Agree fury- I used loads straight out of that first Banres Manual for my 35 whelen Ackley! I used 53.5 of the old 2015br behind the 250X and 58gr H322 behind the 200x...for 20 years! Only when I had friends help me look up their guesstimated pressure QL did I stop using them, and then it was only because I am down to one good eye, ha (not from the using those loads! lol) Both loads were reportedly over 72K...go figure.