Was against Halloween Would ridicule and shun members that went to Disney World/Universal Studios Would berate people for watching ABC television programming
But was ok with having an Easter egg hunt on church property. I called him out on that one. lol He was sputtering like Sylvestor the cat.
Deacons overruled him on us having a Trunk Or Treat parking lot alternative to door to door and parties.
Deacons sat his squirrelly ass down and told him like it was. Dude didnt even have a seminary, was a truck stop screamer we picked up. Dumped him after two years of him cattle shuting kids thru coerced Baptisms at VBS.
If they truly believed, Christians would never celebrate anything. They'd live their entire lives in masochistic self-denial, sacrifice, and suffering to be worthy of the infinite rewards they expect when they're dead. Enjoying anything repudiates their faith.
If they truly believed, Christians would never celebrate anything. They'd live their entire lives in masochistic self-denial, sacrifice, and suffering to be worthy of the infinite rewards they expect when they're dead. Enjoying anything repudiates their faith.
We "Christians" celebrate other holidays with pagan origin. What' wrong with one more? Sol Invictus became Christmas, the pagan fertility festival was co-opted for Easter. What's the harm? And if it is harmful maybe Christmas and Easter need to go.
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
If they truly believed, Christians would never celebrate anything. They'd live their entire lives in masochistic self-denial, sacrifice, and suffering to be worthy of the infinite rewards they expect when they're dead. Enjoying anything repudiates their faith.
Jesus himself addressed this when he pointed out that John was criticized for living a life of self denial and he Jesus was criticized for drinking and eating. I think Jesus was very social, not self denying, and enjoyed eating and drinking.
This video is geared towards believers. Unbelievers can (and do) do anything they want. There are no rules. As a believer, can anyone name something Godly about halloween?
Or Valentine's Day, or Ground Hog Day, or a birthday, or President's Day. What is the problem that a Christian would have unless you're into witchcraft or Satan worship? For the record, I do not participate in Halloween.
This video is geared towards believers. Unbelievers can (and do) do anything they want. There are no rules. As a believer, can anyone name something Godly about halloween?
This video is geared towards believers. Unbelievers can (and do) do anything they want. There are no rules.
As a believer, can anyone name something Godly about halloween?
There's nothing Godly about combing our hair, driving a car, wearing cloths, hunting, fishing, following laws, Labor day, using toilet paper, veterans day, forth of july, washing dishes... you can not do anything physically or metaphorically Godly... or UnGodly.
By the way, Martin Luther nailed his 95 Theses to the door of the church in Wittenberg, thus lighting the fire of the Protestant Reformation on Oct. 31st, 1517.
If they truly believed, Christians would never celebrate anything. They'd live their entire lives in masochistic self-denial, sacrifice, and suffering to be worthy of the infinite rewards they expect when they're dead. Enjoying anything repudiates their faith.
This is just so wrong, I don't know where to start... Some of the happiest people that have been in my life were Christians to the core. Why would anybody be miserable after they find Christ? Christ didn't say you were exempt from hard times in you life, but he sure helps you to get through them. He also never said you must be miserable to follow me.
If they truly believed, Christians would never celebrate anything. They'd live their entire lives in masochistic self-denial, sacrifice, and suffering to be worthy of the infinite rewards they expect when they're dead. Enjoying anything repudiates their faith.
This is just so wrong, I don't know where to start... Some of the happiest people that have been in my life were Christians to the core. Why would anybody be miserable after they find Christ? Christ didn't say you were exempt from hard times in you life, but he sure helps you to get through them. He also never said you must be miserable to follow me.
Never read that in the Bible either,however, if you listen to some"christians" it certainly would seem that way.
Is the Pope Catholic?Is Monty Python a Saint.What day is the true Sabbath?Was Jesus actually born on December 25th?Was Mary a Virgin?Is Happy Crapper a Virgin?Does Jesus save and Moses Invest?How many stupid topics can Happy Crapper come up with?An inquiring mind wants to know.
But was ok with having an Easter egg hunt on church property. I called him out on that one. lol He was sputtering like Sylvestor the cat.
Pastors should know better. Christians commonly celebrate the resurrection of Jesus Christ often throughout the year. Many set aside Easter on the calendar for recognizing the same resurrection following the sacrifice. To accommodate the pagan influence of fertility worship or practices is wrong. Hide and seek of children and prizes any other time of year just for fun and not as a pagan practice is one thing. But I don't think the Lord is pleased with us teaching children fertility games like the heathens.
Deuteronomy 11:28 "And a curse, if ye will not obey the commandments of the LORD your God, but turn aside out of the way which I command you this day, to go after other gods, which ye have not known."
18:9,10 "When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations. There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch...",
Yup, and they should hang effigies of witches from the trees in their yards with Let’s Go Brandon signs around their necks, thereby offending both Wokesters and Demoncrats simultaneously.
Except for Satanists and other crackpots, Halloween is just an excuse to dress up and eat too much sugar.
We "Christians" celebrate other holidays with pagan origin. What' wrong with one more? Sol Invictus became Christmas, the pagan fertility festival was co-opted for Easter. What's the harm? And if it is harmful maybe Christmas and Easter need to go.
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
If they truly believed, Christians would never celebrate anything. They'd live their entire lives in masochistic self-denial, sacrifice, and suffering to be worthy of the infinite rewards they expect when they're dead. Enjoying anything repudiates their faith.
Jesus himself addressed this when he pointed out that John was criticized for living a life of self denial and he Jesus was criticized for drinking and eating. I think Jesus was very social, not self denying, and enjoyed eating and drinking.
Jesus did not celebrate darkness and death. He celebrated light and life.Jesus was certainly not social with the pharisees and sadducees. He made them hate him by telling the Truth. I don't believe you know the Truth. You prove it every time I read a post of yours about faith and the Bible.
We "Christians" celebrate other holidays with pagan origin. What' wrong with one more? Sol Invictus became Christmas, the pagan fertility festival was co-opted for Easter. What's the harm? And if it is harmful maybe Christmas and Easter need to go.
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
If they truly believed, Christians would never celebrate anything. They'd live their entire lives in masochistic self-denial, sacrifice, and suffering to be worthy of the infinite rewards they expect when they're dead. Enjoying anything repudiates their faith.
Jesus himself addressed this when he pointed out that John was criticized for living a life of self denial and he Jesus was criticized for drinking and eating. I think Jesus was very social, not self denying, and enjoyed eating and drinking.
Jesus did not celebrate darkness and death. He celebrated light and life.Jesus was certainly not social with the pharisees and sadducees. He made them hate him by telling the Truth. I don't believe you know the Truth. You prove it every time I read a post of yours about faith and the Bible.
This video is geared towards believers. Unbelievers can (and do) do anything they want. There are no rules.
As a believer, can anyone name something Godly about halloween?
Good question.
There's all kinds of old and new Testament prohibitions that God gives against the pagan rituals that Halloween is based upon.
Extortion Fear Darkness Death Satanism and the occult Child sacrifices
A mother dressing up her little girl in a cute outfit and taking her around to friends and neighbors' houses to share in her joy and excitement at playing dress-up and receiving candy is not ungodly.
Kids aren't symbolically worshipping Satan when they dress up as Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and eat Snickers bars.
If they truly believed, Christians would never celebrate anything. They'd live their entire lives in masochistic self-denial, sacrifice, and suffering to be worthy of the infinite rewards they expect when they're dead. Enjoying anything repudiates their faith.
It’s unfortunate that the American version of Christianity gives that impression. A right understanding of the Christian faith is that we are free to enjoy all the good things that God has given us. It’s unfortunate that America evangelical and fundamental thought left Christianity behind decades ago and replaced it with varying forms of moralism.
This video is geared towards believers. Unbelievers can (and do) do anything they want. There are no rules.
As a believer, can anyone name something Godly about halloween?
Good question.
There's all kinds of old and new Testament prohibitions that God gives against the pagan rituals that Halloween is based upon.
Extortion Fear Darkness Death Satanism and the occult Child sacrifices
A mother dressing up her little girl in a cute outfit and taking her around to friends and neighbors' houses to share in her joy and excitement at playing dress-up and receiving candy is not ungodly.
Kids aren't symbolically worshipping Satan when they dress up as Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and eat Snickers bars.
I already addressed that with this video. https://youtu.be/TFLrH_2ojEU The children are not satanists. Of course kids like to pretend and play dress up. Why must parents refuse to learn what God thinks about it? Kids are the innocent victims of crimes throughout the ages. They were burned alive by the evil druids to the demons they worshiped. There's a very sinister foundation to Halloween that parents and grandparents on the forum should be aware of. It is still a serious satanic unholy day celebrated by Satanists, witches, and various occult religions. They take it seriously. Using a cultural practice that parents raised by gt traditions doesn't change that fact. The devil does everything he can to influence the young to change society. Christians should shape society with God's Word and Good News, Not the devil and his followers.
We "Christians" celebrate other holidays with pagan origin. What' wrong with one more? Sol Invictus became Christmas, the pagan fertility festival was co-opted for Easter. What's the harm? And if it is harmful maybe Christmas and Easter need to go.
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
If they truly believed, Christians would never celebrate anything. They'd live their entire lives in masochistic self-denial, sacrifice, and suffering to be worthy of the infinite rewards they expect when they're dead. Enjoying anything repudiates their faith.
Jesus himself addressed this when he pointed out that John was criticized for living a life of self denial and he Jesus was criticized for drinking and eating. I think Jesus was very social, not self denying, and enjoyed eating and drinking.
Jesus did not celebrate darkness and death. He celebrated light and life.Jesus was certainly not social with the pharisees and sadducees. He made them hate him by telling the Truth. I don't believe you know the Truth. You prove it every time I read a post of yours about faith and the Bible.
Huh?
Yea, Ricky's religious position is on the way out there, Young Earth Creationist side of things.....
This video is geared towards believers. Unbelievers can (and do) do anything they want. There are no rules.
As a believer, can anyone name something Godly about halloween?
Good question.
There's all kinds of old and new Testament prohibitions that God gives against the pagan rituals that Halloween is based upon.
Extortion Fear Darkness Death Satanism and the occult Child sacrifices
A mother dressing up her little girl in a cute outfit and taking her around to friends and neighbors' houses to share in her joy and excitement at playing dress-up and receiving candy is not ungodly.
Kids aren't symbolically worshipping Satan when they dress up as Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and eat Snickers bars.
I already addressed that in the video. The children are not satanists. Of course kids like to pretend and play dress up. Why must parents refuse to learn what God thinks about it? Kids are the innocent victims of crimes throughout the ages. They were burned alive by the evil druids to the demons they worshiped. There's a very sinister foundation to Halloween that parents and grandparents on the forum should be aware of. It is still a serious satanic unholy day celebrated by Satanists, witches, and various occult religions. They take it seriously. Using a cultural practice that parents raised by gt traditions doesn't change that fact. The devil does everything he can to influence the young to change society. Christians should shape society with God's Word and Good News, Not the devil and his followers.
I like to think of Jesus as He lived on earth, as a man. I’ll bet He would have a blast watching His children dress up and walk door to door getting candy. It’s a ritual that unites us in our communities.
And I’ll bet He would sneak all the fun size Butterfingers out of your pillowcase at the end of the night, too.
This video is geared towards believers. Unbelievers can (and do) do anything they want. There are no rules.
As a believer, can anyone name something Godly about halloween?
Good question.
There's all kinds of old and new Testament prohibitions that God gives against the pagan rituals that Halloween is based upon.
Extortion Fear Darkness Death Satanism and the occult Child sacrifices
A mother dressing up her little girl in a cute outfit and taking her around to friends and neighbors' houses to share in her joy and excitement at playing dress-up and receiving candy is not ungodly.
Kids aren't symbolically worshipping Satan when they dress up as Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and eat Snickers bars.
I already addressed that in the video. The children are not satanists. Of course kids like to pretend and play dress up. Why must parents refuse to learn what God thinks about it? Kids are the innocent victims of crimes throughout the ages. They were burned alive by the evil druids to the demons they worshiped. There's a very sinister foundation to Halloween that parents and grandparents on the forum should be aware of. It is still a serious satanic unholy day celebrated by Satanists, witches, and various occult religions. They take it seriously. Using a cultural practice that parents raised by gt traditions doesn't change that fact. The devil does everything he can to influence the young to change society. Christians should shape society with God's Word and Good News, Not the devil and his followers.
This video is geared towards believers. Unbelievers can (and do) do anything they want. There are no rules.
As a believer, can anyone name something Godly about halloween?
Good question.
There's all kinds of old and new Testament prohibitions that God gives against the pagan rituals that Halloween is based upon.
Extortion Fear Darkness Death Satanism and the occult Child sacrifices
A mother dressing up her little girl in a cute outfit and taking her around to friends and neighbors' houses to share in her joy and excitement at playing dress-up and receiving candy is not ungodly.
Kids aren't symbolically worshipping Satan when they dress up as Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and eat Snickers bars.
If they truly believed, Christians would never celebrate anything. They'd live their entire lives in masochistic self-denial, sacrifice, and suffering to be worthy of the infinite rewards they expect when they're dead. Enjoying anything repudiates their faith.
You make a good point. I've met some Christians whose whole attitude was this. "If you're having fun, you're committing a sin." WTF?I wish I could remember his exact words when President carter came out with hit 55 MPH speed limit. It was, IIRC something to the effect of drivers having fun with their automobiles and the fun coming to a stop. I didn't much care for him anyway and that only made my dislike even greater. I was dating a girl in high school and we could go out but movies or school dances verboten! They were sinful. She didn't quite go along with mommy and daddy's beliefs. Guess I was damned lucky she didn't get knocked up. Good Christian people. The skipped out on owed rent and grocery bills telling the guy they left the money with me. But they did go to church every Sunday and Wednesday night.
I'm not down on Christian people by any means. I'm a Christian. But I've foregone the pleasure of church, thank you very much. My late wife got me to finally go back. There was one woman who had a reputation of stealing husbands from wives, yet they let her stay. We left when she hit on me right in front of my wife and I told her to F off in no uncertain words. We picked another and between the pastor with his Brooks Brothers sit and multiple Rolex watches, his constant badgering the congregation for money and sermons that left us feeling guilty, we said bye bye church. He was always one who gave you the feeling that if you were enjoying yourself you were sinning. Halloween? Can't speak for anyone else but when I was a kid it was our day. knock on doors and get free candy, cookies and other goodies. All good clean fun. Never gave any thought to anything but just big a bag of candy we could get before 9PM, out curfew set by our neighborhood. The occult? What was that? We had no idea. FWIW, our time frame was from about 1944 to maybe 1954. At the end I had to go along as escort tp my younger sister. Paul B.
This video is geared towards believers. Unbelievers can (and do) do anything they want. There are no rules.
As a believer, can anyone name something Godly about halloween?
Good question.
There's all kinds of old and new Testament prohibitions that God gives against the pagan rituals that Halloween is based upon.
Extortion Fear Darkness Death Satanism and the occult Child sacrifices
A mother dressing up her little girl in a cute outfit and taking her around to friends and neighbors' houses to share in her joy and excitement at playing dress-up and receiving candy is not ungodly.
Kids aren't symbolically worshipping Satan when they dress up as Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and eat Snickers bars.
I already addressed that in the video. The children are not satanists. Of course kids like to pretend and play dress up. Why must parents refuse to learn what God thinks about it? Kids are the innocent victims of crimes throughout the ages. They were burned alive by the evil druids to the demons they worshiped. There's a very sinister foundation to Halloween that parents and grandparents on the forum should be aware of. It is still a serious satanic unholy day celebrated by Satanists, witches, and various occult religions. They take it seriously. Using a cultural practice that parents raised by gt traditions doesn't change that fact. The devil does everything he can to influence the young to change society. Christians should shape society with God's Word and Good News, Not the devil and his followers.
The Inquisition was carried out by a pseudo"christian" sect that called itself THE Church. Jesus wasn't a part of that religion,some of whose officers carried out the torture of millions of peaceful true believers in Christ. I saw the book describing such torture yesterday. My friend asked me if I knew what it was. I did because a former friend, before I trusted my Lord, revealed that he was a satanist as I read from his library. Like you, he also justified his religious views and animosity toward those So-called christians. That doesn't make you a satanist, but you use the same worn out argument to try to paint the Jesus' true followers to be those evil inquisitors of the Dark Ages.
I saw the book describing such torture yesterday. My friend asked me if I knew what it was. I did because a former friend, before I trusted my Lord, revealed that he was a satanist as I read from his library. Like you, he also justified his religious views and animosity toward those So-called christians.
That’s funny as fugk. I have a borderline retard Democrat Obama loving sister-in-law that says the same thing. Equates current, modern Islamic behavior with the inquisition that was how many hundreds of years ago? Lol. They weren’t even Christians they were papists.
This video is geared towards believers. Unbelievers can (and do) do anything they want. There are no rules.
As a believer, can anyone name something Godly about halloween?
Good question.
There's all kinds of old and new Testament prohibitions that God gives against the pagan rituals that Halloween is based upon.
Extortion Fear Darkness Death Satanism and the occult Child sacrifices
A mother dressing up her little girl in a cute outfit and taking her around to friends and neighbors' houses to share in her joy and excitement at playing dress-up and receiving candy is not ungodly.
Kids aren't symbolically worshipping Satan when they dress up as Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and eat Snickers bars.
I already addressed that in the video. The children are not satanists. Of course kids like to pretend and play dress up. Why must parents refuse to learn what God thinks about it? Kids are the innocent victims of crimes throughout the ages. They were burned alive by the evil druids to the demons they worshiped. There's a very sinister foundation to Halloween that parents and grandparents on the forum should be aware of. It is still a serious satanic unholy day celebrated by Satanists, witches, and various occult religions. They take it seriously. Using a cultural practice that parents raised by gt traditions doesn't change that fact. The devil does everything he can to influence the young to change society. Christians should shape society with God's Word and Good News, Not the devil and his followers.
The Inquisition was carried out by a pseudo"christian" sect that called itself THE Church. Jesus wasn't a part of that religion,some of whose officers carried out the torture of millions of peaceful true believers in Christ. I saw the book describing such torture yesterday. My friend asked me if I knew what it was. I did because a former friend, before I trusted my Lord, revealed that he was a satanist as I read from his library. Like you, he also justified his religious views and animosity toward those So-called christians. That doesn't make you a satanist, but you use the same worn out argument to try to paint the Jesus' true followers to be those evil inquisitors of the Dark Ages.
Yes, they those events were carried out by Christians. You just committed the "No True Scotsman Fallacy".
No true Scotsman, or appeal to purity, is an informal fallacy in which one attempts to protect their universal generalization from a falsifying counterexample by excluding the counterexample improperly.[1][2][3] Rather than abandoning the falsified universal generalization or providing evidence that would disqualify the falsifying counterexample, a slightly modified generalization is constructed ad-hoc to definitionally exclude the undesirable specific case and counterexamples like it by appeal to rhetoric.[4] This rhetoric takes the form of emotionally charged but nonsubstantive purity platitudes such as "true, pure, genuine, authentic, real", etc.[2][5]
Philosophy professor Bradley Dowden explains the fallacy as an "ad hoc rescue" of a refuted generalization attempt.[1] The following is a simplified rendition of the fallacy:[6]
Person A: "No Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge." Person B: "But my uncle Angus is a Scotsman and he puts sugar on his porridge." Person A: "But no true Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge."
As a kid, my church put on a safe place to trick or treat and had good candy and other snacks. [bleep] the libtards.
It's not the Liberals who are against Halloween.
It's the Far Right Conservatives such as Slappy Hampster....the one's who are so far right they have to worry about falling off the edge of their young, flat earth.
As a kid, my church put on a safe place to trick or treat and had good candy and other snacks. [bleep] the libtards.
It's not the Liberals who are against Halloween.
It's the Far Right Conservatives such as Slappy Hampster....the one's who are so far right they have to worry about falling off the edge of their young, flat earth.
As a kid, my church put on a safe place to trick or treat and had good candy and other snacks. [bleep] the libtards.
It's not the Liberals who are against Halloween.
It's the Far Right Conservatives such as Slappy Hampster....the one's who are so far right they have to worry about falling off the edge of their young, flat earth.
Man...you are on a tear today.
Where ya been?
JIm, been busy with life. Hope life's going well for you and your bunch.
If they truly believed, Christians would never celebrate anything. They'd live their entire lives in masochistic self-denial, sacrifice, and suffering to be worthy of the infinite rewards they expect when they're dead. Enjoying anything repudiates their faith.
This is just so wrong, I don't know where to start... Some of the happiest people that have been in my life were Christians to the core. Why would anybody be miserable after they find Christ? Christ didn't say you were exempt from hard times in you life, but he sure helps you to get through them. He also never said you must be miserable to follow me.
Never read that in the Bible either,however, if you listen to some"christians" it certainly would seem that way.
There are always people that take anything to the extreme, no matter what it is. People that want to insult Christianity always point out the ones that are fringe, hoping their hate sticks.. I've know some people that are just miserable, wallow in it, and they inject it into everything, including their faith. I can say there are some fringe "churches" that are the same way. They are only doing harm to the Gospel and give the haters ammo. Thankfully, these people are a minority.
As a kid, my church put on a safe place to trick or treat and had good candy and other snacks. [bleep] the libtards.
It's not the Liberals who are against Halloween.
It's the Far Right Conservatives such as Slappy Hampster....the one's who are so far right they have to worry about falling off the edge of their young, flat earth.
Man...you are on a tear today.
Where ya been?
JIm, been busy with life. Hope life's going well for you and your bunch.
As a kid, my church put on a safe place to trick or treat and had good candy and other snacks. [bleep] the libtards.
It's not the Liberals who are against Halloween.
It's the Far Right Conservatives such as Slappy Hampster....the one's who are so far right they have to worry about falling off the edge of their young, flat earth.
Flat earth fable is another one of those lies propagated by atheists, satanists and various other a who hate christianity. Your argument is intended to discredit christianity and it's Founder by interjecting false narratives that were not held by christians. BTW, I know what a true Bible believing Christian is. They weren't the poope's and Cardinals' inquisiting soldiers.
We "Christians" celebrate other holidays with pagan origin. What' wrong with one more? Sol Invictus became Christmas, the pagan fertility festival was co-opted for Easter. What's the harm? And if it is harmful maybe Christmas and Easter need to go.
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
If they truly believed, Christians would never celebrate anything. They'd live their entire lives in masochistic self-denial, sacrifice, and suffering to be worthy of the infinite rewards they expect when they're dead. Enjoying anything repudiates their faith.
Jesus himself addressed this when he pointed out that John was criticized for living a life of self denial and he Jesus was criticized for drinking and eating. I think Jesus was very social, not self denying, and enjoyed eating and drinking.
Jesus did not celebrate darkness and death. He celebrated light and life.Jesus was certainly not social with the pharisees and sadducees. He made them hate him by telling the Truth. I don't believe you know the Truth. You prove it every time I read a post of yours about faith and the Bible.
Huh?
Yea, Ricky's religious position is on the way out there, Young Earth Creationist side of things.....
I have a Baptist preacher friend who is a young earth man and a complete inundation of the earth flood man. He proves the flood by the seashells in a cave somewhere in Latin America at 8000 feet elevation. I found out his young earth belief when I told him a rise of the colliding plates of1/4 inch a year would only take 384,000 years to get that cave 8000 feet above sea level.
As a kid, my church put on a safe place to trick or treat and had good candy and other snacks. [bleep] the libtards.
It's not the Liberals who are against Halloween.
It's the Far Right Conservatives such as Slappy Hampster....the one's who are so far right they have to worry about falling off the edge of their young, flat earth.
Flat earth fable is another one of those lies propagated by atheists, satanists and various other a who hate christianity. Your argument is intended to discredit Christianity and it's Founder by interjecting false narratives that were not held by christians. BTW, I know what a true Bible believing Christian is. They weren't the poope's and Cardinals' inquisiting soldiers.
Tomás de Torquemada was a Dominican friar. The Dominican order was approved by Pope Honorius III via the papal bull Religiosam vitam on 22 December 1216. In other words the leader of the Spanish Inquisition held membership in an order approved by the papacy.
As a kid, my church put on a safe place to trick or treat and had good candy and other snacks. [bleep] the libtards.
It's not the Liberals who are against Halloween.
It's the Far Right Conservatives such as Slappy Hampster....the one's who are so far right they have to worry about falling off the edge of their young, flat earth.
Flat earth fable is another one of those lies propagated by atheists, satanists and various other a who hate christianity. Your argument is intended to discredit christianity and it's Founder by interjecting false narratives that were not held by christians. BTW, I know what a true Bible believing Christian is. They weren't the poope's and Cardinals' inquisiting soldiers.
It's also interesting how you disavowed the flat earth, but not the young earth. Both movements are driven by fundamentalist Christians, some are just more extreme in their fundamentalism than others.
Halloween is a day of preparation for All Hallows Day, a celebration only important to Catholics. All Hallows Day is a day to celebrate those who the church has declared to be saints. The Bible calls all believers saints with no special appointment by the church. For those who believe the Bible, it's a day to celebrate all believers, not just those singled out a a church. Since the Catholic saints are unimportant to all non-Catholics, their day is equally unimportant. It's just a day to dress up and play boogy-man.
On judgement day, I doubt God will give a hoot about my Grandson dressing up as a can of Flex Seal and getting some free candy....Only the false prophet Adults can turn a Kids game into something evil..
You know, we celebrate birthdays, anniversaries, July 4th…..I take Christmas for what it is, a day for the family to get together. Thanksgiving is a day of celebration, but I was mostly deer hunting during that time.. Halloween can be enjoyed just like any of the other Holidays. Just keep in mind that it’s a celebration and not a worship service.
Mom died on October 31, 2009 in the morning, I don’t celebrate the day due to that. Love you Mom, you were more than I deserved.
This video is geared towards believers. Unbelievers can (and do) do anything they want. There are no rules.
As a believer, can anyone name something Godly about halloween?
Good question.
There's all kinds of old and new Testament prohibitions that God gives against the pagan rituals that Halloween is based upon.
Extortion Fear Darkness Death Satanism and the occult Child sacrifices
A mother dressing up her little girl in a cute outfit and taking her around to friends and neighbors' houses to share in her joy and excitement at playing dress-up and receiving candy is not ungodly.
Kids aren't symbolically worshipping Satan when they dress up as Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and eat Snickers bars.
I already addressed that in the video. The children are not satanists. Of course kids like to pretend and play dress up. Why must parents refuse to learn what God thinks about it? Kids are the innocent victims of crimes throughout the ages. They were burned alive by the evil druids to the demons they worshiped. There's a very sinister foundation to Halloween that parents and grandparents on the forum should be aware of. It is still a serious satanic unholy day celebrated by Satanists, witches, and various occult religions. They take it seriously. Using a cultural practice that parents raised by gt traditions doesn't change that fact. The devil does everything he can to influence the young to change society. Christians should shape society with God's Word and Good News, Not the devil and his followers.
The Inquisition was carried out by a pseudo"christian" sect that called itself THE Church. Jesus wasn't a part of that religion,some of whose officers carried out the torture of millions of peaceful true believers in Christ. I saw the book describing such torture yesterday. My friend asked me if I knew what it was. I did because a former friend, before I trusted my Lord, revealed that he was a satanist as I read from his library. Like you, he also justified his religious views and animosity toward those So-called christians. That doesn't make you a satanist, but you use the same worn out argument to try to paint the Jesus' true followers to be those evil inquisitors of the Dark Ages.
Those individuals were just as certain that they were christian and doing God's work as you are. They were probably right..........
Big jimmy be like, "Hey, Ho's, don't be messing with my grocery sacks full of candy......
Having kids participate is fine by me. Long ago I enjoyed the fun each year. I'm betting that today's kids do too.
Todays kids aren't even allowed to be out after dark around here.. All the towns have a set time for trick or treating and it's all during daylight hours. If it's supposed to rain on Halloween they move it to an alternate day. There's a curfew for everybody under 18. No teenagers out after dark waxing windows, smashimg pumpkins, shave creaming and toilet papering the streets and sidewalks. It just isn't allowed. Halloween in the 21 st century is lame and the kids are little pansies.
This video is geared towards believers. Unbelievers can (and do) do anything they want. There are no rules.
As a believer, can anyone name something Godly about halloween?
Good question.
There's all kinds of old and new Testament prohibitions that God gives against the pagan rituals that Halloween is based upon.
Extortion Fear Darkness Death Satanism and the occult Child sacrifices
A mother dressing up her little girl in a cute outfit and taking her around to friends and neighbors' houses to share in her joy and excitement at playing dress-up and receiving candy is not ungodly.
Kids aren't symbolically worshipping Satan when they dress up as Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and eat Snickers bars.
I already addressed that in the video. The children are not satanists. Of course kids like to pretend and play dress up. Why must parents refuse to learn what God thinks about it? Kids are the innocent victims of crimes throughout the ages. They were burned alive by the evil druids to the demons they worshiped. There's a very sinister foundation to Halloween that parents and grandparents on the forum should be aware of. It is still a serious satanic unholy day celebrated by Satanists, witches, and various occult religions. They take it seriously. Using a cultural practice that parents raised by gt traditions doesn't change that fact. The devil does everything he can to influence the young to change society. Christians should shape society with God's Word and Good News, Not the devil and his followers.
The Inquisition was carried out by a pseudo"christian" sect that called itself THE Church. Jesus wasn't a part of that religion,some of whose officers carried out the torture of millions of peaceful true believers in Christ. I saw the book describing such torture yesterday. My friend asked me if I knew what it was. I did because a former friend, before I trusted my Lord, revealed that he was a satanist as I read from his library. Like you, he also justified his religious views and animosity toward those So-called christians. That doesn't make you a satanist, but you use the same worn out argument to try to paint the Jesus' true followers to be those evil inquisitors of the Dark Ages.
Those individuals were just as certain that they were christian and doing God's work as you are. They were probably right..........
At our Lutheran church we celebrate Reformation Day. It's also on October 31st. We always include the hymn "A Mighty Fortress is Our God".
It's not my cup of tea as such, but if society wants to dress up in costumes and party for the night, it is their right to do so.
According to Philip Melanchthon, 31 October 1517 was the day German monk Martin Luther nailed his Ninety-five Theses on the door of the All Saints' Church in Wittenberg, Electorate of Saxony in the Holy Roman Empire. Historians and other experts on the subject argue that Luther may have chosen All Hallows' Eve on purpose to get the attention of common people, although that has never been proven.
