A lot also depends on what they hit. Shooting either expanding bullets or solids into uniform media, whether ballistics gelatin or wet newspapers or whatever, isn't like shooting them into big animals made out of bone, muscle and various internal organs.
Flat-tipped solids, however, are pretty damn good. Though I've also seen old-fashioned round-nose solids penetrate a long ways and leave a nice, round exit hole on the other side of a buffalo, just where the hole should have been.
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