If I shoot to kill from a tree stand its a hand held rifle in the sitting position, usually no rest. The confidence that the rifle will put a bullet a half inch away from the spot I am aiming at is why I shoot guns off the bench, to determine the rifles precision, a dog that sprays 4-5 inch groups at 100 yards with 3-4 loads and 2-3 scopes is just gone at a loss. Other folks can live with that, I refuse to do so.