Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Calvin
It’s not as simple as a black guy jogging down the road. It was a guy who illegally entered a house under construction looking for things to steal and the neighbors giving chase because someone who matches his description had broken in 4 times before. They have him on camera in the place.

Yep, and no one was shot because anyone "believed he would commit a crime in the future, nor because anyone believed he committed a crime." He was shot because he grabbed someone's shotgun.


It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone that some people are not willing to be held at gunpoint illegally.

You cannot make up your own set of facts. No one held anyone at gunpoint. That's not in evidence.


You define things your way. The rest of the world will use commonly understood definitions.

Let three armed men chase you with motor vehicles for five minutes screaming threats to kill you. Then one of them leaps from the vehicle with gun "at ready position" and tell us you would not feel you were in eminent threat of death.

We have read far too many of your posts about how you felt an eminent threat from far more mundane events.


People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.