for Brown, 25% for Pennsylvania, and 40% for Columbia. At that time the Ivy League universities began to use various transparent ways to keep their Jewish enrollment down, such as on the basis of last names or by various intangible qualities such as ‘manliness,’ ‘uprightness,’ ‘cleanliness,’ and ‘native refinement.’ In 1957, 23% of Ivy League university students were Jewish.
It should be no surprise regarded high intelligence as a major reason for Jewish achievement.
They had been working on a vaccine for a couple of years before the world found out about it.
And you Covtards fit right in with Cumo, Half-Whitmer, Newsome, that bliberal judge in Texas that locked the white girl up, Paddler, Beans, Goosey, Sycamore and every other liberal on the planet.
And you Covtards fit right in with Cumo, Half-Whitmer, Newsome, that bliberal judge in Texas that locked the white girl up, Paddler, Beans, Goosey, Sycamore and every other liberal on the planet.
I figured most of the panic chicken littles were of a subset of the population that the media (those paragons of virtue and truth) told us were in the danger zone. I also figured once it all came out (not all but enough to dispel the bullchit at a minimum) there'd be some crow served up and eaten. Some would take it in good spirits, some would be butt hurt.
Hell no. You guys are still balls deep scared schitless over nothing. Is it pride? Or are you still buying the media's crap? My God this is mind boggling.
Now for the important questions about the Isreali research that brought forward the treatment protocol: what led them to the proper treatment so quickly? Obviously they were already doing research and knew about the effect before the pandemic. Did they expect an attack on themselves with some version of coronavirus? Or were they planning to use a coronavirus as a biological weapon and studying effective treatments for their soldiers and citizens?
Israeli has been under the constant threat of biological warfare by it's neighbors for a long time.
* Jews in the professions and academia. There is a large over representation of Jews in the professions, with an achievement quotient of 5.8 for psychiatrists, 4.0 for dentists, 3.8 for mathematicians, 3.7 for doctors, 3.4 for writers, 3.3 for lawyers, and 1.7 for architects. There is a disproportionate number of Jews on elite university faculties with an achievement quotient of 13.3 for law, 12.6 for sociology, 10.4 for economics, 9.6 for physics, 8.9 for political science, 8.1 for history, 7.4 for philosophy, and 7.4 for mathematics.
* Nobel Prize winners. Of the 200 American Nobel Prize winners, 62 (31%) were Jewish. Since Jews constitute about 2% of the American population, they have an achievement quotient of 10. Which is very conservative and not including Jews who were not born in the United States, such as Einstein. Lynn noted that 33% of the Nobel Prize winners in the second half of the twentieth century were Jewish. He said that many Jews arrived in the U.S. during the years 1881 to 1924 and had to earn their livings by skilled manual labor such as tailoring. It took awhile for the Jews to establish themselves and afford good educations for their children.
* Mathematics. The Jewish achievement quotient is 10 for recipients of the annual William Lowell Putnam Competition of the American Mathematical Society. They have an achievement quotient of 16 for recipients of the Fields Medal or Wolf Prize.
* Pulitzer Prizes. Jews have won 52% of the prizes for non-fiction, 15% for fiction, 20% for poetry, and 34% for drama. If we assume 2% of Americans are Jewish, the respective achievement quotients are 26.0, 7.5, 10.0, and 17.0.
* Over representation of students in Ivy League universities. In 1919 the percentage of Jewish students was 20% for Harvard, 13% for Yale, 20% for Brown, 25% for Pennsylvania, and 40% for Columbia. At that time the Ivy League universities began to use various transparent ways to keep their Jewish enrollment down, such as on the basis of last names or by various intangible qualities such as ‘manliness,’ ‘uprightness,’ ‘cleanliness,’ and ‘native refinement.’ In 1957, 23% of Ivy League university students were Jewish.
It should be no surprise regarded high intelligence as a major reason for Jewish achievement.
They had been working on a vaccine for a couple of years before the world found out about it.
Nope...
The Covid-19 showed up in 2019 as a novel virus. Impossible to make a vaccine for a virus that does not yet exist.
I figured most of the panic chicken littles were of a subset of the population that the media (those paragons of virtue and truth) told us were in the danger zone. I also figured once it all came out (not all but enough to dispel the bullchit at a minimum) there'd be some crow served up and eaten. Some would take it in good spirits, some would be butt hurt.
Hell no. You guys are still balls deep scared schitless over nothing. Is it pride? Or are you still buying the media's crap? My God this is mind boggling.
Apparently it doesn’t take much to boggle your mind. Terrible thing to waste.
I now fully understand how the Nigerian scammers continue to make bank on the gullible. A certain percentage will argue that they are legit, even after they were screwed.
Are you going to make an actual argument or do you like sitting around pointing fingers and calling a whole bunch of people idiots? Especially when you are obviously incapable of making a cogent argument for their label?
Waste of time and energy. Think Global Warming. The sad part? I really don't like arguing with gun guys who I would likely get along fine with on most every other issue.
And you Covtards fit right in with Cumo, Half-Whitmer, Newsome, that bliberal judge in Texas that locked the white girl up, Paddler, Beans, Goosey, Sycamore and every other liberal on the planet.
Those are your people.
You’re digging deep. But You’ve failed to notice that it’s your hole.
Stick around, Sheriff Flavo will be around to support you for your loyalty. He’s busy bailing water out of the USS Flavo for the time being
You [bleep] suckers might as well vote dem next election. Holy phugg. Since you use your .gov issued spoon and eat the [bleep] straight out of the MSM's bung hole.
I figured most of the panic chicken littles were of a subset of the population that the media (those paragons of virtue and truth) told us were in the danger zone. I also figured once it all came out (not all but enough to dispel the bullchit at a minimum) there'd be some crow served up and eaten. Some would take it in good spirits, some would be butt hurt.
Hell no. You guys are still balls deep scared schitless over nothing. Is it pride? Or are you still buying the media's crap? My God this is mind boggling.
BGG,
I have given up.
For my penance I offer................
Pole vaulting
PEACE THROUGH ATHLETICS AND SPORT!!
Geno
PS I loves me some cheeks. Might be my favorite thing on God's green earth.
You [bleep] suckers might as well vote dem next election. Holy phugg. Since you use your .gov issued spoon and eat the [bleep] straight out of the MSM's bung hole.
Actually, we are one and the brotherhood is well intact. Just a little rough sledding at the moment.
I figured most of the panic chicken littles were of a subset of the population that the media (those paragons of virtue and truth) told us were in the danger zone. I also figured once it all came out (not all but enough to dispel the bullchit at a minimum) there'd be some crow served up and eaten. Some would take it in good spirits, some would be butt hurt.
Hell no. You guys are still balls deep scared schitless over nothing. Is it pride? Or are you still buying the media's crap? My God this is mind boggling.
I know quite a few around here. It’s very hard for some - especially the know it all types - to admit they were taken to the cleaners hook, line and sinker. . .
I figured most of the panic chicken littles were of a subset of the population that the media (those paragons of virtue and truth) told us were in the danger zone. I also figured once it all came out (not all but enough to dispel the bullchit at a minimum) there'd be some crow served up and eaten. Some would take it in good spirits, some would be butt hurt.
Hell no. You guys are still balls deep scared schitless over nothing. Is it pride? Or are you still buying the media's crap? My God this is mind boggling.
I know quite a few around here. It’s very hard for some - especially the know it all types - to admit they were taken to the cleaners hook, line and sinker. . .
Yes, yes. The know it all types The statisticians and epidemiologist among us. So many.
Then there’s the posse. The name callers who don’t like it when it’s returned in kind.
Yeah the know it all types. I know quite a few too. Glad you brought it up.
Fixed it for you Jim. (after all, I can't see cheeks if I'm visiting Roy and the crowd)
That duck tape is invaluable stuff around the fram/ranch. I can see your reluctance to use it on the winders. Might have to make a run to a populated place to get more and risk even more exposure to The Corona.
You [bleep] suckers might as well vote dem next election. Holy phugg. Since you use your .gov issued spoon and eat the [bleep] straight out of the MSM's bung hole.
Originally Posted by Fubarski
And you Covtards fit right in with Cumo, Half-Whitmer, Newsome, that bliberal judge in Texas that locked the white girl up, Paddler, Beans, Goosey, Sycamore and every other liberal on the planet.
Those are your people.
Great posts, men.
I wondered how long it would be before some of you corona experts unleashed the "You're a liberal argument" in lieu of not having any other rational to you non-emotional argument.
I figured most of the panic chicken littles were of a subset of the population that the media (those paragons of virtue and truth) told us were in the danger zone. I also figured once it all came out (not all but enough to dispel the bullchit at a minimum) there'd be some crow served up and eaten. Some would take it in good spirits, some would be butt hurt.
Hell no. You guys are still balls deep scared schitless over nothing. Is it pride? Or are you still buying the media's crap? My God this is mind boggling.
I know quite a few around here. It’s very hard for some - especially the know it all types - to admit they were taken to the cleaners hook, line and sinker. . .
I understand the getting sucked in by the pandering. They played a sweet fiddle song. I (wrongly obviously) figured it was like the painted whores flashing saggy chichis and worn smooth slits trying to distract a happily married man. Some would fall prey, but most to point and laugh. Unfortunately, a large portion of the population now has the clap.
A guy could go to the doc, tell him what happened and after a dose of antibiotics be ok this time. But realize you're playing with fire and next time it might not be curable.
[bleep] now. we've got full on syphilitic psychosis going on now.
And you Covtards fit right in with Cumo, Half-Whitmer, Newsome, that bliberal judge in Texas that locked the white girl up, Paddler, Beans, Goosey, Sycamore and every other liberal on the planet.
Those are your people.
Great post, Fubar.
I wondered how long it would be before one of you Corona experts unleashed the "You're a liberal argument" in lieu of not having any other rational to you non-emotional argument.
I figured most of the panic chicken littles were of a subset of the population that the media (those paragons of virtue and truth) told us were in the danger zone. I also figured once it all came out (not all but enough to dispel the bullchit at a minimum) there'd be some crow served up and eaten. Some would take it in good spirits, some would be butt hurt.
Hell no. You guys are still balls deep scared schitless over nothing. Is it pride? Or are you still buying the media's crap? My God this is mind boggling.
BGG,
I have given up.
For my penance I offer................
Pole vaulting
PEACE THROUGH ATHLETICS AND SPORT!!
Geno
PS I loves me some cheeks. Might be my favorite thing on God's green earth.
I figured most of the panic chicken littles were of a subset of the population that the media (those paragons of virtue and truth) told us were in the danger zone. I also figured once it all came out (not all but enough to dispel the bullchit at a minimum) there'd be some crow served up and eaten. Some would take it in good spirits, some would be butt hurt.
Hell no. You guys are still balls deep scared schitless over nothing. Is it pride? Or are you still buying the media's crap? My God this is mind boggling.
I know quite a few around here. It’s very hard for some - especially the know it all types - to admit they were taken to the cleaners hook, line and sinker. . .
Yes, yes. The know it all types The statisticians and epidemiologist among us. So many.
Then there’s the posse. The name callers who don’t like it when it’s returned in kind.
Yeah the know it all types. I know quite a few too. Glad you brought it up.
Man, keep it up. Maybe you’ll convince yourself that you're actually gaining any headway into convincing someone else you haven’t made an idiot out of yourself by believing this schit to this point.
I mean you haven’t. If anything, now you’re coming off even more shrill, desperate and boring, but it’ll give you something to do so you don’t have to confront the reality that you’re a gullible dumbass.
I figured most of the panic chicken littles were of a subset of the population that the media (those paragons of virtue and truth) told us were in the danger zone. I also figured once it all came out (not all but enough to dispel the bullchit at a minimum) there'd be some crow served up and eaten. Some would take it in good spirits, some would be butt hurt.
Hell no. You guys are still balls deep scared schitless over nothing. Is it pride? Or are you still buying the media's crap? My God this is mind boggling.
I know quite a few around here. It’s very hard for some - especially the know it all types - to admit they were taken to the cleaners hook, line and sinker. . .
I understand the getting sucked in by the pandering. They played a sweet fiddle song. I (wrongly obviously) figured it was like the painted whores flashing saggy chichis and worn smooth slits trying to distract a happily married man. Some would fall prey, but most to point and laugh. Unfortunately, a large portion of the population now has the clap.
A guy could go to the doc, tell him what happened and after a dose of antibiotics be ok this time. But realize you're playing with fire and next time it might not be curable.
[bleep] now. we've got full on syphilitic psychosis going on now.
Obama, Clinton, and their ilk are very happy now.
Congrats to the retards. I hope they enjoy hell.
You can relate to the ‘down there ‘ crowd very well and completely so.
You may need to go back several pages for that if you missed it.
I figured most of the panic chicken littles were of a subset of the population that the media (those paragons of virtue and truth) told us were in the danger zone. I also figured once it all came out (not all but enough to dispel the bullchit at a minimum) there'd be some crow served up and eaten. Some would take it in good spirits, some would be butt hurt.
Hell no. You guys are still balls deep scared schitless over nothing. Is it pride? Or are you still buying the media's crap? My God this is mind boggling.
I'm so scared that I went bass fishing this AM and then I went to a public shooting range after lunch. (After a stop at a gun shop to see how business was going). There were other people at the range too, but we all cowered under shooting benches (all at least 6 feet apart at all times :D). Finally when no one was looking I grabbed my shooting stuff and I sprinted for my truck and safety.....!!
I may spend tomorrow looking out of my house at window sill level where I'll be safe. Two days in a row is too much for the faint at heart.
I figured most of the panic chicken littles were of a subset of the population that the media (those paragons of virtue and truth) told us were in the danger zone. I also figured once it all came out (not all but enough to dispel the bullchit at a minimum) there'd be some crow served up and eaten. Some would take it in good spirits, some would be butt hurt.
Hell no. You guys are still balls deep scared schitless over nothing. Is it pride? Or are you still buying the media's crap? My God this is mind boggling.
BGG,
I have given up.
For my penance I offer................
Pole vaulting
PEACE THROUGH ATHLETICS AND SPORT!!
Geno
PS I loves me some cheeks. Might be my favorite thing on God's green earth.
mmmmmmmmmmmm
Before I die, I would just like to be granted one more feel of cheeks like those on #68 there.
Right before I fly up into heaven to ol' John Prine................and Roy..........................Jimi too.
And you Covtards fit right in with Cumo, Half-Whitmer, Newsome, that bliberal judge in Texas that locked the white girl up, Paddler, Beans, Goosey, Sycamore and every other liberal on the planet.
Those are your people.
Great post, Fubar.
I wondered how long it would be before one of you Corona experts unleashed the "You're a liberal argument" in lieu of not having any other rational to you non-emotional argument.
Those are the people that agree with you.
And, that's OK with you.
Originally Posted by Dryfly24
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by Dryfly24
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
This is amazing.
I figured most of the panic chicken littles were of a subset of the population that the media (those paragons of virtue and truth) told us were in the danger zone. I also figured once it all came out (not all but enough to dispel the bullchit at a minimum) there'd be some crow served up and eaten. Some would take it in good spirits, some would be butt hurt.
Hell no. You guys are still balls deep scared schitless over nothing. Is it pride? Or are you still buying the media's crap? My God this is mind boggling.
I know quite a few around here. It’s very hard for some - especially the know it all types - to admit they were taken to the cleaners hook, line and sinker. . .
Yes, yes. The know it all types The statisticians and epidemiologist among us. So many.
Then there’s the posse. The name callers who don’t like it when it’s returned in kind.
Yeah the know it all types. I know quite a few too. Glad you brought it up.
Man, keep it up. Maybe you’ll convince yourself that you're actually gaining any headway into convincing someone else you haven’t made an idiot out of yourself by believing this schit to this point.
I mean you haven’t. If anything, now you’re coming off even more shrill, desperate and boring, but it’ll give you something to do so you don’t have to confront the reality that you’re a gullible dumbass.
I’m not trying to convince anyone, dipscchitt. And you have exactly no idea of what you’re talking about, just more posse style hot air and name calling.
It took only a short while to get you out of the woodwork with the rest of the roaches .
Your daddy, Flavo the magnificent will be along to console your distraught azz.
Now, if I’m truly boring to you, just stfu and slither off. It’s that easy. No harm, no foul.
And you Covtards fit right in with Cumo, Half-Whitmer, Newsome, that bliberal judge in Texas that locked the white girl up, Paddler, Beans, Goosey, Sycamore and every other liberal on the planet.
Those are your people.
Great post, Fubar.
I wondered how long it would be before one of you Corona experts unleashed the "You're a liberal argument" in lieu of not having any other rational to you non-emotional argument.