Phaggy Camper is not only the biggest liar on this site but he also inserts his supposed faith and Gods name into his constant lies. Still the other holy roller idiots have his back which makes them all one steaming pile of schit. JMHO
Phaggy Camper is not only the biggest liar on this site but he also inserts his supposed faith and Gods name into his constant lies. Still the other holy roller idiots have his back which makes them all one steaming pile of schit. JMHO
It could be what you think are lies is merely a lack of education on your part.
We are saved by Faith, works build a place in Heaven.
Beef or Chicken/Pork? Most of what you are offering is cable BS by a piss poor actress who is sshhitty in her presentation. She is paid to look like a Biittcch like the liberals want.
Phaggy Camper is not only the biggest liar on this site but he also inserts his supposed faith and Gods name into his constant lies. Still the other holy roller idiots have his back which makes them all one steaming pile of schit. JMHO
It could be what you think are lies is merely a lack of education on your part.
Crappy Hampster is bullshit extraordinaire, bar none. It is an indisputable fact. The evidence is his history of posts.
Phaggy Camper is not only the biggest liar on this site but he also inserts his supposed faith and Gods name into his constant lies. Still the other holy roller idiots have his back which makes them all one steaming pile of schit. JMHO
It could be what you think are lies is merely a lack of education on your part.
Crappy Hampster is bullshit extraordinaire, bar none. It is an indisputable fact. The evidence is his history of posts.
Phaggy Camper is not only the biggest liar on this site but he also inserts his supposed faith and Gods name into his constant lies. Still the other holy roller idiots have his back which makes them all one steaming pile of schit. JMHO
It could be what you think are lies is merely a lack of education on your part.
Crappy Hampster is bullshit extraordinaire, bar none. It is an indisputable fact. The evidence is his history of posts.
That apparently you read. Why even comment?
Same reason that you just did I suppose.
Postings are always going to be subject to constructive criticism - you got a problem with that?
It's a public forum. If you post something controversial, you might get "constructive criticism " or you might get the reaction "happy camper" seems to crave.
Phaggy Camper is not only the biggest liar on this site but he also inserts his supposed faith and Gods name into his constant lies. Still the other holy roller idiots have his back which makes them all one steaming pile of schit. JMHO
these are the type of people to be leery of and watch out for.......these are the false prophets and deceivers of men.....bob
Halloween is of Christian origin, so why wouldn't Christians celebrate it?
This from wiki .......... It's pagan.
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Halloween or Hallowe'en (a contraction of "All Hallows' evening"),[5] also known as Allhalloween,[6] All Hallows' Eve,[7] or All Saints' Eve,[8] is a celebration observed in many countries on 31 October, the eve of the Western Christian feast of All Hallows' Day. It begins the observance of Allhallowtide,[9] the time in the liturgical year dedicated to remembering the dead, including saints (hallows), martyrs, and all the departed.[10][11]
One theory holds that many Halloween traditions were influenced by Celtic harvest festivals, particularly the Gaelic festival Samhain, which are believed to have pagan roots;[12][13][14][15] some go further and suggest that Samhain may have been Christianized as All Hallow's Day, along with its eve, by the early Church.[16] Other academics believe Halloween began solely as a Christian holiday, being the vigil of All Hallow's Day.[17][18][19][20] Celebrated in Ireland and Scotland, in the 19th century, Irish and Scottish migrants brought many Halloween customs to North America,[21][22] and then through American influence, Halloween spread to many other countries by the 21st century.[23][24]
Halloween is of Christian origin, so why wouldn't Christians celebrate it?
This from wiki .......... It's pagan.
Quote
Halloween or Hallowe'en (a contraction of "All Hallows' evening"),[5] also known as Allhalloween,[6] All Hallows' Eve,[7] or All Saints' Eve,[8] is a celebration observed in many countries on 31 October, the eve of the Western Christian feast of All Hallows' Day. It begins the observance of Allhallowtide,[9] the time in the liturgical year dedicated to remembering the dead, including saints (hallows), martyrs, and all the departed.[10][11]
One theory holds that many Halloween traditions were influenced by Celtic harvest festivals, particularly the Gaelic festival Samhain, which are believed to have pagan roots;[12][13][14][15] some go further and suggest that Samhain may have been Christianized as All Hallow's Day, along with its eve, by the early Church.[16] Other academics believe Halloween began solely as a Christian holiday, being the vigil of All Hallow's Day.[17][18][19][20] Celebrated in Ireland and Scotland, in the 19th century, Irish and Scottish migrants brought many Halloween customs to North America,[21][22] and then through American influence, Halloween spread to many other countries by the 21st century.[23][24]
How did you derive that it's pagan from that excerpt?
Halloween has turned into a bizarre schitshow. It’s a stupid excuse for weird people to really get weird and semi-normal people to pretend they’re weird. Non event for us.
Halloween is of Christian origin, so why wouldn't Christians celebrate it?
This from wiki .......... It's pagan.
Quote
Halloween or Hallowe'en (a contraction of "All Hallows' evening"),[5] also known as Allhalloween,[6] All Hallows' Eve,[7] or All Saints' Eve,[8] is a celebration observed in many countries on 31 October, the eve of the Western Christian feast of All Hallows' Day. It begins the observance of Allhallowtide,[9] the time in the liturgical year dedicated to remembering the dead, including saints (hallows), martyrs, and all the departed.[10][11]
One theory holds that many Halloween traditions were influenced by Celtic harvest festivals, particularly the Gaelic festival Samhain, which are believed to have pagan roots;[12][13][14][15] some go further and suggest that Samhain may have been Christianized as All Hallow's Day, along with its eve, by the early Church.[16] Other academics believe Halloween began solely as a Christian holiday, being the vigil of All Hallow's Day.[17][18][19][20] Celebrated in Ireland and Scotland, in the 19th century, Irish and Scottish migrants brought many Halloween customs to North America,[21][22] and then through American influence, Halloween spread to many other countries by the 21st century.[23][24]
How did you derive that it's pagan from that excerpt?
Just do some research on it as we did many years ago. There is much on the subject out there. It goes back pre-Christian and like Christmas has been assimilated into main stream culture including Christian circles.
If they truly believed, Christians would never celebrate anything. They'd live their entire lives in masochistic self-denial, sacrifice, and suffering to be worthy of the infinite rewards they expect when they're dead. Enjoying anything repudiates their faith.
This is non sense. Your comments are based on complete Biblical ignorance.
Ecclesiastes 2:24 " There is nothing better for a person than that he should eat and drink and find enjoyment[a] in his toil. This also, I saw, is from the hand of God,"
Yes, they those events were carried out by Christians. You just committed the "No True Scotsman Fallacy".
No true Scotsman, or appeal to purity, is an informal fallacy in which one attempts to protect their universal generalization from a falsifying counterexample by excluding the counterexample improperly.[1][2][3] Rather than abandoning the falsified universal generalization or providing evidence that would disqualify the falsifying counterexample, a slightly modified generalization is constructed ad-hoc to definitionally exclude the undesirable specific case and counterexamples like it by appeal to rhetoric.[4] This rhetoric takes the form of emotionally charged but nonsubstantive purity platitudes such as "true, pure, genuine, authentic, real", etc.[2][5]
Philosophy professor Bradley Dowden explains the fallacy as an "ad hoc rescue" of a refuted generalization attempt.[1] The following is a simplified rendition of the fallacy:[6]
Person A: "No Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge." Person B: "But my uncle Angus is a Scotsman and he puts sugar on his porridge." Person A: "But no true Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge."
This is ignorant atheistic tripe parroted from the internet.
The "No True Scotsman Fallacy" does not apply if indeed there are real definitions for a Scotsman and said definition is relevant to the argument. IOW, Scottish people really do exist. Christians REALLY do exist.
As a kid, my church put on a safe place to trick or treat and had good candy and other snacks. [bleep] the libtards.
It's not the Liberals who are against Halloween.
It's the Far Right Conservatives such as Slappy Hampster....the one's who are so far right they have to worry about falling off the edge of their young, flat earth.
No, you are uninformed.
People who are against Halloween are those who know it's pagan and celebrates death.
As a kid, my church put on a safe place to trick or treat and had good candy and other snacks. [bleep] the libtards.
It's not the Liberals who are against Halloween.
It's the Far Right Conservatives such as Slappy Hampster....the one's who are so far right they have to worry about falling off the edge of their young, flat earth.
Flat earth fable is another one of those lies propagated by atheists, satanists and various other a who hate christianity. Your argument is intended to discredit christianity and it's Founder by interjecting false narratives that were not held by christians. BTW, I know what a true Bible believing Christian is. They weren't the poope's and Cardinals' inquisiting soldiers.
Halloween is of Christian origin, so why wouldn't Christians celebrate it?
Non sense. You have no idea what Christianity is if you think such a thing.
Beyond that, it makes no difference what the origin is. The modern celebration is being embraced by the current pagan revival in the west. This alone tells you it should be refuted by Christians.
Like everything else you retards get involved in, you have fugged up spirituality as well.
Thats the kind of stuff God hates.
What do you believe about spirituality?
What I have found is that the vast majority of people on the internet will not say what they believe about spirituality because they know it will not hold up under scrutiny.
Of the ten most im;portant things I have to be concerned with today, whether or not my grandkids should go trick or treating is number four thousand six hundred and seventy nine.
Like everything else you retards get involved in, you have fugged up spirituality as well.
Thats the kind of stuff God hates.
What do you believe about spirituality?
What I have found is that the vast majority of people on the internet will not say what they believe about spirituality because they know it will not hold up under scrutiny.
Under scrutiny?
Like spelling magic with a "K"?
Why did all the big "holidays" start off as Pagan holidays?
Of the ten most im;portant things I have to be concerned with today, whether or not my grandkids should go trick or treating is number four thousand six hundred and seventy nine.
The vast majority of people in the world think just like you. I'm fully aware saying Halloween is satanic is not popular. I understand.
1 Corinthians 2:14 "The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned."
1 Peter 5:8 "Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour."
Like everything else you retards get involved in, you have fugged up spirituality as well.
Thats the kind of stuff God hates.
What do you believe about spirituality?
What I have found is that the vast majority of people on the internet will not say what they believe about spirituality because they know it will not hold up under scrutiny.
Under scrutiny?
Like spelling magic with a "K"?
Why did all the big "holidays" start off as Pagan holidays?
Like everything else you retards get involved in, you have fugged up spirituality as well.
Thats the kind of stuff God hates.
What do you believe about spirituality?
What I have found is that the vast majority of people on the internet will not say what they believe about spirituality because they know it will not hold up under scrutiny.
Under scrutiny?
Like spelling magic with a "K"?
Why did all the big "holidays" start off as Pagan holidays?
What do you believe about spirituality?
That you fugging idiots have ruined it for millions and seem to like nothing more than causing divisions and strife.
Decidedly un-spiritual. You will have a lot to answer for.
It is always amazing how many people feel the need to tell others how to live their lives.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
THIS. Christians and Liberals...the most " open minded" sectors of the population, simply can't stand it when someone has a view that differs with theirs....
Halloween is of Christian origin, so why wouldn't Christians celebrate it?
Non sense. You have no idea what Christianity is if you think such a thing.
Beyond that, it makes no difference what the origin is. The modern celebration is being embraced by the current pagan revival in the west. This alone tells you it should be refuted by Christians.
It is always amazing how many people feel the need to tell others how to live their lives.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
THIS. Christians and Liberals...the most " open minded" sectors of the population, simply can't stand it when someone has a view that differs with theirs....
Honestly haven’t even seen this thread until now and went right to the end so I know this is a lot I may have missed.
The thread’s title addresses Christian’s (of whom I am one) only… and at that, expresses an opinion held by a minority of them.
According to that reading (again recognizing I likely missed a lot along the way) isn’t it I who has a kid going trick or treating who should be “offended” or whatever (I’m not; I don’t care) rather than those who aren’t Christian’s?
Halloween is of Christian origin, so why wouldn't Christians celebrate it?
Non sense. You have no idea what Christianity is if you think such a thing.
Beyond that, it makes no difference what the origin is. The modern celebration is being embraced by the current pagan revival in the west. This alone tells you it should be refuted by Christians.
Old Hat spoke the truth. Besides, this question is addressed to Christians, Not to trolling unbelievers.
You two already put a terrible curse/ hex on your own lives (and your families), by rejecting the ONLY means of salvation linked in my signature below.
Jesus, Almighty God Himself, said,
"He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."
John 3
The solution, NOT a hex, is there. It's the satanists and witches who cast hex's and spells by summoning help from evil spirits that enjoy the culture promoting death, fear, darkness and the occult.
You two already put a terrible curse on your lives by rejecting the ONLY means of salvation linked in my signature below.
Jesus, Almighty God Himself, said,
"He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."
John 3
You are no Christian. Christianity isn't a HOA, and your ad revenue is not going to buy your treacherous ass into heaven.
It is always amazing how many people feel the need to tell others how to live their lives.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS. Christians and Liberals...the most " open minded" sectors of the population, simply can't stand it when someone has a view that differs with theirs....
Kinda like the “open minded” virtue signalers here who castigate and ridicule others because they like to watch college football and the NFL. That’s ‘always’ good for a laugh.
You two already put a terrible curse on your lives by rejecting the ONLY means of salvation linked in my signature below.
Jesus, Almighty God Himself, and Happy Camper said,
"He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."
You two already put a terrible curse on your lives by rejecting the ONLY means of salvation linked in my signature below.
Jesus, Almighty God Himself, and Happy Camper said,
"He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."
It is always amazing how many people feel the need to tell others how to live their lives.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS. Christians and Liberals...the most " open minded" sectors of the population, simply can't stand it when someone has a view that differs with theirs....
Why do the two of you hide behind such a shallow set of words.
You both have morals and dogmas that you believe are the correct way to live life. I can guarantee you you tell people who will listen about them.
No one here is forcing anyone to believe or do anything. Christians are simply stating what they believe. On the contrary, it is the radical Christian haters who try and shut down the discussion.
It is always amazing how many people feel the need to tell others how to live their lives.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS. Christians and Liberals...the most " open minded" sectors of the population, simply can't stand it when someone has a view that differs with theirs....
Why do the two of you hide behind such a shallow set of words.
You both have morals and dogmas that you believe are the correct way to live life. I can guarantee you you tell people who will listen about them.
No one here is forcing anyone to believe or do anything. Christians are simply stating what they believe. On the contrary, it is the radical Christian haters who try and shut down the discussion.
You are no better than a radical Muslim and your end result is to drive people away from Christ.
Halloween is of Christian origin, so why wouldn't Christians celebrate it?
Non sense. You have no idea what Christianity is if you think such a thing.
Beyond that, it makes no difference what the origin is. The modern celebration is being embraced by the current pagan revival in the west. This alone tells you it should be refuted by Christians.
Halloween is of Christian origin, so why wouldn't Christians celebrate it?
Non sense. You have no idea what Christianity is if you think such a thing.
Beyond that, it makes no difference what the origin is. The modern celebration is being embraced by the current pagan revival in the west. This alone tells you it should be refuted by Christians.
What came first, All Hallows Day or Halloween as we know it? Who established All Hallows Day and why?
You did not read my response or the link.
If anything, you have proven yourself intellectually lazy.....just like the earlier men who just decided to change the names of the Pagan holidays and call them Christian holidays.
Quite a difference between carving a Jack O Lantern and seeing the grandkids in their costumes....
Or
Slaughtering a goat, smearing your body with blood and dancing around a fire under the moonlight singing praise to Pan.
That is a fair point. I don't think it is a sin to send the kids off to trick or treat.
On the other hand teaching them the truth from the beginning and not hiding what is really going on is also not good at all. Once people know and believe what is really going on I find people who love the Lord Jesus Christ naturally want to disassociate from such a horrid holiday.
Halloween is of Christian origin, so why wouldn't Christians celebrate it?
Non sense. You have no idea what Christianity is if you think such a thing.
Beyond that, it makes no difference what the origin is. The modern celebration is being embraced by the current pagan revival in the west. This alone tells you it should be refuted by Christians.
What came first, All Hallows Day or Halloween as we know it? Who established All Hallows Day and why?
You did not read my response or the link.
If anything, you have proven yourself intellectually lazy.....just like the earlier men who just decided to change the names of the Pagan holidays and call them Christian holidays.
Halloween is of Christian origin, so why wouldn't Christians celebrate it?
Non sense. You have no idea what Christianity is if you think such a thing.
Beyond that, it makes no difference what the origin is. The modern celebration is being embraced by the current pagan revival in the west. This alone tells you it should be refuted by Christians.
Quite a difference between carving a Jack O Lantern and seeing the grandkids in their costumes....
Or
Slaughtering a goat, smearing your body with blood and dancing around a fire under the moonlight singing praise to Pan.
That is a fair point. I don't think it is a sin to send the kids off to trick or treat.
On the other hand teaching them the truth from the beginning and not hiding what is really going on is also not good at all. Once people know and believe what is really going on I find people who love the Lord Jesus Christ naturally want to disassociate from such a horrid holiday.
Do you teach your kids that Christmas was originally a pagan holiday? Do you want christians to disassociate from it too?
Quite a difference between carving a Jack O Lantern and seeing the grandkids in their costumes....
Or
Slaughtering a goat, smearing your body with blood and dancing around a fire under the moonlight singing praise to Pan.
That is a fair point. I don't think it is a sin to send the kids off to trick or treat.
On the other hand teaching them the truth from the beginning and not hiding what is really going on is also not good at all. Once people know and believe what is really going on I find people who love the Lord Jesus Christ naturally want to disassociate from such a horrid holiday.
Hat, most people can’t tell you how many States there are in the US. You worrying about, or thinking parents should be teaching their kids what and where Halloween originated from is incredibly short sighted today. Hell, it was short sighted 30 years ago.
Not pertaining to any individual person or persons here on this board specifically, I believe you make a very good point above sir. Some followers of Jesus choose not to ‘belong’ to a hostile and quarrelsome, disputatious and deservedly infamous group.
A lotta people have quit being a ‘Christian.’ They’re out. They remain committed to Jesus but not to being ‘Christian’ or to being part of organized Christianity. Their faith in Jesus is still central to their lives, and being an optimistic believer in a universe created and sustained by a loving God is crucial to them. But following Jesus does not mean following His followers. Jesus is infinitely more important than Christianity and always will be, no matter what Christianity is, has been, or might become. Their commitment to Jesus remains at the heart and center of their lives, and transformation in Him is ongoing and radical. Some simply feel called to be an outsider for Him, to step away from the words “Christian” and “Christianity,” it’s something that their conscience pretty much demands of them.
Like everything else you retards get involved in, you have fugged up spirituality as well.
Thats the kind of stuff God hates.
What do you believe about spirituality?
What I have found is that the vast majority of people on the internet will not say what they believe about spirituality because they know it will not hold up under scrutiny.
Do you really think that other's spirituality is any of your business? Who appointed you as the arbiter of "true spirituality?"
Who made you the judge of "the vast majority of people on the internet?"
Like everything else you retards get involved in, you have fugged up spirituality as well.
Thats the kind of stuff God hates.
What do you believe about spirituality?
What I have found is that the vast majority of people on the internet will not say what they believe about spirituality because they know it will not hold up under scrutiny.
Do you really think that other's spirituality is any of your business? Who appointed you as the arbiter of "true spirituality?"
Who made you the judge of "the vast majority of people on the internet?"
These questions, if asked of me, always find me asking the person “What is their favorite sexual position?”
Seems only fair ~ one personal question deserves another.
And not what others think I should beleive per their own beliefs...
And I don't believe in all the spin off series branches of christianity, nor the various bibles man has, created, cut, copied, added too, or deleted thruout the centuries to suit his own purposes or too create his own branches of christianity.
Usually done by those of influence seeking power or Benjamins for ages....
Halloween is of Christian origin, so why wouldn't Christians celebrate it?
This from wiki .......... It's pagan.
Quote
Halloween or Hallowe'en (a contraction of "All Hallows' evening"),[5] also known as Allhalloween,[6] All Hallows' Eve,[7] or All Saints' Eve,[8] is a celebration observed in many countries on 31 October, the eve of the Western Christian feast of All Hallows' Day. It begins the observance of Allhallowtide,[9] the time in the liturgical year dedicated to remembering the dead, including saints (hallows), martyrs, and all the departed.[10][11]
One theory holds that many Halloween traditions were influenced by Celtic harvest festivals, particularly the Gaelic festival Samhain, which are believed to have pagan roots;[12][13][14][15] some go further and suggest that Samhain may have been Christianized as All Hallow's Day, along with its eve, by the early Church.[16] Other academics believe Halloween began solely as a Christian holiday, being the vigil of All Hallow's Day.[17][18][19][20] Celebrated in Ireland and Scotland, in the 19th century, Irish and Scottish migrants brought many Halloween customs to North America,[21][22] and then through American influence, Halloween spread to many other countries by the 21st century.[23][24]
How did you derive that it's pagan from that excerpt?
Not pertaining to any individual person or persons here on this board specifically, I believe you make a very good point above sir. Some followers of Jesus choose not to ‘belong’ to a hostile and quarrelsome, disputatious and deservedly infamous group.
A lotta people have quit being a ‘Christian.’ They’re out. They remain committed to Jesus but not to being ‘Christian’ or to being part of organized Christianity. Their faith in Jesus is still central to their lives, and being an optimistic believer in a universe created and sustained by a loving God is crucial to them. But following Jesus does not mean following His followers. Jesus is infinitely more important than Christianity and always will be, no matter what Christianity is, has been, or might become. Their commitment to Jesus remains at the heart and center of their lives, and transformation in Him is ongoing and radical. Some simply feel called to be an outsider for Him, to step away from the words “Christian” and “Christianity,” it’s something that their conscience pretty much demands of them.
And not what others think I should beleive per their own beliefs...
And I don't believe in all the spin off series branches of christianity, nor the various bibles man has, created, cut, copied, added too, or deleted thruout the centuries to suit his own purposes or too create his own branches of christianity.
Usually done by those of influence seeking power or Benjamins for ages....
You two already put a terrible curse on your lives by rejecting the ONLY means of salvation linked in my signature below.
Jesus, Almighty God Himself, said,
"He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."
John 3
You are no Christian. Christianity isn't a HOA, and your ad revenue is not going to buy your treacherous ass into heaven.
It's easy for a Reprobate to lie like this. /\ I have gained absolutely absolutely No revenue from this forum although anybody that deals with you deserves much payment for their trouble. My gospel IS FREE and based on the meritless kindness that God has to offer. It cost Him His life and you have fought against His proclamation of this since I joined the Campfire. FAITH IN THE SAVIOR, NOT YOUR WORTHLESS "GOOD" WORKS IS THE RIGHT RESPONSE.
BTW It's pronounced KAMP, Not kramp fire unless you have a speech impediment.
Also, just because the catholic religion co-opted a pagan holiday does not mean Halloween has absolutely any Christian association.
"OldHat is so stupid"
"HOW STUPID IS HE?"
"OldHat is so stupid every All Hallows Eve instead of candy he gives out [BLANK]."
Papists are the Devil leaflets.
And Jesus was a whoremonger.
II Timothy 3
"This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God"
You two already put a terrible curse on your lives by rejecting the ONLY means of salvation linked in my signature below.
Jesus, Almighty God Himself, said,
"He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."
John 3
You are no Christian. Christianity isn't a HOA, and your ad revenue is not going to buy your treacherous ass into heaven.
It's easy for a Reprobate to lie like this. /\ I have gained absolutely absolutely No revenue from this forum although anybody that deals with you deserves much payment for their trouble. My gospel if free and based on the meritless kindness that God has to offer. It cost Him His life and you have fought against His proclamation of this since I joined the Campfire. It's pronounced KAMP, Not kramp fire unless you have a speech impediment.
So, is that ‘your’ video or not? You’ve ducked that question a few times and your OP doesn’t take ownership. Lies by omission………..
You two already put a terrible curse on your lives by rejecting the ONLY means of salvation linked in my signature below.
Jesus, Almighty God Himself, said,
"He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."
John 3
You are no Christian. Christianity isn't a HOA, and your ad revenue is not going to buy your treacherous ass into heaven.
It's easy for a Reprobate to lie like this. /\ I have gained absolutely absolutely No revenue from this forum although anybody that deals with you deserves much payment for their trouble. My gospel if free and based on the meritless kindness that God has to offer. It cost Him His life and you have fought against His proclamation of this since I joined the Campfire. It's pronounced KAMP, Not kramp fire unless you have a speech impediment.
So, is that ‘your’ video or not? You’ve ducked that question a few times and your OP doesn’t take ownership. Lies by omission………..
This video is geared towards believers. Unbelievers can (and do) do anything they want. There are no rules.
As a believer, can anyone name something Godly about halloween?
Good question.
There's all kinds of old and new Testament prohibitions that God gives against the pagan rituals that Halloween is based upon.
Extortion Fear Darkness Death Satanism and the occult Child sacrifices
A mother dressing up her little girl in a cute outfit and taking her around to friends and neighbors' houses to share in her joy and excitement at playing dress-up and receiving candy is not ungodly.
Kids aren't symbolically worshipping Satan when they dress up as Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and eat Snickers bars.
I already addressed that with this video. https://youtu.be/TFLrH_2ojEU The children are not satanists. Of course kids like to pretend and play dress up. Why must parents refuse to learn what God thinks about it? Kids are the innocent victims of crimes throughout the ages. They were burned alive by the evil druids to the demons they worshiped. There's a very sinister foundation to Halloween that parents and grandparents on the forum should be aware of. It is still a serious satanic unholy day celebrated by Satanists, witches, and various occult religions. They take it seriously. Using a cultural practice that parents raised by gt traditions doesn't change that fact. The devil does everything he can to influence the young to change society. Christians should shape society with God's Word and Good News, Not the devil and his followers.
I'm not going to waste my afternoon with you Grammer police who twist everything the Christians say and lie boldly without so much as a blush. Just so I don't repeat myself, that goes to the Con man, Pole smoker, knine, rastaman and every unbeliever that wants to jump on the flaming hay wagon to defend satanism, Halloween, trick or treating from a thoroughly unchristian, perspective... uninvited on this Christian thread.
It is always amazing how many people feel the need to tell others how to live their lives.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS. Christians and Liberals...the most " open minded" sectors of the population, simply can't stand it when someone has a view that differs with theirs....
Why do the two of you hide behind such a shallow set of words.
You both have morals and dogmas that you believe are the correct way to live life. I can guarantee you you tell people who will listen about them.
No one here is forcing anyone to believe or do anything. Christians are simply stating what they believe. On the contrary, it is the radical Christian haters who try and shut down the discussion.
You are no better than a radical Muslim and your end result is to drive people away from Christ.
Kinda brings to mind writings about paths and one being wide and straight, the other narrow and difficult. Ever heard about something like that?
It is always amazing how many people feel the need to tell others how to live their lives.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS. Christians and Liberals...the most " open minded" sectors of the population, simply can't stand it when someone has a view that differs with theirs....
Why do the two of you hide behind such a shallow set of words.
You both have morals and dogmas that you believe are the correct way to live life. I can guarantee you you tell people who will listen about them.
No one here is forcing anyone to believe or do anything. Christians are simply stating what they believe. On the contrary, it is the radical Christian haters who try and shut down the discussion.
You are no better than a radical Muslim and your end result is to drive people away from Christ.
Kinda brings to mind writings about paths and one being wide and straight, the other narrow and difficult. Ever heard about something like that?
You are correct with the first definition, but no need for the "and."
"Straight" means narrow, not difficult. Context is comparing wide to narrow, but that's where the definition is about salvation through the one narrow way of Jesus the Good Shepherd. The difficult works of religious rituals, behavior and the law are numerous. Jesus way is rejecting those ways and focus that object of faith upon that Shepherd, to follow the analogy.
Matthew 7 "Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
What JIm Con and others should do is quit making excuses for their refusal of Christ, like .....Christians are meanies and don't like me falsely accusing them, trolling and blaspheming their Savior....instead CHOOSE the one and only path that leads to the sheepfold.
And not what others think I should beleive per their own beliefs...
And I don't believe in all the spin off series branches of christianity, nor the various bibles man has, created, cut, copied, added too, or deleted thruout the centuries to suit his own purposes or too create his own branches of christianity.
Usually done by those of influence seeking power or Benjamins for ages....
It is always amazing how many people feel the need to tell others how to live their lives.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS. Christians and Liberals...the most " open minded" sectors of the population, simply can't stand it when someone has a view that differs with theirs....
Why do the two of you hide behind such a shallow set of words.
You both have morals and dogmas that you believe are the correct way to live life. I can guarantee you you tell people who will listen about them.
No one here is forcing anyone to believe or do anything. Christians are simply stating what they believe. On the contrary, it is the radical Christian haters who try and shut down the discussion.
You are no better than a radical Muslim and your end result is to drive people away from Christ.
Kinda brings to mind writings about paths and one being wide and straight, the other narrow and difficult. Ever heard about something like that?
You are correct with the first definition, but no need for the "and."
"Straight" means narrow, not difficult. Context is comparing wide to narrow, but that's where the definition is about salvation through the one narrow way of Jesus the Good Shepherd. The difficult works of religious rituals, behavior and the law are numerous. Jesus way is rejecting those ways and focus that object of faith upon that Shepherd, to follow the analogy.
Matthew 7 "Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
What JIm Con and others should do is quit making excuses for their refusal of Christ, like .....Christians are meanies and don't like me falsely accusing them, trolling and blaspheming their Savior....instead CHOOSE the one and only path that leads to the sheepfold.
Not pertaining to any individual person or persons here on this board specifically, I believe you make a very good point above sir. Some followers of Jesus choose not to ‘belong’ to a hostile and quarrelsome, disputatious and deservedly infamous group.
A lotta people have quit being a ‘Christian.’ They’re out. They remain committed to Jesus but not to being ‘Christian’ or to being part of organized Christianity. Their faith in Jesus is still central to their lives, and being an optimistic believer in a universe created and sustained by a loving God is crucial to them. But following Jesus does not mean following His followers. Jesus is infinitely more important than Christianity and always will be, no matter what Christianity is, has been, or might become. Their commitment to Jesus remains at the heart and center of their lives, and transformation in Him is ongoing and radical. Some simply feel called to be an outsider for Him, to step away from the words “Christian” and “Christianity,” it’s something that their conscience pretty much demands of them.
