I would like to add that Jim Carmichel just finished the NBRSA benchrest nationals. After a weeks shooting in 4 different gun classes Jim finished 20th overall out of 172 shooters. His average group after 30 5 shot groups and 16 10 shot groups was a .2496 MOA average group size. Ain't no mulligans or called fliers, every shot counts. That is damn good shooting for any man. Butch
