Originally Posted by rost495
I still don't get the 2000 FPS thing even. I"d hunt with a 22LR if it was legal. Deer are just not that hard to kill. Obviously not at 300 yards but you get the point.

Assuming DLA can even HIT a deer at 300 I'm gonna say he has really really really poor recovery skills if it doesn't fall on the spot.

And too many folks rely on deer dropping at the shot... if I were them, I'd learn to track as best I could. Sooner or later even with the 50 loudenboomerDLA express magnum you are going to have a deer run. They all run if you miss. If you hit they run less....


Jeff,

The 2000 fps things comes from an article posted in the pistol thread discussing why rifles do so much more damage than pistols. The articles discusses how tissue cannot resist the hydrostatic shock created by impact velocities greater than about 2k fps. Below 2k fps the "temporary" wound cavity remains temporary, where above 2k, since it can't resist the tearing the temporary wound cavity stays permanent. That's the source of DLA's fixation on the 2k fps.


Of course, in the real world, that's just one variable. As mentioned here before, there are bullets specifically made for subsonic hunting that expand very well, and leave big holes, regardless of velocity. The other side of the "above 2k" effect is called bloodshot meat. This effect is greatly reduced below 2k. It's why some old timer who like to "eat up to the bullet hole" like killing with rifles like the 30-30, the 30-40 craig, or even the old 45-70. One old boy in our shooting club like killing things with cast lead bullets out of his 38-55, including a large bull buffalo. Some of those black powder cartridge shooters are pretty amazing. Their standard course of fire goes out to 500 yards. Just don't tell DLA, he doesn't think you can shoot that far with black powder.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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