You got it………others don’t/won’t see it.
George
Antlers: You have a way with words. Thank you for entering this discussion. You and I don't completely agree but we both try to follow the real Jesus. I believe Jesus was exactly what and who he claimed to be. It is some of his self proclaimed friends I don't much like.
Not pertaining to any individual person or persons here on this board specifically, I believe you make a very good point above sir. Some followers of Jesus choose not to ‘belong’ to a hostile and quarrelsome, disputatious and deservedly infamous group.
A lotta people have quit being a ‘Christian.’ They’re out. They remain committed to Jesus but not to being ‘Christian’ or to being part of organized Christianity. Their faith in Jesus is still central to their lives, and being an optimistic believer in a universe created and sustained by a loving God is crucial to them. But following Jesus does not mean following His followers. Jesus is infinitely more important than Christianity and always will be, no matter what Christianity is, has been, or might become. Their commitment to Jesus remains at the heart and center of their lives, and transformation in Him is ongoing and radical. Some simply feel called to be an outsider for Him, to step away from the words “Christian” and “Christianity,” it’s something that their conscience pretty much demands of them.
You got it………others don’t/won’t see it.
George
Antlers: You have a way with words. Thank you for entering this discussion. You and I don't completely agree but we both try to follow the real Jesus. I believe Jesus was exactly what and who he claimed to be. It is some of his self proclaimed friends I don't much like.
So………you fee you can define someone as an ‘unbeliever’?
Simple question; is that your video or not? You avoiding the question doesn’t make you seem very honest.
I’ll sleep just fine despite your ‘judgement’, since it has no weight in this life or the next.
I answered it in the reposts and grammar correction if you care to read on this page. I posted the video and agree with it. No, I am not Pastor Roger and No you are not getting personal information.
If you read what is written, you will also learn the answer to your simple question with the simple answer. If you have further questions about this subject, I can be reached by PM.
I’m not wading through all the BS in these pages, nor do I want any of your personal information. I was simply curious if you were the Pastor in the video, yet not being transparent. You say you’re not, and I’ll take that at face value. You have a better chance of seeing God than having me PM you about anything.
I’m not wading through all the BS in these pages, nor do I want any of your personal information. I was simply curious if you were the Pastor in the video, yet not being transparent. You say you’re not, and I’ll take that at face value. You have a better chance of seeing God than having me PM you about anything.
I figured it would get my personal quick response if you were sincerely wanting an answer. Otherwise, there would be half a dozen trolls or more I'd have to wade through to find your Q. I was transparent and gave you a clear answer on THIS page. I don't have to respond to all of those trolls to give them more ammo for free. They are like swine looking for scraps when you toss them pearls.
As a kid, my church put on a safe place to trick or treat and had good candy and other snacks. [bleep] the libtards.
It's not the Liberals who are against Halloween.
It's the Far Right Conservatives such as Slappy Hampster....the one's who are so far right they have to worry about falling off the edge of their young, flat earth.
Flat earth fable is another one of those lies propagated by atheists, satanists and various other a who hate christianity. Your argument is intended to discredit christianity and it's Founder by interjecting false narratives that were not held by christians. BTW, I know what a true Bible believing Christian is. They weren't the poope's and Cardinals' inquisiting soldiers.
True words.
So, now Crappy Hamster has set himself up as the arbiter of who is a "true" Christian and who isn't, who is a reprobate and who isn't, as well as who is a sodomizer and who isn't. In his TBI muddled brain he seems to think he's quite powerful. His minions Old Hat, Ruger4Life seem to think a great reward awaits them for following this pathological lier to whatever end he meets. Good Luck!
That you fugging idiots have ruined it for millions and seem to like nothing more than causing divisions and strife.
Decidedly un-spiritual. You will have a lot to answer for.
Why do you avoid the question.
Why do you think anyone owes you an answer to such a personal question, especially knowing what kind of stupid ridicule you'll spout as an answer? You're as clueless as Crappy Hamster.
But was ok with having an Easter egg hunt on church property. I called him out on that one. lol He was sputtering like Sylvestor the cat.
Pastors should know better. Christians commonly celebrate the resurrection of Jesus Christ often throughout the year. Many set aside Easter on the calendar for recognizing the same resurrection following the sacrifice. To accommodate the pagan influence of fertility worship or practices is wrong. Hide and seek of children and prizes any other time of year just for fun and not as a pagan practice is one thing. But I don't think the Lord is pleased with us teaching children fertility games like the heathens.
Deuteronomy 11:28 "And a curse, if ye will not obey the commandments of the LORD your God, but turn aside out of the way which I command you this day, to go after other gods, which ye have not known."
18:9,10 "When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations. There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch...",
Do you even know the origin and the true meaning of Samhaim, commonly known as All Saints Day, All Hallows Day, and the Feast of All Saints. Do you know what happens on that day? Obviously you don't, but as usual, the Church Religious propaganda pushers spew their ignorance in some kind of proclomation and call it Christian truth. But oh boy, when Christmas gets here they are all about Winter Solstice with some of them knowing it was not the birth of Christ. Sad, so so sad.
I'm not going to waste my afternoon with you Grammer police who twist everything the Christians say and lie boldly without so much as a blush. Just so I don't repeat myself, that goes to the Con man, Pole smoker, knine, rastaman and every unbeliever that wants to jump on the flaming hay wagon to defend satanism, Halloween, trick or treating from a thoroughly unchristian, perspective... uninvited on this Christian thread.
LOL, Crappy's frothing at the mouth, foam all over his keyboard!
For the OP, lighten up, Francis. God knows your heart. Lots of bigger things to worry about. Like maybe all the hateful rhetoric posted online by some self described Christians. You might even have a splinter in your own eye.
So………you fee you can define someone as an ‘unbeliever’?
Does the statements of Jesus have any bearing on this world or the next?
John 3, Jesus said,
"That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."
I base my definition on who is or who is not a believer on what the Bible says in this one book exactly 💯 times.
Jesus excludes those who think that their good deeds/ works have anything to do with the Free Gift of Eternal Life that He offers to you and to everyone with ears to hear and eyes to read it. Details posted everywhere I post. Hint.... signature...V
Christians get more than a little tired of the preacher making everyday Sunday, and being told the are going to hell because they may question parts of the serman...
There are more than a few who are saved, know they are sinners and don't need it shoved into their face on a daily basis by the HC's of the world who think they have all the answers..
HC started slow and with time and posts, eventually reached the point he had to make the majority of his posts related to his "ministry". He even added a few shooting posts, thinking it would make him more readily accepted....All so obvious.....
8/16/21 – (H.C. narrowly escapes death at the hands of preachers.) “It reminds me of the time I was staying the week with some preachers while seeing a week at a Church near Fort Worth Texas. This was back when I taught Sunday school, but hadn't considered ever Preaching. At 3-4 AM I was woken up with a pillow crushed against my face and two of the preachers holding my arms down, so I would smother to death.”
Christians get more than a little tired of the preacher making everyday Sunday, and being told the are going to hell because they may question parts of the serman...
There are more than a few who are saved, know they are sinners and don't need it shoved into their face on a daily basis by the HC's of the world who think they have all the answers..
HC started slow and with time and posts, eventually reached the point he had to make the majority of his posts related to his "ministry". He even added a few shooting posts, thinking it would make him more readily accepted....All so obvious.....
Yes, he's quite the shooter! He's also quite the pathological lier.
6/23/20 – (HC single handedly wins concealed carry law for West Virginia by praying.) "I was invited to speak to the local Nazarene Church. Had no idea that the denomination took that stand. I used to carry concealed without the license. It was a big risk. One of my fellow ushers at the time came up to me to shake my hand and discreetly the other on my weapon to let me know that I was printing. I needed to use a different holster for summer carry.
Then started seriously praying for the Lord to intervene and motivate the state law makers to pass Vermont style carry laws, not just for handguns but for any weapons that God's people choose.
Guess what? He kindly responded to the request and we gained victory to do just that!!! Knives, batons, etc I was shocked! He is very kind and we are fortunate that He is our King. Feel free contact me, PM, anytime you want to pray for that to happen in your state."
6/30/20 - (HC finds that an AR15 is too much for him to handle) "I was told many moons ago that I shouldn't get an AR. I was told that you can't put them in the mud and expect them to run like you can an AK. Another did me the favor of letting me shoot his. I'm plinking away, and after a magazine or two I'm wondering why my trigger finger is sore? That's never happened before..... He told me that I must not be using it right. Ok then, show me how it's done. After seeing my trigger pulling technique was kosher, he said it's just something that I have to get used to. I never got one to see if I could get used to trigger slap."
7/22/20 – (The first time 8 year old HC shoots a rifle, it’s a 15 shot one hole group at 100 paces with an 8mm Mauser.) "Reminds me of getting yelled at my first time at a range. The first rifle that was put against my shoulder as an 8 y.o. boy was a 98 M in 8mm. My target had one hole after fully loading it around 3 times. It Made mom's second husband mad for wasting all that expensive ammo. Red face, yelling, cussing, not a good first experience. He thought I missed the target altogether until we went to get a close look. Not a bad rifle at 100 long paces."
8/16/21 – (H.C. narrowly escapes death at the hands of preachers.) “It reminds me of the time I was staying the week with some preachers while seeing a week at a Church near Fort Worth Texas. This was back when I taught Sunday school, but hadn't considered ever Preaching. At 3-4 AM I was woken up with a pillow crushed against my face and two of the preachers holding my arms down, so I would smother to death.”
And then.....
And he knew two others they killed prior....Now get ready....those Preachers were also medical Doctors who had killed others....
Christians get more than a little tired of the preacher making everyday Sunday, and being told the are going to hell because they may question parts of the serman...
There are more than a few who are saved, know they are sinners and don't need it shoved into their face on a daily basis by the HC's of the world who think they have all the answers..
HC started slow and with time and posts, eventually reached the point he had to make the majority of his posts related to his "ministry". He even added a few shooting posts, thinking it would make him more readily accepted....All so obvious.....
You get tired of the evangelical messages once on a Sunday, but Not tired of the vicious Names my Savior is called throughout the entire week. That says something about us both. There are Christians that listen and appreciate many of the messages I've been told. Those who don't want to listen, don't listen. It's normally posted Sunday and obvious by the title and by the video link. It's not like there aren't a million other posts for you to choose from on non Biblical topics. I wish I had the same foreknowledge to know to not enter a thread with God's Name blasphemed. I started posting sermons when most were home on Sundays due to the CV scare or a lack of good church in their areas.
You said, " Christians get more than a little tired of the preacher making everyday Sunday, and being told the are going to hell because they may question parts of the serman..."
Everyone sees that is a lie. They will not be deceived. There is one sin that people go to hell for in spite of the tens of thousands that are committed. Listen to the brief explanation in my signature.
8/16/21 – (H.C. narrowly escapes death at the hands of preachers.) “It reminds me of the time I was staying the week with some preachers while seeing a week at a Church near Fort Worth Texas. This was back when I taught Sunday school, but hadn't considered ever Preaching. At 3-4 AM I was woken up with a pillow crushed against my face and two of the preachers holding my arms down, so I would smother to death.”
They probably had the same damned spirits in them that is in YOU.
Conspiracy to commit murder?
"09/14/21 Originally Posted by rainshot He's been allowed to roam free for far too long. Get a rope.
I’ve noticed a pattern of this OP posting stuff I am not a fan of so the vast majority of the time I don’t even look.
When I do I find it interesting what I see.
Invariably you have HC doing his thing, and then there is a group of individuals saying that everyone is free to think whatever they want about religion, and that HC’s willingness to condemn people for their opinions means he is going to hell… or that there is a hot spot there for him… or something like that.
Let the circularity of that sink in please.
Its telling that people in a place that is predominantly Conservative/libertarian get caught up in this. We’re the ones who are supposed to stand for reasoned, civil debate at best, or at worst tolerance?
My parents repeated a mantra to me as a kid, “I may not agree with what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it.”
Doesn’t seem to be the ideal anymore, especially for those who most doggedly claim open mindedness as a first principle.
In 70 yrs. I have known a lot of Preachers, whether radio, TV, or at a pulpit, from Catholic, to Methodist, Church of Christ, Nazarene, Lutheran, Episcopalian, Pentecostal, Baptist, and a few I'm sure I've left out. All them have had the same issue, Oh brothers, I was called to Preach. Yes sir, God called me.....................and to that I say BS, just as God said in Jeremiah 23. I have yet seen or heard a God called Preacher and I've come to the conclusion that in the Land of the Blind they do not exist. I do know lots and lots of Preachers who have destroyed and scattered the Sheep thinking they knew what they know the Word.
You get tired of the evangelical messages once on a Sunday, but Not tired of the vicious Names my Savior is called throughout the entire week. That says something about us both. There are Christians that listen and appreciate many of the messages I've been told. Those who don't want to listen, don't listen. It's normally posted Sunday and obvious by the title and by the video link. It's not like there aren't a million other posts for you to choose from on non Biblical topics. I wish I had the same foreknowledge to know to not enter a thread with God's Name blasphemed. I started posting sermons when most were home on Sundays due to the CV scare or a lack of good church in their areas.
You said, " Christians get more than a little tired of the preacher making everyday Sunday, and being told the are going to hell because they may question parts of the serman..."
Everyone sees that is a lie. They will not be deceived. There is one sin that people go to hell for in spite of the tens of thousands that are committed. Listen to the brief explanation in my signature.
Please define "good church" so I can be sure all the ones in my area are fitting. I'm sure some will be deflated when I tell them their church is not "good" though.
You get tired of the evangelical messages once on a Sunday, but Not tired of the vicious Names my Savior is called throughout the entire week. That says something about us both. There are Christians that listen and appreciate many of the messages I've been told. Those who don't want to listen, don't listen. It's normally posted Sunday and obvious by the title and by the video link. It's not like there aren't a million other posts for you to choose from on non Biblical topics. I wish I had the same foreknowledge to know to not enter a thread with God's Name blasphemed. I started posting sermons when most were home on Sundays due to the CV scare or a lack of good church in their areas.
You said, " Christians get more than a little tired of the preacher making everyday Sunday, and being told the are going to hell because they may question parts of the serman..."
Everyone sees that is a lie. They will not be deceived. There is one sin that people go to hell for in spite of the tens of thousands that are committed. Listen to the brief explanation in my signature.
Please define "good church" so I can be sure all the ones in my area are fitting. I'm sure some will be deflated when I tell them their church is not "good" though.
First thing first...... Find a pastor who believes and preaches the clear message of the gospel uncluttered by works. The details are in the first 18 verses of John and described below in the links.
I Corinthians 15:1-4 "Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved,...For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures':
You said, " Christians get more than a little tired of the preacher making everyday Sunday, and being told the are going to hell because they may question parts of the serman..."
Everyone sees that is a lie.
So now you purport to speak for everyone??
You're more FOS than a Christmas turkey, don't presume to speak for me or anyone else on here, it's painfully obvious that you don't speak for most of us.
You get tired of the evangelical messages once on a Sunday, but Not tired of the vicious Names my Savior is called throughout the entire week. That says something about us both. There are Christians that listen and appreciate many of the messages I've been told. Those who don't want to listen, don't listen. It's normally posted Sunday and obvious by the title and by the video link. It's not like there aren't a million other posts for you to choose from on non Biblical topics. I wish I had the same foreknowledge to know to not enter a thread with God's Name blasphemed. I started posting sermons when most were home on Sundays due to the CV scare or a lack of good church in their areas.
You said, " Christians get more than a little tired of the preacher making everyday Sunday, and being told the are going to hell because they may question parts of the serman..."
Everyone sees that is a lie. They will not be deceived. There is one sin that people go to hell for in spite of the tens of thousands that are committed. Listen to the brief explanation in my signature.
Please define "good church" so I can be sure all the ones in my area are fitting. I'm sure some will be deflated when I tell them their church is not "good" though.
First thing first...... Find a pastor who believes and preaches the clear message of the gospel uncluttered by works. The details are in the first 18 verses of John and described below in the links.
I Corinthians 15:1-4 "Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved,...For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures':
\ Why would I want to follow a traitor, a Judas if you would?
So………you fee you can define someone as an ‘unbeliever’?
Does the statements of Jesus have any bearing on this world or the next?
John 3, Jesus said,
"That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."
I base my definition on who is or who is not a believer on what the Bible says in this one book exactly 💯 times.
Jesus excludes those who think that their good deeds/ works have anything to do with the Free Gift of Eternal Life that He offers to you and to everyone with ears to hear and eyes to read it. Details posted everywhere I post. Hint.... signature...V
Hint: I, and others apparently, don’t give a single sweet [bleep] about your signature, posts, or beliefs. I’ll be judged accordingly at the end, as will you. All the preaching you do here won’t open the gates.
You said, " Christians get more than a little tired of the preacher making everyday Sunday, and being told the are going to hell because they may question parts of the serman..."
Everyone sees that is a lie.
So now you purport to speak for everyone??
You're more FOS than a Christmas turkey, don't presume to speak for me or anyone else on here, it's painfully obvious that you don't speak for most of us.
It's obvious that HC speaks for very few here, and fewer with every thread like this. He's just a self absorbed, pompous, clueless, lier. Self appointed judge of all things religious here.
You get tired of the evangelical messages once on a Sunday, but Not tired of the vicious Names my Savior is called throughout the entire week. That says something about us both. There are Christians that listen and appreciate many of the messages I've been told. Those who don't want to listen, don't listen. It's normally posted Sunday and obvious by the title and by the video link. It's not like there aren't a million other posts for you to choose from on non Biblical topics. I wish I had the same foreknowledge to know to not enter a thread with God's Name blasphemed. I started posting sermons when most were home on Sundays due to the CV scare or a lack of good church in their areas.
You said, " Christians get more than a little tired of the preacher making everyday Sunday, and being told the are going to hell because they may question parts of the serman..."
Everyone sees that is a lie. They will not be deceived. There is one sin that people go to hell for in spite of the tens of thousands that are committed. Listen to the brief explanation in my signature.
Please define "good church" so I can be sure all the ones in my area are fitting. I'm sure some will be deflated when I tell them their church is not "good" though.
First thing first...... Find a pastor who believes and preaches the clear message of the gospel uncluttered by works. The details are in the first 18 verses of John and described below in the links.
I Corinthians 15:1-4 "Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved,...For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures':
OK, I'll go around and canvas them all, and get their answers...........................then run them by you to make sure the church they are preaching in is a "good church".
Next Sunday Crappy will present a sermon on how the Devil is in the turkeys and the Pilgrims were Satanists. The Salem Witch Trial judges were just practicing to become "Independent Baptists".
Maybe to save some time Geno, you could just find out if they are faithful followers of Brother Anderson.
They should come up with a special symbol to put over the church doors?
Maybe for evening services they could use a spot light like one, similar to the Bat Signal?
Would save a fella from having to run around trying to figure out which was the "good church". A person might just spend all their life looking, only to find out they done run outa time.
Christians get more than a little tired of the preacher making everyday Sunday, and being told the are going to hell because they may question parts of the serman...
There are more than a few who are saved, know they are sinners and don't need it shoved into their face on a daily basis by the HC's of the world who think they have all the answers..
HC started slow and with time and posts, eventually reached the point he had to make the majority of his posts related to his "ministry". He even added a few shooting posts, thinking it would make him more readily accepted....All so obvious.....
Yes, he's quite the shooter! He's also quite the pathological lier.
6/23/20 – (HC single handedly wins concealed carry law for West Virginia by praying.) "I was invited to speak to the local Nazarene Church. Had no idea that the denomination took that stand. I used to carry concealed without the license. It was a big risk. One of my fellow ushers at the time came up to me to shake my hand and discreetly the other on my weapon to let me know that I was printing. I needed to use a different holster for summer carry.
Then started seriously praying for the Lord to intervene and motivate the state law makers to pass Vermont style carry laws, not just for handguns but for any weapons that God's people choose.
Guess what? He kindly responded to the request and we gained victory to do just that!!! Knives, batons, etc I was shocked! He is very kind and we are fortunate that He is our King. Feel free contact me, PM, anytime you want to pray for that to happen in your state."
6/30/20 - (HC finds that an AR15 is too much for him to handle) "I was told many moons ago that I shouldn't get an AR. I was told that you can't put them in the mud and expect them to run like you can an AK. Another did me the favor of letting me shoot his. I'm plinking away, and after a magazine or two I'm wondering why my trigger finger is sore? That's never happened before..... He told me that I must not be using it right. Ok then, show me how it's done. After seeing my trigger pulling technique was kosher, he said it's just something that I have to get used to. I never got one to see if I could get used to trigger slap."
7/22/20 – (The first time 8 year old HC shoots a rifle, it’s a 15 shot one hole group at 100 paces with an 8mm Mauser.) "Reminds me of getting yelled at my first time at a range. The first rifle that was put against my shoulder as an 8 y.o. boy was a 98 M in 8mm. My target had one hole after fully loading it around 3 times. It Made mom's second husband mad for wasting all that expensive ammo. Red face, yelling, cussing, not a good first experience. He thought I missed the target altogether until we went to get a close look. Not a bad rifle at 100 long paces."
In 70 yrs. I have known a lot of Preachers, whether radio, TV, or at a pulpit, from Catholic, to Methodist, Church of Christ, Nazarene, Lutheran, Episcopalian, Pentecostal, Baptist, and a few I'm sure I've left out. All them have had the same issue, Oh brothers, I was called to Preach. Yes sir, God called me.....................and to that I say BS, just as God said in Jeremiah 23. I have yet seen or heard a God called Preacher and I've come to the conclusion that in the Land of the Blind they do not exist. I do know lots and lots of Preachers who have destroyed and scattered the Sheep thinking they knew what they know the Word.
I’ve noticed a pattern of this OP posting stuff I am not a fan of so the vast majority of the time I don’t even look.
When I do I find it interesting what I see.
Invariably you have HC doing his thing, and then there is a group of individuals saying that everyone is free to think whatever they want about religion, and that HC’s willingness to condemn people for their opinions means he is going to hell… or that there is a hot spot there for him… or something like that.
Let the circularity of that sink in please.
Its telling that people in a place that is predominantly Conservative/libertarian get caught up in this. We’re the ones who are supposed to stand for reasoned, civil debate at best, or at worst tolerance?
My parents repeated a mantra to me as a kid, “I may not agree with what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it.”
Doesn’t seem to be the ideal anymore, especially for those who most doggedly claim open mindedness as a first principle.
Very good points. From what I've read halloween is a pagan holiday. So I see no connection to it and the church. There seems to be a deeper problem in the church world today though. We have more programs for this or that and have elaborate and costly buildings yet our nation is diving deeper into sin. Many here opine the state of America and our gutless leaders and many of those same people tear into the OP as often as possible. So what can be done to fix what's wrong with America? The simple answer is an honest to goodness conversion that Jesus Christ died on the cross for. If everyone made Christ the center of their lives many of the problems we see would be gone. Now back to bashing whoever and forget about any honest debate about fixing things.
Maybe to save some time Geno, you could just find out if they are faithful followers of Brother Anderson.
They should come up with a special symbol to put over the church doors?
Maybe for evening services they could use a spot light like one, similar to the Bat Signal?
Would save a fella from having to run around trying to figure out which was the "good church". A person might just spend all their life looking, only to find out they done run outa time.
6/23/20 – (HC single handedly wins concealed carry law for West Virginia by praying.) "I was invited to speak to the local Nazarene Church. Had no idea that the denomination took that stand. I used to go commando without my shorts. It was a big risk. One of my fellow ushers at the time came up to me to shake my hand and discreetly the other on my dick to let me know that I was printing. I needed to use a different undies for summer.Then the Lord provided me with Duluth Trading Company shorts.My boys did not print anymore.Praise The Lord.
You get tired of the evangelical messages once on a Sunday, but Not tired of the vicious Names my Savior is called throughout the entire week. That says something about us both. There are Christians that listen and appreciate many of the messages I've been told. Those who don't want to listen, don't listen. It's normally posted Sunday and obvious by the title and by the video link. It's not like there aren't a million other posts for you to choose from on non Biblical topics. I wish I had the same foreknowledge to know to not enter a thread with God's Name blasphemed. I started posting sermons when most were home on Sundays due to the CV scare or a lack of good church in their areas.
You said, " Christians get more than a little tired of the preacher making everyday Sunday, and being told the are going to hell because they may question parts of the serman..."
Everyone sees that is a lie. They will not be deceived. There is one sin that people go to hell for in spite of the tens of thousands that are committed. Listen to the brief explanation in my signature.
Please define "good church" so I can be sure all the ones in my area are fitting. I'm sure some will be deflated when I tell them their church is not "good" though.
First thing first...... Find a pastor who believes and preaches the clear message of the gospel uncluttered by works. The details are in the first 18 verses of John and described below in the links.
I Corinthians 15:1-4 "Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved,...For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures':
OK, I'll go around and canvas them all, and get their answers...........................then run them by you to make sure the church they are preaching in is a "good church".
That's your job. You asked a question and I can offer guidance from God's Word. I can't decide for you. Every decision is your own. Im not the one who has to live in your shoes.
Just to set it on my deck and what it transform into a pile of goo come a few hard freezes.
I like pumpkins too, but they sure don't keep nearly as long as a good winter squash. I plan on chunking and sticking mine in the freezer tomorrow evening. Sometimes it's hard to tell when they are starting to go.
And not what others think I should beleive per their own beliefs...
And I don't believe in all the spin off series branches of christianity, nor the various bibles man has, created, cut, copied, added too, or deleted thruout the centuries to suit his own purposes or too create his own branches of christianity.
Usually done by those of influence seeking power or Benjamins for ages.... That answer your question???? Next!!!!!
Like everything else you retards get involved in, you have fugged up spirituality as well.
Thats the kind of stuff God hates.
What do you believe about spirituality?
What I have found is that the vast majority of people on the internet will not say what they believe about spirituality because they know it will not hold up under scrutiny.
Do you really think that other's spirituality is any of your business? Who appointed you as the arbiter of "true spirituality?"
Who made you the judge of "the vast majority of people on the internet?"
You are also claiming to be an arbiter of correctness as well, obviously. You judge truth and fiction everyday in volume. This entire forum is one big sht show of people judging the rights and wrongs of society. The depth of ignorance on the campfire is stunning. People have no ability to self analyze their own words.
I don't ask because anything is "my business" ... "nanana boo boo". LOL I ask because it is obvious the forum is a crew of gad flies. No one here has any ability to logically support their own beliefs. They believe non sense and then cast stones at Christ.
Quite a difference between carving a Jack O Lantern and seeing the grandkids in their costumes....
Or
Slaughtering a goat, smearing your body with blood and dancing around a fire under the moonlight singing praise to Pan.
That is a fair point. I don't think it is a sin to send the kids off to trick or treat.
On the other hand teaching them the truth from the beginning and not hiding what is really going on is also not good at all. Once people know and believe what is really going on I find people who love the Lord Jesus Christ naturally want to disassociate from such a horrid holiday.
Do you teach your kids that Christmas was originally a pagan holiday? Do you want christians to disassociate from it too?
Yes, I have told my loved ones that Christmas and Easter have pagan trappings. I already answered your second question.
Just to set it on my deck and what it transform into a pile of goo come a few hard freezes.
I like pumpkins too, but they sure don't keep nearly as long as a good winter squash. I plan on chunking and sticking mine in the freezer tomorrow evening. Sometimes it's hard to tell when they are starting to go.
My wife and I are debating on what to do with 3 nice fresh pumpkins we have now. We need to decide soon. I want to can some pumpkin pie filing, but she says it is way to much and a waste of time. She is always right. LOL
Phaggy Camper is not only the biggest liar on this site but he also inserts his supposed faith and Gods name into his constant lies. Still the other holy roller idiots have his back which makes them all one steaming pile of schit. JMHO
these are the type of people to be leery of and watch out for.......these are the false prophets and deceivers of men.....bob
8/16/21 – (H.C. narrowly escapes death at the hands of preachers.) “It reminds me of the time I was staying the week with some preachers while seeing a week at a Church near Fort Worth Texas. This was back when I taught Sunday school, but hadn't considered ever Preaching. At 3-4 AM I was woken up with a pillow crushed against my face and two of the preachers holding my arms down, so I would smother to death.”
They probably had the same damned spirits in them that is in YOU.
Conspiracy to commit murder?
"09/14/21 Originally Posted by rainshot He's been allowed to roam free for far too long. Get a rope.
NVhntr posted: Happy Camper?? I agree."
Just helping you earn your martyr badge! 👍 You can thank me later.
Quite a difference between carving a Jack O Lantern and seeing the grandkids in their costumes....
Or
Slaughtering a goat, smearing your body with blood and dancing around a fire under the moonlight singing praise to Pan.
That is a fair point. I don't think it is a sin to send the kids off to trick or treat.
On the other hand teaching them the truth from the beginning and not hiding what is really going on is also not good at all. Once people know and believe what is really going on I find people who love the Lord Jesus Christ naturally want to disassociate from such a horrid holiday.
Do you teach your kids that Christmas was originally a pagan holiday? Do you want christians to disassociate from it too?
Yes, I have told my loved ones that Christmas and Easter have pagan trappings. I already answered your second question.
Did you tell them that you are a lying piece of schit too? Suddenly you are all up on the Pagan....
6/23/20 – (HC single handedly wins concealed carry law for West Virginia by praying.) "I was invited to speak to the local Nazarene Church. Had no idea that the denomination took that stand. I used to go commando without my shorts. It was a big risk. One of my fellow ushers at the time came up to me to shake my hand and discreetly the other on my dick to let me know that I was printing. I needed to use a different undies for summer.Then the Lord provided me with Duluth Trading Company shorts. My boys did not print anymore. Praise The Lord.
6/23/20 – (HC single handedly wins concealed carry law for West Virginia by praying.) "I was invited to speak to the local Nazarene Church. Had no idea that the denomination took that stand. I used to go commando without my shorts. It was a big risk. One of my fellow ushers at the time came up to me to shake my hand and discreetly the other on my dick to let me know that I was printing. I needed to use a different undies for summer.Then the Lord provided me with Duluth Trading Company shorts. My boys did not print anymore. Praise The Lord.
