kcm270. I think shrike's point is, with a cal like .338, if you shoot an Elk head on with 220gr. You may loose a rump roast.

I may be wrong, but that is the kind of penitration I would like to have for Elk. I shot a Deer this year with my .25WSSM with a 120gr bullet. It went in right in front of the right sholder and came out just in front of the left hip. What the .25s do to deer the .338s do to Elk.