I guess this shows the tremendous improvements in bullets in the last few years, as this is what Bill Pinnell, the "P" part of Pinnell and Talifson, the famous Kodiak Island brown bear guides, said about the 7mm on bears: "the .30-06 is the smallest rifle anyone ought to rely on for big bear hunting. Some years ago, many hunters touted the 7mm magnum as the cure-all cartridge. But you got to riddle the bear to kill it with a 7mm magnum. "

P&T outfitted from the early 50s thru the 90s so when the 7 came out, probably few bullets in the 7s were ideal for the big bears and I suspect very few of their hunters used handloads. P&T sure weren't gun men, but weren't short on experience with bears as they guided a total of 784 hunters, almost all after brown bears. So I suppose that when it came to factory cartridges and loads they'd pretty much seen it all.