Originally Posted by gitem_12
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by GunGeek

First we determine whether or not someone acted in a manner consistent with policies and training. Then if they didn't there may be a crime.


The GJ determines whether there is PC to believe that a crime has been committed.

Policy and training are civil issues, not criminal.


And as posted earlier. The chokehold, while not "approved in policy" is not illegal atleast in NY

That same dept policy may not have allowed them to use the taser Kevin.

I just watched the video and i didn't see a "choke hold" persay to me it looked like he was attempting to get him on the ground. He didn't start saying he couldn't breathe until he was bent at the waist while on his side. At that point the cop didn't even have his arm around his neck


The actual Autopsy report states the cause of death as compressions to his chest, and prone positioning while being restrained.

The guy had Hypertensive heart disease. He was a walking dead man



The cops HAD to subdue him and they certainly didn't know of his asthma.

Last edited by djs; 12/03/14.