I got 60 Sellier and Bellott cases recently because I didn't want to hock one of my kids to get more Norma brass. The S&B brass looks Ok but is a good 2-3grains heavier than the Norma. I also found the normal 308 size shellholder was too small for the S&B stuff so had to get a no10 holder from Lee. I'm getting some 140gn Woodleigh protected points to use on hogs. Those bullets are well constructed and Woodleigh tell me they'll be fine for bigger deer as well. I also had to trim all those cases. The rifle is a Zastava that has been restocked, glass bedded and the action smoothed up. The barrels on these things are great, but the rest of Zastava's machining could use some improvement.