Originally Posted by gnoahhh
Let alone being humbled by seen flushes that are nigh impossible to hit.

Many years ago I had a hunting pard who couldn't hit a bull in the ass with a scoop shovel. His solution: try different shotguns instead of actually learn to shoot. Grouse score: zero. One day he showed up with an original Winchester M97 trench gun. "The wide pattern should fix things." As we clawed our way through a jungle of white pines a bird rocketed straight up from under his feet. He shot from the hip and took its head clean off, at a distance of maybe 12 feet. From that point on he had found his perfect grouse gun. Never mind the fact that he never killed another grouse, ever.

Never have hunted grouse but if most people would actually pattern their guns with different chokes they would realize that within 10-15 yards there isn't a whole lot of difference in overall spread.

The tighter choke will have a hotter center but overall pattern differences don't start opening up until 20sh yards.


The last time that bear ate a lawyer he had the runs for 33 days!