Far short of Ray or even little 'ole me.That's the problem..Everyone thinks they know it all..I sure don't and rely on older hunters for advice on things I have not yet seen and I made my living working in the woods...

I learn every year I go out and certainly have not seen it all although I have alot of years doing it.

Jumping Ray is a High School thing,not an adult thing!!!!The truly tough,don't talk about it...

Jayco