Those are the people that agree with you.
And, that's OK with you.
Originally Posted by Dryfly24
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by Dryfly24
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
This is amazing.
I figured most of the panic chicken littles were of a subset of the population that the media (those paragons of virtue and truth) told us were in the danger zone. I also figured once it all came out (not all but enough to dispel the bullchit at a minimum) there'd be some crow served up and eaten. Some would take it in good spirits, some would be butt hurt.
Hell no. You guys are still balls deep scared schitless over nothing. Is it pride? Or are you still buying the media's crap? My God this is mind boggling.
I know quite a few around here. It’s very hard for some - especially the know it all types - to admit they were taken to the cleaners hook, line and sinker. . .
Yes, yes. The know it all types The statisticians and epidemiologist among us. So many.
Then there’s the posse. The name callers who don’t like it when it’s returned in kind.
Yeah the know it all types. I know quite a few too. Glad you brought it up.
Man, keep it up. Maybe you’ll convince yourself that you're actually gaining any headway into convincing someone else you haven’t made an idiot out of yourself by believing this schit to this point.
I mean you haven’t. If anything, now you’re coming off even more shrill, desperate and boring, but it’ll give you something to do so you don’t have to confront the reality that you’re a gullible dumbass.
I’m not trying to convince anyone, dipscchitt. And you have exactly no idea of what you’re talking about, just more posse style hot air and name calling.
It took only a short while to get you out of the woodwork with the rest of the roaches .
Your daddy, Flavo the magnificent will be along to console your distraught azz.
Now, if I’m truly boring to you, just stfu and slither off. It’s that easy. No harm, no foul.
Are we good now,,,,,,pardner?
Hope so .
Damn Toot, you are getting ornery! It’s alright, I like you anyway...
And you Covtards fit right in with Cumo, Half-Whitmer, Newsome, that bliberal judge in Texas that locked the white girl up, Paddler, Beans, Goosey, Sycamore and every other liberal on the planet.
Those are your people.
Great post, Fubar.
I wondered how long it would be before one of you Corona experts unleashed the "You're a liberal argument" in lieu of not having any other rational to you non-emotional argument.
Those are the people that agree with you.
And, that's OK with you.
Originally Posted by Dryfly24
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by Dryfly24
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
This is amazing.
I figured most of the panic chicken littles were of a subset of the population that the media (those paragons of virtue and truth) told us were in the danger zone. I also figured once it all came out (not all but enough to dispel the bullchit at a minimum) there'd be some crow served up and eaten. Some would take it in good spirits, some would be butt hurt.
Hell no. You guys are still balls deep scared schitless over nothing. Is it pride? Or are you still buying the media's crap? My God this is mind boggling.
I know quite a few around here. It’s very hard for some - especially the know it all types - to admit they were taken to the cleaners hook, line and sinker. . .
Yes, yes. The know it all types The statisticians and epidemiologist among us. So many.
Then there’s the posse. The name callers who don’t like it when it’s returned in kind.
Yeah the know it all types. I know quite a few too. Glad you brought it up.
Man, keep it up. Maybe you’ll convince yourself that you're actually gaining any headway into convincing someone else you haven’t made an idiot out of yourself by believing this schit to this point.
I mean you haven’t. If anything, now you’re coming off even more shrill, desperate and boring, but it’ll give you something to do so you don’t have to confront the reality that you’re a gullible dumbass.
I’m not trying to convince anyone, dipscchitt. And you have exactly no idea of what you’re talking about, just more posse style hot air and name calling.
It took only a short while to get you out of the woodwork with the rest of the roaches .
Your daddy, Flavo the magnificent will be along to console your distraught azz.
Now, if I’m truly boring to you, just stfu and slither off. It’s that easy. No harm, no foul.
Are we good now,,,,,,pardner?
Hope so .
Damn Toot, you are getting ornery! It’s alright, I like you anyway...
I figured most of the panic chicken littles were of a subset of the population that the media (those paragons of virtue and truth) told us were in the danger zone. I also figured once it all came out (not all but enough to dispel the bullchit at a minimum) there'd be some crow served up and eaten. Some would take it in good spirits, some would be butt hurt.
Hell no. You guys are still balls deep scared schitless over nothing. Is it pride? Or are you still buying the media's crap? My God this is mind boggling.
I know quite a few around here. It’s very hard for some - especially the know it all types - to admit they were taken to the cleaners hook, line and sinker. . .
I understand the getting sucked in by the pandering. They played a sweet fiddle song. I (wrongly obviously) figured it was like the painted whores flashing saggy chichis and worn smooth slits trying to distract a happily married man. Some would fall prey, but most to point and laugh. Unfortunately, a large portion of the population now has the clap.
A guy could go to the doc, tell him what happened and after a dose of antibiotics be ok this time. But realize you're playing with fire and next time it might not be curable.
[bleep] now. we've got full on syphilitic psychosis going on now.
Obama, Clinton, and their ilk are very happy now.
Congrats to the retards. I hope they enjoy hell.
You can relate to the ‘down there ‘ crowd very well and completely so.
You may need to go back several pages for that if you missed it.
I figured most of the panic chicken littles were of a subset of the population that the media (those paragons of virtue and truth) told us were in the danger zone. I also figured once it all came out (not all but enough to dispel the bullchit at a minimum) there'd be some crow served up and eaten. Some would take it in good spirits, some would be butt hurt.
Hell no. You guys are still balls deep scared schitless over nothing. Is it pride? Or are you still buying the media's crap? My God this is mind boggling.
I know quite a few around here. It’s very hard for some - especially the know it all types - to admit they were taken to the cleaners hook, line and sinker. . .
Yes, yes. The know it all types The statisticians and epidemiologist among us. So many.
Then there’s the posse. The name callers who don’t like it when it’s returned in kind.
Yeah the know it all types. I know quite a few too. Glad you brought it up.
Man, keep it up. Maybe you’ll convince yourself that you're actually gaining any headway into convincing someone else you haven’t made an idiot out of yourself by believing this schit to this point.
I mean you haven’t. If anything, now you’re coming off even more shrill, desperate and boring, but it’ll give you something to do so you don’t have to confront the reality that you’re a gullible dumbass.
Its good to see the Montana Fly Man back trying to win friends with the cool crowd. Don't worry. Pretty soon at least one of them will notice you, and then you'll be with the in crowd .
What are you dudes so scared about when someone doesn't agree with ya'll???? Trump had no choice but to do what he did by shutting the country down when he did. He was damned if he did and damned if he didn't at the time. I have faith he'll get the country going again, but saying this is no worse than the cold and flu season is obviously not medically correct if you look beyond your own emotions about the subject.
Carry on. I'm sure you'll have a totally clever to you retort.
And you Covtards fit right in with Cumo, Half-Whitmer, Newsome, that bliberal judge in Texas that locked the white girl up, Paddler, Beans, Goosey, Sycamore and every other liberal on the planet.
Those are your people.
Great post, Fubar.
I wondered how long it would be before one of you Corona experts unleashed the "You're a liberal argument" in lieu of not having any other rational to you non-emotional argument.
Those are the people that agree with you.
And, that's OK with you.
Originally Posted by Dryfly24
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by Dryfly24
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
This is amazing.
I figured most of the panic chicken littles were of a subset of the population that the media (those paragons of virtue and truth) told us were in the danger zone. I also figured once it all came out (not all but enough to dispel the bullchit at a minimum) there'd be some crow served up and eaten. Some would take it in good spirits, some would be butt hurt.
Hell no. You guys are still balls deep scared schitless over nothing. Is it pride? Or are you still buying the media's crap? My God this is mind boggling.
I know quite a few around here. It’s very hard for some - especially the know it all types - to admit they were taken to the cleaners hook, line and sinker. . .
Yes, yes. The know it all types The statisticians and epidemiologist among us. So many.
Then there’s the posse. The name callers who don’t like it when it’s returned in kind.
Yeah the know it all types. I know quite a few too. Glad you brought it up.
Man, keep it up. Maybe you’ll convince yourself that you're actually gaining any headway into convincing someone else you haven’t made an idiot out of yourself by believing this schit to this point.
I mean you haven’t. If anything, now you’re coming off even more shrill, desperate and boring, but it’ll give you something to do so you don’t have to confront the reality that you’re a gullible dumbass.
I’m not trying to convince anyone, dipscchitt. And you have exactly no idea of what you’re talking about, just more posse style hot air and name calling.
It took only a short while to get you out of the woodwork with the rest of the roaches .
Your daddy, Flavo the magnificent will be along to console your distraught azz.
Now, if I’m truly boring to you, just stfu and slither off. It’s that easy. No harm, no foul.
Are we good now,,,,,,pardner?
Hope so .
Damn Toot, you are getting ornery! It’s alright, I like you anyway...
We’re good. Just clearing the air.
In all seriousness, it’s a bunch of [bleep]. Just look how it’s breaking down into red and blue.I called this schit weeks ago and trust me I’m no rocket surgeon.
These blue states want to take a stick to the economy like a bunch of Mexican kids to a piñata. That’s what it’s really about. It’ll all come out eventually. Watch...
I figured most of the panic chicken littles were of a subset of the population that the media (those paragons of virtue and truth) told us were in the danger zone. I also figured once it all came out (not all but enough to dispel the bullchit at a minimum) there'd be some crow served up and eaten. Some would take it in good spirits, some would be butt hurt.
Hell no. You guys are still balls deep scared schitless over nothing. Is it pride? Or are you still buying the media's crap? My God this is mind boggling.
I know quite a few around here. It’s very hard for some - especially the know it all types - to admit they were taken to the cleaners hook, line and sinker. . .
Yes, yes. The know it all types The statisticians and epidemiologist among us. So many.
Then there’s the posse. The name callers who don’t like it when it’s returned in kind.
Yeah the know it all types. I know quite a few too. Glad you brought it up.
Man, keep it up. Maybe you’ll convince yourself that you're actually gaining any headway into convincing someone else you haven’t made an idiot out of yourself by believing this schit to this point.
I mean you haven’t. If anything, now you’re coming off even more shrill, desperate and boring, but it’ll give you something to do so you don’t have to confront the reality that you’re a gullible dumbass.
Its good to see the Montana Fly Man back trying to win friends with the cool crowd. Don't worry. Pretty soon at least one of them will notice you, and then you'll be with the in crowd .
What are you dudes so scared about when someone doesn't agree with ya'll???? Trump had no choice but to do what he did by shutting the country down when he did. He was damned if he did and damned if he didn't at the time. I have faith he'll get the country going again, but saying this is no worse than the cold and flu season is obviously not medically correct if you look beyond your own emotions about the subject.
Carry on. I'm sure you'll have a totally clever to you retort.
LMFAO, You always post dumbs Schit assumptions like that about people you know nothing about? Whatever floats your boat...
At any rate. I compared the number of Covid deaths (supposedly) in my own state to the number Of flu deaths in past years. Want to take a wild guess what the numbers were?
I figured most of the panic chicken littles were of a subset of the population that the media (those paragons of virtue and truth) told us were in the danger zone. I also figured once it all came out (not all but enough to dispel the bullchit at a minimum) there'd be some crow served up and eaten. Some would take it in good spirits, some would be butt hurt.
Hell no. You guys are still balls deep scared schitless over nothing. Is it pride? Or are you still buying the media's crap? My God this is mind boggling.
I know quite a few around here. It’s very hard for some - especially the know it all types - to admit they were taken to the cleaners hook, line and sinker. . .
I understand the getting sucked in by the pandering. They played a sweet fiddle song. I (wrongly obviously) figured it was like the painted whores flashing saggy chichis and worn smooth slits trying to distract a happily married man. Some would fall prey, but most to point and laugh. Unfortunately, a large portion of the population now has the clap.
A guy could go to the doc, tell him what happened and after a dose of antibiotics be ok this time. But realize you're playing with fire and next time it might not be curable.
[bleep] now. we've got full on syphilitic psychosis going on now.
Obama, Clinton, and their ilk are very happy now.
Congrats to the retards. I hope they enjoy hell.
You can relate to the ‘down there ‘ crowd very well and completely so.
You may need to go back several pages for that if you missed it.
Was my metaphor too complicated?
Billy Goat,
Please. Metaphor?
Crikey mate...................Our friend the 'flave can't hardly deal with "efficacy".
I figured most of the panic chicken littles were of a subset of the population that the media (those paragons of virtue and truth) told us were in the danger zone. I also figured once it all came out (not all but enough to dispel the bullchit at a minimum) there'd be some crow served up and eaten. Some would take it in good spirits, some would be butt hurt.
Hell no. You guys are still balls deep scared schitless over nothing. Is it pride? Or are you still buying the media's crap? My God this is mind boggling.
I know quite a few around here. It’s very hard for some - especially the know it all types - to admit they were taken to the cleaners hook, line and sinker. . .
Yes, yes. The know it all types The statisticians and epidemiologist among us. So many.
Then there’s the posse. The name callers who don’t like it when it’s returned in kind.
Yeah the know it all types. I know quite a few too. Glad you brought it up.
Man, keep it up. Maybe you’ll convince yourself that you're actually gaining any headway into convincing someone else you haven’t made an idiot out of yourself by believing this schit to this point.
I mean you haven’t. If anything, now you’re coming off even more shrill, desperate and boring, but it’ll give you something to do so you don’t have to confront the reality that you’re a gullible dumbass.
Its good to see the Montana Fly Man back trying to win friends with the cool crowd. Don't worry. Pretty soon at least one of them will notice you, and then you'll be with the in crowd .
What are you dudes so scared about when someone doesn't agree with ya'll???? Trump had no choice but to do what he did by shutting the country down when he did. He was damned if he did and damned if he didn't at the time. I have faith he'll get the country going again, but saying this is no worse than the cold and flu season is obviously not medically correct if you look beyond your own emotions about the subject.
Carry on. I'm sure you'll have a totally clever to you retort.
LMFAO, You always post dumbs Schit assumptions like that about people you know nothing about? Whatever floats your boat...
At any rate. I compared the number of Covid deaths (supposedly) in my own state to the number Of flu deaths in past years. Want to take a wild guess what the numbers were?
What's up? I didn't expect to strike so close to home that you'd get triggered once again. Damn, man. Chill out if you can.
I figured most of the panic chicken littles were of a subset of the population that the media (those paragons of virtue and truth) told us were in the danger zone. I also figured once it all came out (not all but enough to dispel the bullchit at a minimum) there'd be some crow served up and eaten. Some would take it in good spirits, some would be butt hurt.
Hell no. You guys are still balls deep scared schitless over nothing. Is it pride? Or are you still buying the media's crap? My God this is mind boggling.
I know quite a few around here. It’s very hard for some - especially the know it all types - to admit they were taken to the cleaners hook, line and sinker. . .
I understand the getting sucked in by the pandering. They played a sweet fiddle song. I (wrongly obviously) figured it was like the painted whores flashing saggy chichis and worn smooth slits trying to distract a happily married man. Some would fall prey, but most to point and laugh. Unfortunately, a large portion of the population now has the clap.
A guy could go to the doc, tell him what happened and after a dose of antibiotics be ok this time. But realize you're playing with fire and next time it might not be curable.
[bleep] now. we've got full on syphilitic psychosis going on now.
Obama, Clinton, and their ilk are very happy now.
Congrats to the retards. I hope they enjoy hell.
You can relate to the ‘down there ‘ crowd very well and completely so.
You may need to go back several pages for that if you missed it.
Was my metaphor too complicated?
Dude. "metaphor" is too complicated for this place.
I figured most of the panic chicken littles were of a subset of the population that the media (those paragons of virtue and truth) told us were in the danger zone. I also figured once it all came out (not all but enough to dispel the bullchit at a minimum) there'd be some crow served up and eaten. Some would take it in good spirits, some would be butt hurt.
Hell no. You guys are still balls deep scared schitless over nothing. Is it pride? Or are you still buying the media's crap? My God this is mind boggling.
I know quite a few around here. It’s very hard for some - especially the know it all types - to admit they were taken to the cleaners hook, line and sinker. . .
I understand the getting sucked in by the pandering. They played a sweet fiddle song. I (wrongly obviously) figured it was like the painted whores flashing saggy chichis and worn smooth slits trying to distract a happily married man. Some would fall prey, but most to point and laugh. Unfortunately, a large portion of the population now has the clap.
A guy could go to the doc, tell him what happened and after a dose of antibiotics be ok this time. But realize you're playing with fire and next time it might not be curable.
[bleep] now. we've got full on syphilitic psychosis going on now.
Obama, Clinton, and their ilk are very happy now.
Congrats to the retards. I hope they enjoy hell.
