Ed, I've been following this post and am very impressed with the research you have been doing. I bought a savage 212 two years ago and was very impressed with the gun itself and the speed and accuracy of both hornady ssts and the federal Barnes tipped expanders. That is until I've read whet you have been doing. With this gun in stock form do you have any recommendation of other shekels to try. Both are accurate at 200 yards but I I can get more speed I may be able to get some more distance. Thanks Ryan.