My Venezuelan carbine with short throat likes 40g of R#15, 140g Nosler ballistic tip, and cci 200,. 3x9 scope with some wind. I really don't know how hard I can push this FN mauser, even though it was made between wars. I have not even bedded it or free-floated the barrel, honed trigger. The gun was an auction find where it had been professionally drilled and tapped, bent bolt. This short little rifle is 1" at 100, 2" at 200, and 3" at 300,140g Nosler BT or Accubonds. This load kills hogs and deer well.