You can relate to the ‘down there ‘ crowd very well and completely so.
You may need to go back several pages for that if you missed it.
Was my metaphor too complicated?
Dude. "metaphor" is too complicated for this place.
I now fully understand how the Nigerian scammers continue to make bank on the gullible. A certain percentage will argue that they are legit, even after they were screwed.
Are you going to make an actual argument or do you like sitting around pointing fingers and calling a whole bunch of people idiots? Especially when you are obviously incapable of making a cogent argument for their label?
Waste of time and energy. Think Global Warming. The sad part? I really don't like arguing with gun guys who I would likely get along fine with on most every other issue.
Remember, you are the one calling people idiots and failing to give a specific argument why. So why should anyone be nice to you?
I figured most of the panic chicken littles were of a subset of the population that the media (those paragons of virtue and truth) told us were in the danger zone. I also figured once it all came out (not all but enough to dispel the bullchit at a minimum) there'd be some crow served up and eaten. Some would take it in good spirits, some would be butt hurt.
Hell no. You guys are still balls deep scared schitless over nothing. Is it pride? Or are you still buying the media's crap? My God this is mind boggling.
I know quite a few around here. It’s very hard for some - especially the know it all types - to admit they were taken to the cleaners hook, line and sinker. . .
Yes, yes. The know it all types The statisticians and epidemiologist among us. So many.
Then there’s the posse. The name callers who don’t like it when it’s returned in kind.
Yeah the know it all types. I know quite a few too. Glad you brought it up.
Man, keep it up. Maybe you’ll convince yourself that you're actually gaining any headway into convincing someone else you haven’t made an idiot out of yourself by believing this schit to this point.
I mean you haven’t. If anything, now you’re coming off even more shrill, desperate and boring, but it’ll give you something to do so you don’t have to confront the reality that you’re a gullible dumbass.
Its good to see the Montana Fly Man back trying to win friends with the cool crowd. Don't worry. Pretty soon at least one of them will notice you, and then you'll be with the in crowd .
What are you dudes so scared about when someone doesn't agree with ya'll???? Trump had no choice but to do what he did by shutting the country down when he did. He was damned if he did and damned if he didn't at the time. I have faith he'll get the country going again, but saying this is no worse than the cold and flu season is obviously not medically correct if you look beyond your own emotions about the subject.
Carry on. I'm sure you'll have a totally clever to you retort.
LMFAO, You always post dumbs Schit assumptions like that about people you know nothing about? Whatever floats your boat...
At any rate. I compared the number of Covid deaths (supposedly) in my own state to the number Of flu deaths in past years. Want to take a wild guess what the numbers were?
What's up? I didn't expect to strike so close to home that you'd get triggered once again. Damn, man. Chill out if you can.
LMFAO. Triggered? I asked you a question involving facts and you strut around like you actually scored something. The old adage about playing chess with a pigeon would apply here.
You know what’s really sad about this whole situation? It’s dumbasses like you who can’t face the fact that you were duped that are keeping this schit going. You Spout off about being free and how much you love America, blah, blah out of one side of your mouth, but when the schit hits the fan you aid and abet these commie fuggs that are wiping their asses with the constitution.
Let’s try this another way, when in the fugg have you ever heard of quarantining healthy people? Why is It ok for some businesses that are convenient for the government to keep going to stay open, but not for millions of small ones?
You guys are crying about how many peoplle are dying? I don't know a single one. But I do know multitudes of good people that are suffering severely because they don’t have a steady income coming in and are worried about how they’re going to make ends meet it if this schit doesn’t stop soon.
I figured most of the panic chicken littles were of a subset of the population that the media (those paragons of virtue and truth) told us were in the danger zone. I also figured once it all came out (not all but enough to dispel the bullchit at a minimum) there'd be some crow served up and eaten. Some would take it in good spirits, some would be butt hurt.
Hell no. You guys are still balls deep scared schitless over nothing. Is it pride? Or are you still buying the media's crap? My God this is mind boggling.
BGG,
I have given up.
For my penance I offer................
Pole vaulting
PEACE THROUGH ATHLETICS AND SPORT!!
Geno
PS I loves me some cheeks. Might be my favorite thing on God's green earth.
mmmmmmmmmmmm
Before I die, I would just like to be granted one more feel of cheeks like those on #68 there.
Right before I fly up into heaven to ol' John Prine................and Roy..........................Jimi too.
I figured most of the panic chicken littles were of a subset of the population that the media (those paragons of virtue and truth) told us were in the danger zone. I also figured once it all came out (not all but enough to dispel the bullchit at a minimum) there'd be some crow served up and eaten. Some would take it in good spirits, some would be butt hurt.
Hell no. You guys are still balls deep scared schitless over nothing. Is it pride? Or are you still buying the media's crap? My God this is mind boggling.
I know quite a few around here. It’s very hard for some - especially the know it all types - to admit they were taken to the cleaners hook, line and sinker. . .
Yes, yes. The know it all types The statisticians and epidemiologist among us. So many.
Then there’s the posse. The name callers who don’t like it when it’s returned in kind.
Yeah the know it all types. I know quite a few too. Glad you brought it up.
Man, keep it up. Maybe you’ll convince yourself that you're actually gaining any headway into convincing someone else you haven’t made an idiot out of yourself by believing this schit to this point.
I mean you haven’t. If anything, now you’re coming off even more shrill, desperate and boring, but it’ll give you something to do so you don’t have to confront the reality that you’re a gullible dumbass.
Its good to see the Montana Fly Man back trying to win friends with the cool crowd. Don't worry. Pretty soon at least one of them will notice you, and then you'll be with the in crowd .
What are you dudes so scared about when someone doesn't agree with ya'll???? Trump had no choice but to do what he did by shutting the country down when he did. He was damned if he did and damned if he didn't at the time. I have faith he'll get the country going again, but saying this is no worse than the cold and flu season is obviously not medically correct if you look beyond your own emotions about the subject.
Carry on. I'm sure you'll have a totally clever to you retort.
LMFAO, You always post dumbs Schit assumptions like that about people you know nothing about? Whatever floats your boat...
At any rate. I compared the number of Covid deaths (supposedly) in my own state to the number Of flu deaths in past years. Want to take a wild guess what the numbers were?
What's up? I didn't expect to strike so close to home that you'd get triggered once again. Damn, man. Chill out if you can.
LMFAO. Triggered? I asked you a question involving facts and you strut around like you actually scored something. The old adage about playing chess with a pigeon would apply here.
You know what’s really sad about this whole situation? It’s dumbasses like you who can’t face the fact that you were duped that are keeping this schit going. You Spout off about being free and how much you love America, blah, blah out of one side of your mouth, but when the schit hits the fan you aid and abet these commie fuggs that are wiping their asses with the constitution.
Let’s try this another way, when in the fugg have you ever heard of quarantining healthy people? Why is It ok for some businesses that are convenient for the government to keep going to stay open, but not for millions of small ones?
You guys are crying about how many peoplle are dying? I don't know a single one. But I do know multitudes of good people that are suffering severely because they don’t have a steady income coming in and are worried about how they’re going to make ends meet it if this schit doesn’t stop soon.
I figured most of the panic chicken littles were of a subset of the population that the media (those paragons of virtue and truth) told us were in the danger zone. I also figured once it all came out (not all but enough to dispel the bullchit at a minimum) there'd be some crow served up and eaten. Some would take it in good spirits, some would be butt hurt.
Hell no. You guys are still balls deep scared schitless over nothing. Is it pride? Or are you still buying the media's crap? My God this is mind boggling.
I figured most of the panic chicken littles were of a subset of the population that the media (those paragons of virtue and truth) told us were in the danger zone. I also figured once it all came out (not all but enough to dispel the bullchit at a minimum) there'd be some crow served up and eaten. Some would take it in good spirits, some would be butt hurt.
Hell no. You guys are still balls deep scared schitless over nothing. Is it pride? Or are you still buying the media's crap? My God this is mind boggling.
I know quite a few around here. It’s very hard for some - especially the know it all types - to admit they were taken to the cleaners hook, line and sinker. . .
Yes, yes. The know it all types The statisticians and epidemiologist among us. So many.
Then there’s the posse. The name callers who don’t like it when it’s returned in kind.
Yeah the know it all types. I know quite a few too. Glad you brought it up.
Man, keep it up. Maybe you’ll convince yourself that you're actually gaining any headway into convincing someone else you haven’t made an idiot out of yourself by believing this schit to this point.
I mean you haven’t. If anything, now you’re coming off even more shrill, desperate and boring, but it’ll give you something to do so you don’t have to confront the reality that you’re a gullible dumbass.
Its good to see the Montana Fly Man back trying to win friends with the cool crowd. Don't worry. Pretty soon at least one of them will notice you, and then you'll be with the in crowd .
What are you dudes so scared about when someone doesn't agree with ya'll???? Trump had no choice but to do what he did by shutting the country down when he did. He was damned if he did and damned if he didn't at the time. I have faith he'll get the country going again, but saying this is no worse than the cold and flu season is obviously not medically correct if you look beyond your own emotions about the subject.
Carry on. I'm sure you'll have a totally clever to you retort.
LMFAO, You always post dumbs Schit assumptions like that about people you know nothing about? Whatever floats your boat...
At any rate. I compared the number of Covid deaths (supposedly) in my own state to the number Of flu deaths in past years. Want to take a wild guess what the numbers were?
What's up? I didn't expect to strike so close to home that you'd get triggered once again. Damn, man. Chill out if you can.
LMFAO. Triggered? I asked you a question involving facts and you strut around like you actually scored something. The old adage about playing chess with a pigeon would apply here.
You know what’s really sad about this whole situation? It’s dumbasses like you who can’t face the fact that you were duped that are keeping this schit going. You Spout off about being free and how much you love America, blah, blah out of one side of your mouth, but when the schit hits the fan you aid and abet these commie fuggs that are wiping their asses with the constitution.
Let’s try this another way, when in the fugg have you ever heard of quarantining healthy people? Why is It ok for some businesses that are convenient for the government to keep going to stay open, but not for millions of small ones?
You guys are crying about how many peoplle are dying? I don't know a single one. But I do know multitudes of good people that are suffering severely because they don’t have a steady income coming in and are worried about how they’re going to make ends meet it if this schit doesn’t stop soon.
Do you give a fugg about them?
Oh,my.... If you have to ask, you're definitely operating 100% on emotions hoping to emit similar emotions from others. Sorry, but I don't play that game with people I don't know from Adam.........
No one likes/liked the shutdown, but as I stated earlier, Trump had no choice. Only time and a thorough look back in time will tell whether his choice was right. Currently you think he was wrong. I'm simply saying that politically he had no choice one way or the other. Liberals saw a crisis and were ready to pounce no matter what he did. If deaths were lower than expected originally, he would catch hell for shutting down the economy for no reason. If deaths had been equal to or more than initial projections. libs would have labeled him as a people killer to gain a political edge.
Yupper you're easily triggered with emotions controlling your entire thought process....... Hence dumass rolls out of your mouth very easily when talking to someone who doesn't agree 100% with you and your emotions.
If only you had been on the Task Force, I'm sure reason would have prevailed from the git go. You probably would have rolled right over them with a few choice "you dumasses" stated at the appropriate times. It's a truly convincing argument..........
btw - according to the report which pops up on my computer everyday just after high noon says that 16 people have died in Montana as of roughly noon today. I'm just as glad for that number as you are, but I had to look for it specifically when you asked as Montana has never been seen as a potential hot spot. Its too bad that's not the case everywhere.
[quote=Old_Toot][quote=Dryfly24][quote=BillyGoatGruff]Man, keep it up. Maybe you’ll convince yourself that you're actually gaining any headway into convincing someone else you haven’t made an idiot out of yourself by believing this schit to this point.
I mean you haven’t. If anything, now you’re coming off even more shrill, desperate and boring, but it’ll give you something to do so you don’t have to confront the reality that you’re a gullible dumbass.
Its good to see the Montana Fly Man back trying to win friends with the cool crowd. Don't worry. Pretty soon at least one of them will notice you, and then you'll be with the in crowd .
What are you dudes so scared about when someone doesn't agree with ya'll???? Trump had no choice but to do what he did by shutting the country down when he did. He was damned if he did and damned if he didn't at the time. I have faith he'll get the country going again, but saying this is no worse than the cold and flu season is obviously not medically correct if you look beyond your own emotions about the subject.
Carry on. I'm sure you'll have a totally clever to you retort.
LMFAO, You always post dumbs Schit assumptions like that about people you know nothing about? Whatever floats your boat...
At any rate. I compared the number of Covid deaths (supposedly) in my own state to the number Of flu deaths in past years. Want to take a wild guess what the numbers were?
What's up? I didn't expect to strike so close to home that you'd get triggered once again. Damn, man. Chill out if you can.
LMFAO. Triggered? I asked you a question involving facts and you strut around like you actually scored something. The old adage about playing chess with a pigeon would apply here.
You know what’s really sad about this whole situation? It’s dumbasses like you who can’t face the fact that you were duped that are keeping this schit going. You Spout off about being free and how much you love America, blah, blah out of one side of your mouth, but when the schit hits the fan you aid and abet these commie fuggs that are wiping their asses with the constitution.
Let’s try this another way, when in the fugg have you ever heard of quarantining healthy people? Why is It ok for some businesses that are convenient for the government to keep going to stay open, but not for millions of small ones?
You guys are crying about how many peoplle are dying? I don't know a single one. But I do know multitudes of good people that are suffering severely because they don’t have a steady income coming in and are worried about how they’re going to make ends meet it if this schit doesn’t stop soon.
Do you give a fugg about them?
Oh,my.... If you have to ask, you're definitely operating 100% on emotions hoping to emit similar emotions from others. Sorry, but I don't play that game with people I don't know from Adam.........
No one likes/liked the shutdown, but as I stated earlier, Trump had no choice. Only time and a thorough look back in time will tell whether his choice was right. Currently you think he was wrong. I'm simply saying that politically he had no choice one way or the other. Liberals saw a crisis and were ready to pounce no matter what he did. If deaths were lower than expected originally, he would catch hell for shutting down the economy for no reason. If deaths had been equal to or more than initial projections. libs would have labeled him as a people killer to gain a political edge.
Yupper you're easily triggered with emotions controlling your entire thought process....... Hence dumass rolls out of your mouth very easily when talking to someone who doesn't agree 100% with you and your emotions.
If only you had been on the Task Force, I'm sure reason would have prevailed from the git go. You probably would have rolled right over them with a few choice "you dumasses" stated at the appropriate times. It's a truly convincing argument..........
btw - according to the report which pops up on my computer everyday just after high noon says that 16 people have died in Montana as of roughly noon today. I'm just as glad for that number as you are, but I had to look for it specifically when you asked as Montana has never been seen as a potential hot spot. Its too bad that's not the case everywhere.
Ha Ha Ha, you are so fugging stupid you don't even know what it is you’re arguing about or who with.
Here’s your first clue numbnuts: I agree 100% with you about Trump and what he had to do. I do think it’s time he starts pulling back the reins, but I do agree with everything else.
Two: I wasn’t talking about Montana, I don't live in Montana dumbass. Never have. Like I said, you don't know schit about me, or why you’re even arguing with me. You got Flave Derangement syndrome so bad, you’re can’t even keep track of who you’re arguing with or why... Probably why he’s fckkng with you. You’re easy.
Three: I don’t even know who the fugg you are. Despite you’re desperate attempts at painting me triggered by anything you say, here’s a ttidbit for you. I don’t even remember seeing your name before. I couldn’t give a fugg less what you think of me cause you obviously have no fuggin clue who I am or what I’m about.
Four: Nothing you say affects me in my personal life one iota. Not a single one. Get over yourself. Nobody else here gives a fugg what you think for the same reasons. No one really gives a fugg what I think either dumbass the difference between you and me is I know it and I’m not delusional enough to think I’m so important to someone I’ve never met that it does.
Here’s a little shot of adult reality for you sport. We’re all just anonymous dumbasses typing away our opinions out of boredom on some random website because dumbasses like you support this stupid lockdown and we can’t really do anything more productive. I bet when the schit goes back to normal - if ever - traffic goes way down here.
What I do give a schitt about is that if enough dumbasses like you continue to support these lockdowns bad, bad schit is coming for all of us. And it’s not some bullschit disease that won’t affect 99.75 of us. It’s the economic ruin that will affect 100% of us.
Now go ahead and get the last word in. There’s no point in continuing this since obviously no one is budging to either side and you seem too dense to even understand the point I’m trying to make.
I won’t even bother responding so you can feel like you scored.