Like everything else you retards get involved in, you have fugged up spirituality as well.
Thats the kind of stuff God hates.
What do you believe about spirituality?
What I have found is that the vast majority of people on the internet will not say what they believe about spirituality because they know it will not hold up under scrutiny.
Do you really think that other's spirituality is any of your business? Who appointed you as the arbiter of "true spirituality?"
Who made you the judge of "the vast majority of people on the internet?"
You are also claiming to be an arbiter of correctness as well, obviously. You judge truth and fiction everyday in volume. This entire forum is one big sht show of people judging the rights and wrongs of society. The depth of ignorance on the campfire is stunning. People have no ability to self analyze their own words.
I don't ask because anything is "my business" ... "nanana boo boo". LOL I ask because it is obvious the forum is a crew of gad flies. No one here has any ability to logically support their own beliefs. They believe non sense and then cast stones at Christ.
Plain, unadulterated bullsh*t.
The only ones I'm "casting stones " at are you and happy. And you'll never find me criticizing or asking another to defend his spirituality. I'll leave that to you two.
Like everything else you retards get involved in, you have fugged up spirituality as well.
Thats the kind of stuff God hates.
What do you believe about spirituality?
What I have found is that the vast majority of people on the internet will not say what they believe about spirituality because they know it will not hold up under scrutiny.
Do you really think that other's spirituality is any of your business? Who appointed you as the arbiter of "true spirituality?"
Who made you the judge of "the vast majority of people on the internet?"
You are also claiming to be an arbiter of correctness as well, obviously. You judge truth and fiction everyday in volume. This entire forum is one big sht show of people judging the rights and wrongs of society. The depth of ignorance on the campfire is stunning. People have no ability to self analyze their own words.
I don't ask because anything is "my business" ... "nanana boo boo". LOL I ask because it is obvious the forum is a crew of gad flies. No one here has any ability to logically support their own beliefs. They believe non sense and then cast stones at Christ.
Plain, unadulterated bullsh*t.
The only ones I'm "casting stones " at are you and happy. And you'll never find me criticizing or asking another to defend his spirituality. I'll leave that to you two.
They believe they are seated at the right hand of the Father.
Like everything else you retards get involved in, you have fugged up spirituality as well.
Thats the kind of stuff God hates.
What do you believe about spirituality?
What I have found is that the vast majority of people on the internet will not say what they believe about spirituality because they know it will not hold up under scrutiny.
Do you really think that other's spirituality is any of your business? Who appointed you as the arbiter of "true spirituality?"
Who made you the judge of "the vast majority of people on the internet?"
You are also claiming to be an arbiter of correctness as well, obviously. You judge truth and fiction everyday in volume. This entire forum is one big sht show of people judging the rights and wrongs of society. The depth of ignorance on the campfire is stunning. People have no ability to self analyze their own words.
I don't ask because anything is "my business" ... "nanana boo boo". LOL I ask because it is obvious the forum is a crew of gad flies. No one here has any ability to logically support their own beliefs. They believe non sense and then cast stones at Christ.
No one here is casting stones at Christ. The stones are being cast at asshats like Crappy Hamper and you. Why do you two keep lying about who these comments are aimed at when you know damned well who?
6/23/20 – (HC single handedly wins concealed carry law for West Virginia by praying.) "I was invited to speak to the local Nazarene Church. Had no idea that the denomination took that stand. I used to go commando without my shorts. It was a big risk. One of my fellow ushers at the time came up to me to shake my hand and discreetly the other on my dick to let me know that I was printing. I needed to use a different undies for summer.Then the Lord provided me with Duluth Trading Company shorts.My boys did not print anymore.Praise The Lord.
Just to set it on my deck and what it transform into a pile of goo come a few hard freezes.
I like pumpkins too, but they sure don't keep nearly as long as a good winter squash. I plan on chunking and sticking mine in the freezer tomorrow evening. Sometimes it's hard to tell when they are starting to go.
My wife and I are debating on what to do with 3 nice fresh pumpkins we have now. We need to decide soon. I want to can some pumpkin pie filing, but she says it is way to much and a waste of time. She is always right. LOL
LoL! Can't beat pumpkin pie. Just ask her to keep making pie filling for as many as it takes. You'll take care of the rest. I don't like to can and will only freeze it to keep it right now. I just need to use it soon so there's room for game. At least that's the plan.
Just to set it on my deck and what it transform into a pile of goo come a few hard freezes.
I like pumpkins too, but they sure don't keep nearly as long as a good winter squash. I plan on chunking and sticking mine in the freezer tomorrow evening. Sometimes it's hard to tell when they are starting to go.
My wife and I are debating on what to do with 3 nice fresh pumpkins we have now. We need to decide soon. I want to can some pumpkin pie filing, but she says it is way to much and a waste of time. She is always right. LOL
LoL! Can't beat pumpkin pie. Just ask her to keep making pie filling for as many as it takes. You'll take care of the rest. I don't like to can and will only freeze it to keep it right now. I just need to use it soon so there's room for game. At least that's the plan.
Happy be like, "let's just talk about pumpkins........".
All holidays are metaphorical... none are Godly or unGodly. If you believe a day or hour or minute or second or millisecond is more Godly than another, you are to invested in the physical over the spiritual. The following of Christ isn't a calendar or clock to circle or set the alarm on.
Anyway Halloween, today's halloween came from all souls day... souling and guising, masquerading as ghosts... poor accepting gifts to pray for the souls of dead relatives of the rich. This was church sponsored, there is no 'holiday' for satan or witchcraft. Trick or treating started and was pushed hard by the candy producers in the mid 1900s.
But was ok with having an Easter egg hunt on church property. I called him out on that one. lol He was sputtering like Sylvestor the cat.
Pastors should know better. Christians commonly celebrate the resurrection of Jesus Christ often throughout the year. Many set aside Easter on the calendar for recognizing the same resurrection following the sacrifice. To accommodate the pagan influence of fertility worship or practices is wrong. Hide and seek of children and prizes any other time of year just for fun and not as a pagan practice is one thing. But I don't think the Lord is pleased with us teaching children fertility games like the heathens.
Deuteronomy 11:28 "And a curse, if ye will not obey the commandments of the LORD your God, but turn aside out of the way which I command you this day, to go after other gods, which ye have not known."
18:9,10 "When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations. There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch...",
Do you even know the origin and the true meaning of Samhaim, commonly known as All Saints Day, All Hallows Day, and the Feast of All Saints. Do you know what happens on that day? Obviously you don't, but as usual, the Church Religious propaganda pushers spew their ignorance in some kind of proclomation and call it Christian truth. But oh boy, when Christmas gets here they are all about Winter Solstice with some of them knowing it was not the birth of Christ. Sad, so so sad.
You are wrong about the origin. The origin of Samhain is Gaelic festival for the harvest and has to do with pagan Celtic festivals. In the 9th century the Irish who observed. The Church had shifted the date of All Saints' Day to 1 November, while 2 November later became All Souls' Day. Over time, it is believed that Samhain and All Saints'/All Souls' influenced each other, and eventually syncretised into the modern Halloween.Folklorists have used the name 'Samhain' to refer to Gaelic 'Halloween' customs up until the 19th century. Since the later 20th century, Celtic neopagans and Wiccans have observed Samhain, or something based on it, as a religious holiday. This is similar to Christmas which Constantine inserted into a pagan festival also. It is apparent that if the shepard's were watching their flocks by night as the story informs us of, that they would not be in the open fields during the coldest time of the year. They would be tending the flock in an enclosure at home.
All holidays are metaphorical... none are Godly or unGodly. If you believe a day or hour or minute or second or millisecond is more Godly than another, you are to invested in the physical over the spiritual. The following of Christ isn't a calendar or clock to circle or set the alarm on.
Anyway Halloween, today's halloween came from all souls day... souling and guising, masquerading as ghosts... poor accepting gifts to pray for the souls of dead relatives of the rich. This was church sponsored, there is no 'holiday' for satan or witchcraft. Trick or treating started and was pushed hard by the candy producers in the mid 1900s.
Kent
Metaphors are symbols. That is why they are metaphors. The spiritual is all about symbols. This is very, very clear if you spend any time studying any/all religions. Symbols are used to communicate extensively. Halloween is not wrong because of the day or the second. Halloween is wrong because of what it signifies. satan comminicates in symbols. The occult communicates in symbols. He is all about profaning the simple things in life.
Dig deeper all souls day is a pagan knockoff involving the occult. It was added to satisfy the pagans. I gave the link above. It is easy to find. Goodfight ministries is a good start.
All holidays are metaphorical... none are Godly or unGodly. If you believe a day or hour or minute or second or millisecond is more Godly than another, you are to invested in the physical over the spiritual. The following of Christ isn't a calendar or clock to circle or set the alarm on.
Sound wisdom.
Does not all of creation…including the days themselves…display God’s design, power, and goodness…?
Does “This is the day that the Lord has made; let us rejoice and be glad in it” only apply to some days and not others, or does it apply to all days…?
Phaggy Camper is not only the biggest liar on this site but he also inserts his supposed faith and Gods name into his constant lies. Still the other holy roller idiots have his back which makes them all one steaming pile of schit. JMHO
these are the type of people to be leery of and watch out for.......these are the false prophets and deceivers of men.....bob
And not what others think I should beleive per their own beliefs...
And I don't believe in all the spin off series branches of christianity, nor the various bibles man has, created, cut, copied, added too, or deleted thruout the centuries to suit his own purposes or too create his own branches of christianity.
Usually done by those of influence seeking power or Benjamins for ages.... That answer your question???? Next!!!!!
So yours is a "spin off series branch".
No..... I have said numerous times on here and you know it. I was baptized Roman Catholic. And will die a Roman Catholic. Don't mean I support the Catholic Church or any christain denomination.
Unlike you and many others on here trying to make your beliefs everyones beliefs or else you burn in Hades....
I have lived and witnessed 1st hand the conflict and death, religion has caused on this planet. Some of you guys just dont know schit,,, other than what is in your zealot minds.
Judge not, yet ye be judged.
That sound familar??? Go look in the mirror and say it 3 times......
All holidays are metaphorical... none are Godly or unGodly. If you believe a day or hour or minute or second or millisecond is more Godly than another, you are to invested in the physical over the spiritual. The following of Christ isn't a calendar or clock to circle or set the alarm on.
Anyway Halloween, today's halloween came from all souls day... souling and guising, masquerading as ghosts... poor accepting gifts to pray for the souls of dead relatives of the rich. This was church sponsored, there is no 'holiday' for satan or witchcraft. Trick or treating started and was pushed hard by the candy producers in the mid 1900s.
Kent
Metaphors are symbols. That is why they are metaphors. The spiritual is all about symbols. This is very, very clear if you spend any time studying any/all religions. Symbols are used to communicate extensively. Halloween is not wrong because of the day or the second. Halloween is wrong because of what it signifies. satan comminicates in symbols. The occult communicates in symbols. He is all about profaning the simple things in life.
Dig deeper all souls day is a pagan knockoff involving the occult. It was added to satisfy the pagans. I gave the link above. It is easy to find. Goodfight ministries is a good start.
Dump Wikipedia.
When debating OldHat you need to only use OldHat's links. LOL
All holidays are metaphorical... none are Godly or unGodly. If you believe a day or hour or minute or second or millisecond is more Godly than another, you are to invested in the physical over the spiritual. The following of Christ isn't a calendar or clock to circle or set the alarm on.
Anyway Halloween, today's halloween came from all souls day... souling and guising, masquerading as ghosts... poor accepting gifts to pray for the souls of dead relatives of the rich. This was church sponsored, there is no 'holiday' for satan or witchcraft. Trick or treating started and was pushed hard by the candy producers in the mid 1900s.
Kent
Metaphors are symbols. That is why they are metaphors. The spiritual is all about symbols. This is very, very clear if you spend any time studying any/all religions. Symbols are used to communicate extensively. Halloween is not wrong because of the day or the second. Halloween is wrong because of what it signifies. satan comminicates in symbols. The occult communicates in symbols. He is all about profaning the simple things in life.
Dig deeper all souls day is a pagan knockoff involving the occult. It was added to satisfy the pagans. I gave the link above. It is easy to find. Goodfight ministries is a good start.
Dump Wikipedia.
The depth and breadth of your ignorance is astounding.
Just to set it on my deck and what it transform into a pile of goo come a few hard freezes.
I like pumpkins too, but they sure don't keep nearly as long as a good winter squash. I plan on chunking and sticking mine in the freezer tomorrow evening. Sometimes it's hard to tell when they are starting to go.
My wife and I are debating on what to do with 3 nice fresh pumpkins we have now. We need to decide soon. I want to can some pumpkin pie filing, but she says it is way to much and a waste of time. She is always right. LOL
Slumlord lulling the gullible in again... False sense of security/allies stuff
And people always fall for it... Multiple times too....
Always bites em in the Azz down the line. Set up like bowling pins.
Too cheap to buy the daughter a fairy princess costume and a bag of Snicker bars for the neighborhood kids?
Just leave the porch light off and the front door locked, let your kid cry herself to sleep that night, and lecture everyone about how they're going to hell for trick or treating. Problem solved.
Just to set it on my deck and what it transform into a pile of goo come a few hard freezes.
I like pumpkins too, but they sure don't keep nearly as long as a good winter squash. I plan on chunking and sticking mine in the freezer tomorrow evening. Sometimes it's hard to tell when they are starting to go.
My wife and I are debating on what to do with 3 nice fresh pumpkins we have now. We need to decide soon. I want to can some pumpkin pie filing, but she says it is way to much and a waste of time. She is always right. LOL
LoL! Can't beat pumpkin pie. Just ask her to keep making pie filling for as many as it takes. You'll take care of the rest. I don't like to can and will only freeze it to keep it right now. I just need to use it soon so there's room for game. At least that's the plan.
Slumlord is my online friend I can bounce off of for some cred.
Slumlord is playing you like a puppet HC.
If you only knew..... If you only knew..... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😄😄😄🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😄😄😄😄😄
Just to set it on my deck and what it transform into a pile of goo come a few hard freezes.
I like pumpkins too, but they sure don't keep nearly as long as a good winter squash. I plan on chunking and sticking mine in the freezer tomorrow evening. Sometimes it's hard to tell when they are starting to go.
My wife and I are debating on what to do with 3 nice fresh pumpkins we have now. We need to decide soon. I want to can some pumpkin pie filing, but she says it is way to much and a waste of time. She is always right. LOL
LoL! Can't beat pumpkin pie. Just ask her to keep making pie filling for as many as it takes. You'll take care of the rest. I don't like to can and will only freeze it to keep it right now. I just need to use it soon so there's room for game. At least that's the plan.
Happy be like, "let's just talk about pumpkins........".
Hey AS. You’ve not been around for awhile. Hope all is good. Welcome back.
You know who Bart Ehrman is, and you know he’s an agnostic scholar whose writings frequently speak out against Christianity and its truth claims. He says “Whether we like it or not, Jesus certainly existed.”
Ehrman, Bart D. (2012). Did Jesus Exist?: The Historical Argument for Jesus of Nazareth. HarperOne. ISBN 978-0062206442.
6/23/20 – (HC single handedly wins concealed carry law for West Virginia by praying.) "I was invited to speak to the local Nazarene Church. Had no idea that the denomination took that stand. I used to go commando without my shorts. It was a big risk. One of my fellow ushers at the time came up to me to shake my hand and discreetly the other on my dick to let me know that I was printing. I needed to use a different undies for summer.Then the Lord provided me with Duluth Trading Company shorts. My boys did not print anymore. Praise The Lord.
Your playing aloof. Everyone see,s the connection when I use it. A full of himself wrestler and a full of himself "preacher" with the same last name.
Next......
And perhaps they're both acts for the obtaining of "fame", a component of "pride" which if I remember correctly is on some list of things which are big no-no's
Hey AS. You’ve not been around for awhile. Hope all is good. Welcome back.
You know who Bart Ehrman is, and you know he’s an agnostic scholar whose writings frequently speak out against Christianity and its truth claims. He says “Whether we like it or not, Jesus certainly existed.”
Ehrman, Bart D. (2012). Did Jesus Exist?: The Historical Argument for Jesus of Nazareth. HarperOne. ISBN 978-0062206442.
And according to oral history recorded centuries later was probably an OK guy?
All holidays are metaphorical... none are Godly or unGodly. If you believe a day or hour or minute or second or millisecond is more Godly than another, you are to invested in the physical over the spiritual. The following of Christ isn't a calendar or clock to circle or set the alarm on.
Anyway Halloween, today's halloween came from all souls day... souling and guising, masquerading as ghosts... poor accepting gifts to pray for the souls of dead relatives of the rich. This was church sponsored, there is no 'holiday' for satan or witchcraft. Trick or treating started and was pushed hard by the candy producers in the mid 1900s.
Kent
Metaphors are symbols. That is why they are metaphors. The spiritual is all about symbols. This is very, very clear if you spend any time studying any/all religions. Symbols are used to communicate extensively. Halloween is not wrong because of the day or the second. Halloween is wrong because of what it signifies. satan comminicates in symbols. The occult communicates in symbols. He is all about profaning the simple things in life.
Dig deeper all souls day is a pagan knockoff involving the occult. It was added to satisfy the pagans. I gave the link above. It is easy to find. Goodfight ministries is a good start.
Dump Wikipedia.
The depth and breadth of your ignorance is astounding.
Did OldHat really say... The spiritual is all about symbols... holy chit... metaphorically... or maybe not metaphorically.
Your playing aloof. Everyone see,s the connection when I use it. A full of himself wrestler and a full of himself "preacher" with the same last name.
Next......
And perhaps they're both acts for the obtaining of "fame", a component of "pride" which if I remember correctly is on some list of things which are big no-no's
And according to oral history recorded centuries later was probably an OK guy?
Interestingly enough, Bart Ehrman also says “With respect to Jesus, we have numerous, independent accounts of his life in the sources lying behind the Gospels (and the writings of Paul) -- sources that originated in Jesus' native tongue Aramaic and that can be dated to within just a year or two of his life (before the religion moved to convert pagans in droves). Historical sources like that are is pretty astounding for an ancient figure of any kind. Moreover, we have relatively extensive writings from one first-century author, Paul, who acquired his information within a couple of years of Jesus' life and who actually knew, first hand, Jesus' closest disciple Peter and his own brother James.”
Ehrman, Bart D. (2012). Did Jesus Exist?: The Historical Argument for Jesus of Nazareth. HarperOne. ISBN 978-0062206442.
Phaggy Camper is not only the biggest liar on this site but he also inserts his supposed faith and Gods name into his constant lies. Still the other holy roller idiots have his back which makes them all one steaming pile of schit. JMHO
these are the type of people to be leery of and watch out for.......these are the false prophets and deceivers of men.....bob
Whoa! The juvenile, drunken, overgrown bullying adolescents are out in force tonight! Enjoy ridiculing and hating on a person like HC, that seems to be sincere in his convictions. You must feel like real men for your courage in attacking others that are defenseless, because they won’t fight back. Sleep good men!
And according to oral history recorded centuries later was probably an OK guy?
Interestingly enough, Bart Ehrman also says “With respect to Jesus, we have numerous, independent accounts of his life in the sources lying behind the Gospels (and the writings of Paul) -- sources that originated in Jesus' native tongue Aramaic and that can be dated to within just a year or two of his life (before the religion moved to convert pagans in droves). Historical sources like that are is pretty astounding for an ancient figure of any kind. Moreover, we have relatively extensive writings from one first-century author, Paul, who acquired his information within a couple of years of Jesus' life and who actually knew, first hand, Jesus' closest disciple Peter and his own brother James.”
Ehrman, Bart D. (2012). Did Jesus Exist?: The Historical Argument for Jesus of Nazareth. HarperOne. ISBN 978-0062206442.
Interesting.
How credible is the Ehrman guy? He documents those "sources" in his book? If so, I may want to pick up a copy for my reading pleasure.
Whoa! The juvenile, drunken, overgrown bullying adolescents are out in force tonight! Enjoy ridiculing and hating on a person like HC, that seems to be sincere in his convictions. You must feel like real men for your courage in attacking others that are defenseless, because they won’t fight back. Sleep good men!
Do you believe the story where floppy_clamster was nearly smothered to death by a couple priests?
I knew your drunken, stupid azz would chime in NVcunter! Thanks for your minus-two-cents worth! Please, reply. That way I can expose your stupidity and blind, senseless hate for everyone to see
And according to oral history recorded centuries later was probably an OK guy?
Interestingly enough, Bart Ehrman also says “With respect to Jesus, we have numerous, independent accounts of his life in the sources lying behind the Gospels (and the writings of Paul) -- sources that originated in Jesus' native tongue Aramaic and that can be dated to within just a year or two of his life (before the religion moved to convert pagans in droves). Historical sources like that are is pretty astounding for an ancient figure of any kind. Moreover, we have relatively extensive writings from one first-century author, Paul, who acquired his information within a couple of years of Jesus' life and who actually knew, first hand, Jesus' closest disciple Peter and his own brother James.”
Ehrman, Bart D. (2012). Did Jesus Exist?: The Historical Argument for Jesus of Nazareth. HarperOne. ISBN 978-0062206442.
Interesting.
How credible is the Ehrman guy? He documents those "sources" in his book? If so, I may want to pick up a copy for my reading pleasure.
He is VERY CREDIBLE for wannabe atheists that are too lazy to research what is true and factual for themselves
I knew your drunken, stupid azz would chime in NVcunter! Thanks for your minus-two-cents worth! Please, reply. That way I can expose your stupidity and blind, senseless hate for everyone to see
And according to oral history recorded centuries later was probably an OK guy?
Interestingly enough, Bart Ehrman also says “With respect to Jesus, we have numerous, independent accounts of his life in the sources lying behind the Gospels (and the writings of Paul) -- sources that originated in Jesus' native tongue Aramaic and that can be dated to within just a year or two of his life (before the religion moved to convert pagans in droves). Historical sources like that are is pretty astounding for an ancient figure of any kind. Moreover, we have relatively extensive writings from one first-century author, Paul, who acquired his information within a couple of years of Jesus' life and who actually knew, first hand, Jesus' closest disciple Peter and his own brother James.”
Ehrman, Bart D. (2012). Did Jesus Exist?: The Historical Argument for Jesus of Nazareth. HarperOne. ISBN 978-0062206442.
Interesting.
How credible is the Ehrman guy? He documents those "sources" in his book? If so, I may want to pick up a copy for my reading pleasure.
He is VERY CREDIBLE for wannabe atheists that are too lazy to research what is true and factual for themselves
I'm not impressed. The Herman guy is a skilled debater, but he denies obvious fundamentals of the Scriptures.
Actually I believe the Epistles and books of the Bible are the credible documents from God to mankind.
"The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever."
I knew your drunken, stupid azz would chime in NVcunter! Thanks for your minus-two-cents worth! Please, reply. That way I can expose your stupidity and blind, senseless hate for everyone to see
I knew your drunken, stupid azz would chime in NVcunter! Thanks for your minus-two-cents worth! Please, reply. That way I can expose your stupidity and blind, senseless hate for everyone to see
Mirror mirror on the wall, who is most hateful of them all.
I knew your drunken, stupid azz would chime in NVcunter! Thanks for your minus-two-cents worth! Please, reply. That way I can expose your stupidity and blind, senseless hate for everyone to see
You seem unaware of what is happening here. Booze, weed, or just retarded?
And the mocking and ridicule of Christians goes on…and on..
Be interesting to see which side they come down on when it comes down to the nut cutting. My bet is they will come down against Trump, Washington, Jefferson and Christianity and side with Zero, Biden, Piglosi, Allah and Muhammad Ali.
I knew your drunken, stupid azz would chime in NVcunter! Thanks for your minus-two-cents worth! Please, reply. That way I can expose your stupidity and blind, senseless hate for everyone to see
Pot calling out the Kettle.
No, it's the other way around. The uninvited trolls crash the Christian threads. A Christian or two stands up to some [bleep]. The [bleep] cries foul and his troll buddies holler, "No fair! You aren't allowed to be meanies!"
And the mocking and ridicule of Christians goes on…and on..
Be interesting to see which side they come down on when it comes down to the nut cutting. My bet is they will come down against Trump, Washington, Jefferson and Christianity and side with Zero, Biden, Piglosi, Allah and Muhammad Ali.
Right. If someone doesn't agree with you, they're a commie Biden supporter.
And the mocking and ridicule of Christians goes on…and on..
Be interesting to see which side they come down on when it comes down to the nut cutting. My bet is they will come down against Trump, Washington, Jefferson and Christianity and side with Zero, Biden, Piglosi, Allah and Muhammad Ali.
You also seem unaware of what is happening here. In your case I know it's booze.
It’s beyond laughable that the CampFire has become the pulpit for screech preaching from Glamper. He’s got a couple of disciples that always show up to provide seating assignments before switching into character as the Oracle’s of faith accuracy.
I'm not impressed. The Ehrman guy is a skilled debater, but he denies obvious fundamentals of the Scriptures.
He graduated from Moody Bible Institute with a degree in Bible Theology. He learned to read the ancient languages that the Bible manuscripts were written in, including Biblical Greek, and he’s read and studied the oldest copies that we have. Extensively. He got his B.A. from Wheaton, and his M.Div. and Ph.D from Princeton Theological Seminary; his baccalaureate and doctorate were conferred magna cum laude. These significant accomplishments were all to expand his knowledge and deepen his faith as a born-again Evangelical Christian. He taught at Rutgers, and now he teaches for the Department of Religious Studies at UNC Chapel Hill. I see his biography as being very impressive.
Originally Posted by Happy_Camper
Actually I believe the Epistles and books of the Bible are the credible documents from God to mankind.
It’s likely that the overwhelming majority of people who profess to be Christians believe that very thing as well. I don’t think most people…believers or not…have much of a problem with people choosing to believe that.
I'm not impressed. The Ehrman guy is a skilled debater, but he denies obvious fundamentals of the Scriptures.
He graduated from Moody Bible Institute with a degree in Bible Theology. He learned to read the ancient languages that the Bible manuscripts were written in, including Biblical Greek, and he’s read and studied the oldest copies that we have. Extensively. He got his B.A. from Wheaton, and his M.Div. and Ph.D from Princeton Theological Seminary; his baccalaureate and doctorate were conferred magna cum laude. These significant accomplishments were all to expand his knowledge and deepen his faith as a born-again Evangelical Christian. He taught at Rutgers, and now he teaches for the Department of Religious Studies at UNC Chapel Hill. I see his biography as being very impressive.
Originally Posted by Happy_Camper
Actually I believe the Epistles and books of the Bible are the credible documents from God to mankind.
It’s likely that the overwhelming majority of people who profess to be Christians believe that very thing as well. I don’t think anyone…believers or not…has much of a problem with people choosing to believe that.
“Credentials” and “degrees” ain’t worth spit if you are biased or are brainwashed into defending your pre-conceived notions. Common sense and Spirit-led intuition are more important factors
“Credentials” and “degrees” ain’t worth spit if you are biased or are brainwashed into defending your pre-conceived notions. Common sense and Spirit-led intuition are more important factors
These significant accomplishments were all to expand his knowledge and deepen his faith as a born-again Evangelical Christian.
It’s incredible how the evil b-stards NEVER stop hating, persecuting, and ridiculing Christians that speak out about their beliefs; but pretend to be “objective” or “logical”!! LMAO! How can anyone be so full of hate, and yet so clueless? No, it’s not funny. I truly pity you wretched human beings. It must be miserable to be you
I'm not impressed. The Ehrman guy is a skilled debater, but he denies obvious fundamentals of the Scriptures.
He graduated from Moody Bible Institute with a degree in Bible Theology. He learned to read the ancient languages that the Bible manuscripts were written in, including Biblical Greek, and he’s read and studied the oldest copies that we have. Extensively. He got his B.A. from Wheaton, and his M.Div. and Ph.D from Princeton Theological Seminary; his baccalaureate and doctorate were conferred magna cum laude. These significant accomplishments were all to expand his knowledge and deepen his faith as a born-again Evangelical Christian. He taught at Rutgers, and now he teaches for the Department of Religious Studies at UNC Chapel Hill. I see his biography as being very impressive.
Originally Posted by Happy_Camper
Actually I believe the Epistles and books of the Bible are the credible documents from God to mankind.
It’s likely that the overwhelming majority of people who profess to be Christians believe that very thing as well. I don’t think most people…believers or not…have much of a problem with people choosing to believe that.
I listened to a debate and came away with the idea that he did not believe in the deity of Christ. What do you think about that?
It’s incredible how the evil b-stards NEVER stop hating, persecuting, and ridiculing Christians that speak out about their beliefs; but pretend to be “objective” or “logical”!! LMAO! How can anyone be so full of hate, and yet so clueless? No, it’s not funny. I truly pity you wretched human beings. It must be miserable to be you
I listened to a debate and came away with the idea that he did not believe in the deity of Christ. What do you think about that?
He did later become an agnostic after struggling with the philosophical problems of pain and evil and suffering in the world.
It’s not uncommon for people to struggle with that, nor is it uncommon for some Christians to experience a deconversion because of their inability to resolve a good and loving God with the pain and evil and suffering in the world; they end up walking away from the faith.
Nowadays he says that he continues to be attracted to the teachings of Jesus. He says Jesus' teachings of love and mercy and forgiveness really should dominate our lives, and that it really is better to love your neighbor as yourself. On the personal level, he says he agrees with many of the ethical teachings of Jesus, and he tries to model his life on them, even though he’s agnostic now due to his deconversion.
But was ok with having an Easter egg hunt on church property. I called him out on that one. lol He was sputtering like Sylvestor the cat.
Pastors should know better. Christians commonly celebrate the resurrection of Jesus Christ often throughout the year. Many set aside Easter on the calendar for recognizing the same resurrection following the sacrifice. To accommodate the pagan influence of fertility worship or practices is wrong. Hide and seek of children and prizes any other time of year just for fun and not as a pagan practice is one thing. But I don't think the Lord is pleased with us teaching children fertility games like the heathens.
Deuteronomy 11:28 "And a curse, if ye will not obey the commandments of the LORD your God, but turn aside out of the way which I command you this day, to go after other gods, which ye have not known."
