Aside, some here remember Dober from the Fire. We've been friends a long time and talk every week. Recently he said to me; "the only long action cartridge I really care to use or own any more is the 270." Mark mostly uses a 22-250 for deer and antelope, and a 270 as his big gun (elk). Mark's shot a lot more game than I ever will and I tend to listen to his opinion.

As for me, I've seen more elk killed with the 270 than any other cartridge, most of it with factory 130 gr. cup and core ammo. I took the oldest 6pt bull I've shot (F&G estimated 11.5 YO+) with the 270. The 270 is in it's natural element on a mountain in the Rockies or out in the Western sage flats.

“Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery