Originally Posted by OldHat
Originally Posted by johnw


Oldhat,
Do you believe that the world is at peace?
Do you believe that the US Military is not in engagement with anyone, anywhere currently?

I like this kind of discussion. The US is at peace. We have no declared war with a peer foe.

So the gist of your reasoning is that a dangerous world, intense training, high risk missions and cat and mouse engagements on the high seas is equivalent to combat. I disagree. Do you really think WW2 vets would call what the current navy does war?

Do you believe the peace time military is a meritocracy?


Absolutely, I do. And I've never been Navy.

Originally Posted by OldHat
Originally Posted by MAC
There are a whole bunch of morons posting on this thread that don't know a damn thing about the USN or naval warfare. They should just go play in traffic and let the USN take care of business on the high seas.

Navy Chief (Ret.)

I'm not a moron. I'm not going to play in traffic. I am certainly going to let the navy run the navy, obviously.

My only point is I can't in any scenario see how this was not a major blunder.


So the Skipper of this sub is an incompetent fool who committed an avoidable blunder and you want your tax money back.

I'd start a collection if you, and those like you would move to mainland China...


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