JJ's Wa. cult must have a chapter here in the midsection of the country. I was in a large sporting goods store last week, looking over the selection of component bullets, when a guy walks up and starts going on about the weights offered in 7mm. He loudly went on and on about "all they had was heavy bullets". He said he used the 110's in his magnum because "they stop those deer in their tracks". According to him the 150 and larger bullets "just zip on through and the deer run off". I'd hate to have to butcher one of his trophys!