Originally Posted by ingwe
I hate to repeat myself, but for you I will.

You need to spend some time on the street.







As hard as you may find it to believe, besides assault, theft, and all other forms of malfeasance, sometimes these people lie shocked ...even under duress.


I understand what you are saying.

No, I have no desire to spend some time on the street.

However, for those that do, I believe there is an expectation that they prioritize the safety and well being of the public at large, even those they are subduing, especially in the context of a petty crime being committed and a non-violent resist to arrest.

Had this guy had a gun or knife and was waving it around like a lunatic, OK, the knee to neck stays and he could be speaking in tongues for all I care - the expectation is he is going down and likely hard - a petty criminal selling cigarettes on the street in a non violent arrest? I dunno.

I guess it boils down to - is everyone you encounter as a cop a threat? Did Garner die because he was perceived as a threat? Did his actions merit his pleas to be ignored?


Last edited by KFWA; 12/04/14.

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