I figured most of the panic chicken littles were of a subset of the population that the media (those paragons of virtue and truth) told us were in the danger zone. I also figured once it all came out (not all but enough to dispel the bullchit at a minimum) there'd be some crow served up and eaten. Some would take it in good spirits, some would be butt hurt.
Hell no. You guys are still balls deep scared schitless over nothing. Is it pride? Or are you still buying the media's crap? My God this is mind boggling.
BGG,
I have given up.
For my penance I offer................
Pole vaulting
PEACE THROUGH ATHLETICS AND SPORT!!
Geno
PS I loves me some cheeks. Might be my favorite thing on God's green earth.
Jesus ph uck your original post on this got 10 views and now bring it over here..
I figured most of the panic chicken littles were of a subset of the population that the media (those paragons of virtue and truth) told us were in the danger zone. I also figured once it all came out (not all but enough to dispel the bullchit at a minimum) there'd be some crow served up and eaten. Some would take it in good spirits, some would be butt hurt.
Hell no. You guys are still balls deep scared schitless over nothing. Is it pride? Or are you still buying the media's crap? My God this is mind boggling.
BGG,
I have given up.
For my penance I offer................
Pole vaulting
PEACE THROUGH ATHLETICS AND SPORT!!
Geno
PS I loves me some cheeks. Might be my favorite thing on God's green earth.
Jesus ph uck your original post on this got 10 views and now bring it over here..
Not my "original post" and I think Steve's thread has 64 views now.
Just trying to quash the internecine combativeness here.
If you don't like pole vaulting, perhaps just some beauty pageant coverage will be more to your tastes?
I figured most of the panic chicken littles were of a subset of the population that the media (those paragons of virtue and truth) told us were in the danger zone. I also figured once it all came out (not all but enough to dispel the bullchit at a minimum) there'd be some crow served up and eaten. Some would take it in good spirits, some would be butt hurt.
Hell no. You guys are still balls deep scared schitless over nothing. Is it pride? Or are you still buying the media's crap? My God this is mind boggling.
BGG,
I have given up.
For my penance I offer................
Pole vaulting
PEACE THROUGH ATHLETICS AND SPORT!!
Geno
PS I loves me some cheeks. Might be my favorite thing on God's green earth.
Jesus ph uck your original post on this got 10 views and now bring it over here..
Not my "original post" and I think Steve's thread has 64 views now.
Just trying to quash the internecine combativeness here.
If you don't like pole vaulting, perhaps just some beauty pageant coverage will be more to your tastes?
I figured most of the panic chicken littles were of a subset of the population that the media (those paragons of virtue and truth) told us were in the danger zone. I also figured once it all came out (not all but enough to dispel the bullchit at a minimum) there'd be some crow served up and eaten. Some would take it in good spirits, some would be butt hurt.
Hell no. You guys are still balls deep scared schitless over nothing. Is it pride? Or are you still buying the media's crap? My God this is mind boggling.
BGG,
I have given up.
For my penance I offer................
Pole vaulting
PEACE THROUGH ATHLETICS AND SPORT!!
Geno
PS I loves me some cheeks. Might be my favorite thing on God's green earth.
Jesus ph uck your original post on this got 10 views and now bring it over here..
Not my "original post" and I think Steve's thread has 64 views now.
Just trying to quash the internecine combativeness here.
If you don't like pole vaulting, perhaps just some beauty pageant coverage will be more to your tastes?
Have you sent Splattermatic's stock back to him yet?
Anything else you know nothing about you feel compelled to ask about?
Is there anything to know beyond what SM has posted? It seems you have not made him whole, yet continue to post here as if you were an honest businessman.
Have you sent Splattermatic's stock back to him yet?
Anything else you know nothing about you feel compelled to ask about?
Is there anything to know beyond what SM has posted? It seems you have not made him whole, yet continue to post here as if you were an honest businessman.
Feel free to enlighten me.
The chasm involved in your enlightenment is off the frigging scale. Please carry on in the dark. As you have been.
Have you sent Splattermatic's stock back to him yet?
Anything else you know nothing about you feel compelled to ask about?
Is there anything to know beyond what SM has posted? It seems you have not made him whole, yet continue to post here as if you were an honest businessman.
Feel free to enlighten me.
The chasm involved in your enlightenment is off the frigging scale. Please carry on in the dark. As you have been.
What scale do you speak of? As a member here since before your current unpleasantness, I have not read one single explanation of your poor business dealings with SM. Is he merely besmirching your good name? Is there some thread that I have missed in which you have exonerated your name?
All I have seen is you denigrating anyone that asks for the answers to these questions. Once again, please enlighten all of us to your plight.
Have you sent Splattermatic's stock back to him yet?
Anything else you know nothing about you feel compelled to ask about?
Is there anything to know beyond what SM has posted? It seems you have not made him whole, yet continue to post here as if you were an honest businessman.
Feel free to enlighten me.
The chasm involved in your enlightenment is off the frigging scale. Please carry on in the dark. As you have been.
What scale do you speak of? As a member here since before your current unpleasantness, I have not read one single explanation of your poor business dealings with SM. Is he merely besmirching your good name? Is there some thread that I have missed in which you have exonerated your name?
All I have seen is you denigrating anyone that asks for the answers to these questions. Once again, please enlighten all of us to your plight.
It is none of your business and I could not possibly care less what you think. And yes there is much you know nothing of.
Have you sent Splattermatic's stock back to him yet?
Anything else you know nothing about you feel compelled to ask about?
Is there anything to know beyond what SM has posted? It seems you have not made him whole, yet continue to post here as if you were an honest businessman.
Feel free to enlighten me.
The chasm involved in your enlightenment is off the frigging scale. Please carry on in the dark. As you have been.
What scale do you speak of? As a member here since before your current unpleasantness, I have not read one single explanation of your poor business dealings with SM. Is he merely besmirching your good name? Is there some thread that I have missed in which you have exonerated your name?
All I have seen is you denigrating anyone that asks for the answers to these questions. Once again, please enlighten all of us to your plight.
It is none of your business and I could not possibly care less what you think. And yes there is much you know nothing of.
No worries, just be aware that anytime you post here there will be members that ask these same questions.
Not a fact at all. Spreading out the numbers does save lives. First the medical facilities will not get swamped giving patients better care with appropriate support. NY was the only place that really got swamped, but that is simply because the plan worked and a few very unexpected things happened.
Second, and huge, is the fact lower numbers of cases and the social distancing reduced the viral load (titer, whatever label you prefer) making each individual's immune system better able to deal with the virus. In swamped areas patients got far heavier infections in far less time making it harder to fight.
Both of these items saved lives. The same number of people may come in contact with the virus but the severity will be reduced.
The unexpected and huge impact of the Isreali protocol of hydrochloroquine and zinc was the real difference. Medical staff started using it early on prophylactically resulting in far fewer of them getting sick. It is remarkable how few of them got sick.
Trump blew it by telling the public too early, before supplies were available, and got the media beating him down. He is now sitting on that nugget, waiting to drop it at an important time. It is the single most important element in the fight.
Now for the important questions about the Isreali research that brought forward the treatment protocol: what led them to the proper treatment so quickly? Obviously they were already doing research and knew about the effect before the pandemic. Did they expect an attack on themselves with some version of coronavirus? Or were they planning to use a coronavirus as a biological weapon and studying effective treatments for their soldiers and citizens?
Back in the '70s there was an outbreak of Eastern Equine Encephalomyelitis and the US military immediately supplied everyone affected with a vaccine. Though they denied planning to use it as a bioweapon it raised questions.
[quote=Old_Toot][quote=Dryfly24][quote=BillyGoatGruff]Man, keep it up. Maybe you’ll convince yourself that you're actually gaining any headway into convincing someone else you haven’t made an idiot out of yourself by believing this schit to this point.
I mean you haven’t. If anything, now you’re coming off even more shrill, desperate and boring, but it’ll give you something to do so you don’t have to confront the reality that you’re a gullible dumbass.
Its good to see the Montana Fly Man back trying to win friends with the cool crowd. Don't worry. Pretty soon at least one of them will notice you, and then you'll be with the in crowd .
What are you dudes so scared about when someone doesn't agree with ya'll???? Trump had no choice but to do what he did by shutting the country down when he did. He was damned if he did and damned if he didn't at the time. I have faith he'll get the country going again, but saying this is no worse than the cold and flu season is obviously not medically correct if you look beyond your own emotions about the subject.
Carry on. I'm sure you'll have a totally clever to you retort.
LMFAO, You always post dumbs Schit assumptions like that about people you know nothing about? Whatever floats your boat...
At any rate. I compared the number of Covid deaths (supposedly) in my own state to the number Of flu deaths in past years. Want to take a wild guess what the numbers were?
What's up? I didn't expect to strike so close to home that you'd get triggered once again. Damn, man. Chill out if you can.
LMFAO. Triggered? I asked you a question involving facts and you strut around like you actually scored something. The old adage about playing chess with a pigeon would apply here.
You know what’s really sad about this whole situation? It’s dumbasses like you who can’t face the fact that you were duped that are keeping this schit going. You Spout off about being free and how much you love America, blah, blah out of one side of your mouth, but when the schit hits the fan you aid and abet these commie fuggs that are wiping their asses with the constitution.
Let’s try this another way, when in the fugg have you ever heard of quarantining healthy people? Why is It ok for some businesses that are convenient for the government to keep going to stay open, but not for millions of small ones?
You guys are crying about how many peoplle are dying? I don't know a single one. But I do know multitudes of good people that are suffering severely because they don’t have a steady income coming in and are worried about how they’re going to make ends meet it if this schit doesn’t stop soon.
Do you give a fugg about them?
Oh,my.... If you have to ask, you're definitely operating 100% on emotions hoping to emit similar emotions from others. Sorry, but I don't play that game with people I don't know from Adam.........
No one likes/liked the shutdown, but as I stated earlier, Trump had no choice. Only time and a thorough look back in time will tell whether his choice was right. Currently you think he was wrong. I'm simply saying that politically he had no choice one way or the other. Liberals saw a crisis and were ready to pounce no matter what he did. If deaths were lower than expected originally, he would catch hell for shutting down the economy for no reason. If deaths had been equal to or more than initial projections. libs would have labeled him as a people killer to gain a political edge.
Yupper you're easily triggered with emotions controlling your entire thought process....... Hence dumass rolls out of your mouth very easily when talking to someone who doesn't agree 100% with you and your emotions.
If only you had been on the Task Force, I'm sure reason would have prevailed from the git go. You probably would have rolled right over them with a few choice "you dumasses" stated at the appropriate times. It's a truly convincing argument..........
btw - according to the report which pops up on my computer everyday just after high noon says that 16 people have died in Montana as of roughly noon today. I'm just as glad for that number as you are, but I had to look for it specifically when you asked as Montana has never been seen as a potential hot spot. Its too bad that's not the case everywhere.
Ha Ha Ha, you are so fugging stupid you don't even know what it is you’re arguing about or who with.
Here’s your first clue numbnuts: I agree 100% with you about Trump and what he had to do. I do think it’s time he starts pulling back the reins, but I do agree with everything else.
Two: I wasn’t talking about Montana, I don't live in Montana dumbass. Never have. Like I said, you don't know schit about me, or why you’re even arguing with me. You got Flave Derangement syndrome so bad, you’re can’t even keep track of who you’re arguing with or why... Probably why he’s fckkng with you. You’re easy.
Three: I don’t even know who the fugg you are. Despite you’re desperate attempts at painting me triggered by anything you say, here’s a ttidbit for you. I don’t even remember seeing your name before. I couldn’t give a fugg less what you think of me cause you obviously have no fuggin clue who I am or what I’m about.
Four: Nothing you say affects me in my personal life one iota. Not a single one. Get over yourself. Nobody else here gives a fugg what you think for the same reasons. No one really gives a fugg what I think either dumbass the difference between you and me is I know it and I’m not delusional enough to think I’m so important to someone I’ve never met that it does.
Here’s a little shot of adult reality for you sport. We’re all just anonymous dumbasses typing away our opinions out of boredom on some random website because dumbasses like you support this stupid lockdown and we can’t really do anything more productive. I bet when the schit goes back to normal - if ever - traffic goes way down here.
What I do give a schitt about is that if enough dumbasses like you continue to support these lockdowns bad, bad schit is coming for all of us. And it’s not some bullschit disease that won’t affect 99.75 of us. It’s the economic ruin that will affect 100% of us.
Now go ahead and get the last word in. There’s no point in continuing this since obviously no one is budging to either side and you seem too dense to even understand the point I’m trying to make.
I won’t even bother responding so you can feel like you scored.
LOL... Triggered once again.
Try not telling me that I'm a dumbass, etc., etc., that I like the lock down - which I don't - and that as a result of the virus that I'm hiding in fear behind my locked front door when I post my anonymous opinions. I do know that this virus is real and needs to be respected but not feared. Trying those thing on your part would do wonders for both of us. Trump is trying to roll back the reins, at least the governor where I live is doing that with full Trump support. I have no idea about what your liberal governor might be doing. That is your problem and not mine.
As for flave, he is what he is. I chuckle and roll my eyes at most of what he says, and just shake my head and move on at the rest. Seldom do I go, "Wow. That was awesome" when he does his usual canned routine just to get attention. I hope for you that he adds you to his favorites list.
To be honest, I really wasn't concerned at all about where you lived from the git go. You accepted the name in the beginning, or at least you didn't complain loudly, so it stuck. Since you wanted a number I picked a state with a small number since I visit there often and it fit with the name. I simply drive through New Mexico as quickly as possible and only buy gas and maybe a meal on my way through there if I'm driving. Triggered once again....?? As for New Mexico, the same report shows 172 deaths by noon yesterday. I hope that calms your mind, Montana Fly Man.
Fixed it for you Jim. (after all, I can't see cheeks if I'm visiting Roy and the crowd)
That duck tape is invaluable stuff around the fram/ranch. I can see your reluctance to use it on the winders. Might have to make a run to a populated place to get more and risk even more exposure to The Corona.
Good edit. May I add #flatulencecurve ?
I just assumed Jim was up to speed on the duct tape. I had no idea he was living a risky lifestyle.
Fixed it for you Jim. (after all, I can't see cheeks if I'm visiting Roy and the crowd)
That duck tape is invaluable stuff around the fram/ranch. I can see your reluctance to use it on the winders. Might have to make a run to a populated place to get more and risk even more exposure to The Corona.
Good edit. May I add #flatulencecurve ?
I just assumed Jim was up to speed on the duct tape. I had no idea he was living a risky lifestyle.
280, yes you may add it.
Besides the duct tape, now that it's warming up here and we're not burning the wood stove as much, I've been thinking I need to put a cover over the chimbley so The Corona can't get in that way.
Been wondering if I soak a rag in rubbing alcohol, and stick it in the cabin air filter in the car, I can probably run with the vents open and not wear a mask while driving................alone.
Now for the important questions about the Isreali research that brought forward the treatment protocol: what led them to the proper treatment so quickly? Obviously they were already doing research and knew about the effect before the pandemic. Did they expect an attack on themselves with some version of coronavirus? Or were they planning to use a coronavirus as a biological weapon and studying effective treatments for their soldiers and citizens?
Israeli has been under the constant threat of biological warfare by it's neighbors for a long time.
* Jews in the professions and academia. There is a large over representation of Jews in the professions, with an achievement quotient of 5.8 for psychiatrists, 4.0 for dentists, 3.8 for mathematicians, 3.7 for doctors, 3.4 for writers, 3.3 for lawyers, and 1.7 for architects. There is a disproportionate number of Jews on elite university faculties with an achievement quotient of 13.3 for law, 12.6 for sociology, 10.4 for economics, 9.6 for physics, 8.9 for political science, 8.1 for history, 7.4 for philosophy, and 7.4 for mathematics.
* Nobel Prize winners. Of the 200 American Nobel Prize winners, 62 (31%) were Jewish. Since Jews constitute about 2% of the American population, they have an achievement quotient of 10. Which is very conservative and not including Jews who were not born in the United States, such as Einstein. Lynn noted that 33% of the Nobel Prize winners in the second half of the twentieth century were Jewish. He said that many Jews arrived in the U.S. during the years 1881 to 1924 and had to earn their livings by skilled manual labor such as tailoring. It took awhile for the Jews to establish themselves and afford good educations for their children.
* Mathematics. The Jewish achievement quotient is 10 for recipients of the annual William Lowell Putnam Competition of the American Mathematical Society. They have an achievement quotient of 16 for recipients of the Fields Medal or Wolf Prize.
