Anyone who thinks you can't kill an elk cleanly with a 243 and the right bullet (or a 22-250 for that matter), hasn't hung around old timers in Idaho, Montana or Alaska much.
I think it's funny when a guy from Iowa is telling scenarshooter how to hunt elk in Montana.
"Those that think they know everything are annoying those of us that have Google." - Dr. D. Edward Wilkinson
Note to self: Never ask an old Fogey how he is doing today. Revised note to self: Keep it short when someone asks how I am doing.