Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by FreeMe
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by FreeMe
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter

Mostly our definitions of lower class, middle class, and upper class have changed. Middle class used to mean two to three kids in a bedroom and a purchase of one used car per family, which was parked in the driveway.



Exactly how I remember my childhood. And my parents always identified as middle class.



So for clarity, a family of 5, in a 2 bedroom house with one used car was middle class? Not your perception, step back. Is this on a lot in town? How big is the lot?



From about '61, it was a quarter acre lot in town. Four kids. Three bedrooms, including Mom & Dad. Yep. One car, much of the time. Some might have called it lower middle class, but we never thought of it that way. Thing is, we were always improving. Sometimes from Dad's self - improvement bringing promotions. Sometimes from sweat equity.

Sweat equity.....Now there's a concept that seams to be largely unknown these days.


Yeah, because nobody under the age of 65 knows what sweat equity is? come on dude, if you want to be taken seriously then you need to lose the ad hominems.



If you're going to criticize my argument with a stretch to claim ad hominem, you shouldn't preface it with the "nobody under age 65" straw man. I deliberately did not put an age group to that, precisely because it would be hard to define. The ratio of handy individuals to the general population always tends to get thinner with increased prosperity. I expect that the ratio will change, if it becomes necessary.


Lunatic fringe....we all know you're out there.