I switched from 150g Noslers to 150g Swift A-Frames in my 270 10 years ago. Both are great killers, but the Swift A-Frames tend to penetrate and exit while expending most of their energy in the animal. I've used mine on lots of elk, deer and 7 black bears, never lost one or had one run far. I get 3000 fps out of my Rem 700 BDL with a 22" barrel. I use Rem 9 1/2 M primers and lots of H4831. As always start low and work your way up, each rifle is differnt.

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Chuck


Regards,

Chuck

"There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit"

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