Originally Posted by irfubar
After reading this train wreck of a thread , I feel compelled to express my opinion.

This forum is comprised of strong willed and opinionated individuals. The current politics has us all on edge and worried for the future of our country.

Emotions are running high.

J. Burns is one of these guys, and his view on War, Ukraine, Russia etc... run contrary too many here. And we have robust and rowdy debates involving these differences of opinion.... I don't see a problem with that.

But I do see a problem with transferring that vitriol to a thread involving a mans livelihood....

I believe small business is the back bone of this country.

Most small business are run by individuals with great dedication to provide a good product/service at a good price. They do so at great personal sacrifice at times.

Often they have placed their life savings at risk by investing in their own business... they do this for the American dream and we all benefit!

Most have no idea the difficulty of starting/ running a small business. And today it's harder than ever!

I believe they deserve the benefit of a doubt.. always... and we should cheer their success .... not tear them down.

I believe the free markets will weed out the bad ones.

As for prices of individual companies products, I also believe the market will determine that .... I don't see the value in a "Coach Bag" but the market does, as it should be!

I have casually followed J. Burns threads here over the years and pretty much enjoyed them. I envied that he chose to follow his dream and make a living in the hunting firearms industry. I have watched others take jabs at him and always thought it a bit unfair.

As for John's past business dealing, nobody but the individuals involved know the details and details matter! John expressing he sold Greybull Precision and signed a non completive agreement sounds right and legit to me.... again the benefit of a doubt

J. Burns using internet celebrities/ influencers is a tried and true marketing method and in this day and age works. So John is not doing anything out of the ordinary there.

I must admit at times I scratch my head in confusion of his strategy, at times. But not my call, so to speak.

As for Wyoming Arms, I went to his website and viewed his products and to me they look like quality and innovative products. Not all of them are my "cup of tea" and that's ok!!

One caught my eye and that was the mini suppressor, seems to fill a niche that nobody else has... good job.

It's easy to fall into a trap, spurred by differences of opinion and get carried away... I know I have made that mistake at times and consciously try to avoid that mistake going forward.

I put this out there in hopes it will open some eyes and help others to step back and think about what you are doing.

These are hard dangerous times and us tearing each other apart is not the way forward!

I think we should give all small business owners the benefit of a doubt.

Now about politics.... well John, we shall save that for another thread.... wink smile

Sorry but you're about 180* off the mark.

JohnnyGinBlossom is a liar and a fraud. It's not a simple difference of opinion regarding foreign policy.

He's a piece of schit.


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