Originally Posted by cumminscowboy
so what was up with 38 spl being used when these guys had 357 mags in their hands??

so is everyone in agreement that going to the 10mm initially and later the 40 S&W was a knee jerk reaction to a problem that probably would not have been corrected if either of those cartridges had been used in the actual fire fight??
Not exactly. I can't speak for others. The FBI is very sensitive to bad publicity and this thing generated tons of it. The FBI/Military thinking, for lack of better terms, of the day was Penetration. This somewhat opposed civilian police training which espoused velocity. So there already was a body of evidence to support the Bureau's decision to go with the 10. The stupid part is that IIRC, the 10 being utilized was deemed "too hot" for some agents and the 40 was created and loaded at roughly the same speeds. It's kinda like Baby Bear's porridge being "just right" when physics dictates that Mama Bear's was more likely to have been the right temperature, given the Goldilocks criteria.