guys will shoot animals with a cartridge that expends most of it's lethality at about 200 yards, they shoot pie plate 3 shot groups at 50 paces a couple times a year then shoot an animal from at or under 100 yards, two, three shots before they hit it right, if not... a guide or buddy blasts it = proud "ethical hunters"

we shoot cartridges that have more lethality at 800 yards than yours at 100 yards, we shoot tiny little 5 shot groups at 200 yards you can cover with a dime and have fired thousands of rounds and practiced at ranges out to 1000+ yards in increments and have our data memorized, most if not all long range hunters are DIY in rough mountain country, no guides, no backup shooters, no meat packers, no feed plots or watering holes or fences
sounds like we do a lot more that's real huning

How many of you go hiking into the mountains solo ?Spend time setting up properly and "paying attention to the wind" that part is most important and could force you to move location multiple times, meaning more hiking/climbing etc, moving camp & gear, more days of glassing and selecting your game and waiting for the right moment for the shot, y'know ... real hunting stuff

unlike the slob hunters that jump out of a vehicle and open fire on an animal on the other side of the ditch or from a SXS or 4 Wheeler off a trail or edge of a swamp, nice & "ehical" tracking & getting in close = real hunting, lol !


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