Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by smokepole

But if you're agreeing that someone detaining you in that situation is a violation of your rights, then it would be a violation or Arbery's rights too, would you agree?

Objectively, it's not a violation of my rights (despite being innocent, and feeling wronged), because we have to make allowance for mistakes when folks are trying in good conscience to deal with crime, and not escalate all such situations to the point of death, since the police were on the way, at which point (assuming I'm innocent, a stretch in the case of Arbery) I can make my case to them, or a judge, or a jury.


If someone tries to illegally detain you for any reason, no matter how well-intentioned, it's a violation of your rights.

You just can't admit it, because you'd have to also admit that Arbery's rights were violated.



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