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I saw Iraqis shot 5-6 times with FMJ 9mms before they were no longer a threat...this is an apples to Buick comparison, but it left me with zero confidence in the 9mm.
Better bullets and non-opium fueled bears changes the equation, but I still have zero confidence in the gangsta` 9.
Just my opinion on the matter. How many Iraquis did you see shot with 45s? Zero, though I wish I was afforded the pleasure. T-Inman, thank you for your service! You might have been similarly unimpressed with a 45. From what I've seen, most handgun rounds are underwhelming on human targets. The 9mm has a considerably bad rep among people who are forced to use FMH. A nice, hot round like a Ranger-t +p in 124 grain will have a considerably better effect than an FMJ, but as with all handgun ammo, shot placement is key (and luck). There have been numerous examples of 45ACP performing exactly as you described. Hollywood has us all filled with false expectations of handgun rounds. Just my .02 cents as a deputy sheriff/ coroner/ medic.
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09/28/16
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RJM
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09/28/16
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RJM
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09/29/16
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