Originally Posted by tbear
I have no dog in the fight, but unfortunately there are some on the Fire that are real easy to criticize. They never broke a game law even if it involved checking a waterfowl field 2 miles away on private property that was baited & they arrived with a guide in the morning before dawn. Then there are those that have vast areas to hunt in the West, Canada, or Alaska so if you hunt different STFU. On the topic of Ray I suspect he has embellished a tale or two, perhaps even fabricated stories, & been guilty of not exploring every detail of a hunt he had for sale. I had a booking business many years ago & its a very difficult way to earn a buck. I assisted a friend in obtaining a hunt with Ray several years ago. When I checked The Hunting Report & SCI I was not able to find a single complaint. There are many diligent booking agents that for one reason or the other have had complaints filed about them. There does seem to be a pack that follows Ray around the net & despite never having hunted with him post everything negative possible. Most of us don't have the time to pursue personal vendettas.



Big difference between embellishing a bit, and advertising hunts using animals taken by other folks on ranches you don't have hunts on. Or advertising hunts using photos of a buck that had been poached.
I reckon if someone was making money by selling hunts using photos of a buckI took without anything to do with them(Ray), well I would be pretty pissed off. Yeah I would tend to follow that around some.

I don't know Ray, and I have never dealt with him. I can say though that if the things that Drummond and others have brought up are true, I can't repect the man. Ray has been challenged a number of times, and other than get all blustered up he has not offfered and explanation or evidence to the contrary.



I am curious about the "sheep hunter" thing as I have never heard of it.