Kevin, with all due respect, the idea that you are going to get effective, experienced cops to practice "minimum force" as defined by those w/o experience, "ain't goin to happen." What will happen is you'll get cops that get killed and job either won't get done or the cost will be unacceptable. Been there and done that too many times. And it's still going on.
The FBI "learned" the hard way. Have you forgotten that their agents weren't even allowed to carry guns when it was first formed ? Have you forgotten that after the heavy criminal types were reduced significantly, the real gun fighting FBI agents were forced out of the FBI way back before WWII ?
It's much the same with alot of agencies. There are exceptions but very few.
Got any idea why the cops in the big, liberal cities have first class lawyers standing by for their members ? And very strong unions ? Same crap.
Ever wonder why the gun and CCW movement is so popular and getting even more so ? Because the people that live in many places don't feel safe. In spite of the phony crime statistics, and you wouldn't believe how bad they are, the truth comes out. Our cops aren't getting the job done. We aren't near as safe as many political types want us to believe.
All the training and the best equipment in the world won't take the place of the proper attitude. Our cops have been fed this PC nonsense for so long alot of it rubs off even here. For example, the concerns about over penetration. You want to worry about that remote possibility, fine. I want to win if I must fight. Winners who give away their advantages often loose. E
