The 9mm failed to reach the heart on a 6'-1"" 170 pound felon. That's a failure in my book.
^^^This^^^ Speaks volumes to me.
I'll stick with my 45acp or, if I feel the need for more rounds, one of my Glocks in .357 sig or 10mm.
I've personally seen a bonded .223 load (the same load that I shot end to end on several hogs) fail to penetrate to a guy's heart after passing through his left arm.
Stuff happens. And samples of one, or even a few, aren't valid. That's why I give weight to a study that considered an enormous amount of data rather than "well, one time....." stories.
One theme that's consistent is that 115 grain expanding 9mm lead core bullets are not good penetrators it's been demonstrated over and over and over.
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
