Wow, I guess some of the elk we have killed over the last few years and eaten we’re not really dead. 3 with 243 equivalent cartridges, 1 with a smaller cartridge (6.8 spc). All shot through the shoulder, all but one fell on the spot. The one that didn’t, didn’t make it past 25 yards. We have killed several in the same timeframe with larger cartridges as well, but the end result was the same.