* Pulitzer Prizes. Jews have won 52% of the prizes for non-fiction, 15% for fiction, 20% for poetry, and 34% for drama. If we assume 2% of Americans are Jewish, the respective achievement quotients are 26.0, 7.5, 10.0, and 17.0.
* Over representation of students in Ivy League universities. In 1919 the percentage of Jewish students was 20% for Harvard, 13% for Yale, 20% for Brown, 25% for Pennsylvania, and 40% for Columbia. At that time the Ivy League universities began to use various transparent ways to keep their Jewish enrollment down, such as on the basis of last names or by various intangible qualities such as ‘manliness,’ ‘uprightness,’ ‘cleanliness,’ and ‘native refinement.’ In 1957, 23% of Ivy League university students were Jewish.
It should be no surprise regarded high intelligence as a major reason for Jewish achievement.
They had been working on a vaccine for a couple of years before the world found out about it.
Nope...
The Covid-19 showed up in 2019 as a novel virus. Impossible to make a vaccine for a virus that does not yet exist.
How about that stock, we're all wondering? Did you send it back yet?
ETA: I see in reading more of the thread that it hasn't been sent back yet so I guess I got my answer. I haven't been here all that long but have read the thread and saw pics of that beautiful piece of wood...I'd love to hear why Splatter lost that sweet stock. Why not tell your side of the story if you indeed have one?
Coincidentally, I’m about to run out for mask making supplies. I want make sure people can see that I’m smiling. What do you think will make me appear less intimidating sheer or ultra sheer pantyhose? Ultra sheer will probably look most natural, but I’m afraid they’ll be less durable and might tear on my glasses.
Coincidentally, I’m about to run out for mask making supplies. I want make sure people to see that I’m smiling. What do you think will make me appear less intimidating sheer or ultra sheer pantyhose. Ultra sheer will probably look most natural, but I’m afraid they’ll be less durable and might tear on my glasses.
Go with the wide fishnets. Your lips will punch through..
Or, you can just order a tarpon scales gaiter like mine.
Now for the important questions about the Isreali research that brought forward the treatment protocol: what led them to the proper treatment so quickly? Obviously they were already doing research and knew about the effect before the pandemic. Did they expect an attack on themselves with some version of coronavirus? Or were they planning to use a coronavirus as a biological weapon and studying effective treatments for their soldiers and citizens?
Israeli has been under the constant threat of biological warfare by it's neighbors for a long time.
* Jews in the professions and academia. There is a large over representation of Jews in the professions, with an achievement quotient of 5.8 for psychiatrists, 4.0 for dentists, 3.8 for mathematicians, 3.7 for doctors, 3.4 for writers, 3.3 for lawyers, and 1.7 for architects. There is a disproportionate number of Jews on elite university faculties with an achievement quotient of 13.3 for law, 12.6 for sociology, 10.4 for economics, 9.6 for physics, 8.9 for political science, 8.1 for history, 7.4 for philosophy, and 7.4 for mathematics.
* Nobel Prize winners. Of the 200 American Nobel Prize winners, 62 (31%) were Jewish. Since Jews constitute about 2% of the American population, they have an achievement quotient of 10. Which is very conservative and not including Jews who were not born in the United States, such as Einstein. Lynn noted that 33% of the Nobel Prize winners in the second half of the twentieth century were Jewish. He said that many Jews arrived in the U.S. during the years 1881 to 1924 and had to earn their livings by skilled manual labor such as tailoring. It took awhile for the Jews to establish themselves and afford good educations for their children.
* Mathematics. The Jewish achievement quotient is 10 for recipients of the annual William Lowell Putnam Competition of the American Mathematical Society. They have an achievement quotient of 16 for recipients of the Fields Medal or Wolf Prize.
* Pulitzer Prizes. Jews have won 52% of the prizes for non-fiction, 15% for fiction, 20% for poetry, and 34% for drama. If we assume 2% of Americans are Jewish, the respective achievement quotients are 26.0, 7.5, 10.0, and 17.0.
* Over representation of students in Ivy League universities. In 1919 the percentage of Jewish students was 20% for Harvard, 13% for Yale, 20% for Brown, 25% for Pennsylvania, and 40% for Columbia. At that time the Ivy League universities began to use various transparent ways to keep their Jewish enrollment down, such as on the basis of last names or by various intangible qualities such as ‘manliness,’ ‘uprightness,’ ‘cleanliness,’ and ‘native refinement.’ In 1957, 23% of Ivy League university students were Jewish.
It should be no surprise regarded high intelligence as a major reason for Jewish achievement.
They had been working on a vaccine for a couple of years before the world found out about it.
Nope...
The Covid-19 showed up in 2019 as a novel virus. Impossible to make a vaccine for a virus that does not yet exist.
How about that stock, we're all wondering? Did you send it back yet?
ETA: I see in reading more of the thread that it hasn't been sent back yet so I guess I got my answer. I haven't been here all that long but have read the thread and saw pics of that beautiful piece of wood...I'd love to hear why Splatter lost that sweet stock. Why not tell your side of the story if you indeed have one?
My question is: Why is the phugkwad still even on this board after stealing splattermatic's stock? Lying co$ksucker thieves should be banned.
Here in south Florida (one of the original "hot spots") they're testing everybody. Free of charge. Antibodies, symptoms, asymptomatic, blah, blah, blah.
Hopefully the freight company dont get hijacked by indians next time.
Seems like some areas are in a swivet to prove its already been and gone.....and some areas (Montanner) are in a swivet to prove it never made it here.
My high-school civics teacher's father survived it.
Shelby care center. Was happy he got it....wanted to die. Terrible shape and no will to live.
Perhaps the collective intellect of Bayou, Kingston, Old Toot, and Sitka can explain how "sort of quarantining" contains a virus?
That would be a great read.
LOL
"Sort of quarantining" does not contain the virus any more than full quarantine does. What it does is reduce the spread to a rate medical facilities can handle. It also lowers "virus load" so when people get the virus they are not hammered by a huge dose. That allows normal immune systems to deal with the virus with little to no medical intervention.
We got ridiculously lucky with the fact there is now a drug therapy x2 offering remarkable effect on Corona viruses.
The only real argument is whether the lives saved were worth the shutdown and how soon should we open things back up. And in the current conditions the cost of staying shut down is too high. So the only real question is how to open things up.
Went to a Home Depot today. It was nuts with people waiting in line with masks to enter. Passed and went to Lowe's. No line. Thought good deal and grabbed some garden stuff. Got inside to pay and there was like one maybe two lines open and a 75 yard long line to pay. Passed again. Seriously just open the damn stores back up with all the self checkout lines and let people wash their hands and live their lives. So sick of this crap.
["Sort of quarantining" does not contain the virus any more than full quarantine does. What it does is reduce the spread to a rate medical facilities can handle. It also lowers "virus load" so when people get the virus they are not hammered by a huge dose.
Quoted for stupidity, and cause it deserves a spot in the hall of lame.
Perhaps the collective intellect of Bayou, Kingston, Old Toot, and Sitka can explain how "sort of quarantining" contains a virus?
That would be a great read.
LOL
"Sort of quarantining" does not contain the virus any more than full quarantine does. What it does is reduce the spread to a rate medical facilities can handle. It also lowers "virus load" so when people get the virus they are not hammered by a huge dose. That allows normal immune systems to deal with the virus with little to no medical intervention.
We got ridiculously lucky with the fact there is now a drug therapy x2 offering remarkable effect on Corona viruses.
The only real argument is whether the lives saved were worth the shutdown and how soon should we open things back up. And in the current conditions the cost of staying shut down is too high. So the only real question is how to open things up.
LOL.
The funniest thing about this post, is that you're being serious.
Fort Peck Tribe is getting 10,400 antibody tests and will begin testing on May 20th.
If we get rained out of work I'd be half tempted to get tested. Very curious.
What do you think the chances are that the Fort Peck Tribe’s population has been exposed to the virus?
It's already here.
Our county has had 7(?) confirmed cases. All recovered.
And even during the 'lockdown' you would never know that we were 'locked down'.
Most of the locals didn't give a chit and carried on business as usual. Schools, bars and restaurants were closed but pretty much every thing else was open.
At this point, I ask that you not raise the flag of victory but rather vow to pursue those Covidians that seek to avoid atonement, particularly, those that sought to derail the Trump train in 2016.
This thread should not be about the future of life with Covid, but rather a way for the chicken littles to repent and rejoin the brotherhood.
To avoid a Campfirian civil war, they MUST repent.
Plywood can be a breeding ground for germs when they get down in the cracks and crannies. At least that’s what my Jr High shop teacher told us when he warned against making fancy plywood cuttin boards for Mother’s Day gifts.
It's interesting to see folks kinda trying to repent without actually coming out and doing so. Faux repentance afoot? How is the campaign going - number of actual repentees so far?
Most of the locals didn't give a chit and carried on business as usual. Schools, bars and restaurants were closed but pretty much every thing else was open.
At this point, I ask that you not raise the flag of victory but rather vow to pursue those Covidians that seek to avoid atonement, particularly, those that sought to derail the Trump train in 2016.
This thread should not be about the future of life with Covid, but rather a way for the chicken littles to repent and rejoin the brotherhood.
To avoid a Campfirian civil war, they MUST repent.
Most of the locals didn't give a chit and carried on business as usual. Schools, bars and restaurants were closed but pretty much every thing else was open.
You just described the entire country.
We were shocked how wide open and busy Havre was a month ago.
It's interesting to see folks kinda trying to repent without actually coming out and doing so. Faux repentance afoot? How is the campaign going - number of actual repentees so far?
Perhaps the collective intellect of Bayou, Kingston, Old Toot, and Sitka can explain how "sort of quarantining" contains a virus?
That would be a great read.
LOL
"Sort of quarantining" does not contain the virus any more than full quarantine does. What it does is reduce the spread to a rate medical facilities can handle. It also lowers "virus load" so when people get the virus they are not hammered by a huge dose. That allows normal immune systems to deal with the virus with little to no medical intervention.
We got ridiculously lucky with the fact there is now a drug therapy x2 offering remarkable effect on Corona viruses.
The only real argument is whether the lives saved were worth the shutdown and how soon should we open things back up. And in the current conditions the cost of staying shut down is too high. So the only real question is how to open things up.
We got ridiculously lucky with the fact there is now a drug therapy x2 offering remarkable effect on Corona viruses.
Please expand on this.
hydroxychloroquine with zinc phosphate has shown to be extremely effective against the virus. It is the malaria, lupus, and Rheumatoid arthritis drug they have been talking about. Azithromyacin (in some packaging/dosages it is known as a Z-Pack) is touted as an adjunct just to prevent pneumonia. It has nothing to do with Covid-19.
Isrealis figured it out and let the US know ASAP. Trump went and announced it as a great hope and the schit flew. There have been many tests done and when used with zinc it made a huge difference. Tom Hanks and his wife both used it and it knocked the stuff out immediately. There have been studies done without the zinc which showed minimal efficacy. Those tests are the only tests being reported by the media. Medical staff have been using it for weeks prophylactically. It is the reason you see so few stories of doctors getting sick.If it was as contagious as claimed we would have seen a lot more sick docs.It is the true game changer in this whole thing and we are extremely lucky it has been put to use.
The second drug is newer on the scene, remdesivir, and it appears to be helpful, but people I know involved in research say it is not nearly as fast nor as effective as the other.
The media is happier to talk about the R.
There was a Michigan State Senator Karen Whitsett censured for thanking Trump publicly for speaking out about hydroxychloroquine. She said it saved her life... lots more out there. There are some evil people out there.
Perhaps the collective intellect of Bayou, Kingston, Old Toot, and Sitka can explain how "sort of quarantining" contains a virus?
That would be a great read.
LOL
"Sort of quarantining" does not contain the virus any more than full quarantine does. What it does is reduce the spread to a rate medical facilities can handle. It also lowers "virus load" so when people get the virus they are not hammered by a huge dose. That allows normal immune systems to deal with the virus with little to no medical intervention.
We got ridiculously lucky with the fact there is now a drug therapy x2 offering remarkable effect on Corona viruses.
The only real argument is whether the lives saved were worth the shutdown and how soon should we open things back up. And in the current conditions the cost of staying shut down is too high. So the only real question is how to open things up.
LOL.
The funniest thing about this post, is that you're being serious.
Feel free to expand on anything you consider an error.
Perhaps the collective intellect of Bayou, Kingston, Old Toot, and Sitka can explain how "sort of quarantining" contains a virus?
That would be a great read.
LOL
"Sort of quarantining" does not contain the virus any more than full quarantine does. What it does is reduce the spread to a rate medical facilities can handle. It also lowers "virus load" so when people get the virus they are not hammered by a huge dose. That allows normal immune systems to deal with the virus with little to no medical intervention.
We got ridiculously lucky with the fact there is now a drug therapy x2 offering remarkable effect on Corona viruses.
The only real argument is whether the lives saved were worth the shutdown and how soon should we open things back up. And in the current conditions the cost of staying shut down is too high. So the only real question is how to open things up.
We got ridiculously lucky with the fact there is now a drug therapy x2 offering remarkable effect on Corona viruses.
Please expand on this.
hydroxychloroquine with zinc phosphate has shown to be extremely effective against the virus. It is the malaria, lupus, and Rheumatoid arthritis drug they have been talking about. Azithromyacin (in some packaging/dosages it is known as a Z-Pack) is touted as an adjunct just to prevent pneumonia. It has nothing to do with Covid-19.
Isrealis figured it out and let the US know ASAP. Trump went and announced it as a great hope and the schit flew. There have been many tests done and when used with zinc it made a huge difference. Tom Hanks and his wife both used it and it knocked the stuff out immediately. There have been studies done without the zinc which showed minimal efficacy. Those tests are the only tests being reported by the media. Medical staff have been using it for weeks prophylactically. It is the reason you see so few stories of doctors getting sick.If it was as contagious as claimed we would have seen a lot more sick docs.It is the true game changer in this whole thing and we are extremely lucky it has been put to use.
The second drug is newer on the scene, remdesivir, and it appears to be helpful, but people I know involved in research say it is not nearly as fast nor as effective as the other.
The media is happier to talk about the R.
There was a Michigan State Senator Karen Whitsett censured for thanking Trump publicly for speaking out about hydroxychloroquine. She said it saved her life... lots more out there. There are some evil people out there.
Dems plan to censure Michigan lawmaker who said Trump's boosting of hydroxychloroquine 'saved my life' Andrew O'ReillyBy Andrew O'Reilly | Fox News
Democrats in Michigan will vote on Saturday to censure one of their colleagues who praised President Trump for advocating the use of an anti-malarial drug that she claimed cured her of COVID-19.
The 13th Congressional District Democratic Party Organization argues that state Rep. Karen Whitsett, D-Detroit, broke protocol by meeting with Trump and Vice President Mike Pence during an April 14 meeting of coronavirus survivors and for crediting hydroxychloroquine with saving her life.
Whitsett first made the claim that hydroxychloroquine – a commonly prescribed anti-malarial drug – saved her life during an appearance on Fox News' “The Ingraham Angle” earlier this month. She said that if it weren't for Trump pushing the drug through the Food and Drug Administration's approval process for off-label use and touting it repeatedly during his daily press briefings, she may not have survived the disease.
"I really want to say that you have to give this an opportunity," she said on the show. "For me, it saved my life. I only can go by what it is that I have gone through and what my story is, and I can't speak for anyone else. So that's not what I'm trying to do here. I'm only speaking for myself."
Study finds no benefit to using hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19Video Earlier this week, however, an analysis of the use of the drug to treat COVID-19 patients in U.S. veterans hospitals found no benefit to using the drug and that there were more deaths among those given hydroxychloroquine versus standard care.
The nationwide study was not a rigorous experiment. But with 368 patients, it’s the largest look so far of hydroxychloroquine with or without the antibiotic azithromycin for COVID-19, which has killed more than 185,000 people worldwide as of Thursday.
The resolution to censure Whitsett does not specifically criticize her comments about hydroxychloroquine, but instead “misrepresented the needs and priorities" of Democratic leadership to the president and public. The resolution also says she's participated in events with the Republican Women's Federation of Michigan to express gratitude to the president.
The resolution states, according to a copy obtained by The Detroit News, that Whitsett "has repeatedly and publicly praised the president's delayed and misguided COVID-19 response efforts in contradiction with the scientifically based and action-oriented response" from Michigan's Democratic leadership, "endangering the health, safety and welfare of her constituents, the city of Detroit and the state of Michigan."
Michigan Democratic lawmaker: Hydroxychloroquine saved my lifeVideo The 13th Congressional Democratic group is also upset at Whitsett for making negative comments about the Democratic Party and for refusing to come when asked to attend a “screening” of candidates for her house district.