18:9,10 "When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations. There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch...",
Do you even know the origin and the true meaning of Samhaim, commonly known as All Saints Day, All Hallows Day, and the Feast of All Saints. Do you know what happens on that day? Obviously you don't, but as usual, the Church Religious propaganda pushers spew their ignorance in some kind of proclomation and call it Christian truth. But oh boy, when Christmas gets here they are all about Winter Solstice with some of them knowing it was not the birth of Christ. Sad, so so sad.
You are wrong about the origin. The origin of Samhain is Gaelic festival for the harvest and has to do with pagan Celtic festivals. In the 9th century the Irish who observed. The Church had shifted the date of All Saints' Day to 1 November, while 2 November later became All Souls' Day. Over time, it is believed that Samhain and All Saints'/All Souls' influenced each other, and eventually syncretised into the modern Halloween.Folklorists have used the name 'Samhain' to refer to Gaelic 'Halloween' customs up until the 19th century. Since the later 20th century, Celtic neopagans and Wiccans have observed Samhain, or something based on it, as a religious holiday. This is similar to Christmas which Constantine inserted into a pagan festival also. It is apparent that if the shepard's were watching their flocks by night as the story informs us of, that they would not be in the open fields during the coldest time of the year. They would be tending the flock in an enclosure at home.
Well, you got it about half right, but a half of truth is a lie. What you described is nothing more than Wikipedia and church doctine.
It’s incredible how the evil b-stards NEVER stop hating, persecuting, and ridiculing Christians that speak out about their beliefs; but pretend to be “objective” or “logical”!! LMAO! How can anyone be so full of hate, and yet so clueless? No, it’s not funny. I truly pity you wretched human beings. It must be miserable to be you
The irony of the most hate-filled post on this thread is obviously lost on you.
I listened to a debate and came away with the idea that he did not believe in the deity of Christ. What do you think about that?
He did later become an agnostic after struggling with the philosophical problems of pain and evil and suffering in the world.
It’s not uncommon for people to struggle with that, nor is it uncommon for some Christians to experience a deconversion because of their inability to resolve a good and loving God with the pain and evil and suffering in the world; they end up walking away from the faith.
Nowadays he says that he continues to be attracted to the teachings of Jesus. He says Jesus' teachings of love and mercy and forgiveness really should dominate our lives, and that it really is better to love your neighbor as yourself. On the personal level, he says he agrees with many of the ethical teachings of Jesus, and he tries to model his life on them, even though he’s agnostic now due to his deconversion.
The failing of the church is selling conversions as a shield of God against worldly suffering, earthly rewards for faith.
Man had it wrong so Jesus came to set the correct example, he didn't come cause man was doing it right... and then man almost immediately started down the path of doing it wrong again.
Jesus came to show how unimportant worldly suffering, hardship, persecution, torture, physical death are, compared to faith and spiritual resurrection. What God can give us here is the will to endure and the strength of fearlessness, spiritual peace/relief regardless of pain/suffering/persecution.
Jesus' church is lead through the Holy Spirit, not a pulpit, not some man's words, not a confined in a book.
God left man here on earth with free will, individual man and man as a whole, the chit that happens to us here isn't on God nor will he save you, it's on man and self inflicted.
And the mocking and ridicule of Christians goes on…and on..
Be interesting to see which side they come down on when it comes down to the nut cutting. My bet is they will come down against Trump, Washington, Jefferson and Christianity and side with Zero, Biden, Piglosi, Allah and Muhammad Ali.
Hmmmm….That Jefferson fellow liked to diddle his slaves….and spend more than he made.
What is your stand on owning slaves, extracurricular diddling of same and overspending?
I got one of them big ole 20 buck bags of snickers, milky ways, and kit kats. 200 candy bars👍👍👍👍👍 Might get 10 to 12 kids sunday night for Halloween. No one really sees our subdivision from the bypass. 50 some odd homes.
Older demographics than what it was back in 2001.
Anyways. Give out 6, 7, 8 candy bars to each kid. Big ole handful. Let em grab some more.
I'm not stingy or on a Special kitty dinner plan....
Rest will go in the day pack for Nov deer hunting chubby treats.
Kinda miss my 3 daughters growing up when they would go thru their bags and put aside the candy they didnt like.
Give it to dad. Dad will eat anything. Except for smarties. I hate smarties..
Low budget mofo,s give out smarties.
Smarties suck....
Mutha fugga shoulda stayed in England and not polluted our Halloween in the USA with his low budget garbage candy that mostly winds up being dumped outta kids bags and trick or treat pumpkin buckets into the trash a couple of weeks later...
The untold truth is smarties suck....... And cheap azz fuggs give em out on Halloween for the most part.
If I was a kid out on Debil worshippers night. The last candy I would want to take to Hades with me would be smarties... Even the Debil hates smartie I bet....
Christians get more than a little tired of the preacher making everyday Sunday, and being told the are going to hell because they may question parts of the serman...
There are more than a few who are saved, know they are sinners and don't need it shoved into their face on a daily basis by the HC's of the world who think they have all the answers..
HC started slow and with time and posts, eventually reached the point he had to make the majority of his posts related to his "ministry". He even added a few shooting posts, thinking it would make him more readily accepted....All so obvious.....
My grandma, bless her heart, wasn't cheap but never really understood trick or treating. She would always give us a banana and a returnable bottle of RC cola. 😁
If I was a kid out on Debil worshippers night. The last candy I would want to take to Hades with me would be smarties... Even the Debil hates smartie I bet....
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Cannot stand those smarties things.
JMHO, but If you don't want to spend a couple extra bucks on Butterfingers, Snickers, Hershey's Kisses, Milky Ways, Reese's Butter Cups, Nestle's Crunch Bars or the like, just turn the lights out and hide.
My grandma, bless her heart, wasn't cheap but never really understood trick or treating. She would always give us a banana and a returnable bottle of RC cola. 😁
The real cheap azz fuggs growing up in Maine. Where the fuggs giving out apples from trees in the yards. All picked with your caring hands and schitt....
Ok dickheads we got ya...👍👍👍💩💩💩
Thanks... Kerplunk..... apple in your bag...
Walk away...
Knead the fugg outta those things. Get em all squishy soft.
Incoming azzholes!!!!! House getting apple bombed...
My grandma, bless her heart, wasn't cheap but never really understood trick or treating. She would always give us a banana and a returnable bottle of RC cola. 😁
The real cheap azz fuggs growing up in Maine. Where the fuggs giving out apples from trees in the yards. All picked with your caring hands and schitt....
Ok dickheads we got ya...👍👍👍💩💩💩
Thanks... Kerplunk..... apple in your bag...
Walk away...
Knead the fugg outta those things. Get em all squishy soft.
Incoming azzholes!!!!! House getting apple bombed...
Cheap fuggs....
The cheap ones here would go to the market or the Ben Franklin dime store, and get a bag of that old time Brachs hard candy that used to be sold loose. Probably 50 cents a pound or something, dip the scoop in the bin and fill your bag.
Then they would give you a single piece of it.
"Here you go kid, one butterscotch disc"
We always tossed that schidt, along with the smarties.
I listened to a debate and came away with the idea that he did not believe in the deity of Christ. What do you think about that?
I am glad you brought this up. How is it that we believe in one God and believe Jesus was God? Who the heck was he praying to? Do you believe it is necessary to believe in the virgin birth? Can salvation be obtained if one discards the writings of Paul and concentrates on the teachings of the old testament and John and Jesus? Examine your beliefs and let me know your thoughts. I am not going to get into private communication with you.
My grandma, bless her heart, wasn't cheap but never really understood trick or treating. She would always give us a banana and a returnable bottle of RC cola. 😁
The real cheap azz fuggs growing up in Maine. Where the fuggs giving out apples from trees in the yards. All picked with your caring hands and schitt....
Ok dickheads we got ya...👍👍👍💩💩💩
Thanks... Kerplunk..... apple in your bag...
Walk away...
Knead the fugg outta those things. Get em all squishy soft.
Incoming azzholes!!!!! House getting apple bombed...
Cheap fuggs....
The cheap ones here would go to the market or the Ben Franklin dime store, and get a bag of that old time Brachs hard candy that used to be sold loose. Probably 50 cents a pound or something, dip the scoop in the bin and fill your bag.
Then they would give you a single piece of it.
"Here you go kid, one butterscotch disc"
We always tossed that schidt, along with the smarties.
Cheap azz fuggs....
Always looking to screw over a kid on Debils night...
The failing of the church is selling conversions as a shield of God against worldly suffering, earthly rewards for faith.
Man had it wrong so Jesus came to set the correct example, he didn't come cause man was doing it right... and then man almost immediately started down the path of doing it wrong again.
Jesus came to show how unimportant worldly suffering, hardship, persecution, torture, physical death are, compared to faith and spiritual resurrection. What God can give us here is the will to endure and the strength of fearlessness, spiritual peace/relief regardless of pain/suffering/persecution.
Jesus' church is lead through the Holy Spirit, not a pulpit, not some man's words, not confined in a book.
God left man here on earth with free will, individual man and man as a whole, the chit that happens to us here isn't on God nor will he save you, it's on man and self inflicted.
I’m always glad when you participate in these discussions. Your insight and knowledge and contributions are refreshing.
The issue of pain and suffering and injustice in the world is a big problem…for many people, and understandably so…when it comes to maintaining faith in God. Many people have stepped back from God because of their inability to reconcile the pain and suffering and injustice in the world with a good and loving God. There's a lot of tension between God and pain, God and injustice, God and sorrow, and God and devastation in the world...and how we resolve those issues with a good and loving God. Interestingly enough, it's primarily a big deal with the people in the Western world and people in first world countries... Americans, Canadians, and Europeans. In other parts of the world, in the midst of extraordinary poverty and anguish, you'll also find extraordinary faith...'not' extraordinary doubt.
The 'logic' says if God is good, He would get rid of all pain, suffering, and injustice. If God could, He would get rid of all pain, suffering, and injustice. So either He lacks 'good', or He lacks 'could'...there is either a problem with His willingness or His ability...or...there is no God at all. That's what some people's logic tells them.
Is it right to use *other* people's pain and suffering and injustice to draw *our own* conclusions about God...? Is it right to use other people's pain and suffering and injustice to build *our own* case against God...?
To me, that’s casting a pretty wide net. If we have not walked in their shoes, then we don't know. We'd have to talk with each one of them, individually, about their pain and their suffering and their injustice to know how it affects their conclusion about God. For many, it might draw them closer to God, rather than push them away. If we use our own pain and suffering and injustice to draw our own conclusions about God...that's wholly different.
I never understood why a candy that was supposed to be chewy, was always as hard as a rock.
My theory is that they made a million pounds of Tootsie Rolls for the GIs in World War II, and after the war they kept selling the leftovers for the next 40 years.
The failing of the church is selling conversions as a shield of God against worldly suffering, earthly rewards for faith.
Man had it wrong so Jesus came to set the correct example, he didn't come cause man was doing it right... and then man almost immediately started down the path of doing it wrong again.
Jesus came to show how unimportant worldly suffering, hardship, persecution, torture, physical death are, compared to faith and spiritual resurrection. What God can give us here is the will to endure and the strength of fearlessness, spiritual peace/relief regardless of pain/suffering/persecution.
Jesus' church is lead through the Holy Spirit, not a pulpit, not some man's words, not confined in a book.
God left man here on earth with free will, individual man and man as a whole, the chit that happens to us here isn't on God nor will he save you, it's on man and self inflicted.
I’m always glad when you participate in these discussions. Your insight and knowledge and contributions are refreshing.
The failing of the church is selling conversions as a shield of God against worldly suffering, earthly rewards for faith.
Man had it wrong so Jesus came to set the correct example, he didn't come cause man was doing it right... and then man almost immediately started down the path of doing it wrong again.
Jesus came to show how unimportant worldly suffering, hardship, persecution, torture, physical death are, compared to faith and spiritual resurrection. What God can give us here is the will to endure and the strength of fearlessness, spiritual peace/relief regardless of pain/suffering/persecution.
Jesus' church is lead through the Holy Spirit, not a pulpit, not some man's words, not confined in a book.
God left man here on earth with free will, individual man and man as a whole, the chit that happens to us here isn't on God nor will he save you, it's on man and self inflicted.
I’m always glad when you participate in these discussions. Your insight and knowledge and contributions are refreshing.
The issue of pain and suffering and injustice in the world is a big problem…for many people, and understandably so…when it comes to maintaining faith in God. Many people have stepped back from God because of their inability to reconcile the pain and suffering and injustice in the world with a good and loving God. There's a lot of tension between God and pain, God and injustice, God and sorrow, and God and devastation in the world...and how we resolve those issues with a good and loving God. Interestingly enough, it's primarily a big deal with the people in the Western world and people in first world countries... Americans, Canadians, and Europeans. In other parts of the world, in the midst of extraordinary poverty and anguish, you'll also find extraordinary faith...'not' extraordinary doubt.
The 'logic' says if God is good, He would get rid of all pain, suffering, and injustice. If God could, He would get rid of all pain, suffering, and injustice. So either He lacks 'good', or He lacks 'could'...there is either a problem with His willingness or His ability...or...there is no God at all. That's what some people's logic tells them.
Is it right to use *other* people's pain and suffering and injustice to draw *our own* conclusions about God...? Is it right to use other people's pain and suffering and injustice to build *our own* case against God...?
To me, that’s casting a pretty wide net. If we have not walked in their shoes, then we don't know. We'd have to talk with each one of them, individually, about their pain and their suffering and their injustice to know how it affects their conclusion about God. For many, it might draw them closer to God, rather than push them away. If we use our own pain and suffering and injustice to draw our own conclusions about God...that's wholly different.
I never understood why a candy that was supposed to be chewy, was always as hard as a rock.
My theory is that they made a million pounds of Tootsie Rolls for the GIs in World War II, and after the war they kept selling the leftovers for the next 40 years.
I never understood why a candy that was supposed to be chewy, was always as hard as a rock.
My theory is that they made a million pounds of Tootsie Rolls for the GIs in World War II, and after the war they kept selling the leftovers for the next 40 years.
Throw in the other flavored tootsie rolls.
They really sucked....
Always felt kinda fuqked over with tootsie rolls in the bag at the end of Debils night.... 😡😡😡 😄😄😄
Yup, and they should hang effigies of witches from the trees in their yards with Let’s Go Brandon signs around their necks, thereby offending both Wokesters and Demoncrats simultaneously.
Except for Satanists and other crackpots, Halloween is just an excuse to dress up and eat too much sugar.
Leave them kids alone!
I stand to differ with you comment sir. I is like saying Christmas isn't sacred to Christians and Salah is not sacred to Muslims. Think about it. They culture behind it is very attractive a we humans can't say no to cheap and delicious sweets... so the formats for the celebrations ropes us all in. I don't think Christians should celebrate Halloween.
Well…regarding Halloween…on one hand, it can mean simply letting your kiddos dress up in costume and go trick or treating to get a buncha candy. Period. Nothin’ more than fun for the kids. On the other hand, it can mean cuttin’ the head off a chicken and sprinklin’ the blood into a circle and getting in the center of it and worshippin’ the devil while you drink blood out of a goat’s skull.
Yup, and they should hang effigies of witches from the trees in their yards with Let’s Go Brandon signs around their necks, thereby offending both Wokesters and Demoncrats simultaneously.
Except for Satanists and other crackpots, Halloween is just an excuse to dress up and eat too much sugar.
Leave them kids alone!
I stand to differ with you comment sir. I is like saying Christmas isn't sacred to Christians and Salah is not sacred to Muslims. Think about it. They culture behind it is very attractive a we humans can't say no to cheap and delicious sweets... so the formats for the celebrations ropes us all in. I don't think Christians should celebrate Halloween.
Just because I drink a shot of Jamison on St. Patrick's Day, that doesn't mean I'm going to start setting car bombs and killing the British.
I listened to a debate and came away with the idea that he did not believe in the deity of Christ. What do you think about that?
I am glad you brought this up. How is it that we believe in one God and believe Jesus was God?
By faith we trust His revelation to mankind through His written Word. In the beginning, He described Himself and said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness." Later the Father said, "But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom."
There are numerous references in the old and many more in the new covenant/ testament that refer to the Godhood/Godhead in the plural while telling us that He is one God. I have plenty of details on this, but little time now to explain. One example that Jesus IS God is His demonstration of many more miracles than any person He healed through the prophets. He did creation miracles just as He did in the beginning of time. No team of scientists today has ever done what Jesus did as many thousands of witnesses saw. Jesus proved that He is fully God and man.
Who the heck was he praying to?
He addressed the Father in His prayers. He taught us how to properly pray. He humbled Himself and took upon the form of sinless man. Who was Jesus before He came to the earth? ....an angel? No, He was the Almighty Creator.....Deity/ God. When He became a man, in the unique virgin conception, Jesus suffered weakness, and what was common to any man without means. Now He was an acceptable Sacrifice, the only One qualified to pay for sins. We cannot pay for our own sins through martyrdom or any other good works. We remain under the penalty of death, the second death until we give up and realize our need. Then we look to Jesus alone, the Savior, for salvation from that eternal punishment. The Father forgives us and imparts the free gift of everlasting life. From that point on, it is not a probationary period based upon behavior. Rather, we are in the family of God forever. He treats us with love and we will never experience that second death in hell. When we mess up and sin, He corrects us here and now, but receives us in spite of that.
Do you believe it is necessary to believe in the virgin birth?
One reason that God told us of this major prophesy is that it IS essential that we understand who Jesus really is. If you think that he is the offspring of the carpenter Joseph, then you believe in a different Jesus. That Jesus is not the only begotten Son of God as He revealed Himself in no uncertain terms in John chapter 3. If He were just a man, then He would have sinned and been disqualified from the substitution suffering and death for the sinful world. If he were but a man, Jesus would not be the mediator between God the Father and mankind. As God the Father of His only begotten Son, Jesus is the only One to meet these requirements. When He was tortured for all of our sins and hung between heaven and earth, He was the only go between to reconcile humanity to the Father. This same Jesus must be believed upon as revealed by the Holy Scriptures that the Holy Spirit inspired and preserved for us to read. The third chapter of John will be linked below for your convenience and study.
Can salvation be obtained if one discards the writings of Paul and concentrates on the teachings of the old testament and John and Jesus?
Jesus explained to the O.T. scholar in John 3 who spent his life studying nothing more than the O.T. Jesus gave Nicodemus everything he needed to have the free gift of salvation....3:14-18.
Examine your beliefs and let me know your thoughts. OK, so there you go. God is very kind to offer forgiveness and everlasting life. The choice is up to you and each individual if you want that free gift. It's very simple. . I am not going to get into private communication with you.
That goes for both of us, because I'm working through breaks and don't have time to take calls today. Otherwise, I have an open door policy for whoever wants that option.
I used to pass out Smart pills on Halloween.Kid would take a taste and say gee mister"That taste like Chit".I would tell them ,see you are getting smart already.
HC: I am glad yo replied but could you send it again with the text in white? I cant read that green text.
Did you read the new darker font?
Yes sir I read it. How about check out Mark 10:18. The only interpretation of that has to be Jesus saying he is not God. When he makes some other statements I feel sure he is saying to people that when you hear what he says you are hearing God. Like the U.S. Secretary of State might say "I speak for the president".
You know Jesus' message was nothing new. He was pointing out how far the religious leaders of the day had gone way wrong. They and their Roman allies killed him for it.
HC: I am glad yo replied but could you send it again with the text in white? I cant read that green text.
Did you read the new darker font?
Yes sir I read it. How about check out Mark 10:18. The only interpretation of that has to be Jesus saying he is not God. When he makes some other statements I feel sure he is saying to people that when you hear what he says you are hearing God. Like the U.S. Secretary of State might say "I speak for the president".
You know Jesus' message was nothing new. He was pointing out how far the religious leaders of the day had gone way wrong. They and their Roman allies killed him for it.
I listened to a debate and came away with the idea that he did not believe in the deity of Christ. What do you think about that?
I am glad you brought this up. How is it that we believe in one God and believe Jesus was God? Who the heck was he praying to? Do you believe it is necessary to believe in the virgin birth? Can salvation be obtained if one discards the writings of Paul and concentrates on the teachings of the old testament and John and Jesus? Examine your beliefs and let me know your thoughts. I am not going to get into private communication with you.
Game?
I answered your questions thoroughly. After that you will not even respond to any of it, except for one reference ?
I listened to a debate and came away with the idea that he did not believe in the deity of Christ. What do you think about that?
I am glad you brought this up. How is it that we believe in one God and believe Jesus was God? Who the heck was he praying to? Do you believe it is necessary to believe in the virgin birth? Can salvation be obtained if one discards the writings of Paul and concentrates on the teachings of the old testament and John and Jesus? Examine your beliefs and let me know your thoughts. I am not going to get into private communication with you.
Game?
I answered your questions thoroughly. After that you will not even respond to any of it, except for one reference ?
Can you see the irony of demanding that people answer your queries while you typically don’t give direct answers? Referring people to videos and feigning martyrdom when you are asked direct specific questions isn’t helpful to anyone.
You leave people with the idea that you are either not able to articulate your own thoughts, deceptive because you won’t engage in deeper discussions unless you control the conversation or that you are simply a sock puppet.
Can you see the irony of demanding that people answer your queries while you typically don’t give direct answers? Referring people to videos and feigning martyrdom when you are asked direct specific questions isn’t helpful to anyone.
You leave people with the idea that you are either not able to articulate your own thoughts, deceptive because you won’t engage in deeper discussions unless you control the conversation or that you are simply a sock puppet.
He was a young man at the time. But this settles it. Perhaps now HC and OH will be satisfied that we provided proof. Seeing how they think the burden of proof is on everyone but themselves.
Here you go.....Proof that Renegade is a Christian.
Matthew 7:2 New International Version For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
The failing of the church is selling conversions as a shield of God against worldly suffering, earthly rewards for faith.
Man had it wrong so Jesus came to set the correct example, he didn't come cause man was doing it right... and then man almost immediately started down the path of doing it wrong again.
Jesus came to show how unimportant worldly suffering, hardship, persecution, torture, physical death are, compared to faith and spiritual resurrection. What God can give us here is the will to endure and the strength of fearlessness, spiritual peace/relief regardless of pain/suffering/persecution.
Jesus' church is lead through the Holy Spirit, not a pulpit, not some man's words, not confined in a book.
God left man here on earth with free will, individual man and man as a whole, the chit that happens to us here isn't on God nor will he save you, it's on man and self inflicted.
I’m always glad when you participate in these discussions. Your insight and knowledge and contributions are refreshing.
+1, to both of you.
+2, antlers and krp are both solid guys who can share their faith reasonably without the accusatory hate filled rhetoric HC and his ilk resort to.
The failing of the church is selling conversions as a shield of God against worldly suffering, earthly rewards for faith.
Man had it wrong so Jesus came to set the correct example, he didn't come cause man was doing it right... and then man almost immediately started down the path of doing it wrong again.
Jesus came to show how unimportant worldly suffering, hardship, persecution, torture, physical death are, compared to faith and spiritual resurrection. What God can give us here is the will to endure and the strength of fearlessness, spiritual peace/relief regardless of pain/suffering/persecution.
Jesus' church is lead through the Holy Spirit, not a pulpit, not some man's words, not confined in a book.
God left man here on earth with free will, individual man and man as a whole, the chit that happens to us here isn't on God nor will he save you, it's on man and self inflicted.
I’m always glad when you participate in these discussions. Your insight and knowledge and contributions are refreshing.
+1, to both of you.
+2, antlers and krp are both solid guys who can share their faith reasonably without the accusatory hate filled rhetoric HC and his ilk resort to.
Faith? Faith in what?
Gal 1:8 "But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed."
Can you see the irony of demanding that people answer your queries while you typically don’t give direct answers? Referring people to videos and feigning martyrdom when you are asked direct specific questions isn’t helpful to anyone.
You leave people with the idea that you are either not able to articulate your own thoughts, deceptive because you won’t engage in deeper discussions unless you control the conversation or that you are simply a sock puppet.
I'm a Druid so I plan on celebrating while dancing around a raging fire and burning animal flesh. Might have a wee bit of Scotch too - my interpretation of a nice mug of Chouchen. Singing and chanting comes later...
Who would act as purposely derisive, link some of the most unsavory or outright ignorant examples of alleged ministry available?
He's a wolf in sheep dog clothing, his agenda is obvious.
Kent
Are you a Christian?
You've read enough of my commentary... you have an agenda asking me that question, just go ahead and tell me why I'm not.
Kent
You are confused. You are the one telling people they are not a Christian. Do you claim to be a Christian?
You have some set of beliefs. Everyone does. These beliefs are based on something. I would like to know how you have come to your conclusions.
Why do I ask? Because I find the vast majority of people just throw stones and are incapable of formulating or justifying their own set of beliefs.
That's rich. This thread started with Crappy Hamper throwing stones at people who let their kids dress up and go trick or treating. Between Crappy, you, and Ruger4Life a mountain of stones have been cast. Consider each stone a bit of your credibility. How many minds do you imagine you have changed?
The failing of the church is selling conversions as a shield of God against worldly suffering, earthly rewards for faith.
Man had it wrong so Jesus came to set the correct example, he didn't come cause man was doing it right... and then man almost immediately started down the path of doing it wrong again.
Jesus came to show how unimportant worldly suffering, hardship, persecution, torture, physical death are, compared to faith and spiritual resurrection. What God can give us here is the will to endure and the strength of fearlessness, spiritual peace/relief regardless of pain/suffering/persecution.
Jesus' church is lead through the Holy Spirit, not a pulpit, not some man's words, not confined in a book.
God left man here on earth with free will, individual man and man as a whole, the chit that happens to us here isn't on God nor will he save you, it's on man and self inflicted.
I’m always glad when you participate in these discussions. Your insight and knowledge and contributions are refreshing.
+1, to both of you.
+2, antlers and krp are both solid guys who can share their faith reasonably without the accusatory hate filled rhetoric HC and his ilk resort to.
Faith? Faith in what?
Gal 1:8 "But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed."
Who authored galatians? Paul or a third party? and who gave them authority over gospel?... themselves?
Obviously they feel they speak for Christ and as Christ... yet don't sound a bit like Christ.
I would never assume such authority, though there are many who assume they can.
I'm a Druid so I plan on celebrating while dancing around a raging fire and burning animal flesh. Might have a wee bit of Scotch too - my interpretation of a nice mug of Chouchen. Singing and chanting comes later...
Please,
pics will not be necessary if it happens, especially if you're dancing around that fire nekkid.
send me the Smarties. And the original flavor Tootsie Rolls. Those supposedly fruity ones should just be banned from the earth.
And, you will pay in Purgatory for the apple bombings. I figure that will be good for at least 2 weeks sitting in the sauna above HE double hockey sticks.
Jesus' church is lead through the Holy Spirit, not a pulpit, not some man's words, not a confined in a book.
God uses Spirit filled people to shepherd His flock. It has been that way since the beginning. Many of those people are in the pulpit.
Can I assume you’re saying “you are spirit filled, and thusly a shepherd of men” ?
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I wrote what I meant. The two sentences could not be more clear.
I simply stated what is clear in the Bible.
Nothing is clear in the Bible.That is why no two denominations can agree on anything written in the Bible.Then there are those few chosen that know exactly what is in the Bible.There is a name for them." Delusional"
I certainly don’t think there’s been a surge of atheism in this country, but there certainly has been a migration away from Christianity over the last 20 years or so. These folks are simply unaffiliated; they’ve simply disconnected from any religious affiliation, Christianity in particular. They don’t embrace any beliefs in particular, they’re not atheists or agnostics, and they don’t identify as Christian’s. They can’t really describe what they are, they just know what they’re not. And I don’t blame em’.
Maybe close to 25% of the total population, 35% of millennials, mostly males and mostly well educated, theologically apathetic…don’t know and don’t care, and don’t feel like they even need to know. They’re not hostile toward religion, they’re just not affiliated with it. And again, I don’t blame em’.
To me, the migration away from Christianity in this country is the church’s fault. The responsibility lies at the feet of the church. To me, the reason that so many people have disengaged from Christianity is not because of the message; it’s mostly because of the messengers. It’s not the fault of the unaffiliated that they've found Christianity so unappealing and unengaging and so irrational and so unscientific, and so ungracious; it’s the fault of the church.
When you open the Gospels, when you look at the way that Jesus interacted with people…and He’s the person whose at the very epicenter of everything Christians claim to believe and everything they do…you’ll see that people who were nothing like Jesus, liked Jesus. And you’ll see that He liked them back.
So maybe, if the version of Christianity that we’re seeing today isn’t attractive or compelling, maybe the church has the wrong version. There sure are a lotta deconversion stories out there. And I’ve never heard a deconversion story that had anything to do with who Jesus is. Many people have walked away from Christianity. And I think “why” is an important question that the church should be asking itself. It’s not appealing to so many people. And to me, in many cases, it’s not even accurate.
I'm a Druid so I plan on celebrating while dancing around a raging fire and burning animal flesh. Might have a wee bit of Scotch too - my interpretation of a nice mug of Chouchen. Singing and chanting comes later...
Please,
pics will not be necessary if it happens, especially if you're dancing around that fire nekkid.
Not to worry. I learned long ago that raging fires and dancing nekkid should not be attempted simultaneously. Best to do the nekkid dancing after the chanting and singing... and a few more Scotches.
I'm a Druid so I plan on celebrating while dancing around a raging fire and burning animal flesh. Might have a wee bit of Scotch too - my interpretation of a nice mug of Chouchen. Singing and chanting comes later...
Please,
pics will not be necessary if it happens, especially if you're dancing around that fire nekkid.
Not to worry. I learned long ago that raging fires and dancing nekkid should not be attempted simultaneously. Best to do the nekkid dancing after the chanting and singing... and a few more Scotches.
I origanally read that ...and a few more scorches...
The failing of the church is selling conversions as a shield of God against worldly suffering, earthly rewards for faith.
Man had it wrong so Jesus came to set the correct example, he didn't come cause man was doing it right... and then man almost immediately started down the path of doing it wrong again.
Jesus came to show how unimportant worldly suffering, hardship, persecution, torture, physical death are, compared to faith and spiritual resurrection. What God can give us here is the will to endure and the strength of fearlessness, spiritual peace/relief regardless of pain/suffering/persecution.
Jesus' church is lead through the Holy Spirit, not a pulpit, not some man's words, not confined in a book.
