I"ll have to ask Spencer when I get a chance, but all our conversations I can recall there were 2 things they hated, ballistic tip type bullets and guns they clients could not shoot. I know he always said he'd rather the client shoot a small gun and hit the vitals on the first shot, rather than the client be sold a gun he won't shoot enough, can't handle by a gun "store" salsemen because the cant' be killed with an 06...

IIRC there was a story from them about a farmer that brought his old 270... that never had a single issue...

We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....