Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Originally Posted by koshkin
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Originally Posted by koshkin
Burris XTR III scopes are made in the US
Burris XTR II scopes are made in the Phillipines
Burris Fullfield II scopes are made in the Phillipines
Burris Eliminator scopes are made in the Phillipines
Burris Fullfield IV scopes are made in China
Burris RT-5, RT-8 and Signature scopes are made in China.

I do not think Burris hiding the country of origin at all, so you can select based on your preferences.

It is not practical to build lower priced optics in the US, so noone does it. Burris actually builds a fair amount of stuff for the Steiner brand in the US. Somewhat paradoxically, I think there more Steiner branded products built in the US than Burris branded products.

ILya


If you go to the Burris website, select Fullfield IV for example, where's COO? Or their 2020 catalog highlighting the new China made muttherfuukers? Only reference to COO is the US Made XTRIII. No COO for their praised XTR Sig rings from Wuhan. They list FFII like its a great tradition then move right into FFIV, as if it is just more of a good thing.

I call bullchit on your statement above, Burris hides the COO of their products, plain and simple.

And so do their retailers.

It'd piss me off Royally to have bought a FFIV and see the MOC! Oh, fuuck I'd been pissed!

As others have said, I too was moving more towards Burris, however, this move to Communist China for 2020 new products is a deal breaker. Fuuck them if they continue the trend.


If you look at the scope, it says "Made in China". Engraved right on it.

I do not think it gets clearer than that.

I have seen a few manufacturers in the past make everything in China, ship the eyepiece and the rest of the scope to Germany. Attach them there and proudly say "Assembled in Germany".

That was more than a little misleading.

What Burris does is pretty normal.

I do not think they have an obligation to spell out on the website where everything is made. I do not think Fullfield II is listed as made in Phillipines either. I would need to look more carefully perhaps, but other than saying XTR III is US made, I do not think anything is listed with a country of origin. Even their Signature HD spotting scope's Japanese manufacturing is not listed.

ILya

Look at the scope, yah, ok, down at feed store? LOL

Bullchit, Burris introduced a new 2020 line, hyped it up bigly in their catalog, the retailers hype it bigly, and it all sounds good, a Fullfield IV, just like my Fullfield IIs etc, but, get this it's made in the Country trying to kill us. Holly fuuck! Burris fuucked the pooch on this one.


There are lots of folks that care where stuff at all price points originates, exactly why the company and retailers are not divulging the information, because they wouldn't sell as many. Crooked scheming sons a bitches.


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I am not arguing whether the screwed the pooch or not.

The point I am trying to make, that they are not lying to anyone or being deceitful. They are not scheming.

If they were scheming, they would find a way to conceal the country of origin.

They introduced the product line at SHOT. I walked over and asked them where it is made. They said China. Eveyrone reporting from SHOT said it was from China.

What do you want them to do? Give you a complete run down on where everything is made and broadcast it on nightly news in case someone missed it the day before?

You clearly care where it is made, so you found out. A ton of people don't, so it does not effect their purchasing decision.

When Leupold/Redfield introduced a scope made in China, did they advertise the country of origin? not at all.

When Zeiss made the turd aka Terra, did the advertise the country of origin? not at all (and they claimed that is Japan when pushed, and I seriously doubt it is).

I've never seen Burris or Vortex or a bunch of other companies try to hide anything like that. Ask them where it is made and they tell you. Where is the scheming?

Are you all excited that the hyped their new product? Are they supposed to NOT hype a new product?

This is some sort of bizarro world.

ILya