God left man here on earth with free will, individual man and man as a whole, the chit that happens to us here isn't on God nor will he save you, it's on man and self inflicted.
I’m always glad when you participate in these discussions. Your insight and knowledge and contributions are refreshing.
+1, to both of you.
+2, antlers and krp are both solid guys who can share their faith reasonably without the accusatory hate filled rhetoric HC and his ilk resort to.
Faith? Faith in what?
Gal 1:8 "But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed."
Who authored galatians? Paul or a third party? and who gave them authority over gospel?... themselves?
Obviously they feel they speak for Christ and as Christ... yet don't sound a bit like Christ.
I would never assume such authority, though there are many who assume they can.
Kent
There have always been dissenters who try to diminish and dismiss biblical authority and the Word of God.
Jesus called, appointed, equipped, and commissioned his apostles to teach, speak, and write in His name.
“Very truly I tell you, whoever accepts anyone I send accepts me; and whoever accepts me accepts the one who sent me.” John 13:20
“Whoever listens to you listens to me; whoever rejects you rejects me; but whoever rejects me rejects Him who sent me.” Luke 10:16
Those who reject the apostles reject Jesus.
“Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name for the Gentiles, and Kings, and the children of Israel.” Acts 9:15
Jesus sent his Holy Spirit to the apostles to tell us through his Word of all Jesus said and taught. God’s Word is not just “a book”. Reading the gospels and the epistles of Jesus is hearing Jesus.
Accepting this is accepting Jesus. Denying this is denying Jesus and the Holy Spirit who inspired the apostles to preach, teach, and write in Jesus’ name, the same Holy Spirit who leads Jesus’ church. Jesus authorized his apostles to speak and write in HIs name with the assistance of the Holy Spirit.
“Therefore, anyone who rejects the instruction of ours does not reject a human being but God, the very God who gives us his Holy Spirit.” 1 Thess 4:8
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word is God.” John 1:1
Every written word in the Bible is from God, and the entire Bible is Jesus.
It doesn’t matter if some scripture doesn’t fit our preconceived theology. We don’t have the luxury of picking and choosing what we want to believe in God’s Holy Word.
Faith? Faith in what? Gal 1:8 "But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed."
Doesn't Paul sound like a nut case in your quote? He's saying no matter who contradicts him, "let him be accursed". No wonder Jesus in Revelation 2:2 praised the Ephesians for getting rid of Paul. Read Paul thoroughly and compare his doctrine to Jesus. You will see.
I'm a Druid so I plan on celebrating while dancing around a raging fire and burning animal flesh. Might have a wee bit of Scotch too - my interpretation of a nice mug of Chouchen. Singing and chanting comes later...
Please,
pics will not be necessary if it happens, especially if you're dancing around that fire nekkid.
Not to worry. I learned long ago that raging fires and dancing nekkid should not be attempted simultaneously. Best to do the nekkid dancing after the chanting and singing... and a few more Scotches.
The Horizontal Bop with a sweetie is always my preferred nekkid dance step.
Around the fire, in the bushes, on the couch, wherever we ended up.
I'm a Druid so I plan on celebrating while dancing around a raging fire and burning animal flesh. Might have a wee bit of Scotch too - my interpretation of a nice mug of Chouchen. Singing and chanting comes later...
Please,
pics will not be necessary if it happens, especially if you're dancing around that fire nekkid.
Not to worry. I learned long ago that raging fires and dancing nekkid should not be attempted simultaneously. Best to do the nekkid dancing after the chanting and singing... and a few more Scotches.
I origanally read that ...and a few more scorches...
To me, the reason that so many people have disengaged from Christianity is not because of the message; it’s mostly because of the messengers. It’s not the fault of the unaffiliated that they've found Christianity so unappealing and unengaging and so irrational and so unscientific, and so ungracious; it’s the fault of the church.
Matthew 7:2 New International Version For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
I'm a Druid so I plan on celebrating while dancing around a raging fire and burning animal flesh. Might have a wee bit of Scotch too - my interpretation of a nice mug of Chouchen. Singing and chanting comes later...
I'm a Druid so I plan on celebrating while dancing around a raging fire and burning animal flesh. Might have a wee bit of Scotch too - my interpretation of a nice mug of Chouchen. Singing and chanting comes later...
Please,
pics will not be necessary if it happens, especially if you're dancing around that fire nekkid.
Not to worry. I learned long ago that raging fires and dancing nekkid should not be attempted simultaneously. Best to do the nekkid dancing after the chanting and singing... and a few more Scotches.
STRSWilson's last fire circle dance...............
Matthew 7:2 New International Version For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
A couple of members here have consigned me to hell for my beliefs or lack thereof. They are pretty shrill about it. Does this mean I will have them for company?
Is the trunk or treating at the church house ok or not?
#askingforafriend
As long as they aint giving out Micheal Jackson Jesus Juice to the kids. It's probably alright.
But if some tight wad bible thumper is handing out smarties, fruit flavored tootsie rolls, or some schit fruit grown on a tree in his backyard. Then things are gonna get real. Kids gonna revolt and Fugg some people up...
Some asshat like Crappy Hamper will probably be on a soap box in the middle of the parking lot shaming the kids and handing out brochures with Bible verses.
Is the trunk or treating at the church house ok or not?
#askingforafriend
As long as they aint giving out Micheal Jackson Jesus Juice to the kids. It's probably alright.
But if some tight wad bible thumper is handing out smarties, fruit flavored tootsie rolls, or some schit fruit grown on a tree in his backyard. Then things are gonna get real. Kids gonna revolt and Fugg some people up...
Is the trunk or treating at the church house ok or not?
#askingforafriend
most gracious As long as they aint giving out Micheal Jackson Jesus Juice to the kids. It's probably alright.
But if some tight wad bible thumper is handing out smarties, fruit flavored tootsie rolls, or some schit fruit grown on a tree in his backyard. Then things are gonna get real. Kids gonna revolt and Fugg some people up...
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Local Dr. and his family would dress up in something funky and hand out movie theater size candy bars. That was forty some years ago. Used to do yard work for them. Most gracious people in the neighborhood. Immigrants from India who were grateful to be Americans. Little did they know they were offending God.
Some asshat like Crappy Hamper will probably be on a soap box in the middle of the parking lot shaming the kids and handing out brochures with Bible verses.
While secretly being fondled by Bugger4Life. OldTwat will be in the background somewhere too.
I see it differently. Some people deify the Bible, some people worship the Bible. I don’t.
Originally Posted by WhiteTail48
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word is God.” John 1:1
The New Testament was written in Greek, and “Word” as used above is a translation of the Greek λόγος (logos), and is widely interpreted as referring to Jesus, as indicated in other verses later in the same chapter (verses 14-17). It is not synonymous with “the Bible.” It is a name or title for Jesus. The Greek logos means ‘the divine reason’ and is used to represent Jesus, who is the bridge between our inner spiritual needs and the answer proclaimed by the Gospel.
So the verse quoted above can be said, “In the beginning was Jesus, and Jesus was with God, and Jesus is God.”
I certainly don’t think there’s been a surge of atheism in this country, but there certainly has been a migration away from Christianity over the last 20 years or so. These folks are simply unaffiliated; they’ve simply disconnected from any religious affiliation, Christianity in particular. They don’t embrace any beliefs in particular, they’re not atheists or agnostics, and they don’t identify as Christian’s. They can’t really describe what they are, they just know what they’re not. And I don’t blame em’.
Maybe close to 25% of the total population, 35% of millennials, mostly males and mostly well educated, theologically apathetic…don’t know and don’t care, and don’t feel like they even need to know. They’re not hostile toward religion, they’re just not affiliated with it. And again, I don’t blame em’.
To me, the migration away from Christianity in this country is the church’s fault. The responsibility lies at the feet of the church. To me, the reason that so many people have disengaged from Christianity is not because of the message; it’s mostly because of the messengers. It’s not the fault of the unaffiliated that they've found Christianity so unappealing and unengaging and so irrational and so unscientific, and so ungracious; it’s the fault of the church.
When you open the Gospels, when you look at the way that Jesus interacted with people…and He’s the person whose at the very epicenter of everything Christians claim to believe and everything they do…you’ll see that people who were nothing like Jesus, liked Jesus. And you’ll see that He liked them back.
So maybe, if the version of Christianity that we’re seeing today isn’t attractive or compelling, maybe the church has the wrong version. There sure are a lotta deconversion stories out there. And I’ve never heard a deconversion story that had anything to do with who Jesus is. Many people have walked away from Christianity. And I think “why” is an important question that the church should be asking itself. It’s not appealing to so many people. And to me, in many cases, it’s not even accurate.
It is clear you do not read the Bible. The Church does not change to fit society. The Gospel is the same it has always been from the beginning. That is what is taught clearly and unambiguously in the Bible.
"Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it." Mat 7:14
Many, many people are hostile to the Gospel. The Gospel taught in the Bible. People always have been. Why? Because it convicts them. It tells them they are worthless sinners. Ya, that's what is says. It tells them that if they live the way they want to live they will die in their sins. They don't like that. Tickling peoples ears is not saving anyone.
During the time between the resurrection of Jesus and the time that Constantine became the emperor of Rome, Christianity grew a lot and gained a lotta influence. Constantine reportedly didn’t embrace Christianity because he was all that interested in becoming a Christian personally. He embraced Christianity to unify the Roman Empire. The significance of that is staggering. He had to find something that most people in the empire had in common, and it wasn’t the Roman gods anymore. It was Christianity, the very faith that the empire had tried to eradicate and stamp out. And that was due to the significant spread of Christianity in its most difficult years.
Christianity made its greatest strides...when Christians faced tremendous hardship...during the nearly 300 years before the Bible ever even existed. Christianity grew from the time of Jesus to the time of Constantine not on the back of “the Bible says.” The Hebrew scriptures weren’t combined with the New Testament documents until about 350 years after Jesus’ birth. Before the OT and the NT were combined and titled ‘the Bible’, Christianity had already replaced the entire pantheon of Roman, Barbarian, and most Egyptian gods and was the state religion of the Roman Empire itself. Before anyone had ever held ‘the Bible’ in their hands. And it would be close to the invention of the printing press before anyone...unless they were a priest...ever held one in their hands.
1st, 2nd, and 3rd century Christians didn’t choose to follow Jesus because of an infallible OT or a non-contradicting NT; they didn’t choose to follow Jesus because of ‘the Bible’ that didn’t even exist yet. They were followers of Jesus because He rose from the dead. For the first 300 years, the focus was centered on an event, not on a book. The focus wasn’t “is the Bible true”...the focus was “did Jesus rise from the dead”...? And Matthew…who was an eyewitness…said He did, and documented it separately; and so did Mark, who spent time with Peter and got Peter’s eyewitness account, and documented it separately; and so did John…who was an eyewitness… and documented separately an account of Jesus’ life; Peter was an eyewitness and knew Jesus rose from the dead, and later on wrote letters separately to the churches to say so; and James…who was one of the earliest witnesses of his brother’s resurrection and became one of the pillars of the church…said so; Luke came along a little later, and thoroughly investigated these events and talked to as many eyewitnesses as possible, and put together a separate account; and then a fire-breathing Pharisee named Paul, who was was gonna put the Jesus movement out of business, met the resurrected Jesus and knew He rose from the dead, and he became a raving fan and dedicated his life to taking the Gospel of Jesus to the Gentiles all over the Roman world, and he wrote about it separately.
There’s no explanation for the success of the early church if Jesus hadn’t risen from the dead. The success of the early church was not due to the Bible…there was no ‘the Bible’ at this time. The success of the church was totally due to eyewitness accounts of Jesus’ Resurrection. Fortunately those who were closest to the event, those who were eyewitnesses of the event, documented it. But they didn’t document what they believed, they documented what they saw. The focus, to me, isn’t the Bible; the focus is, and always has been, Jesus. Christianity didn’t disrupt the Roman Empire because of the Bible; Christianity disrupted the Roman Empire because of a resurrected Savior.
Jesus' church is lead through the Holy Spirit, not a pulpit, not some man's words, not a confined in a book.
God uses Spirit filled people to shepherd His flock. It has been that way since the beginning. Many of those people are in the pulpit.
Can I assume you’re saying “you are spirit filled, and thusly a shepherd of men” ?
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I wrote what I meant. The two sentences could not be more clear.
I simply stated what is clear in the Bible.
Nothing is clear in the Bible.That is why no two denominations can agree on anything written in the Bible.Then there are those few chosen that know exactly what is in the Bible.There is a name for them." Delusional"
... or perhaps those who reject Christ are delusional. Time will tell.
I see it differently. Some people deify the Bible, some people worship the Bible. I don’t.
Originally Posted by WhiteTail48
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word is God.” John 1:1
The New Testament was written in Greek, and “Word” as used above is a translation of the Greek λόγος (logos), and is widely interpreted as referring to Jesus, as indicated in other verses later in the same chapter (verses 14-17). It is not synonymous with “the Bible.” It is a name or title for Jesus. The Greek logos means ‘the divine reason’ and is used to represent Jesus, who is the bridge between our inner spiritual needs and the answer proclaimed by the Gospel.
So the verse quoted above can be said, “In the beginning was Jesus, and Jesus was with God, and Jesus is God.”
Matthew 7:2 New International Version For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
A couple of members here have consigned me to hell for my beliefs or lack thereof. They are pretty shrill about it. Does this mean I will have them for company?
I'm not the judge so I couldn't tell you. You do have some "interesting" interpretations of scripture though I'll give you that much.
During the time between the resurrection of Jesus and the time that Constantine became the emperor of Rome, Christianity grew a lot and gained a lotta influence. Constantine reportedly didn’t embrace Christianity because he was all that interested in becoming a Christian personally. He embraced Christianity to unify the Roman Empire. The significance of that is staggering. He had to find something that most people in the empire had in common, and it wasn’t the Roman gods anymore. It was Christianity, the very faith that the empire had tried to eradicate and stamp out. And that was due to the significant spread of Christianity in its most difficult years.
Christianity made its greatest strides...when Christians faced tremendous hardship...during the nearly 300 years before the Bible ever even existed. Christianity grew from the time of Jesus to the time of Constantine not on the back of “the Bible says.” The Hebrew scriptures weren’t combined with the New Testament documents until about 350 years after Jesus’ birth. Before the OT and the NT were combined and titled ‘the Bible’, Christianity had already replaced the entire pantheon of Roman, Barbarian, and most Egyptian gods and was the state religion of the Roman Empire itself. Before anyone had ever held ‘the Bible’ in their hands. And it would be close to the invention of the printing press before anyone...unless they were a priest...ever held one in their hands.
1st, 2nd, and 3rd century Christians didn’t choose to follow Jesus because of an infallible OT or a non-contradicting NT; they didn’t choose to follow Jesus because of ‘the Bible’ that didn’t even exist yet. They were followers of Jesus because He rose from the dead. For the first 300 years, the focus was centered on an event, not on a book. The focus wasn’t “is the Bible true”...the focus was “did Jesus rise from the dead”...? And Matthew…who was an eyewitness…said He did, and documented it separately; and so did Mark, who spent time with Peter and got Peter’s eyewitness account, and documented it separately; and so did John…who was an eyewitness… and documented separately an account of Jesus’ life; Peter was an eyewitness and knew Jesus rose from the dead, and later on wrote letters separately to the churches to say so; and James…who was one of the earliest witnesses of his brother’s resurrection and became one of the pillars of the church…said so; Luke came along a little later later, and thoroughly investigated these events and talked to as many eyewitnesses as possible, and put together a separate account; and then a fire-breathing Pharisee named Paul, who was was gonna put the Jesus movement out of business, met the resurrected Jesus and knew He rose from the dead, and he became a raving fan and dedicated his life to taking the Gospel of Jesus to the Gentiles all over the Roman world, and he wrote about it separately.
There’s no explanation for the success of the church if Jesus hadn’t risen from the dead. The success of the early church was not due to the Bible…there was no ‘the Bible’ at this time. The success of the church was totally due to eyewitness accounts of Jesus’ Resurrection. Fortunately those who were closest to the event, those who were eyewitnesses of the event, documented it. But they didn’t document what they believed, they documented what they saw. The focus, to me, isn’t the Bible; the focus is, and always has been, Jesus. Christianity didn’t disrupt the Roman Empire because of the Bible; Christianity disrupted the Roman Empire because of a resurrected Savior.
Christ quoted the Bible. Paul quoted the Bible. Peter quoted the Bible. They all were intimately familiar with the word of God, which was written down in the form of the Old testament - The Bible at that time.
Just because the New Testament was canonized later does not make the fact that the written Holy Scripture was not essential to God's revelation. He, God, used written revelation.
Paul said: "All Scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness," 2 Tim 3:16, OBVIOUSLY, He, Paul,had a written scripture. So OBVIOUSLY Jesus also had written Scripture - The Bible.
Faith? Faith in what? Gal 1:8 "But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed."
Doesn't Paul sound like a nut case in your quote? He's saying no matter who contradicts him, "let him be accursed". No wonder Jesus in Revelation 2:2 praised the Ephesians for getting rid of Paul. Read Paul thoroughly and compare his doctrine to Jesus. You will see.
There is no mismatch between Paul and Christ's teaching.
So the verse quoted above can be said, “In the beginning was Jesus, and Jesus was with God, and Jesus is God.”
No sht sherlock. The point is that the writer used the word logos, which means a "divine utterance", both written and spoken to tell us that Christ and His words as recorded in the Bible are divine. Otherwise the author would have just used the word Christ.
Jesus, Peter, and Paul sometimes referred to the Hebrew Scriptures…which is not ‘the Bible’…when they were talking to Jews because it’s what they (the Jews) knew at the time. It’s the information they had been given.
Paul differed his approach depending upon who his audience was. Talking with Greeks in Philippi or Corinth required a different line of discourse than talking with Jews. He clearly said, “To the Jews I became as a Jew, in order to win Jews. To those under the law I became as one under the law that I might win those under the law. To those outside the law I became as one outside the law that I might win those outside the law. To the weak I became weak, that I might win the weak. I have become all things to all people, that by all means I might save some.” Adjusting his approach was a good idea.
Paul took the gospel of Jesus as Messiah to the Greek speaking world of his day...and it likely wasn’t an easy undertaking. They were educated in Greek philosophy and literature...and they had their own opinions about their traditions and their gods. Paul used the ideas and philosophy of thinkers like Aristotle, Plato, and Socrates...and intellectuals of their day like Seneca...to his advantage, to help these people better understand his teachings of the Gospel. It’s very likely they would have understood the ideas and metaphors he was using, as they would’ve been very familiar with them.
This video is geared towards believers. Unbelievers can (and do) do anything they want. There are no rules. As a believer, can anyone name something Godly about halloween?
Or Valentine's Day, or Ground Hog Day, or a birthday, or President's Day. What is the problem that a Christian would have unless you're into witchcraft or Satan worship? For the record, I do not participate in Halloween.
Faith? Faith in what? Gal 1:8 "But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed."
Doesn't Paul sound like a nut case in your quote? He's saying no matter who contradicts him, "let him be accursed". No wonder Jesus in Revelation 2:2 praised the Ephesians for getting rid of Paul. Read Paul thoroughly and compare his doctrine to Jesus. You will see.
There is no mismatch between Paul and Christ's teaching.
Christ did not reject Paul.
Hat, are you buying candy for the kiddies on Halloween, or not ?
So the verse quoted above can be said, “In the beginning was Jesus, and Jesus was with God, and Jesus is God.”
No sht sherlock. The point is that the writer used the word logos, which means a "divine utterance", both written and spoken to tell us that Christ and His words as recorded in the Bible are divine. Otherwise the author would have just used the word Christ.
Originally Posted by WhiteTail48
…the entire Bible is Jesus.
The point is that the writer was not saying, “In the beginning was the Bible, and the Bible was with God, and the Bible is God.”
And the point is that the writer was also referencing the pre-existent second person of the Trinity.
Faith? Faith in what? Gal 1:8 "But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed."
Doesn't Paul sound like a nut case in your quote? He's saying no matter who contradicts him, "let him be accursed". No wonder Jesus in Revelation 2:2 praised the Ephesians for getting rid of Paul. Read Paul thoroughly and compare his doctrine to Jesus. You will see.
There is no mismatch between Paul and Christ's teaching. Christ did not reject Paul.
I'm beginning to think you aren't going to change your mind.
It’s incredible how the evil b-stards NEVER stop hating, persecuting, and ridiculing Christians that speak out about their beliefs; but pretend to be “objective” or “logical”!! LMAO! How can anyone be so full of hate, and yet so clueless? No, it’s not funny. I truly pity you wretched human beings. It must be miserable to be you
The irony of the most hate-filled post on this thread is obviously lost on you.
It’s incredible how the evil b-stards NEVER stop hating, persecuting, and ridiculing Christians that speak out about their beliefs; but pretend to be “objective” or “logical”!! LMAO! How can anyone be so full of hate, and yet so clueless? No, it’s not funny. I truly pity you wretched human beings. It must be miserable to be you
The irony of the most hate-filled post on this thread is obviously lost on you.
So the verse quoted above can be said, “In the beginning was Jesus, and Jesus was with God, and Jesus is God.”
No sht sherlock. The point is that the writer used the word logos, which means a "divine utterance", both written and spoken to tell us that Christ and His words as recorded in the Bible are divine. Otherwise the author would have just used the word Christ.
Originally Posted by WhiteTail48
…the entire Bible is Jesus.
The point is that the writer was not saying, “In the beginning was the Bible, and the Bible was with God, and the Bible is God.” And the point is that the writer was also referencing the pre-existent second person of the Trinity.
You were led astray when you were told to disregard the Bible.
The Bible is the written word of God. Christ tell us both that He had a Bible AND it is the Holy word of God. "But he answered, “It is written, “‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of God.’” Mat 4:4
Christ told us His word is truth. "Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth." John 17:17
Christ told us He is The Truth. "Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6
It’s incredible how the evil b-stards NEVER stop hating, persecuting, and ridiculing Christians that speak out about their beliefs; but pretend to be “objective” or “logical”!! LMAO! How can anyone be so full of hate, and yet so clueless? No, it’s not funny. I truly pity you wretched human beings. It must be miserable to be you
The irony of the most hate-filled post on this thread is obviously lost on you.
Which is anything but surprising.
It's a strawman. Rejecting Halloween has nothing to do with hating anyone. Halloween is not a person. Halloween is a large collection of symbols and beliefs.
I don't care about the childish practices associated with Halloween like candy and dress up.
I reject the core of what Halloween is and what it is celebrating. It is an occult religious holiday.
Halloween is a secular holiday. It has been made so by mass marketing just like Christmas. It is only a religious holiday by those who approach it as such just like Christmas.
To intimate that participating in candy and costumes is worship and can cause someone to be a pagan is equivalent to saying that striking a yoga pose will make you a practitioner of eastern meditation religion and subject to demonic possession.
Halloween is a secular holiday. It has been made so by mass marketing just like Christmas. It is only a religious holiday by those who approach it as such just like Christmas.
To intimate that participating in candy and costumes is worship and can cause someone to be a pagan is equivalent to saying that striking a yoga pose will make you a practitioner of eastern meditation religion and subject to demonic possession.
I don't intimate anything about Halloween. I stated plainly what I meant. Read.
It’s incredible how the evil b-stards NEVER stop hating, persecuting, and ridiculing Christians that speak out about their beliefs; but pretend to be “objective” or “logical”!! LMAO! How can anyone be so full of hate, and yet so clueless? No, it’s not funny. I truly pity you wretched human beings. It must be miserable to be you
The irony of the most hate-filled post on this thread is obviously lost on you.
Which is anything but surprising.
It's a strawman. Rejecting Halloween has nothing to do with hating anyone. Halloween is not a person. Halloween is a large collection of symbols and beliefs.
I don't care about the childish practices associated with Halloween like candy and dress up.
I reject the core of what Halloween is and what it is celebrating. It is an occult religious holiday.
A strawman you say? That's doubly ironic, since none of the three previous posts you quoted and "responded " to have anything to do with rejecting Halloween.
Meet sacrificed to idols it’s not me sacrificed items. There is only one God. It is a matter of a conscience where did you eat that me or not. And yes you did intimate that by talking about and assigning value to those symbols. You should probably be very careful to not strike any pose that looks like a yoga pose. Demons will enter your body if you do.
It’s incredible how the evil b-stards NEVER stop hating, persecuting, and ridiculing Christians that speak out about their beliefs; but pretend to be “objective” or “logical”!! LMAO! How can anyone be so full of hate, and yet so clueless? No, it’s not funny. I truly pity you wretched human beings. It must be miserable to be you
The irony of the most hate-filled post on this thread is obviously lost on you.
Which is anything but surprising.
It's a strawman. Rejecting Halloween has nothing to do with hating anyone. Halloween is not a person. Halloween is a large collection of symbols and beliefs.
I don't care about the childish practices associated with Halloween like candy and dress up.
I reject the core of what Halloween is and what it is celebrating. It is an occult religious holiday.
A strawman you say? That's doubly ironic, since none of the three previous posts you quoted and "responded " to have anything to do with rejecting Halloween.
If you think the meme was posted in the wrong thread then complain to the poster. Not me.
Meet sacrificed to idols it’s not me sacrificed items. There is only one God. It is a matter of a conscience where did you eat that me or not. And yes you did intimate that by talking about and assigning value to those symbols. You should probably be very careful to not strike any pose that looks like a yoga pose. Demons will enter your body if you do.
I never said eating Halloween candy was a sin. I expressly said Christians should not participate in the celebration of a pagan holiday. It is a purely pagan holiday. Christ nor ANY of the Apostles ever justified Christians celebrating the pagan holidays of his day.
If you are going to intimate Biblical justifications yous should do it openly and plainly. 1 Cor 8:4 is followed by 1 Cor 8:7 "However, there is not in every man that knowledge; for some, with conscience of the idol until this hour, eat it as a thing offered unto an idol, and their conscience, being weak, is defiled."
Some people deify and worship the Bible. And some people worship the risen Jesus. And sometimes those who deify and worship the Bible castigate those who worship the risen Jesus because they don’t deify and worship the Bible.
To me, Bibliolatry is just another form of idolatry.
The Bible is held up as the Word. The Gnosticism that you hold to is not what is taught, in scripture, as the means by which God communicates with mankind or the believer. To make a wild claim that people worship the Bible is nothing more than a strawman argument to support and unorthodox view of the faith.
Personal “revelation and communication” which really doesn’t exist in the way that modern charismatic heresy teaches Is the reason we have so many bastardize views of white Christianity is and why it’s so dam(Ned) confusing to the masses.
I see it differently. If someone gave up on Christianity because of something in the Bible or something about the Bible, they may have given up on Christianity unnecessarily. Even if someone is leaning towards the door and is about to leave Christianity because of something in the Bible or something about the Bible, they don’t have to leave.
And here’s why that is - Jesus’ most devout first century followers never owned the Bible, never read the Bible...because there was no ‘the Bible’ to be had or read. But these men and women turned the world upside down; they’re the reason that people worship Jesus today; and they never held the Bible because there was no ‘the Bible’ until the fourth century.
So what happened...? What did they believe...? What did they know...? Why is it that people are so quick to (and so easily persuaded to) walk away from faith because of a book that didn’t even exist when Christianity began...? How we talk about the Bible can be an obstacle. And what we point to as the foundation of our faith...for most Christians...unfortunately, is the Bible. We’ve been taught...unfortunately...that the Bible is the foundation of our faith.
What served as the foundation of faith for the first century church...? We should take the cues about the foundation of our faith from those who were closest to the action...the first century, first followers of Jesus. What was the foundation of Peter’s faith…? Where did Peter get his hope…? How is it that he was now walking around in the open - being bold and confident and preaching - whereas before, he was afraid and hid for his life...? The foundation of his faith was not something he’d read or had read to him. The foundation of his faith was something that he’d seen.
What should be the foundation of our faith...? What should be the center of our confidence...? Peter would say “that’s easy...the resurrection of Jesus. The foundation of our faith is not a book - it is an event. The Bible did not create Christianity. The Christians eventually created the Bible. The foundation of our faith is not a group of manuscripts; the foundation of our faith is not a book ~ it’s the events that inspired the book; events that inspired writers, guided by the Holy Spirit, to document conversations, insights and events—the pivotal event being the resurrection of Jesus.
Peter believed what he believed because of what he saw. He saw Jesus die, and later, he saw the risen Jesus. The resurrection of Jesus was the foundation of Peter’s faith; he clearly said so. The resurrection of Jesus is the foundation of my faith as well
Again, I see it differently. The Holy Spirit is a teacher, a helper, and an advocate. Some followers of Jesus truly believe that the same Spirit of God that raised Jesus from the dead actually resides within them, and teaches them the things that God wants them to know, and helps them live the way that God wants them to live.
Apostle John, who was an eyewitness of Jesus’ earthly ministry, who believed in Jesus, and then after He died he quit believing, and then after the resurrection he started believing again, who was ultimately arrested by Emperor Domitian and put on the island of Patmos to rot, who had seen more bloodshed personally than most of a whole bunch of us put together, who had lost friends to acts of terror by the Romans and by the Jewish Temple leaders, who had seen the entire Jewish Temple destroyed, said that, “God is love.”
When Jesus was about to be crucified and He gathered with His closest followers that last night together, He said “this will be the distinguishing mark of those who follow me”…not whatcha know, not whatcha read, not whatcha memorize, and not whatcha do on Sunday morning…“the distinguishing mark of those who claim to be my followers is that you love one another.” Why…? Because that love for other people reflected the nature of God.
What passes for Christianity nowadays is very different from the first-generation passion of what it meant to follow Jesus back then. And that’s very likely why the church isn’t connecting with our current culture. The gospel of grace was and is an irresistible message. The first century approach of advancing the gospel of grace modeled by Jesus and His apostles and His other followers is the exception rather than the rule nowadays. It’s no wonder that so many people resist it, reject it, and rebuff its followers. The fault doesn’t lie with Jesus or His teachings or His life’s example. He taught a simple ethic in the great commandment: love God and love others; love others as I have loved you.
But that is not what is exemplified by a great many Christians nowadays.
I am attracted to what Christianity originally was.
