Originally Posted by gitem_12
Originally Posted by safariman
Originally Posted by gitem_12
Originally Posted by CrimsonTide
Understand your point completely.

And I agree.




I have to wonder how many guys that choose to pocket carry have ever tried to get that gun and effectively draw it from the pocket with there heart rate pimping, and someone "in their face".


Hmmm... I do not recall ever having my heart "pimping" wink grin

You are probably correct in the case of most folks, but for what it is worth (not much) I do practice my firearms draw and present to fire motions every day at least a little. When I am carrying my P3AT, which is rarely, and I am in an even slightly uncomfortable neighborhood or situation, I have my right hand in my right front pocket, and I already have a shooting grasp on the grip of the gun as I walk along, acting unconcerned but being situationally aware. You are 1000% correct that the little boogers can be hard to draw quickly without practice. I can have either my 1911 or my 380 ready to fire in well under one second from rest.



Ever tried getting that gun out of your pocket under stress, or being on the ground fighting. Or practice other than "range" conditions.

With your above approach, you're going to do one thing well..that's shoot yourself i. The leg.


During my draw and present drills, my finger remains alongside the triggerguard until the gun is well outside of my body area and facing whatever imaginary opponent I may be facing.

I did have to draw and fire my weapon once at a snarling, fast approaching Charpei/Pit bull cross dog at about 6 feet distance when I fired. I made a perfect center shot right where the neck meets the chest. Even the reporting officer made a comment on what a nice shot I had made and the obvious effectiveness of my 357 Magnum 125gr HP loading. The reporting etc. was but a formality as the shoot was so clearly and obviously a good one, well justified.

I don't know this for sure, but having spent quite a few years having to make quick kill shots on very close Elephant, Cape Buffalo and other dangerous game should, I would hope, be of some help in my keeping my wits about me in a different yet equally dangerous setting. I hope to never find out! I have also done a little bit of comeptitive handgun shooting in games that require speed with accuracy, thus at least somewhat simulating a threat scenario. These are, of course, not nearly as intense as a fight or to the death showdown with the worlds most dangerous creature, but there is only so much one can do in training and preparation. You made your comment about me in ignorance, not knowing at all what I have done to prepare or prep. I have done what is available to me to do so far. A trip to one of the top shooting schools is in mine and Sherri's near future when I am (hopefully soon) physically able to endure such a weekend.


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