They are fantastic slings, and with the frogs you can set them up perfect. They are just so dog dam heavy and hard for me to 'break in' the oder I get the more I go the comfort route, As fat as military I love the old cotton duck web slings, all I own are a green OD color, I think they fit the Garand as well as some were done for the 30 cal carbine. I used to get them at the Army Navy store for 10 bucks but my last trip they said they were out and could get no more. I used to go up to Marine Corp base in Albany Ga for surplus auctions and had a chance to buy a bin of probably 400 of them for next to nothing ! This is a marine rebuild base and at one time they rebuilt all the Mod 70 Targets that were being used in Vietnam there! What I would not give for a mod 70 with the air gauged Douglas barrel they had just reworked along with the 8X Unertl !!!!! I would belly crawl the 40 mi back home from the base!!!! we live and learn! very best WinPoor