A great many Christians nowadays seem to have an uneasy relationship with grace. 'The church' seems to do best when it’s characterized by grace...it is certainly more appealing when the message of grace is most apparent...grace that was modeled and taught by Jesus. But grace seems to often be an early casualty in the world of organized Christianity. A great many Christians seem to gravitate toward graceless religion...they define themselves in terms of what they are against...instead of defining themselves in terms of what they are 'for'. Jesus consistently criticized graceless religion and its practitioners...and He consistently criticized graceless religious leaders. The ones who had Him killed were those who claimed to know God the most...but they knew little of grace. And they confirmed everything he said about them by doing so.
The church is most appealing when grace is most apparent. And ‘Christian’s’ are most appealing when grace is most apparent.
Some people deify and worship the Bible. And some people worship the risen Jesus. And sometimes those who deify and worship the Bible castigate those who worship the risen Jesus because they don’t deify and worship the Bible.
To me, Bibliolatry is just another form of idolatry.
I know of know one who worships the Bible. You have fabricated a phony sin called Bibliolatry. The Bible is The written Word of God. Christians don't worship a book. Christians worship Christ. His disciples who walked with Him called The Christ the Word of God. They did this intentionally.
Christ, the risen Jesus, was documented in the Bible. That is how we know about Him. Your rejection of the Bible makes no sense since the Jesus you claim to worship is given to us through the special revelation of God's written word.
Furthermore you have repeatedly said the 1st century Church had no Bible. I have proven to you this is false.
The Bible is held up as the Word. The Gnosticism that you hold to is not what is taught, in scripture, as the means by which God communicates with mankind or the believer. To make a wild claim that people worship the Bible is nothing more than a strawman argument to support and unorthodox view of the faith.
Interesting observation. antlers is very careful to not describe his faith in any detail. I do wonder if it is a form Gnosticism.
And here’s why that is - Jesus’ most devout first century followers never owned the Bible, never read the Bible...because there was no ‘the Bible’ to be had or read.
This is categorically false. We know for an absolute fact through secular archeology they had a Bible, for example, the dead sea scrolls and other sources.
Again, I see it differently. The Holy Spirit is a teacher, a helper, and an advocate. Some followers of Jesus truly believe that the same Spirit of God that raised Jesus from the dead actually resides within them, and teaches them the things that God wants them to know, and helps them live the way that God wants them to live.
This in no way is cause to reject or allows us to ignore the Bible. The Bible tells us how to know we have the Holy Spirit. The Bible tells us what the fruit of The Spirit is.
Dunno man, books just might have been uncommon in those days.
Christ Himself quotes from Scripture when he taught His disciples. All the Disciples talk about reading, studying and quoting Scripture. They were all practices Jews. They all had access to Scripture.
So we have BOTH secular sources and Biblical sources demonstrating that the early Church had access to and used Scripture.
Apostle John, who was an eyewitness of Jesus’ earthly ministry, who believed in Jesus, and then after He died he quit believing, and then after the resurrection he started believing again, who was ultimately arrested by Emperor Domitian and put on the island of Patmos to rot, who had seen more bloodshed personally than most of a whole bunch of us put together, who had lost friends to acts of terror by the Romans and by the Jewish Temple leaders, who had seen the entire Jewish Temple destroyed, said that, “God is love.”
When Jesus was about to be crucified and He gathered with His closest followers that last night together, He said “this will be the distinguishing mark of those who follow me”…not whatcha know, not whatcha read, not whatcha memorize, and not whatcha do on Sunday morning…“the distinguishing mark of those who claim to be my followers is that you love one another.” Why…? Because that love for other people reflected the nature of God.
What passes for Christianity nowadays is very different from the first-generation passion of what it meant to follow Jesus back then. And that’s very likely why the church isn’t connecting with our current culture. The gospel of grace was and is an irresistible message. The first century approach of advancing the gospel of grace modeled by Jesus and His apostles and His other followers is the exception rather than the rule nowadays. It’s no wonder that so many people resist it, reject it, and rebuff its followers. The fault doesn’t lie with Jesus or His teachings or His life’s example. He taught a simple ethic in the great commandment: love God and love others; love others as I have loved you.
You try and reject the Bible all why kind of quoting it. You paraphrase the Bible while rejecting it. If you don't use the Bible where do you get your spiritual knowledge?
You have no idea what original Christianity was like with out the Bible. How can you not see how nonsensical your position is. Your claim about how bad Christianity is today compared to original Christians requires the Bible to make.
Apostle John, who was an eyewitness of Jesus’ earthly ministry, who believed in Jesus, and then after He died he quit believing, and then after the resurrection he started believing again, who was ultimately arrested by Emperor Domitian and put on the island of Patmos to rot, who had seen more bloodshed personally than most of a whole bunch of us put together, who had lost friends to acts of terror by the Romans and by the Jewish Temple leaders, who had seen the entire Jewish Temple destroyed, said that, “God is love.”
When Jesus was about to be crucified and He gathered with His closest followers that last night together, He said “this will be the distinguishing mark of those who follow me”…not whatcha know, not whatcha read, not whatcha memorize, and not whatcha do on Sunday morning…“the distinguishing mark of those who claim to be my followers is that you love one another.” Why…? Because that love for other people reflected the nature of God.
What passes for Christianity nowadays is very different from the first-generation passion of what it meant to follow Jesus back then. And that’s very likely why the church isn’t connecting with our current culture. The gospel of grace was and is an irresistible message. The first century approach of advancing the gospel of grace modeled by Jesus and His apostles and His other followers is the exception rather than the rule nowadays. It’s no wonder that so many people resist it, reject it, and rebuff its followers. The fault doesn’t lie with Jesus or His teachings or His life’s example. He taught a simple ethic in the great commandment: love God and love others; love others as I have loved you.
You try and reject the Bible all why kind of quoting it. You paraphrase the Bible while rejecting it. If you don't use the Bible where do you get your spiritual knowledge?
You have no idea what original Christianity was like with out the Bible. How can you not see how nonsensical your position is. Your claim about how bad Christianity is today compared to original Christians requires the Bible to make.
You haven't understood a word he's written. Or worse yet, you have understood and are deliberately misrepresenting it.
He never said Christianity itself was bad. Just the man-made edifice put up around it by the likes of you and crampy glamper.
Having an understanding of how ‘the Bible’ came to be is not only enlightening, it bolsters one’s confidence in the Gospel. There’s a big difference between knowing the stories in ‘the Bible’, and knowing the story of ‘the Bible’. Most of us have a personal copy of ‘the Bible’ that has been chaptered, versed, mapped, and wrapped in genuine imitation leather. Many even have footnotes. The Hebrew scriptures are bound together with the Christian manuscripts of the New Testament comprising ‘the Bible’.
Jesus is the reason that we have ‘the Bible’. The story of ‘the Bible’ does not begin with Genesis. The story of the Bible begins with Jesus’ resurrection after He had been crucified. If Jesus hadn’t risen from the dead, ‘the Bible’ wouldn’t even exist. There would’ve been nothing to write about. The reason people documented the life of Jesus is because He rose from the dead. So we have these documents of the Gospel that were accounts of Jesus’ life. And these documents were considered reliable, valuable, sacred, and inspired. But ‘the Bible’ itself still didn’t even exist. There were just separate accounts of Jesus’ life that the early church held in high regard.
And Paul and others left Judea and started telling the Gentiles about Jesus. And more and more Gentiles in different parts of the world embraced the Gospel and came to faith in Jesus. And churches were created and the Epistles were generated. And these early Gentile Christians, who previously had zero interest in the Hebrew scriptures, saw that they pointed to the Messiah, who they recognized and believed to be Jesus. The Hebrew scriptures didn’t become the first part of the Christian Bible, first.
But they began to accept the Hebrew scriptures, in addition to the Christian manuscripts of the New Testament, and it set the stage for the inclusion of the Hebrew scriptures into ‘the Bible’…the Christian Bible…in the 4th century.
Christianity not only preceded the Bible; Christianity is the reason that we have ‘the Bible’. And there were many thousands of Christians before ‘the Bible’ ever came along in the 4th century.
Apostle John, who was an eyewitness of Jesus’ earthly ministry, who believed in Jesus, and then after He died he quit believing, and then after the resurrection he started believing again, who was ultimately arrested by Emperor Domitian and put on the island of Patmos to rot, who had seen more bloodshed personally than most of a whole bunch of us put together, who had lost friends to acts of terror by the Romans and by the Jewish Temple leaders, who had seen the entire Jewish Temple destroyed, said that, “God is love.”
When Jesus was about to be crucified and He gathered with His closest followers that last night together, He said “this will be the distinguishing mark of those who follow me”…not whatcha know, not whatcha read, not whatcha memorize, and not whatcha do on Sunday morning…“the distinguishing mark of those who claim to be my followers is that you love one another.” Why…? Because that love for other people reflected the nature of God.
What passes for Christianity nowadays is very different from the first-generation passion of what it meant to follow Jesus back then. And that’s very likely why the church isn’t connecting with our current culture. The gospel of grace was and is an irresistible message. The first century approach of advancing the gospel of grace modeled by Jesus and His apostles and His other followers is the exception rather than the rule nowadays. It’s no wonder that so many people resist it, reject it, and rebuff its followers. The fault doesn’t lie with Jesus or His teachings or His life’s example. He taught a simple ethic in the great commandment: love God and love others; love others as I have loved you.
You try and reject the Bible all why kind of quoting it. You paraphrase the Bible while rejecting it. If you don't use the Bible where do you get your spiritual knowledge?
You have no idea what original Christianity was like with out the Bible. How can you not see how nonsensical your position is. Your claim about how bad Christianity is today compared to original Christians requires the Bible to make.
You haven't understood a word he's written. Or worse yet, you have understood and are deliberately misrepresenting it.
He never said Christianity itself was bad. Just the man-made edifice put up around it by the likes of you and crampy glamper.
I'm afraid you do not understand.
He rejects the Bible. This is clear from dozens of posts of his including the one I responded to. He then, in the post right there before your eyes, compare current and previous "versions" of Christianity. He does, in fact, claim the current version is bad comparatively.
I then point out that his position falls apart because he is using the very same Bible to gain his information about past Christianity.
A follow on is ... If you reject the Bible then you can't use the Bible to reject the Bible. Obviously.
The first century approach to advancing the Gospel modeled by Jesus and the apostles was very effective. And it was very attractive. Jesus’ resurrection was at the center of the first century apologetic. Maybe twenty first century believers ought to reclaim it as the center of theirs as well. Seems some have complicated it; seems some want it to be more demanding. That’s just pushing people away from the roots of the faith. The faith isn’t founded on a long list of rules, and it isn’t founded on ‘the Bible’ either. It’s founded on the death and resurrection of Jesus. Pretty simple really.
The religious landscape in America has shifted. Fewer and fewer Americans are self-identifying as Christians, and nearly 56 million Americans now identify as being religiously unaffiliated. And that’s in a society that’s rooted in the history, culture, and practices of Christianity…but millions have and are walking away from it, and millions more have and are flat-out rejecting it. That is clear evidence of the overall abject failure of the church nowadays. Yep, failure.
Our culture questions biblical authority more so now than ever before. It values education and reason and science and reality, and doesn’t value faith based answers to fact based questions. We know the earth is 4.5 billion years old, and the universe is 13.8 billion years old. And there is tension when folks try to resolve the realities of their lives with Sunday school depictions of reality. “The Bible says” and “the Bible teaches” and “God’s Word is clear” doesn’t carry any weight with millions and millions of people nowadays. Everything’s an adversary to many of those in the church; they’re so defensive. Why not view changes and advancements as opportunities to underscore the faith, rather than as intentions to undermine the faith…?
Apostle’s Peter and Paul, both prominent leaders in the first-century church, adjusted their approaches in light of their audiences. But while they tailored and adapted their approaches, their central message remained the same. And so, like Peter and Paul, maybe the church ought to change their hermeneutical approach to advancing the Gospel. The foundation of Christianity is an event, not a book. Even Apostle Paul said, “For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ.”
The first century approach to advancing the Gospel modeled by Jesus and the apostles was very effective. And it was very attractive. Jesus’ resurrection was at the center of the first century apologetic. Maybe twenty first century believers ought to reclaim it as the center of theirs as well. Seems some have complicated it; seems some want it to be more demanding. That’s just pushing people away from the roots of the faith. The faith isn’t founded on a long list of rules, and it isn’t founded on ‘the Bible’ either. It’s founded on the death and resurrection of Jesus. Pretty simple really.
The religious landscape in America has shifted. Fewer and fewer Americans are self-identifying as Christians, and nearly 56 million Americans now identify as being religiously unaffiliated. And that’s in a society that’s rooted in the history, culture, and practices of Christianity…but millions have and are walking away from it, and millions more have and are flat-out rejecting it. That is clear evidence of the overall abject failure of the church nowadays. Yep, failure.
Our culture questions biblical authority more so now than ever before. It values education and reason and science and reality, and doesn’t value faith based answers to fact based questions. We know the earth is 4.5 billion years old, and the universe is 13.8 billion years old. And there is tension when folks try to resolve the realities of their lives with Sunday school depictions of reality. “The Bible says” and “the Bible teaches” and “God’s Word is clear” doesn’t carry any weight with millions and millions of people nowadays. Everything’s an adversary to many of those in the church; they’re so defensive. Why not view changes and advancements as opportunities to underscore the faith, rather than as intentions to undermine the faith…?
Apostle’s Peter and Paul, both prominent leaders in the first-century church, adjusted their approaches in light of their audiences. But while they tailored and adapted their approaches, their central message remained the same. And so, like Peter and Paul, maybe the church ought to change their hermeneutical approach to advancing the Gospel. The foundation of Christianity is an event, not a book. Even Apostle Paul said, “For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ.”
That`s way too simple for the Evangelists here.They need to tell you of all your faulty problems with the correct way of deciphering The Bible.They are way above their heads and need to bullchit others to try and raise their low self esteem.You are exactly right that this is the main reason I no longer attend any main stream church.There are too many of them hovering around thinking they are superior and think they can suck up to God.Good luck with that .
The first century approach to advancing the Gospel modeled by Jesus and the apostles was very effective. And it was very attractive. Jesus’ resurrection was at the center of the first century apologetic. Maybe twenty first century believers ought to reclaim it as the center of theirs as well. Seems some have complicated it; seems some want it to be more demanding. That’s just pushing people away from the roots of the faith. The faith isn’t founded on a long list of rules, and it isn’t founded on ‘the Bible’ either. It’s founded on the death and resurrection of Jesus. Pretty simple really.
The religious landscape in America has shifted. Fewer and fewer Americans are self-identifying as Christians, and nearly 56 million Americans now identify as being religiously unaffiliated. And that’s in a society that’s rooted in the history, culture, and practices of Christianity…but millions have and are walking away from it, and millions more have and are flat-out rejecting it. That is clear evidence of the overall abject failure of the church nowadays. Yep, failure.
Our culture questions biblical authority more so now than ever before. It values education and reason and science and reality, and doesn’t value faith based answers to fact based questions. We know the earth is 4.5 billion years old, and the universe is 13.8 billion years old. And there is tension when folks try to resolve the realities of their lives with Sunday school depictions of reality. “The Bible says” and “the Bible teaches” and “God’s Word is clear” doesn’t carry any weight with millions and millions of people nowadays. Everything’s an adversary to many of those in the church; they’re so defensive. Why not view changes and advancements as opportunities to underscore the faith, rather than as intentions to undermine the faith…?
Apostle’s Peter and Paul, both prominent leaders in the first-century church, adjusted their approaches in light of their audiences. But while they tailored and adapted their approaches, their central message remained the same. And so, like Peter and Paul, maybe the church ought to change their hermeneutical approach to advancing the Gospel. The foundation of Christianity is an event, not a book. Even Apostle Paul said, “For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ.”
And with this religious model, the whole earth wondered.............after the beast.
We try our best to no celebrate Halloween. KYHillChick and I live at the end of a dead-end street off another dead-end street. When my folks lived in the house, the got maybe 10 trick-or-treaters at the door. Since we've been living there, I haven't seen any. Nobody who has trudged that far wants to go up the steep driveway. We just keep the lights out.
It didn't used to be that way. When my sons were young, they enjoyed it, and we lived in a neighborhood that was heavily into it-- with one huge exception.
There was a family that lived down the street from us that used to put out this really odd decoration. It was a plywood cut-out of a sheep ringed in bright red ribbon lights. There was also a black cross similarly decorated. Some Christian family had decided to decorate their house this way. The sheep was bigger-than-life, more like cow size. We speculated it was supposed to be the Lamb of God, but the whole tableau looked more like a Black Angus Bull knocking over headstones in the cemetery. During the day it was freaky, because the cutouts were not lit. At night it was just plain weird.
Apostle John, who was an eyewitness of Jesus’ earthly ministry, who believed in Jesus, and then after He died he quit believing, and then after the resurrection he started believing again, who was ultimately arrested by Emperor Domitian and put on the island of Patmos to rot, who had seen more bloodshed personally than most of a whole bunch of us put together, who had lost friends to acts of terror by the Romans and by the Jewish Temple leaders, who had seen the entire Jewish Temple destroyed, said that, “God is love.”
When Jesus was about to be crucified and He gathered with His closest followers that last night together, He said “this will be the distinguishing mark of those who follow me”…not whatcha know, not whatcha read, not whatcha memorize, and not whatcha do on Sunday morning…“the distinguishing mark of those who claim to be my followers is that you love one another.” Why…? Because that love for other people reflected the nature of God.
What passes for Christianity nowadays is very different from the first-generation passion of what it meant to follow Jesus back then. And that’s very likely why the church isn’t connecting with our current culture. The gospel of grace was and is an irresistible message. The first century approach of advancing the gospel of grace modeled by Jesus and His apostles and His other followers is the exception rather than the rule nowadays. It’s no wonder that so many people resist it, reject it, and rebuff its followers. The fault doesn’t lie with Jesus or His teachings or His life’s example. He taught a simple ethic in the great commandment: love God and love others; love others as I have loved you.
You try and reject the Bible all why kind of quoting it. You paraphrase the Bible while rejecting it. If you don't use the Bible where do you get your spiritual knowledge?
You have no idea what original Christianity was like with out the Bible. How can you not see how nonsensical your position is. Your claim about how bad Christianity is today compared to original Christians requires the Bible to make.
You haven't understood a word he's written. Or worse yet, you have understood and are deliberately misrepresenting it.
He never said Christianity itself was bad. Just the man-made edifice put up around it by the likes of you and crampy glamper.
Not just HC and OH, but every church, every religious doctrine known, A. don't understand what was written, and B. are teaching a false religion that came right out of Asia Minor through the Edomites who claim today they are jews but are not. They have everyone waiting in fear of a visual second coming that even their Jesus said wouldn't happen visually. Luke 17:20-21 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: 21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you. Read it again........... The Kingdom of God cometh NOT with observation..........................why? because the Kingdom is within you, not outside of you.
It’s incredible how the evil b-stards NEVER stop hating, persecuting, and ridiculing Christians that speak out about their beliefs; but pretend to be “objective” or “logical”!! LMAO! How can anyone be so full of hate, and yet so clueless? No, it’s not funny. I truly pity you wretched human beings. It must be miserable to be you
The irony of the most hate-filled post on this thread is obviously lost on you.
Which is anything but surprising.
It's a strawman. Rejecting Halloween has nothing to do with hating anyone. Halloween is not a person. Halloween is a large collection of symbols and beliefs.
I don't care about the childish practices associated with Halloween like candy and dress up.
I reject the core of what Halloween is and what it is celebrating. It is an occult religious holiday.
A strawman you say? That's doubly ironic, since none of the three previous posts you quoted and "responded " to have anything to do with rejecting Halloween.
If you think the meme was posted in the wrong thread then complain to the poster. Not me.
Nope. It was posted here as a response to your all consuming hatred.
Apostle John, who was an eyewitness of Jesus’ earthly ministry, who believed in Jesus, and then after He died he quit believing, and then after the resurrection he started believing again, who was ultimately arrested by Emperor Domitian and put on the island of Patmos to rot, who had seen more bloodshed personally than most of a whole bunch of us put together, who had lost friends to acts of terror by the Romans and by the Jewish Temple leaders, who had seen the entire Jewish Temple destroyed, said that, “God is love.”
When Jesus was about to be crucified and He gathered with His closest followers that last night together, He said “this will be the distinguishing mark of those who follow me”…not whatcha know, not whatcha read, not whatcha memorize, and not whatcha do on Sunday morning…“the distinguishing mark of those who claim to be my followers is that you love one another.” Why…? Because that love for other people reflected the nature of God.
What passes for Christianity nowadays is very different from the first-generation passion of what it meant to follow Jesus back then. And that’s very likely why the church isn’t connecting with our current culture. The gospel of grace was and is an irresistible message. The first century approach of advancing the gospel of grace modeled by Jesus and His apostles and His other followers is the exception rather than the rule nowadays. It’s no wonder that so many people resist it, reject it, and rebuff its followers. The fault doesn’t lie with Jesus or His teachings or His life’s example. He taught a simple ethic in the great commandment: love God and love others; love others as I have loved you.
You try and reject the Bible all why kind of quoting it. You paraphrase the Bible while rejecting it. If you don't use the Bible where do you get your spiritual knowledge?
You have no idea what original Christianity was like with out the Bible. How can you not see how nonsensical your position is. Your claim about how bad Christianity is today compared to original Christians requires the Bible to make.
You haven't understood a word he's written. Or worse yet, you have understood and are deliberately misrepresenting it.
He never said Christianity itself was bad. Just the man-made edifice put up around it by the likes of you and crampy glamper.
Not just HC and OH, but every church, every religious doctrine known, A. don't understand what was written, and B. are teaching a false religion that came right out of Asia Minor through the Edomites who claim today they are jews but are not. They have everyone waiting in fear of a visual second coming that even their Jesus said wouldn't happen visually. Luke 17:20-21 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: 21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you. Read it again........... The Kingdom of God cometh NOT with observation..........................why? because the Kingdom is within you, not outside of you.
I’m always curious about views that I haven’t come across. If I were to look into your position a bit deeper what school of thought would I google?
I loved Halloween as a kid. Pumpkin patches, apple orchards, wagon rides, carving pumpkins, costumes, free candy, scary movies, haunted houses all of it. I still do but now with my kids. My son’s 18 but I’m doing it all over again with my five year old. Halloween whatever it’s original roots has been so commercialized that in this era it’s just a day to have fun.
The real meaning of Christmas and Easter were mainstreamed. I don’t feel at all bad about doing the same with Halloween.
Trick or treating starts at six oclock here. I have a bowl of Kit Kats and Snicker bars ready. If Satan stops by to claim my soul, he can have a Snickers for the road.
[quote=antlers]Apostle John, who was an eyewitness of Jesus’ earthly ministry, who believed in Jesus, and then after He died he quit believing, and then after the resurrection he started believing again, who was ultimately arrested by Emperor Domitian and put on the island of Patmos to rot, who had seen more bloodshed personally than most of a whole bunch of us put together, who had lost friends to acts of terror by the Romans and by the Jewish Temple leaders, who had seen the entire Jewish Temple destroyed, said that, “God is love.”
When Jesus was about to be crucified and He gathered with His closest followers that last night together, He said “this will be the distinguishing mark of those who follow me”…not whatcha know, not whatcha read, not whatcha memorize, and not whatcha do on Sunday morning…“the distinguishing mark of those who claim to be my followers is that you love one another.” Why…? Because that love for other people reflected the nature of God.
What passes for Christianity nowadays is very different from the first-generation passion of what it meant to follow Jesus back then. And that’s very likely why the church isn’t connecting with our current culture. The gospel of grace was and is an irresistible message. The first century approach of advancing the gospel of grace modeled by Jesus and His apostles and His other followers is the exception rather than the rule nowadays. It’s no wonder that so many people resist it, reject it, and rebuff its followers. The fault doesn’t lie with Jesus or His teachings or His life’s example. He taught a simple ethic in the great commandment: love God and love others; love others as I have loved you.
You try and reject the Bible all why kind of quoting it. You paraphrase the Bible while rejecting it. If you don't use the Bible where do you get your spiritual knowledge?
You have no idea what original Christianity was like with out the Bible. How can you not see how nonsensical your position is. Your claim about how bad Christianity is today compared to original Christians requires the Bible to make.
You haven't understood a word he's written. Or worse yet, you have understood and are deliberately misrepresenting it.
He never said Christianity itself was bad. Just the man-made edifice put up around it by the likes of you and crampy glamper.
Not just HC and OH, but every church, every religious doctrine known, A. don't understand what was written, and B. are teaching a false religion that came right out of Asia Minor through the Edomites who claim today they are jews but are not. They have everyone waiting in fear of a visual second coming that even their Jesus said wouldn't happen visually. Luke 17:20-21 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: 21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you. Read it again........... The Kingdom of God cometh NOT with observation..........................why? because the Kingdom is within you, not outside of you.
I’m always curious about views that I haven’t come across. If I were to look into your position a bit deeper what school of thought would I google?
Paul was the first corrupter of the doctrines of Jesus" Thomas Jefferson
Because those doctrines are church doctrines and not of Christ. But then the name Jesus was used and I do not know how that guy might have been. Cuban? Mexican? Certainly not Greek. Jehoshua I recognize which means Way or The Way...........i.e. I AM THE WAY, the truth and the light.
Paul was the first corrupter of the doctrines of Jesus" Thomas Jefferson
Because those doctrines are church doctrines and not of Christ. But then the name Jesus was used and I do not know how that guy might have been. Cuban? Mexican? Certainly not Greek. Jehoshua I recognize which means Way or The Way...........i.e. I AM THE WAY, the truth and the light.
His Name is Jesus in English. He is certainly the only Way to the Father in heaven and the Source of life, and the Tru Savior of the Bible.
Quoting Thomas Jefferson is not the same as quoting Thomas of the gospel of John. BIG difference! Jefferson changed the Bible to reflect a different Jesus.
"Doubting Thomas" recognized Jesus as the LORD and Almighty God. He realized that he was wrong and decided to believe Who he saw when Jesus materialized miraculously, revealing His hands and the huge hole in His side. He was extremely grateful and happy for receiving the free gift out of kindness from the Lord. Today he's in heaven.
On the other hand Thomas Jefferson rejected the Jesus of the Bible. He did Not believe that Jesus did miracles and edited the Bible to fit his agnostic views. He rejected the Lord and changed His Word, so the Lord rejected Thomas Jefferson. You've never met anyone who is as miserable as Thomas Jefferson is today. Why? He is in hell.
Question:. Which Thomas do you want to identify with.
Thomas who USED TO DOUBT? "But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came. The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe. And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you. Thenn saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed."
Simple choice and hope it's. /\
OR
Thomas the Rich man in hell?
Luke 16 "...The rich man also died, and was buried; And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. "
Not to be antagonistic HC, but there is no equivalent to the letter “J” or that hard “J” sound in English, that corresponds to any letters in Ancient Greek or Hebrew. I know this, because I’ve studied those languages. The letter J or it’s sound did not come along in the English language until the late Middle Ages in England
I don't argue with that. "I" changed to "J". Languages evolve, but the Savior didn't. No worries.
I noticed that there are more English speakers who insist that one of the Hebrew names should replace our English. Some go so far as to demand that Christ be rejected. I don't know what k22 believes, so not making any accusations. I'm running into a growing religion that is misleading people to change everything in our English translation into Hebrew. I'm not claiming that k22 believes this, but I've known a handful who have been swept up with the pseudo-spiritual Hebrew roots movement. It goes by other names too. The Name our Savior was given has various spellings based on language differences. The New Testament is a Greek Book and not Hebrew as some are claiming these days. Hopefully, the present company hasn't been led astray by fundamentally false doctrine.
HC, I’ve come across folks like that too; but I’m not one of them. I’ve had people I know go off the deep end, and get caught up in the “Hebrew” movement. Some have even gone so far as to deny Christ and turn to Judaism!
From my own experience, our Creator “is bountiful to those that call on Him in sincerity and truth”.
HC, I’ve come across folks like that too; but I’m not one of them. I’ve had people I know go off the deep end, and get caught up in the “Hebrew” movement. Some have even gone so far as to deny Christ and turn to Judaism!
From my own experience, our Creator “is bountiful to those that call on Him in sincerity and truth”.
Amen
I never thought you were Hebrew Roots. I just correct someone when I see a Hebrew reference to Jesus because most who do, simply haven't been informed about that. I care that they have a correct understanding of Who Christ really is, so they can know Him and trust Him. It's surprisingly getting to be popular, but I have yet to see people referring to Him as Iesous. I don't think that would be wrong, perhaps it's a Greek speaker. The important thing is that it's the right Jesus. I don't think Thomas Jefferson knew Him. He didn't believe in the resurrection, miracles, or Triunity of God. That's sad as he was a brilliant statesman and intellect.
HC, I’ve come across folks like that too; but I’m not one of them. I’ve had people I know go off the deep end, and get caught up in the “Hebrew” movement. Some have even gone so far as to deny Christ and turn to Judaism!
From my own experience, our Creator “is bountiful to those that call on Him in sincerity and truth”.
Amen
I never thought you were Hebrew Roots. I just correct someone when I see a Hebrew reference to Jesus because most who do, simply haven't been informed about that. I care that they have a correct understanding of Who Christ really is, so they can know Him and trust Him. It's surprisingly getting to be popular, but I have yet to see people referring to Him as Iesous. I don't think that would be wrong, perhaps it's a Greek speaker. The important thing is that it's the right Jesus. I don't think Thomas Jefferson knew Him. He didn't believe in the resurrection, miracles, or Triunity of God. That's sad as he was a brilliant statesman and intellect.
You are so right. If anyone believes and knows Jesus is the real deal it would have to be Satan.
Scripture states demons believe and they tremble.
Agnostics and atheists have to be the most deceived creatures on the Earth. Satan knows better.
DF
Oh really? Got any good evidence for those beliefs of yours?
How about the Amplified version of the Bible, James 2:19: Check out other versions. This one is pretty explicit.
You believe that God is one; you do well [to believe that]. The demons also believe [that], and shudder and bristle [in awe-filled terror—they have seen His wrath]
So if the demons know, how can a mere mortal stand up and claim there is no God. If one doesn't know that he doesn't know, he thinks he knows. If that's not deceived, what is?
I don't argue with that. "I" changed to "J". Languages evolve, but the Savior didn't. No worries.
