I took the total of the average of new midsize, luxury, pickup and compact and divided by 4. I guess some brands sell more than others, so if that data proves your point more then by all means use it. oh, BTW, maybe check out the little bit of figuring I did later. oh wait you did that and twisted that as well. All you did was give you OPINION of things, and try to play them off as facts. Not surprised given how heated you were. honestly I couldn't care less, because it changes nothing. Bristoe once again is being himself, and I swear one day I will take him up on his offer if he still remembers it. out of the majority of ya'll here he's the reasonable and prudent one. shareaspliff?
as to the rest, say what you will twist what you want, the bottom line is we are worse off than before as a whole when it comes to building prosperity. now it's a numbers game. So that said I will ask you boomers - given the choice would you rather be born in the 70's or 80's or when you were born in the 50's(ish) that will tell you something right there. BOOYAH
Your anger towards me seems displaced. I posted once on this thread and that includes a reference from what is considered an industry standard source on new car prices. You cited "a site" as the source for your data then manipulated it.
Personally, the whole argument is semantics. I was born Jan of 64, a boomer by definition, but to claim that I have it so much better than someone born in Jan 65 is silly. Instead look at other concepts of why people "succeed" and I put that in quotes because that definition if very personal, and shoud be. I would look instead at many other factors.
- Did they go to college or a trade school? Education matters
- Did they choose carefully so they left debt free? Certainly undergrad you don't need to go to a top flight school nor do you need to go right to grad school.
- Did they pick a course of study that is employable? Your degree in underwater-basket weaving may have been fun but.......
- Did they serve in the military? It is a superb transition from early adult to adult. It introduces many aspects of reality in living color and sets the stage for those first few years.
- Did they stick with a company long enough to see work through good and bad and help them succeed and build their reputation as an asset or when things were rough depart?
- Did they save to buy their first house and buy far less than what industry wanted? No one says you have to spend what a realtors says and you know what? Your first house is not your forever house. Fixer uppers are great.
- Before the first house did they have roommates to help defray expenses as they saved?
- Did they take advantage of employers 401K plan to the maximum extent possible? Yes, you can afford it and it will work in the long game.
- Did they buy used cars until they were in a position to buy new? Your average cost of new is irrelevant if you buy 2 years old.
- Were they willing to move to seek employment and career? One of my big irks is "the economy sucks here" Then leave!
- Do you decide you have to marry and have kids at 22? Works out for a lot but don't think it won't affect you.
None of this matters to the date you were born or some silly lines of "generation" they are decisions people make that affect their near and long-term success. Today I manage a project worth about $50 million. I have employees from 23 to 63 years of age, male and female, many ethnicities, and religions. They work they do, are capable of doing, and how they are doing in their measure of "success" is least measured by their age. I have young folks that are clearly going to do well and have considered the aspects above and acted on them. I have a couple folks in their late 50's, early 60's who "going to work forever" because they made poor choices.
To blame your lot in life on some arbitrary range of birthdates is lazy.
As for me? Off to deer camp in 20 minutes so I'm grand.
