Should add that the last time I used Hot-Cors on game was about 20 years ago, while culling some doe deer on a ranch in eastern Montana, using a pre-'64 Winchester Model 70 "Westerner" with 140 Hor-Cors at around 3200 fps. Didn't shoot anything closer than 150 yards, or farther than 250, and all of the bullets exited, while killing quickly and ruining very little meat.