I noticed that there are more English speakers who insist that one of the Hebrew names should replace our English. Some go so far as to demand that Christ be rejected. I don't know what k22 believes, so not making any accusations. I'm running into a growing religion that is misleading people to change everything in our English translation into Hebrew. I'm not claiming that k22 believes this, but I've known a handful who have been swept up with the pseudo-spiritual Hebrew roots movement. It goes by other names too. The Name our Savior was given has various spellings based on language differences. The New Testament is a Greek Book and not Hebrew as some are claiming these days. Hopefully, the present company hasn't been led astray by fundamentally false doctrine.
Not to sound sarcastic, but then again......... the statement you made about me is the first real truth I've seen you post. The rest of your post, well, it appears to me that truth and knowledge escapes you. In my opinion you have swallowed the church doctrine, i.e. propaganda, hook line and sinker. But hey, it doesn't effect me other than I hate to see it keep getting spread, especially when it is forced upon the World. Hebrew roots? I am a Hebrew so what the f&^%k are you condemning me for. In fact, where do you get that right or authority to do so. Truth is truth. Changing a Greek name in to fit your English version is one of the most misleading forms of propaganda going. When you do that it changes why that person or entity was placed in the text, forever hiding the true story and the truth of who that person was. ALL NAMES have a meaning or a reason a name was used whether you like it or not or whether it fits your story narrative or not. Jesus was not his name, never was nor never will be, just like James in the book of James was not his name. That is one of the biggest problems with your Bible teachings. That book has been written and rewritten more times than any other book on the planet. And each time it gets changed just a little bit, but I'll tell you what can't ever be changed and that is the story that the Stars wrote/write of which the Bible was originally taken from. Go ahead and change the Stars and Planets. I'll wait while you do. Here is truth if you can hear it. The Bible was written from the Stars and the Stars along with the planets tell the true story. They were given as a SIGN. Religion bastardized that story starting somewhere back in the "dark ages" and it is still going on. And since we are getting close to the season which the Stars declare, I find it so interesting that this Birth of Christ was not known by ONE SINGLE PERSON AT THAT TIME UNTIL THE 3 ASTROLOGERS CAME ALONG AND MADE THE ANNOUNCEMENT. The church propaganda writers changed the meaning of who those 3 were by calling them Magi or Wise Men, but what is funny is when you do the word search on Magi it will lead you to Astrologer, so yes, they were Wise Men. How did these 3 know? It is written in the Stars. I'll bet you can't read the Stars can you. Who else was an Astrologer in scriptures? In fact he was known as the greatest Astrologer. Daniel. Look it up. But to be truthful and above board, those figures back in that time could all read the Stars. Joseph, Abraham, Moses, David, ect. ect. ect.
I keep asking myself why I even care what you or this thread says. Normally I don't participate much in these, but for some reason I am. I may need to ask myself why.
Happy Camper, you are always asking people questions and demanding answers in hopes of tripping them up on some religious teaching, so let me ask you some questions. What do you know about numerology? What do you know about Astrology? What do you know about Hebrew or Greek mythology? Roman mythology? What about Roman law? If you haven't study much of any of those subjects then what you know about scripture is nothing and as your Jesus said in John 8: 43-44 you have declared who you are as far as your thinking goes. It appears to me that you have a lot of studying to do and need to do less accusations. I do not claim to be anything other than someone who wants to know the real truth of God. Your teachings has Jesus doing all kinds of things right down to, just call on the name of Jesus and he'll take care of it for you, completely glazing over what he said concerning what he could do. John 8:28 ......"and that I do nothing of myself"...........which literally meant that he could do nothing any more than you or I can. You have God going to start a Nuclear War and destroy His creation, you have Him condemning people to burn in Hell forever.......just sizzling away and probably getting turned over by some little demons in red suits, and then you say God so loved the World and God is love! WTF!!!! I could go on and on with this stuff. There is a "way", pun intended that at the place you are at you can go to, but you can if you change your thinking (repent) and follow the "Way" i.e. Yehoshua. But until that happens you have "missed the mark" (sin) and are setting yourself up to be recycled. What was the advise given? Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.
Rev 2:9 9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
Rev 3:9 9 I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars—I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you.
Christians should Celebrate the Resurrection of Jesus.
There's no Christianity without the resurrection of Jesus.
Without His resurrection, there’s no acquittal for us sinners, no pardon, and no forgiveness from God; and no reconciliation, and no relationship with God.
I posted a simple little 5 minute or so video on the current holiday and a couple people calling themselves christians and a Jew are up in arms. Wow! It never ceases to amaze me how a few folks condone the evil and condemn the good. If you don't like the short video, then go dress up like a wizard and play Harry Potty mouth. Go get your freebies of sugary treats and quit trolling the believers.
I thought sugar was addictive. I see that hatred of basic Christianity is even moreso.
I don't argue with that. "I" changed to "J". Languages evolve, but the Savior didn't. No worries.
I noticed that there are more English speakers who insist that one of the Hebrew names should replace our English. Some go so far as to demand that Christ be rejected. I don't know what k22 believes, so not making any accusations. I'm running into a growing religion that is misleading people to change everything in our English translation into Hebrew. I'm not claiming that k22 believes this, but I've known a handful who have been swept up with the pseudo-spiritual Hebrew roots movement. It goes by other names too. The Name our Savior was given has various spellings based on language differences. The New Testament is a Greek Book and not Hebrew as some are claiming these days. Hopefully, the present company hasn't been led astray by fundamentally false doctrine.
I posted a simple little 5 minute or so video on the current holiday and a couple people calling themselves christians and a Jew are up in arms. Wow! It never ceases to amaze me how a few folks condone the evil and condemn the good. If you don't like the short video, then go dress up like a wizard and play Harry Potty mouth. Go get your freebies of sugary treats and quit trolling the believers.
I thought sugar was addictive. I see that hatred of basic Christianity is even moreso.
You make mockery of the Story.
Since it ALL dwells within you I'm assuming ya'll have resurrected Christ within yourself, because that is what was being taught. The BS the church has being teaching for 500 yrs. or more is right out of the play book of Satan.
I think you claimed that Thomas Jefferson had no idea of what the Bible and your Jesus character taught. Well you better check your History again and not that false stuff taught in schools. This nation was not nor ever founded on Christianity. The fact of the matter is that most if not all of the Founding Fathers along with those who escaped the Christian Church in England had an enormous dislike for Christianity. They knew it was a false religion. I have to laugh at some of the misleading going on over History and the Colonies. So the Pilgrims left England, Scotland, Ireland, and Wales to escape religious prosecution. What do you think happened? They weren't good little Baptist? They were escaping Christianity. Read the writings, the Journals, and the letters of those people or to make it easier read the letters, the Journals, and the writings of the Founding Fathers, they had a clue.
I posted a simple little 5 minute or so video on the current holiday and a couple people calling themselves christians and a Jew are up in arms. Wow! It never ceases to amaze me how a few folks condone the evil and condemn the good. If you don't like the short video, then go dress up like a wizard and play Harry Potty mouth. Go get your freebies of sugary treats and quit trolling the believers.
I thought sugar was addictive. I see that hatred of basic Christianity is even moreso.
You make mockery of the Story.
Since it ALL dwells within you I'm assuming ya'll have resurrected Christ within yourself, because that is what was being taught. The BS the church has being teaching for 500 yrs. or more is right out of the play book of Satan.
I think you claimed that Thomas Jefferson had no idea of what the Bible and your Jesus character taught. Well you better check your History again and not that false stuff taught in schools. This nation was not nor ever founded on Christianity. The fact of the matter is that most if not all of the Founding Fathers along with those who escaped the Christian Church in England had an enormous dislike for Christianity. They knew it was a false religion. I have to laugh at some of the misleading going on over History and the Colonies. So the Pilgrims left England, Scotland, Ireland, and Wales to escape religious prosecution. What do you think happened? They weren't good little Baptist? They were escaping Christianity. Read the writings, the Journals, and the letters of those people or to make it easier read the letters, the Journals, and the writings of the Founding Fathers, they had a clue.
I thought God wanted His people to have freedom and was pretty sure He blessed this nation with freedom. After Columbus's "discovery" didnt Queen Idabella dedicate her new world to God?
It never ceases to amaze me how a few folks condone the evil and condemn the good. .
It never ceases to amaze me the degree to which you judge your fellow man.
What does the Bible say about that?
I don't live your life or care about your little unholy day. I hope you will realize your self righteousness works are worthless with God. I hope you realize that He is more impressed with His Son's Sacrifice than you have been before it's too late. I'm not the one you have a gripe with, it's God . Take it up with Him if you don't like what He says.
Isaiah was told by God to write this ....
"Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness!..."
Romans 12
"Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good."
Why wouldn't they? The question is about as stupid as should Christians play D&D?
Martin Luther posted his 95 theses on 10/31/1517. Today was Reformation Sunday. I have an ancestor that studied with Luther and was considered the "Danish" Martin Luther. So the day has meaning for me, just for different reasons.
Why wouldn't they? The question is about as stupid as should Christians play D&D?
Martin Luther posted his 95 theses on 10/31/1517. Today was Reformation Sunday. I have an ancestor that studied with Luther and was considered the "Danish" Martin Luther. So the day has meaning for me, just for different reasons.
Interesting.... Was he a major missionary in that part of Europe?
So Jesus shows up on earth and He launches something brand new; a brand new kind of relationship with God, a brand new covenant, and a brand new movement; He launches the church. And then He died, and when He died it was like “game over.” And then He rose from the dead and punctuated everything He taught and everything He claimed to be. And then He freed His movement from the Mosaic Law, and then He left.
And basically His first century followers were left with a resurrection religion; not a lot to go on…they were fired up and excited because they saw someone die and then later on they had breakfast with Him. Not a common occurrence; but they were absolutely convinced.
But they were left with an assortment of parables and teachings and some commands; and there were some miracles that He’d done. But that’s pretty much what these early followers of Jesus had to go on. And Paul, who wrote about half of the New Testament, he didn’t start writing for about 20 or 25 years; and even the things that he wrote weren’t widely circulated for about 5 or 10 years afterwards.
So for the first 50 or so years of the church, all they really had were the teachings of Jesus based on eyewitness accounts of those who heard Him teach, who’d began to write these things down and circulate them. What would it be like to be a Jesus follower like those early first century Jesus followers if all we had were what Jesus taught as it related to how we’re to live our lives…?
So Jesus shows up on earth and He launches something brand new; a brand new kind of relationship with God, a brand new covenant, and a brand new movement; He launches the church. And then He died, and when He died it was like “game over.” And then He rose from the dead and punctuated everything He taught and everything He claimed to be. And then He freed His movement from the Mosaic Law, and then He left.
And basically His first century followers were left with a resurrection religion; not a lot to go on…they were fired up and excited because they saw someone die and then later on they had breakfast with Him. Not a common occurrence; but they were absolutely convinced.
But they were left with an assortment of parables and teachings and some commands; and there were some miracles that He’d done. But that’s pretty much what these early followers of Jesus had to go on. And Paul, who wrote about half of the New Testament, he didn’t start writing for about 20 or 25 years; and even the things that he wrote weren’t widely circulated for about 5 or 10 years afterwards.
So for the first 50 or so years of the church, all they really had were the teachings of Jesus based on eyewitness accounts of those who heard Him teach, who’d began to write these things down and circulate them. What would it be like to be a Jesus follower like those early first century Jesus followers if all we had were what Jesus taught as it related to how we’re to live our lives…?
No they didn't. They had the Stars...............................look up.
It never ceases to amaze me how a few folks condone the evil and condemn the good. .
It never ceases to amaze me the degree to which you judge your fellow man.
What does the Bible say about that?
I don't live your life or care about your little unholy day. I hope you will realize your self righteousness works are worthless with God. I hope you realize that He is more impressed with His Son's Sacrifice than you have been before it's too late. I'm not the one you have a gripe with, it's God . Take it up with Him if you don't like what He says.
Isaiah was told by God to write this ....
"Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness!..."
Romans 12
"Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good."
Today is the day of salvation. VVVVVVVVVV
You wouldn't know if his works are good or not. It is very apparent you have NO knowledge of God....................NONE!
So Jesus shows up on earth and He launches something brand new; a brand new kind of relationship with God, a brand new covenant, and a brand new movement; He launches the church. And then He died, and when He died it was like “game over.” And then He rose from the dead and punctuated everything He taught and everything He claimed to be. And then He freed His movement from the Mosaic Law, and then He left.
And basically His first century followers were left with a resurrection religion; not a lot to go on…they were fired up and excited because they saw someone die and then later on they had breakfast with Him. Not a common occurrence; but they were absolutely convinced.
But they were left with an assortment of parables and teachings and some commands; and there were some miracles that He’d done. But that’s pretty much what these early followers of Jesus had to go on. And Paul, who wrote about half of the New Testament, he didn’t start writing for about 20 or 25 years; and even the things that he wrote weren’t widely circulated for about 5 or 10 years afterwards.
So for the first 50 or so years of the church, all they really had were the teachings of Jesus based on eyewitness accounts of those who heard Him teach, who’d began to write these things down and circulate them. What would it be like to be a Jesus follower like those early first century Jesus followers if all we had were what Jesus taught as it related to how we’re to live our lives…?
Did they record what Jesus said? Where would one find His teachings?
Nope. Understanding the value of actively listening to other’s in the discussion, and tolerating opposing viewpoints, and being open-minded ~ does not equate to agreeing with what is said.
It never ceases to amaze me how a few folks condone the evil and condemn the good. .
It never ceases to amaze me the degree to which you judge your fellow man.
What does the Bible say about that?
I don't live your life or care about your little unholy day. I hope you will realize your self righteousness works are worthless with God. I hope you realize that He is more impressed with His Son's Sacrifice than you have been before it's too late. I'm not the one you have a gripe with, it's God . Take it up with Him if you don't like what He says.
Isaiah was told by God to write this ....
"Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness!..."
Romans 12
"Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good."
Today is the day of salvation. VVVVVVVVVV
You wouldn't know if his works are good or not. It is very apparent you have NO knowledge of God....................NONE!
I'm sure that we all have a pile of dirty diapers to toss onto the pile. Throw some more on it. Do those good self righteous deeds purify that pile?
Your statement is not correct. "As it is written, there is none righteous, no not one."
"But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags..."
"It's not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us...". ( Context here is addressing only those saved by rejection of their own good works of adult depends.)
I don't know which ones you are pointing to, but the video and Bible I posted is neither of what you described. You don't have to agree, but please don't refer to God's Word in those terms IF you were.
I don't know which ones you are pointing to, but the video and Bible I posted is neither of what you described. You don't have to agree, but please don't refer to God's Word in those terms IF you were.
Okay, we need to wrap this up with a concise definitive answer to the OP. Time is of the essence!
Halloween... Jesus doesn't care...
Kent
Jesus may not, but the Baptists sure do.
You bet they do! Trunk or treat is just now fishing at the Baptist church here. Hundreds of kids got candy. Their folks got snacks and a hot drink. One of the biggest community outreach deals of the year. Sorry you couldn’t make it. Best wishes anyway.
First church I remember as a toddler was a little white Baptist church, Mom was baptist but dad was mormon. Dad didn't cotton to the mormon beliefs, said he went for the dances. At 7 we moved far enough away they chose a new church, nondenominational christian church. Dad moved up the ladder to elder and mom who was a kindergarten teacher ran the sunday school... but I still remember that small baptist church fondly.
First church I remember as a toddler was a little white Baptist church, Mom was baptist but dad was mormon. Dad didn't cotton to the mormon beliefs, said he went for the dances. At 7 we moved far enough away they chose a new church, nondenominational christian church. Dad moved up the ladder to elder and mom who was a kindergarten teacher ran the sunday school... but I still remember that small baptist church fondly.
I don't know which ones you are pointing to, but the video and Bible I posted is neither of what you described. You don't have to agree, but please don't refer to God's Word in those terms IF you were.
If you’re talking to me you’re way off base.
Good. I was hoping that . I don't know you and There was no way to know from your comment.
Christians should Celebrate the Resurrection of Jesus.
We already do. Don't need preachy types like you and Crappy Hamper beating on everybody to remind us.
Now go boil a potato or somethin'.
You are only reminded by engaging in this thread, dirt. If you don't like it, adios amigo. Wabigoon has more honor in the things he's said here than the half dozen of those who troll this and most other Christian threads.
I posted a simple little 5 minute or so video on the current holiday and a couple people calling themselves christians and a Jew are up in arms. Wow! It never ceases to amaze me how a few folks condone the evil and condemn the good. If you don't like the short video, then go dress up like a wizard and play Harry Potty mouth. Go get your freebies of sugary treats and quit trolling the believers.
I thought sugar was addictive. I see that hatred of basic Christianity is even moreso.
You make mockery of the Story.
Since it ALL dwells within you I'm assuming ya'll have resurrected Christ within yourself, because that is what was being taught. The BS the church has being teaching for 500 yrs. or more is right out of the play book of Satan.
I think you claimed that Thomas Jefferson had no idea of what the Bible and your Jesus character taught. Well you better check your History again and not that false stuff taught in schools. This nation was not nor ever founded on Christianity. The fact of the matter is that most if not all of the Founding Fathers along with those who escaped the Christian Church in England had an enormous dislike for Christianity. They knew it was a false religion. I have to laugh at some of the misleading going on over History and the Colonies. So the Pilgrims left England, Scotland, Ireland, and Wales to escape religious prosecution. What do you think happened? They weren't good little Baptist? They were escaping Christianity. Read the writings, the Journals, and the letters of those people or to make it easier read the letters, the Journals, and the writings of the Founding Fathers, they had a clue.
I thought God wanted His people to have freedom and was pretty sure He blessed this nation with freedom. After Columbus's "discovery" didnt Queen Idabella dedicate her new world to God?
Yes, you are right. People came here from Europe to have religious freedom. They were not any more perfect than people today, however the occult was not permitted as a lot of sins were crimes up until recently. We have our freedoms because of Someone these guys aught to know by now. The Lord provided each and every Liberty.
Yes, you are right. People came here from Europe to have religious freedom. They were not any more perfect than people today, however we have our freedoms because of Someone these guys aught to know by now. The Lord provided each and every Liberty.
They sure weren't perfect. They hadn't been here very long when they started killing folks for being witches. In America and being done by white people who were Christian no less.
Yep. They left Europe and came here to escape religious persecution, but they sure didn’t believe in practicing religious tolerance themselves. When other colonists arrived with differing beliefs, they were persecuted by these same people.
Christians should Celebrate the Resurrection of Jesus.
We already do. Don't need preachy types like you and Crappy Hamper beating on everybody to remind us.
Now go boil a potato or somethin'.
You are only reminded by engaging in this thread, dirt. If you don't like it, adios amigo. Wabigoon has more honor in the things he's said here than the half dozen of those who troll this and most other Christian threads.
Just stop your phony pulpit thumping.
It's not only tiring, it's boring.
Go buy yourself a church and you can carry on with all your preachy gack there.
Christians should Celebrate the Resurrection of Jesus.
We already do. Don't need preachy types like you and Crappy Hamper beating on everybody to remind us.
Now go boil a potato or somethin'.
You are only reminded by engaging in this thread, dirt. If you don't like it, adios amigo. Wabigoon has more honor in the things he's said here than the half dozen of those who troll this and most other Christian threads.
Just stop your phony pulpit thumping.
It's not only tiring, it's boring.
Go buy yourself a church and you can carry on with all your preachy gack there.
Why do you annoy yourself by constantly showing up on this thread?
I don't know about you, but I don't even click on 90% of the threads.
Yes, you are right. People came here from Europe to have religious freedom. They were not any more perfect than people today, however we have our freedoms because of Someone these guys aught to know by now. The Lord provided each and every Liberty.
They sure weren't perfect. They hadn't been here very long when they started killing folks for being witches. In America and being done by white people who were Christian no less.
I am not a Puritan, nor agree with all of their doctrines and practices. They weren't the only settlers either. The Lord provided a land where more preachers have been sent out to the world to spread the gospel than any preserved records of any other time. Granted, the Dark ages were dark because many books were burned, including Bibles and living witnesses of that gospel.
Why wouldn't they? The question is about as stupid as should Christians play D&D?
Martin Luther posted his 95 theses on 10/31/1517. Today was Reformation Sunday. I have an ancestor that studied with Luther and was considered the "Danish" Martin Luther. So the day has meaning for me, just for different reasons.
Interesting.... Was he a major missionary in that part of Europe?
Yes, you are right. People came here from Europe to have religious freedom. They were not any more perfect than people today, however we have our freedoms because of Someone these guys aught to know by now. The Lord provided each and every Liberty.
They sure weren't perfect. They hadn't been here very long when they started killing folks for being witches. In America and being done by white people who were Christian no less.
I am not a Puritan, nor agree with all of their doctrines and practices. They weren't the only settlers either. The Lord provided a land where more preachers have been sent out to the world to spread the gospel than any preserved records of any other time. Granted, the Dark ages were dark because many books were burned, including Bibles and living witnesses of that gospel.
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And you preachers have preached a false gospel/teaching and have led the people astray. Here's a scripture question for you. Who will set you free?
Yes, you are right. People came here from Europe to have religious freedom. They were not any more perfect than people today, however we have our freedoms because of Someone these guys aught to know by now. The Lord provided each and every Liberty.
They sure weren't perfect. They hadn't been here very long when they started killing folks for being witches. In America and being done by white people who were Christian no less.
I am not a Puritan, nor agree with all of their doctrines and practices. They weren't the only settlers either. The Lord provided a land where more preachers have been sent out to the world to spread the gospel than any preserved records of any other time. Granted, the Dark ages were dark because many books were burned, including Bibles and living witnesses of that gospel.
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Not many books around in the dark ages you ignorant phuque. The printing press wasn't invented until 1442. The hand printed and illuminated texts were guarded like gold. You are as phony as kim's tits.
The Dark ages were called the "Dark" Ages BECAUSE libraries were burned and little is left from that history. The Muslims and Catholics burned books. The Roman Catholic hierarchy wanted the priesthood to keep the people under domination of Rome. Dissent was not tolerated. The churches were not provided the Bible in their own language in any large numbers until King James funded it. The invention of the printing press was NOT the invention of libraries and Bibles. There were Scribes long before the New Testament.
You are very highly trained at one skill...... Arrogantly making false accusations.
The Dark ages were called the "Dark" Ages BECAUSE libraries were burned and little is left from that history. The Muslims and Catholics burned books. The Roman Catholic hierarchy wanted the priesthood to keep the people under domination of Rome. Dissent was not tolerated. The churches were not provided the Bible in their own language in any large numbers until King James funded it. The invention of the printing press was NOT the invention of libraries and Bibles. There were Scribes long before the New Testament.
You are very highly trained at one skill...... Arrogantly making false accusations.
Your interpretation of history is as twisted as your claim to know 'The Word". 14 posts/day and none are smart and few are honest. Good work.
Yep. They left Europe and came here to escape religious persecution, but they sure didn’t believe in practicing religious tolerance themselves. When other colonists arrived with differing beliefs, they were persecuted by these same people.
Yep, they were real tolerant folks in the olden days:
The Dark ages were called the "Dark" Ages BECAUSE libraries were burned and little is left from that history. The Muslims and Catholics burned books. The Roman Catholic hierarchy wanted the priesthood to keep the people under domination of Rome. Dissent was not tolerated. The churches were not provided the Bible in their own language in any large numbers until King James funded it. The invention of the printing press was NOT the invention of libraries and Bibles. There were Scribes long before the New Testament.
You are very highly trained at one skill...... Arrogantly making false accusations.
That is NOT true. It was the church that burned the original writings of the Greeks, which left them, the religious pharisee and sadducee as the sole authority on what was written. They then turned those stories into some kind of literal religious teaching instead of its original Spiritual teaching. And that teaching is the BS you keep yaking. You haven't got a clue what you are talking about scripturally.
The Dark ages were called the "Dark" Ages BECAUSE libraries were burned and little is left from that history. The Muslims and Catholics burned books. The Roman Catholic hierarchy wanted the priesthood to keep the people under domination of Rome. Dissent was not tolerated. The churches were not provided the Bible in their own language in any large numbers until King James funded it. The invention of the printing press was NOT the invention of libraries and Bibles. There were Scribes long before the New Testament.
You are very highly trained at one skill...... Arrogantly making false accusations.
Laughing. Your grasp of history is on par with your regard for the truth.
The Dark ages were called the "Dark" Ages BECAUSE libraries were burned and little is left from that history. The Muslims and Catholics burned books. The Roman Catholic hierarchy wanted the priesthood to keep the people under domination of Rome. Dissent was not tolerated. The churches were not provided the Bible in their own language in any large numbers until King James funded it. The invention of the printing press was NOT the invention of libraries and Bibles. There were Scribes long before the New Testament.
You are very highly trained at one skill...... Arrogantly making false accusations.
Laughing. Your grasp of history is on par with your regard for the truth.
A Southern Baptist preacher spent his life searching for as many ancient books on christian history as he could find prior to the Reformation. Your upbringing would not like what he learned.
Martin Luther solidified the common German language by publishing through his writings and the Bible which was printed in that language. He is considered to be one of the most read theologians not only because of his influence since the reformation but also because of his prolific writing and the prolific printing of his articles and books.
Who is the SBC preacher that you source? I’d like to googlefu his findings.
Where do you get off calling people reprobates and by what authority do you do so?
Where do YOU get off telling me who I communicate with and who I gave up on???
Why don't you so much as look up the word Jack? It's not as if I haven't posted more than enough to define it for you in little spoonfuls and in details.
As usual, don't question my authority or belief, and heaven forbid I answer a question direct. My guess is IZH27 is more of an authority of any religious subject you care to discuss and it is very apparent he has the ability to think outside the box. I'm not one to put people on ignore, but I certainly can ignore you which would best.
The bottom line is that GOD, not you, defines this because ONLY God knows what is in the heart of a man.
YOU Are NOT God though you do read as having a God Complex. YOU don’t know the first thing about the hearts of the people that you condemn.
You blatantly misrepresent God, the church and the Christian faith with your bigoted hateful judgements. You judge men on here who are Christians. You condemn them because of your misguided interpretation of scripture and what comes off as an abusive and antagonistic attitude toward anything that challenges you and your thoughts in any way.
Again, by what authority do you condemn and define the hearts of men? By what authority do you continue to practice such Godlessness as though you have been given this ability? Do you have no recollection of the passage that speaks of calling a brother a fool?
The bottom line is that GOD, not you, defines this because ONLY God knows what is in the heart of a man.
YOU Are NOT God though you do read as having a God Complex. YOU don’t know the first thing about the hearts of the people that you condemn.
You blatantly misrepresent God, the church and the Christian faith with your bigoted hateful judgements. You judge men on here who are Christians. You condemn them because of your misguided interpretation of scripture and what comes off as an abusive and antagonistic attitude toward anything that challenges you and your thoughts in any way.
Again, by what authority do you condemn and define the hearts of men? By what authority do you continue to practice such Godlessness as though you have been given this ability? Do you have no recollection of the passage that speaks of calling a brother a fool?
The bottom line is that GOD, not you, defines this because ONLY God knows what is in the heart of a man.
YOU Are NOT God though you do read as having a God Complex. YOU don’t know the first thing about the hearts of the people that you condemn.
You blatantly misrepresent God, the church and the Christian faith with your bigoted hateful judgements. You judge men on here who are Christians. You condemn them because of your misguided interpretation of scripture and what comes off as an abusive and antagonistic attitude toward anything that challenges you and your thoughts in any way.
Again, by what authority do you condemn and define the hearts of men? By what authority do you continue to practice such Godlessness as though you have been given this ability? Do you have no recollection of the passage that speaks of calling a brother a fool?
You are NOT my brother. You are a false prophet.
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him."
You aren't going to waste my time any more than that Reprobate. I gave the answer a dozen times. I've got work to do.
The bottom line is that GOD, not you, defines this because ONLY God knows what is in the heart of a man.
YOU Are NOT God though you do read as having a God Complex. YOU don’t know the first thing about the hearts of the people that you condemn.
You blatantly misrepresent God, the church and the Christian faith with your bigoted hateful judgements. You judge men on here who are Christians. You condemn them because of your misguided interpretation of scripture and what comes off as an abusive and antagonistic attitude toward anything that challenges you and your thoughts in any way.
Again, by what authority do you condemn and define the hearts of men? By what authority do you continue to practice such Godlessness as though you have been given this ability? Do you have no recollection of the passage that speaks of calling a brother a fool?
You are NOT my brother. You are a false prophet.
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him."
You aren't going to waste my time any more than that Reprobate. I gave the answer a dozen times. I've got work to do.
Ah, the Chief Priest, probably the same one that Judas went to after taking the 30 pieces of silver. And soon the Elders will join with him. Talk about Paganism, here it is in all its glory. This is true Paganism.
Where do you get off calling people reprobates and by what authority do you do so?
Where do YOU get off telling me who I communicate with and who I gave up on???
Why don't you so much as look up the word Jack? It's not as if I haven't posted more than enough to define it for you in little spoonfuls and in details.
I just found this post. I was looking up "non-answer" in the dictionary, and there it was.
Isaiah 29:13 – “The Lord says: These people come near to me with their mouth and honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. Their worship of me is made up only of rules taught by men.”
Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
To me, reconciliation is an operative word in the Christian faith. It’s about restoration of a relationship. The story of salvation…the story of redemption…is a story of reconciliation. God reconciled us humans to Himself.
He wasn’t content to simply forgive us. Forgiveness is only half of the equation. You can forgive someone, and never make any attempt to reconcile with them. Forgiveness is the win, but reconciliation is the win too. Reconciliation is the win in our relationship with God, and reconciliation is the win in our relationships with each other.
God wasn’t content to simply forgive us; His forgiveness was a means to an end. He forgave us to remove an obstacle to relationship with Him…He forgave us to remove an obstacle to reconciliation with Him. That obstacle is sin.
But the end…the win…is reconciliation. A re-assembled relationship with God.
Whomever you are, the odds are that you are a sock puppet. You’ve spent a lot of energy on building up your persona. Kudos for that.
It took throwing your crap up against the wall several times but even a Fundamentalist Baptist would have more knowledge and at least in a limited way try to make some sense rather than going “Bob Jones Chuck Norris” at every turn.
Which member built this machine. Please step forward and be recognized for your creativity.