"I don’t have time for politics," Whitsett said. "That’s ridiculous, during a pandemic, that they think I have time for a screening. ... I have people that need me.”
Fox News’ Charles Creitz and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
I made an observation last Friday when we went to Miles City. We went to Murdoch’s, no masks. Red Rock, no masks. Ace Hardware, no masks, then we went to Walmart, OMG.
Perhaps the collective intellect of Bayou, Kingston, Old Toot, and Sitka can explain how "sort of quarantining" contains a virus?
That would be a great read.
LOL
"Sort of quarantining" does not contain the virus any more than full quarantine does. What it does is reduce the spread to a rate medical facilities can handle. It also lowers "virus load" so when people get the virus they are not hammered by a huge dose. That allows normal immune systems to deal with the virus with little to no medical intervention.
We got ridiculously lucky with the fact there is now a drug therapy x2 offering remarkable effect on Corona viruses.
The only real argument is whether the lives saved were worth the shutdown and how soon should we open things back up. And in the current conditions the cost of staying shut down is too high. So the only real question is how to open things up.
Hilarious!
Bet you cannot name a single false statement...
People believe almost everything they say, you are no exception.
Please explain viral load and specify how social distancing reduces said load.
Now explain how the virus infecting said person who has been social distancing knows that said person has been social distancing and therefore reduces the viral load.
Seriously, where do people come up with this stuff?
Perhaps the collective intellect of Bayou, Kingston, Old Toot, and Sitka can explain how "sort of quarantining" contains a virus?
That would be a great read.
LOL
"Sort of quarantining" does not contain the virus any more than full quarantine does. What it does is reduce the spread to a rate medical facilities can handle. It also lowers "virus load" so when people get the virus they are not hammered by a huge dose. That allows normal immune systems to deal with the virus with little to no medical intervention.
We got ridiculously lucky with the fact there is now a drug therapy x2 offering remarkable effect on Corona viruses.
The only real argument is whether the lives saved were worth the shutdown and how soon should we open things back up. And in the current conditions the cost of staying shut down is too high. So the only real question is how to open things up.
Hilarious!
Bet you cannot name a single false statement...
People believe almost everything they say, you are no exception.
Please explain viral load and specify how social distancing reduces said load.
Now explain how the virus infecting said person who has been social distancing knows that said person has been social distancing and therefore reduces the viral load.
Seriously, where do people come up with this stuff?
Is it sort of like a virgin only taking a little bit of dick?
Please explain viral load and specify how social distancing reduces said load.
Now explain how the virus infecting said person who has been social distancing knows that said person has been social distancing and therefore reduces the viral load.
Seriously, where do people come up with this stuff?
Is it sort of like a virgin only taking a little bit of dick?
very good analogy...!!!!
Or maybe like just being kinda' pregnant? I think that I'm starting to see the light.
Please explain viral load and specify how social distancing reduces said load.
Now explain how the virus infecting said person who has been social distancing knows that said person has been social distancing and therefore reduces the viral load.
Seriously, where do people come up with this stuff?
Is it sort of like a virgin only taking a little bit of dick?
very good analogy...!!!!
Or maybe like just being kinda' pregnant? I think that I'm starting to see the light.
Perhaps the collective intellect of Bayou, Kingston, Old Toot, and Sitka can explain how "sort of quarantining" contains a virus?
That would be a great read.
LOL
"Sort of quarantining" does not contain the virus any more than full quarantine does. What it does is reduce the spread to a rate medical facilities can handle. It also lowers "virus load" so when people get the virus they are not hammered by a huge dose. That allows normal immune systems to deal with the virus with little to no medical intervention.
We got ridiculously lucky with the fact there is now a drug therapy x2 offering remarkable effect on Corona viruses.
The only real argument is whether the lives saved were worth the shutdown and how soon should we open things back up. And in the current conditions the cost of staying shut down is too high. So the only real question is how to open things up.
Hilarious!
Bet you cannot name a single false statement...
People believe almost everything they say, you are no exception.
Please explain viral load and specify how social distancing reduces said load.
Now explain how the virus infecting said person who has been social distancing knows that said person has been social distancing and therefore reduces the viral load.
Seriously, where do people come up with this stuff?
Is it sort of like a virgin only taking a little bit of dick?
very good analogy...!!!!
Or maybe like just being kinda' pregnant? I think that I'm starting to see the light.
Please explain viral load and specify how social distancing reduces said load.
Now explain how the virus infecting said person who has been social distancing knows that said person has been social distancing and therefore reduces the viral load.
Seriously, where do people come up with this stuff?
The sheer depth of the stupidity involved in your question means I have to go back to very basic 1+1=2 level math.
I used a couple big words during my original post on this thread, but I thought adults were talking. Boy was I wrong on that!
"Second, and huge, is the fact lower numbers of cases and the social distancing reduced the viral load (titer, whatever label you prefer) making each individual's immune system better able to deal with the virus. In swamped areas patients got far heavier infections in far less time making it harder to fight.
Both of these items saved lives. The same number of people may come in contact with the virus but the severity will be reduced."
Now follow closely... In my state and area the virus is rare... If I pass the rare person carrying the virus and breath in some of the viruses they are spreading on their breath it is going to take a certain number of actual viruses to give me an infection. With some viruses it takes a lot, some very few. Usually 100 individual viruses is considered an average threshold but there is a huge range of conditions that can affect that positively or negatively.
Since there are so few cases in my area my chances of running into the virus is small and if I do the chances are it will be a small dose, a single time. My chances of being an asymptomatic carrier (if infected) are much higher and my virus output will probably be low.
But if I rode a train into NYC every day my chances of bumping into multiple, heavily infected people on a regular basis is far higher. Regardless of my personal conditions I would be far more likely to become infected, the viral load would be far more likely to be very high, and I will be far more likely to show symptoms and suffer more.
Now, applying that to the general population... more people carrying the virus in bigger crowds will likely lead to more people being infected sooner with a higher viral load. That average higher load and greater number of infected people will lead to more dead people.
Please explain viral load and specify how social distancing reduces said load.
Now explain how the virus infecting said person who has been social distancing knows that said person has been social distancing and therefore reduces the viral load.
Seriously, where do people come up with this stuff?
The sheer depth of the stupidity involved in your question means I have to go back to very basic 1+1=2 level math.
I used a couple big words during my original post on this thread, but I thought adults were talking. Boy was I wrong on that!
"Second, and huge, is the fact lower numbers of cases and the social distancing reduced the viral load (titer, whatever label you prefer) making each individual's immune system better able to deal with the virus. In swamped areas patients got far heavier infections in far less time making it harder to fight.
Both of these items saved lives. The same number of people may come in contact with the virus but the severity will be reduced."
Now follow closely... In my state and area the virus is rare... If I pass the rare person carrying the virus and breath in some of the viruses they are spreading on their breath it is going to take a certain number of actual viruses to give me an infection. With some viruses it takes a lot, some very few. Usually 100 individual viruses is considered an average threshold but there is a huge range of conditions that can affect that positively or negatively.
Since there are so few cases in my area my chances of running into the virus is small and if I do the chances are it will be a small dose, a single time. My chances of being an asymptomatic carrier (if infected) are much higher and my virus output will probably be low.
But if I rode a train into NYC every day my chances of bumping into multiple, heavily infected people on a regular basis is far higher. Regardless of my personal conditions I would be far more likely to become infected, the viral load would be far more likely to be very high, and I will be far more likely to show symptoms and suffer more.
Now, applying that to the general population... more people carrying the virus in bigger crowds will likely lead to more people being infected sooner with a higher viral load. That average higher load and greater number of infected people will lead to more dead people.
So just so I understand perfectly if I get Covid or the flu from one person I will be less I’ll than if I get it from two?
😏
It's a variation on the "different strains of covid are more deadly" bullshit.
Without regard to the 9 circles of stupidity contained in his other posts, this idiot is sayin that if you get sprayed with a lower number of germs than somebody else, your "version" of covid will be less lethal than if you'd received a bigger dose.
Desperate ways of tryin ta justify the shutdown insanity, in the face of the fact that covid is a relatively mild strain of a cold virus.
So just so I understand perfectly if I get Covid or the flu from one person I will be less I’ll than if I get it from two?
😏
It's a variation on the "different strains of covid are more deadly" bullshit.
Without regard to the 9 circles of stupidity contained in his other posts, this idiot is sayin that if you get sprayed with a lower number of germs than somebody else, your "version" of covid will be less lethal than if you'd received a bigger dose.
Desperate ways of tryin ta justify the shutdown insanity, in the face of the fact that covid is a relatively mild strain of a cold virus.
Most of the locals didn't give a chit and carried on business as usual. Schools, bars and restaurants were closed but pretty much every thing else was open.
You just described the entire country.
We were shocked how wide open and busy Havre was a month ago.
No one GAF.
My question is.
If Havre rolled up the sidewalks at noon instead of 8 PM...............
Okay....all I am saying is that I dont think the global killer Corona was as serious as originally reported.
Although maybe EVERYONE is lying about their numbers.
Like the moon landing.....
Dude,
that was so Made For TV it's hard to believe ANYONE fell for it.
Geno
PS believe it or not....................viral load is a real thing. To generalize, it takes a certain number of infectious units to overwhelm an organism's immune response.
PPS in other words, in a room of 25 folks I'd rather there only be one person shedding viral particles than 20. I'll be much less likely to pick up a "viral load" that will overcome the immune system
Ordered take out chicken chow mein, sweet n sour pork, almond chicken and spring rolls from the Kan Yon tonight. I went in bare back to pick it up, no gloves or mask. Its been nice knowing you fellas.
Oh, you've probably read enough of my posts now to know I'm not really a room full of people type of person.
Sometimes it's an unwelcome fact of life though.
I'd love to tell my retinal specialist to clear these fuggers out when I get here, but they'll have none of that. Bidness bein' bidness and what all, you know.
Oh, you've probably read enough of my posts now to know I'm not really a room full of people type of person.
Sometimes it's an unwelcome fact of life though.
I'd love to tell my retinal specialist to clear these fuggers out when I get here, but they'll have none of that. Bidness bein' bidness and what all, you know.
It’s a slippery slope, tomorrow night you’ll be ordering takeout from a gay bar.
Oh, you've probably read enough of my posts now to know I'm not really a room full of people type of person.
Sometimes it's an unwelcome fact of life though.
I'd love to tell my retinal specialist to clear these fuggers out when I get here, but they'll have none of that. Bidness bein' bidness and what all, you know.
It’s a slippery slope, tomorrow night you’ll be ordering takeout from a gay bar.
I suppose you dine in?
I'd have to drive a ways to find one of them places. None here in the Modoc that I know of.
When Kingston's hanging from a cross, blood coming from his side wearing a crown of thorns, someone PM me. I want the pic, insert the naked black dude and make an epic meme from it.
When Kingston's hanging from a cross, blood coming from his side wearing a crown of thorns, someone PM me. I want the pic, insert the naked black dude and make an epic meme from it.
[PS believe it or not....................viral load is a real thing. To generalize, it takes a certain number of infectious units to overwhelm an organism's immune response.
PPS in other words, in a room of 25 folks I'd rather there only be one person shedding viral particles than 20. I'll be much less likely to pick up a "viral load" that will overcome the immune system
Wrong.
Viral load is a medical term, but it is a unit of measurement that refers to the amount of virus RNA contained in a milliliter of blood.
In theory, it measures how "sick" you are. But the term has been perverted by Covid hysterics to attempt to portray Covid as more deadly.
Infectious dose is the term you were looking for.
When a person receives the necessary infectious dose, they get infected. Works the same way for every germ.
And it wouldn't matter if they got double the infectious dose.
Nobody knows yet what the infectious dose for Covid is.
[PS believe it or not....................viral load is a real thing. To generalize, it takes a certain number of infectious units to overwhelm an organism's immune response.
PPS in other words, in a room of 25 folks I'd rather there only be one person shedding viral particles than 20. I'll be much less likely to pick up a "viral load" that will overcome the immune system
Wrong.
Viral load is a medical term, but it is a unit of measurement that refers to the amount of virus RNA contained in a milliliter of blood.
In theory, it measures how "sick" you are. But the term has been perverted by Covid hysterics to attempt to portray Covid as more deadly.
Infectious dose is the term you were looking for.
When a person receives the necessary infectious dose, they get infected. Works the same way for every germ.
And it wouldn't matter if they got double the infectious dose.
Nobody knows yet what the infectious dose for Covid is.
[PS believe it or not....................viral load is a real thing. To generalize, it takes a certain number of infectious units to overwhelm an organism's immune response.
PPS in other words, in a room of 25 folks I'd rather there only be one person shedding viral particles than 20. I'll be much less likely to pick up a "viral load" that will overcome the immune system
Wrong.
Viral load is a medical term, but it is a unit of measurement that refers to the amount of virus RNA contained in a milliliter of blood.
In theory, it measures how "sick" you are. But the term has been perverted by Covid hysterics to attempt to portray Covid as more deadly.
Infectious dose is the term you were looking for.
When a person receives the necessary infectious dose, they get infected. Works the same way for every germ.
And it wouldn't matter if they got double the infectious dose.
Nobody knows yet what the infectious dose for Covid is.
Please re-read my statement. You are correct that "viral load" is a medical term (in animal medicine too, which is what I'm more familiar with) but one will not get that "viral load" without being exposed to
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a certain number of infectious units
. In other words an "Infectious dose".
It was all there for you to see. I'll admit to not making it 100% clear to all.
The CDC website indicates U.S. death totals for 2015 through 2020 for the first four months of the year average (Jan – Apr) to be at 921,603. This year the total deaths during this period were 944,251 which is slightly more than average but slightly less than the number of deaths in 2017:
The CDC website indicates U.S. death totals for 2015 through 2020 for the first four months of the year average (Jan – Apr) to be at 921,603. This year the total deaths during this period were 944,251 which is slightly more than average but slightly less than the number of deaths in 2017:
The CDC website indicates U.S. death totals for 2015 through 2020 for the first four months of the year average (Jan – Apr) to be at 921,603. This year the total deaths during this period were 944,251 which is slightly more than average but slightly less than the number of deaths in 2017:
What’s the reporting lag? Is this years number final or subject to revision?
I posted similar numbers in that thread we went back and forth on last week. IIRC, those numbers were not final and had a significant lag, but the delta was very similar to yours (low 20k).
Maybe globally, people will start to admit that Trump was right about China. China didn’t just fück us, they fücked everyone.
Yep, they f-cked everyone. But, corporations desire for greater profit, in the name of lower costs, pushed many to send production (and jobs) to China.
The CDC website indicates U.S. death totals for 2015 through 2020 for the first four months of the year average (Jan – Apr) to be at 921,603. This year the total deaths during this period were 944,251 which is slightly more than average but slightly less than the number of deaths in 2017:
What’s the reporting lag? Is this years number final or subject to revision?
I posted similar numbers in that thread we went back and forth on last week. IIRC, those numbers were not final and had a significant lag, but the delta was very similar to yours (low 20k).
I believe at the end of the day, the total deaths is the only way to get a clear picture of how bad the "covid" will be. We are being lied to. Then again next year it can start up again and again...... unless they find a vaccine.... they have never successfully developed a vaccine for a covid virus I believe Life is full of dangers..... maybe lose some weight and exercise and prepare the best you can.... or not...... this thing may "cure" old age....
Maybe globally, people will start to admit that Trump was right about China. China didn’t just fück us, they fücked everyone.
Yep, they f-cked everyone. But, corporations desire for greater profit, in the name of lower costs, pushed many to send production (and jobs) to China.
Or maybe trade deals by politicians? or maybe high cost of business in the U.S. due to regulation, unions, tax's etc...... business does what it needs to survive and make money... Didn't you work for .gov? why yes you did..... that makes you part of the problem.... you stupid sob
Maybe globally, people will start to admit that Trump was right about China. China didn’t just fück us, they fücked everyone.
Yep, they f-cked everyone. But, corporations desire for greater profit, in the name of lower costs, pushed many to send production (and jobs) to China.
Yeah ...Dumbass Americans passing over USA made products to buy cheap [bleep] Chinese junk didn't fuel that move at all...... or unions pushing inefficient practices and unsustainable salaries and benefits, or dumbass libs choking the [bleep] out of industry with oppressive, feel good/solve nothing regulations. But keep on thinking It's those evil corporations that caused all this.
Maybe globally, people will start to admit that Trump was right about China. China didn’t just fück us, they fücked everyone.
Yep, they f-cked everyone. But, corporations desire for greater profit, in the name of lower costs, pushed many to send production (and jobs) to China.
