When I first read all this crap, I thought it was just a matter of one outfitter (huntsonora) bashing another. This most recent event, along with Ray's lack of response is making me think otherwise. A good example of what I'm referring to would be with this fellow named John Burns, the owner of GreyBull Precision. Lots of guys jumped on him claiming he was over charging for a rifle system he offers and those same folks claimed they could build the same for less. John's response was reserved to say the least and offered anyone making such claims to put up or keep walking. That is just the opposite of what Ray is doing.