Originally Posted by Dinny
+1 for the 357 Magnum or 357 Maximum especially in rifles. I killed my first bear with a 357 Maximum using a 270gr Accurate Mold LFP bullet at 1800fps. My son and I have both killed deer with 200gr MP Mold Penta HP bullets at 1160fps fired from the same 357 Maximum. He will hunt bears this June with his 357 Max using Barnes TSX FB bullets at 1900+ fps.

357 is fantastic at shorter ranges. The 180 XTP at just 12-1400 is deadly.

For longer ranges, the Grendel or ARC use 30% less powder than a Creedmoor or 243, but still have plenty to kill deer and bear. Creed and 243’s are still a little overkill unless you’re really stretching the range.