Yeah ...Dumbass Americans passing over USA made products to buy cheap [bleep] Chinese junk didn't fuel that move at all...... or unions pushing inefficient practices and unsustainable salaries and benefits, or dumbass libs choking the [bleep] out of industry with oppressive, feel good/solve nothing regulations. But keep on thinking It's those evil corporations that caused all this.
Ya know Jack, that stupid djs blames more profit by greedy corporations as the cause.... yet he is in the top 1% and achieved this working for government! guess it was ok for him to pursue profits... from the tax payer. He is the problem..... People like him are destroying our country and trying to blame it on others!
Ya know Jack, that stupid djs blames more profit by greedy corporations as the cause.... yet he is in the top 1% and achieved this working for government! guess it was ok for him to pursue profits... from the tax payer. He is the problem..... People like him are destroying our country and trying to blame it on others!
Class envy is a terrible thing.....
djs must have been pretty smart and hard working to rise so high. he would have done fine where ever he went.
Ya know Jack, that stupid djs blames more profit by greedy corporations as the cause.... yet he is in the top 1% and achieved this working for government! guess it was ok for him to pursue profits... from the tax payer. He is the problem..... People like him are destroying our country and trying to blame it on others!
Class envy is a terrible thing.....
djs must have been pretty smart and hard working to rise so high. he would have done fine where ever he went.
you could have followed his path.
don't complain now that you didn't.
Your ignorance is showing...... no envy here Suckitmore..... I made my money the honest old fashioned way..... hard work and smart investing... in the competitive private sector....
I am a conservative, I do not envy anyone.... I admire a bunch of folks though. Big difference.
Tell us about your government job?
Post a few pic's... include home, hunting, fishing and outdoor pic's please.... of course you won't do that, because you have accomplished nothing to be proud of.
Another clue for you Suckitmore..... I retired from working at 51 yrs old..... but I still make money... hahahahahhaha
Ya know Jack, that stupid djs blames more profit by greedy corporations as the cause.... yet he is in the top 1% and achieved this working for government! guess it was ok for him to pursue profits... from the tax payer. He is the problem..... People like him are destroying our country and trying to blame it on others!
Class envy is a terrible thing.....
djs must have been pretty smart and hard working to rise so high. he would have done fine where ever he went.
you could have followed his path.
don't complain now that you didn't.
Only one thing helps you rise through the ranks of the public sector.... Sucking cock, and sucking it damn good. I bet djs and sickemwhore are at top tier levels.
Ya know Jack, that stupid djs blames more profit by greedy corporations as the cause.... yet he is in the top 1% and achieved this working for government! guess it was ok for him to pursue profits... from the tax payer. He is the problem..... People like him are destroying our country and trying to blame it on others!
Class envy is a terrible thing.....
djs must have been pretty smart and hard working to rise so high. he would have done fine where ever he went.
you could have followed his path.
don't complain now that you didn't.
Only one thing helps you rise through the ranks of the public sector.... Sucking cock, and sucking it damn good. I bet djs and sickemwhore are at top tier levels.
Yep Jack, and these parasite cocksuuckers are telling us we are the problem....
Ya know Jack, that stupid djs blames more profit by greedy corporations as the cause.... yet he is in the top 1% and achieved this working for government! guess it was ok for him to pursue profits... from the tax payer. He is the problem..... People like him are destroying our country and trying to blame it on others!
Class envy is a terrible thing.....
djs must have been pretty smart and hard working to rise so high. he would have done fine where ever he went.
you could have followed his path.
don't complain now that you didn't.
Only one thing helps you rise through the ranks of the public sector.... Sucking cock, and sucking it damn good. I bet djs and sickemwhore are at top tier levels.
Yep Jack, and these parasite cocksuuckers are telling us we are the problem....
Of course we are. Liberals hate anyone that doesn't need to rely on govt to provide for them. I'd be bitter too if I had to live every day with the knowledge that without someone else's insight, labor and risk, I wouldn't be able to provide for myself and my family. Probably tough to look into your wife and children's eyes knowing what a pathetic failure they must think you are.
Ya know Jack, that stupid djs blames more profit by greedy corporations as the cause.... yet he is in the top 1% and achieved this working for government! guess it was ok for him to pursue profits... from the tax payer. He is the problem..... People like him are destroying our country and trying to blame it on others!
Class envy is a terrible thing.....
djs must have been pretty smart and hard working to rise so high. he would have done fine where ever he went.
you could have followed his path.
don't complain now that you didn't.
Your ignorance is showing...... no envy here Suckitmore..... I made my money the honest old fashioned way..... hard work and smart investing... in the competitive private sector....
I am a conservative, I do not envy anyone.... I admire a bunch of folks though. Big difference.
Tell us about your government job?
Post a few pic's... include home, hunting, fishing and outdoor pic's please.... of course you won't do that, because you have accomplished nothing to be proud of.
Another clue for you Suckitmore..... I retired from working at 51 yrs old..... but I still make money... hahahahahhaha
he's retired and you're retired, and you're the one bitching about how he did it. you could have done it the same way. He's not bitching about how you did yours.
hard work, good choices and good luck.
plenty of people try to get through life, some do well. the more hard work, good choices and good luck, the better you do.
when you're born, where you're born, and who your parents are helps a lot. (good luck)
some folks have all that going for them and don't make it. some have none of it going for them and make it anyway.
some hard workers have been derailed by one bad choice, or one piece of bad luck.
pointless and childish to put up your success against someone else's, even your twin. they're still not you.
I'm content with the life I have and where I live. I wouldn't move to a different town for more money. If I won the lottery I wouldn't change my house.
Next time you're in Arizona, I'll buy you a cup of coffee. If I like ya, I 'll let you help me paint my fence, at 7000 feet ASL
Ya know Jack, that stupid djs blames more profit by greedy corporations as the cause.... yet he is in the top 1% and achieved this working for government! guess it was ok for him to pursue profits... from the tax payer. He is the problem..... People like him are destroying our country and trying to blame it on others!
Class envy is a terrible thing.....
djs must have been pretty smart and hard working to rise so high. he would have done fine where ever he went.
you could have followed his path.
don't complain now that you didn't.
Your ignorance is showing...... no envy here Suckitmore..... I made my money the honest old fashioned way..... hard work and smart investing... in the competitive private sector....
I am a conservative, I do not envy anyone.... I admire a bunch of folks though. Big difference.
Tell us about your government job?
Post a few pic's... include home, hunting, fishing and outdoor pic's please.... of course you won't do that, because you have accomplished nothing to be proud of.
Another clue for you Suckitmore..... I retired from working at 51 yrs old..... but I still make money... hahahahahhaha
he's retired and you're retired, and you're the one bitching about how he did it. you could have done it the same way. He's not bitching about how you did yours.
hard work, good choices and good luck.
plenty of people try to get through life, some do well. the more hard work, good choices and good luck, the better you do.
when you're born, where you're born, and who your parents are helps a lot. (good luck)
some folks have all that going for them and don't make it. some have none of it going for them and make it anyway.
some hard workers have been derailed by one bad choice, or one piece of bad luck.
pointless and childish to put up your success against someone else's, even your twin. they're still not you.
I'm content with the life I have and where I live. I wouldn't move to a different town for more money. If I won the lottery I wouldn't change my house.
Next time you're in Arizona, I'll buy you a cup of coffee. If I like ya, I 'll let you help me paint my fence, at 7000 feet ASL
You misunderstand me completely. I am not envious of djs and what he has.
As I have stated I have been the victim of worthless know nothing bureaucrats. I despise them and their pettiness.
As Jack said , to rise through the ranks of bureaucracy you need to be a snake, a cock sucking pos, unlike a self made man in the private sector, he answers to customers and works harder and smarter than the competition. Bureaucrats have no accountability.
To be clear I have no issue with the average government employee, many work hard, the same as the rest of us. If they are offered a great benefit & pay package they would be a fool not to take it.
Where I part ways is when they think they accomplished something great, the nature of government work and union work is nobody accomplish's anything great. Is what it is.
As far as a cup of coffee, thanks but no thanks.... I value my time to much to spend it with liberals.
And what does the elevation of your residents have to do with a damn thing? I have lived at a relatively high elevation my entire life, What am I missing?
I see the believers are still hard at work. Doing their best to convince everyone that they aren't retards and shouldn't be shot in the back of the head.
Ya know Jack, that stupid djs blames more profit by greedy corporations as the cause.... yet he is in the top 1% and achieved this working for government! guess it was ok for him to pursue profits... from the tax payer. He is the problem..... People like him are destroying our country and trying to blame it on others!
djs must have been pretty smart and hard working to rise so high.
The whole country comes to a halt over the cold and half of the “conservatives “ on the campfire [bleep] in their depends.. I still can’t wrap my head around it.
On the bright side investing has been easy and profitable.
I see the believers are still hard at work. Doing their best to convince everyone that they aren't retards and shouldn't be shot in the back of the head.
LOL.
Yap, yap, yap.
How many people need to die before you will admit it is for real. Why don't you pick a number?
I see the believers are still hard at work. Doing their best to convince everyone that they aren't retards and shouldn't be shot in the back of the head.
LOL.
Yap, yap, yap.
How many people need to die before you will admit it is for real. Why don't you pick a number?
2.2 - 2.6 million isn’t that what the first estimates we’re supposed to be??? It’s real but the hysteria is also real. Real BS!!!
The whole country comes to a halt over the cold and half of the “conservatives “ on the campfire [bleep] in their depends.. I still can’t wrap my head around it.
On the bright side investing has been easy and profitable.
No s.hit . It seems like the twilight zone or something. Am I crotchety old man now?
I see the believers are still hard at work. Doing their best to convince everyone that they aren't retards and shouldn't be shot in the back of the head.
LOL.
Yap, yap, yap.
How many people need to die before you will admit it is for real. Why don't you pick a number?
2.2 - 2.6 million isn’t that what the first estimates we’re supposed to be??? It’s real but the hysteria is also real. Real BS!!!
Agree on the hysteria. The 60K estimate wasn't worth much either.
I see the believers are still hard at work. Doing their best to convince everyone that they aren't retards and shouldn't be shot in the back of the head.
LOL.
This thing ain't ever gonna end.
JeffO is more likely ta admit President Trump hasn't been impeached yet, than it is for the belibbers ta admit the bologna virus isn't the end of the world.
A mystery origin, animals, tear jerkin stories bout victims, with bullshit science throwed in, puts liberals in a state of suspended intellimation, and a helluva large percentage won't ever come out.
Bald eagles and DDT.
Overpopulation.
Global warming.
Y2K.
Climate change (which is a separate category from GW, because the few that figured out GW was bullshit got pulled in again by climate change).
They still believe. And, as they've demonstrated in this very thread, they'll always believe.
And, just as always, they'll get pissy if ya slap em with common sense or facts.
As you correctly observed early in the thread, the objective is to expose those liberals that can't be trusted to reason.
Hoping to resolve differences or get liberals to recognize their errors at this point is a noble cause, but experience argues that it will not occur.
Turns out the Fluhan lab shut down in October, not December.
Cell phone data suggests the roads around the Wuhan lab was shut down for a number of days in October. This was around the same time of the expected viral release.
Turns out the Fluhan lab shut down in October, not December.
Cell phone data suggests the roads around the Wuhan lab was shut down for a number of days in October. This was around the same time of the expected viral release.
Turns out the Fluhan lab shut down in October, not December.
Cell phone data suggests the roads around the Wuhan lab was shut down for a number of days in October. This was around the same time of the expected viral release.
Turns out the Fluhan lab shut down in October, not December.
Cell phone data suggests the roads around the Wuhan lab was shut down for a number of days in October. This was around the same time of the expected viral release.
Turns out the Fluhan lab shut down in October, not December.
Cell phone data suggests the roads around the Wuhan lab was shut down for a number of days in October. This was around the same time of the expected viral release.
Turns out the Fluhan lab shut down in October, not December.
Cell phone data suggests the roads around the Wuhan lab was shut down for a number of days in October. This was around the same time of the expected viral release.
Turns out the Fluhan lab shut down in October, not December.
Cell phone data suggests the roads around the Wuhan lab was shut down for a number of days in October. This was around the same time of the expected viral release.
Not that the virus coulda possibly got to the US before January, LOL.
Chinese cell phone records?
You is gullible enough ta believe in Covid.
So, I figure you're gullible enough ta believe this.
“So, again, first, we need to verify these reports, the cell phone data say what these media reports indicate, and then we need to use other sources to try to confirm what they suggest, which is, those roads were shut down. And if that’s the case, if roads were shut down around these laboratories for several days in mid-October, then we need to figure out exactly why, because it’s simply another piece of circumstantial evidence that would support the idea that this virus originated from one of those labs.” -Senator, Tom Cotton
We had a guy in Boise test positive for antibodies. He was sick in November. Now, he may have caught it later and been asymptomatic, but we will never know. I do know that there was some nasty stuff in November in the Seattle hospitals, but they would not have tested for it then. Many nurses were out.
Not at all. I think the U.S.A. will get through the covid just fine. The economy too.
That's a relief.
May I ask what it is that you do for a living?
Please don't misinterpret my post. I believe the virus will be disruptive to the economy (with or without the shutdown) and a bunch of folks are going to feel it, just like a bunch of folks are going to die from it. The economy will come back (it won't be like the 30's), and the rest will move on without those they lost, the country will be just fine.
Seems like some on this site were trivializing the virus, figured that was ignoring the pain that is coming. Maybe I was wrong.
You can ask what I do for a living, but I'll not say.
Ummm..Unlike the .475,the Covid 19 is popular..Here to stay and kills us old folks/young folks and in between/ and is found in sperm..Hope Able don't get it...
550 grains at 1300 fps in 7.5 inches...Not a .475 but a BFR-45-70..LOL
Ummm..Unlike the .475,the Covid 19 is popular..Here to stay and kills us old folks/young folks and in between/ and is found in sperm..Hope Able don't get it...
550 grains at 1300 fps in 7.5 inches...Not a .475 but a BFR-45-70..LOL
Logjammer,
When you fell off the wagon, did you hit your head?
When you fell off the wagon, did you hit your head?
Wanna shoot my BFR 45-70 with the 550 grainers..That load is not max and checked out of a pressure barrel by one you would never question...It's a hoot to shoot and very accurate..
When you fell off the wagon, did you hit your head?
Wanna shoot my BFR 45-70 with the 550 grainers..That load is not max and checked out of a pressure barrel by one you would never question...It's a hoot to shoot and very accurate..
Cool..Next time your in these parts,give me a whistle..When it come to the 45-70,I had two ammo and bullet makers checking pressure data of different loads for kicks...I enjoyed the heck out of it and the two guys that were curious also and with pressure equipment..If everything is right,brass etc..The 45-70 is capable of some awesome numbers within the rated CUP/PSI as the .450Marlin...Some manufacturers produce ammo over that based on there test and the Marlin action..But it is amazing just what you can get with the right powder/brass and bullet..It was totally interesting to me to see the numbers..
You can shoot my BFR..But if you touch my dog.......
Flave, you do realize he is talking about his COCK.
Originally Posted by logcutter
Cool..Next time your in these parts,give me a whistle..When it come to the 45-70,I had two ammo and bullet makers checking pressure data of different loads for kicks...I enjoyed the heck out of it and the two guys that were curious also and with pressure equipment..If everything is right,brass etc..The 45-70 is capable of some awesome numbers within the rated CUP/PSI as the .450Marlin...Some manufacturers produce ammo over that based on there test and the Marlin action..But it is amazing just what you can get with the right powder/brass and bullet..It was totally interesting to me to see the numbers..
You can shoot my BFR..But if you touch my dog.......
LOL
When you read that paragraph in that context, it’s fckn hilarious...
These two identical twin sisters both drank from a cup used by a person infected with COVID-19. Same DNA, one tested positive for the coronavirus, the other one didn’t. Still think the government isn’t involved...
These two identical twin sisters both drank from a cup used by a person infected with COVID-19. Same DNA, one tested positive for the coronavirus, the other one didn’t. Still think the government isn’t involved...
What, some 80,000+ dead in just at 8 weeks, those that don't think its real never will, until it hits them. The rest will continue to wonder what the [bleep] is wrong with all those people.
What, some 80,000+ dead in just at 8 weeks, those that don't think its real never will, until it hits them. The rest will continue to wonder what the [bleep] is wrong with all those people.
Phil
Gay ghost? Has this hit you? 80k!!! #thisisreal -#viralload
What, some 80,000+ dead in just at 8 weeks, those that don't think its real never will, until it hits them. The rest will continue to wonder what the [bleep] is wrong with all those people.
