And best quote of the thread goes to.... "I told you before, I see how it kills and work backwards. Many times it defies logic and fact." Congratulations!
Deer are not and will not ever be the test of a woods carbine. Guys are using 22 cal varmint bullets, for hell's sakes, and getting dramatic drt. If you want explosive kills on deer that surpass anything you get with a 30-30, load them up warm with 170-180gr 357 bullets and watch the tons of shiit drop.
This isn't rocket science, but it is close: ballistics science, and it is a science. There will never be world in this universe where a larger cal and higher speed kills less effectively, given like construction and that both exit.
