Thank you very much! I'll have to try the VV powder and see where that takes me. I'm using F210 primers what did you use. And I tell you what, if I can't get them to shoot or decide to stick with the TSXs, I'll PM you and send you the rest of the NFs I have left. Thanks again. jorge

A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”