Phil
Originally Posted by Greyghost
What, some 80,000+ dead in just at 8 weeks, those that don't think its real never will, until it hits them. The rest will continue to wonder what the [bleep] is wrong with all those people.
Phil
Died of what? 7800 people die on average every single day in the United States. If/When the true numbers come out, we will see. If Flu and other causes of death dropped disproportionately, we'll know the numbers are cooked. If the Flu deaths and other causes of death numbers remain relatively close to the average over the last couple years, we'll know the numbers were real. Even simpler, if the average amount of deaths per day in the U.S. increases by roughly the same number as deaths attributed to the Covid over the last two months, we'll know we werent duped. I think theres a better chance of Kim Jong-Un spending a night in the Lincoln bedroom as Trumps guest than that happening. At this point, It's really not debatable that there are deaths being incorrectly contributed to Covid19, how many is the real question.
I would still like an explanation f rom all the deniers of why Donald Trump(who you elected) would destroy his own economy. You try and blame it all on the media and communists. He was on tv everyday stating how bad it could be and what we needed to do. I personally believe it was over blown but with nothing to go by how should he have reacted? Ed k
I would still like an explanation f rom all the deniers of why Donald Trump(who you elected) would destroy his own economy. You try and blame it all on the media and communists. He was on tv everyday stating how bad it could be and what we needed to do. I personally believe it was over blown but with nothing to go by how should he have reacted? Ed k
I have explained this many times.
If you are not reading my posts I suggest you start.
I’d die of old age before I could read all of your posts. LOL. Is there any other posters wanting to tell me how it works. Edk
Ok.
Just for you.
Fear came first. Not the virus. Not death. Fear.
It was spread day and night until it started to reach critical height. Up until the point that the NBA postponed their season, everybody was on the same page. Democrats and Republicans. Take some light measures, but overall everything will be fine.
When the NBA postponed their season, the media latched onto that and spun it as a self-sacrificing measure. As if the NBA had done this for the greater good. The reality was that they did it for financial reasons because the 24/7/365 news cycle had begun to do it's job. It scared everybody schitless.
This was around the same time that Spring Break states began closing beaches and schools and asking spring breakers to not come in droves. Maybe a bit extreme, but not horribly reckless. Especially given the fact that for most families, we were all just getting an additional five days tacked onto to our spring break. Not a tough pill to swallow.
That is when the media went after any politician so hard that non-conformity resulted in their approval numbers dropping like a rock.
I've stated many times, this is not a medical problem. It's a political one. And it is (frankly) a masterpiece on the part of the left. Because they drummed up enough fear in the populace to cause politicians to conform, and to do so with no real exit strategy.
If you spend a few minutes on the internets you will find all the quotes from both the left and the right saying this was a nothing. Including Fauci and Scarf. It's only AFTER the fear got a grip, that you saw stories change for the purposes of political survival.
In its most simple form, Trump and his team were painted into a corner. They got outmaneuvered.
What, some 80,000+ dead in just at 8 weeks, those that don't think its real never will, until it hits them. The rest will continue to wonder what the [bleep] is wrong with all those people.
Phil
You may want to watch Dassa's video. It explains exactly how they are doing the counting. You're welcome.
I would still like an explanation f rom all the deniers of why Donald Trump(who you elected) would destroy his own economy. You try and blame it all on the media and communists. He was on tv everyday stating how bad it could be and what we needed to do. I personally believe it was over blown but with nothing to go by how should he have reacted? Ed k
What, some 80,000+ dead in just at 8 weeks, those that don't think its real never will, until it hits them. The rest will continue to wonder what the [bleep] is wrong with all those people.
Phil
You may want to watch Dassa's video. It explains exactly how they are doing the counting. You're welcome.
Even with that disgusting ketchup hand pump that Corky sorta cleans.
Dude!
That right there is the epitome of inducement of HERD IMMUNITY!
bring on the HERD IMMUNITY.....................
soon please.
we need help,
Travis has been stuck on The Corona for too long. FFS, he's even starting threads about Netfizz films. He needs some relief from shelter in place.........and not the type you get at the peep show.
Let's hear it for the Corkys of the world.................doing there best to bring about the HERD IMMUNITY!
Travis has been stuck on The Corona for too long. FFS, he's even starting threads about Netfizz films. He needs some relief from shelter in place.........and not the type you get at the peep show.
If you want to see an amazing film, watch Deathsport on amazon prime.
no more money on the TV shows. I'm pissed because I have to get the sports package on our satellite feed just to get the feed from the HOCKEY team that's a 7 hr drive away. It's blacked out on the NHL.com. Seems 300+ miles is still in their "Market". Like I'm just gonna up and decide "I'm going to the game" on a weekday afternoon and make the drive through the mountains and then through the Bay Area traffic parking lot just to see a game.
Fuggers.
I will mention it to "the Boss" though. She spends more on the Amazon than I do, maybe I can talk her into the Prime.
What, some 80,000+ dead in just at 8 weeks, those that don't think its real never will, until it hits them. The rest will continue to wonder what the [bleep] is wrong with all those people.
Phil
You may want to watch Dassa's video. It explains exactly how they are doing the counting. You're welcome.
It has been a while since anybody reminded you all of how stupid and gullible you were.
If you have a job, please ask your HR reps what the new CDC guidance is for your getting the Bologna Fart Virus and returning to work.
LOL
Contractor at work today told me that him and his wife and kids came down with the Rona a while back. They wouldn’t let him come back to work until he had 3, yes THREE, consecutive negative tests. Against the law for HR to ask if you have AIDS but they can ban you from doing your job and make you prove that you don’t have the Chink cold.
Contractor at work today told me that him and his wife and kids came down with the Rona a while back. They wouldn’t let him come back to work until he had 3, yes THREE, consecutive negative tests. Against the law for HR to ask if you have AIDS but they can ban you from doing your job and make you prove that you don’t have the Chink cold.
Me and my supervisor got sent home for 5 days a couple weeks ago because.....
One of our coworkers had a headache. Headache is on the CDC list of “symptoms” so they ordered him to get a test and since we share an office we had to “isolate” until he got his results back.
They wanted us to burn sick leave and the supervisor, who’s been there 37 years and literally has 550 days of leave built up threw a fit and told them they were paying us and not counting it against us or we were coming to work.
People still acting like retards around here according to my brother. He went to town today and said there was people all over the place swamping grocery stores. It's going to spread like wild fire because of peoples stupidity. Most should have plenty of food and toilet paper to last for months by now. I haven't left the mountain here in over a week and don't intend to for quite some time. Wondering if there'll be dead bodies all over the streets and sidewalks when I finally do. If there are, It'll be their own damn stupid fault.
The Rona has been fascinating to watch. It has such broader parallel analogy (metaphor) with the whole of society...
I guess early on... many people fell in some trance... and simply will not un-trance themselves... maybe because fear is comfortable in some pathetic lifeless kinda way vs. the pitiful "bought and sold" life they have otherwise.
Really I don't know anymore, but watching this once great Nation rot to nothingness... like an old house/cabin in the woods (abandoned because someone got a condo and a "city job")... is truly heartbreaking.
Like abandoning protein/meat for candy... because buckets of sugar tastes better than... steak?
My son had a BFF when he was in Elementary school... Peas in a pod kinda BFFs... I was always Uncle Leonard to this young lady... they moved... Her parents divorced and are embroiled in a beyond stupid 7-8 year custody battle.
She called me the other day just to say "Hi"/talk (suicidal?)... her phone died at 4 hours.
My wife and I invited her for a weekend visit "anytime/anywhere"...
She will spend this weekend with us... great kid.
I suspect (50%+ likely) I will be hauled into court in a week or two (by her mom) for not being Vaxed and exposing this BFF of my son... to the 100% certain death of the Rona...
It really is shattering to see the real time... slow motion implosion... of this once great nation...
The pain that is to follow (for most)... will be a million times more lethal than Rona, but people simple can't see it... or simply refuse to see it... because there is "Free Candy" EVERYWHERE.
FWIW... NO, I do not plan to sniff her hair... Would You?
The overly educated wordsmiths, got brainwashed early on. If a PHD says it’s true, it has to be….blah blah
Add MD's to that list.
Went in to see pulmonologist for yearly visit. Everything good? Yeah.
Have you been vaxed? Nope.
Why not? Don't believe in it. Nothing against vaccines in general. Don't want to expose myself to known side effects. I take Ivermectin once a week, follow FLCC protocol, and I know where the monoclonal antibodies site is near me, 2 miles from my house.
Went to the doctor yesterday for routine physical. Doc asked if I was vaccinated and I said No and have zero interest in it. I said I have had Covid in 2020. I was directly exposed to Covid 3 weeks ago and didn’t get sick. Doc said I should still get the shot. Again I said no. Doc about went sideways… 😂
"Quantitative proteomics reveals a broad‐spectrum antiviral property of ivermectin, benefiting for COVID‐19 treatment"
CONFLICT OF INTERESTS The authors have declared that no competing interests exist.
Go to: AUTHOR CONTRIBUTIONS Na Li performed SILAC cell experiments, analyzed the data, prepared figures and tables, and drafted the manuscript. Lingfeng Zhao participated in bioinformatics analysis. Xianquan Zhan conceived the concept, guided experiments and data analysis, supervised results, wrote and critically revised the manuscript, and was responsible for the financial supports and corresponding works. All authors approved the final manuscript.
ACKNOWLEDGMENTS This study was supported by the Shandong First Medical University Talent Introduction Funds (to X.Z.), and the Hunan Provincial Hundred Talent Plan (to X.Z.).
Go to: Notes Li N, Zhao L, Zhan X. Quantitative proteomics reveals a broad‐spectrum antiviral property of ivermectin, benefiting for COVID‐19 treatment. J Cell Physiol. 2020;1–17. 10.1002/jcp.30055
"Quantitative proteomics reveals a broad‐spectrum antiviral property of ivermectin, benefiting for COVID‐19 treatment"
CONFLICT OF INTERESTS The authors have declared that no competing interests exist.
Go to: AUTHOR CONTRIBUTIONS Na Li performed SILAC cell experiments, analyzed the data, prepared figures and tables, and drafted the manuscript. Lingfeng Zhao participated in bioinformatics analysis. Xianquan Zhan conceived the concept, guided experiments and data analysis, supervised results, wrote and critically revised the manuscript, and was responsible for the financial supports and corresponding works. All authors approved the final manuscript.
ACKNOWLEDGMENTS This study was supported by the Shandong First Medical University Talent Introduction Funds (to X.Z.), and the Hunan Provincial Hundred Talent Plan (to X.Z.).
Go to: Notes Li N, Zhao L, Zhan X. Quantitative proteomics reveals a broad‐spectrum antiviral property of ivermectin, benefiting for COVID‐19 treatment. J Cell Physiol. 2020;1–17. 10.1002/jcp.30055
Relax.
You can still keep pretending that covid is something to worry about.
People still acting like retards around here according to my brother. He went to town today and said there was people all over the place swamping grocery stores. It's going to spread like wild fire because of peoples stupidity. Most should have plenty of food and toilet paper to last for months by now. I haven't left the mountain here in over a week and don't intend to for quite some time. Wondering if there'll be dead bodies all over the streets and sidewalks when I finally do. If there are, It'll be their own damn stupid fault.
The overly educated wordsmiths, got brainwashed early on. If a PHD says it’s true, it has to be….blah blah
Add MD's to that list.
Went in to see pulmonologist for yearly visit. Everything good? Yeah.
Have you been vaxed? Nope.
Why not? Don't believe in it. Nothing against vaccines in general. Don't want to expose myself to known side effects. I take Ivermectin once a week, follow FLCC protocol, and I know where the monoclonal antibodies site is near me, 2 miles from my house.
Yah dee yah dee yah da.
Me: What happened to "My Body, My Choice"?
Doc: I don't want to talk about this anymore.
Me: Me either.
See ya next year.
Lol.
Tuesday, I listened to the Joe Rogan podcast with Sanjay Gupta. Gupta might actually believe the nonsense he's selling. It's insane.
I’ve lost a LOT of respect for doctors over this. Many of em’ have wiped their ass with the oath that they took to “first, do no harm.”
First of all, They refuse to acknowledge or admit that deep down, they're still capitalists. If they truly gave a schit, they'd be researching outside of their bubble for the truth, and they're NOT doing that. I've been saying it here for a while that they are part of the problem.
This is a text I received from one of my tenants less than 2 hours ago. This is EXACTLY what I'm talking about.
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Hey I was supposed to call u I have covid I went to hospital they send me home to Quarantine so if it's ok with u on December 17 I will definitely pay u the rest of the money when I can talk am short of breath.
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Not a single word from doctor or hospital about implementing any kind of initial protocol after positive for covid.
The overly educated wordsmiths, got brainwashed early on. If a PHD says it’s true, it has to be….blah blah
Add MD's to that list.
Went in to see pulmonologist for yearly visit. Everything good? Yeah.
Have you been vaxed? Nope.
Why not? Don't believe in it. Nothing against vaccines in general. Don't want to expose myself to known side effects. I take Ivermectin once a week, follow FLCC protocol, and I know where the monoclonal antibodies site is near me, 2 miles from my house.
Yah dee yah dee yah da.
Me: What happened to "My Body, My Choice"?
Doc: I don't want to talk about this anymore.
Me: Me either.
See ya next year.
Lol.
Tuesday, I listened to the Joe Rogan podcast with Sanjay Gupta. Gupta might actually believe the nonsense he's selling. It's insane.
I think Joe Rogan's been smoking crack the last week or so, along with the guests he's had on.
Not to make excuses for doctors, but most of them are being ground up by managed care. They don't have lots of free time to fact check the CDC, NIH, and FDA. This coupled with the fact that they've never really needed to before is proving to be a disaster.
Tell us about how mountains are formed, from the heights of KCMO!
Cut and paste your cross section from I-70 to show us you don't know what you are talking about.
Your google-fu is weak, but your understanding of geology is weaker.
Maybe you should get a shot. of something.
Tell us about your beliefs in Zero, Hilry, and Biteme. Tell us your beliefs open borders,higher taxes,lockdowns, masks, high oil and electric and food prices and how supply chain shortages and how cheap fentanyl and sex trafficked kids are good for the US.
Go phugk yourself, moron. You're too stupid to understand the meaning of my post. Which is, young and dumb'ers here and about the internet have no respect - Period. Truth is, at 65, 2 years removed from open heart surgery, walking around with cancer, and a titanium plate in my chest, I'd still probably walk all over them and YOU.
Come get some. I'm outside every day painting my big ass house by myself in the south FL heat. Let's see how long you last.
You're just another internet big mouth.
Gees even Local Dirt was hangry back then.. Everyone was on edge.. But me and LD are good these days. I forgive you LD for being a internet bully to nugget.
Go phugk yourself, moron. You're too stupid to understand the meaning of my post. Which is, young and dumb'ers here and about the internet have no respect - Period. Truth is, at 65, 2 years removed from open heart surgery, walking around with cancer, and a titanium plate in my chest, I'd still probably walk all over them and YOU.
Come get some. I'm outside every day painting my big ass house by myself in the south FL heat. Let's see how long you last.
You're just another internet big mouth.
Gees even Local Dirt was hangry back then.. Everyone was on edge.. But me and LD are good these days. I forgive you LD for being a internet bully to nugget.
Suckitmore was and always will be a Dumocrat boy toy. LD is Good to go
The covtards should be proud, they helped install him
That's a fact. I brought my Dad to the hospital because I thought he was having a stroke and they won't admit him because he wasn't vaccinated. Lots of people died because the medical professionals wouldn't do their job.
The covtards should be proud, they helped install him
That's a fact. I brought my Dad to the hospital because I thought he was having a stroke and they won't admit him because he wasn't vaccinated. Lots of people died because the medical professionals wouldn't do their job.
Honk for Joey real loud and proud all you stoooopid fuuuuuuking Liberal Socialist Democrats on here. Cause their ain't no other fuuuuuuuking designation for you.
No matter how you try to spin or justify schyt in your fuuuuuuking programmed sheep azz minds.
Go phugk yourself, moron. You're too stupid to understand the meaning of my post. Which is, young and dumb'ers here and about the internet have no respect - Period. Truth is, at 65, 2 years removed from open heart surgery, walking around with cancer, and a titanium plate in my chest, I'd still probably walk all over them and YOU.
Come get some. I'm outside every day painting my big ass house by myself in the south FL heat. Let's see how long you last.
You're just another internet big mouth.
Gees even Local Dirt was hangry back then.. Everyone was on edge.. But me and LD are good these days. I forgive you LD for being a internet bully to nugget.
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