Originally Posted by shaman
Originally Posted by battue
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Shaman: Kentucky is a great Deer hunting State..but you are mostly guessing and guessing wrong when it comes to Pa. Pa has more of a hunter problem than a Deer habitat problem.




I will defer to your opinion, sir.

It's just that for the better part of 20 years I heard PA guys gripe about how good it used to be and how bad it was now. A lot of fellows I knew and some of them on here just gave up on PA.

One of the things folks complained loudest about was how the deer had completely eaten the lower browse. From standing, you could hardly see 20 yards, but if you knelt down, you could see forever. I saw some of that while hunting near East Brady.

I'm perfectly happy to retract my statements.


You've piqued my curiosity: what do you see as the problems with hunters contributing to this.





Thank you...

We all have our different perspective, based on where we hunt....some valid and some not. If I have a problem it would be with most Pa hunters.... in from what I have observed over the past decade at least...is a trend they are not all that enthusiastic about the actual hunting...shooting yes....hunting? Not so much.

As mentioned, Pa has lost its Deer hunting tradition.. perhaps you would have had to live it to understand what that means. Old boys, now gone that took a train to camp and had a farmer haul them over the mountain to it. Then eventually cut their own road over that mountain and hauled themselves..same guys took two weeks and hunted out of tents until they could get a decent camp built over the summers.

Most Pa today hunters fall far short in their dedication to the actual hunt..

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