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Posted By: isaac IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
FOX just confirmed!!
Posted By: jorgeI Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I'm not happy...jorge
Posted By: isaac Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
You will be!!
Posted By: bhemry Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
A much better chance I'll hold my nose and vote for McCain now instead of a 3rd party. I wish she were the top of the ticket though. grin
Posted By: isaac Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
What Obammy speech??
Posted By: Tod Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Won't that give those anti-Obama Clinton supporters something to think about.

Palin as VP gives me hope. Might even hold my nose and vote for the wrinkly guy.
Posted By: FOsteology Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
She's got that "naughty schoolteacher/librarian" thing goin' on.....I'll give her that.


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Posted By: isaac Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Obammy's team has gone from a euphoria last night into a major scrambling mode right now.

I can sense their WTF now!!
Posted By: Redneck Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Never heard of her until yesterday.. Does the rest of the country know anything about this person?

If she's a no-name, how in heck is that gonna help??

Wonder why he round-filed Romney?? At least he's nationally known...
Posted By: Calvin Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I see her as the closest to "one of us" that it could be. She shoots, hunts, fishes, is conservative, and hasn't been ruined by washington. A woman like Palin is a breath of fresh air for a conservative guy like myself.
Posted By: Otter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
If, indeed, Ms Palin is the VP pick, McCain pulled off a coup. With what little I've been able to glean from the internet about her, she appears to be a decent pick - quite conservative - pro-life, pro-gun, NRA Life member, not ethically challenged, a "hockey mom" of 5 (youngest born April '08 with Down's Syndrome), sportswoman and very easy to look at. We will learn much more about her in the coming hours and days.
Posted By: 340boy Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
+ 1
Posted By: Sassy Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Palin is a great choice and much a much needed shot in the arm for the Republican party. She is a true conservative.

Sorry she doesn't stand up to pee Jorge but what can you say!
Posted By: thismortalcoil Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Well this will certainly make things very interesting.
Posted By: arctic338 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
WOOHOO!!! Pro-gun, conservative, hunts, fishes, very popular. How is Bammy going to bad-mouth a woman without losing the Hillary supporters. Yes!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted By: tjm10025 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08

Selections from her Wikipedia entry:

"She hunts, eats moose burgers, ice fishes, rides snowmobiles, and owns a float plane.[6][7] Palin holds a lifetime membership with the National Rifle Association."
"Outside the fishing season, (her husband) Todd works for BP at an oil field on the North Slope[9] and is a champion snowmobiler, winning the 2000-mile "Iron Dog" race four times.[5] Todd is a Native Yup'ik Eskimo.[5] T"
"On April 18, 2008, Palin gave birth to her second son, Trig Paxson Van Palin, who has Down syndrome.[12] She returned to the office three days after giving birth.[13] Palin refused to let the results of prenatal genetic testing change her decision to have the baby. [13]" (emphasis added)

Holy moly, she's a woman, her husband is a native American, and she has a Downs Syndrome child.

She's untouchable!

My apologies to any 'Fire members with a DS child, but this is political gold. A PC Republican!

Obama's toast.

- Tom
Posted By: Everyday Hunter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by FOsteology
She's got that "naughty schoolteacher/librarian" thing goin' on.....I'll give her that.

grin grin grin grin

Steve
Posted By: Tod Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Washing outsider, conservative chops, young and female. Addresses a lot of the complaints about McCain. And not a long history in government to attack (Contrast with Biden). If you think about it, it's McCain vs Biden and Obama vs Palin. And Palin actually has governing experience, unlike the other three.

Given that Romney and Huckabee had their own baggage, it might just be the perfect pick.

Not much here yet, but: http://www.ontheissues.org/Sarah_Palin.htm
Posted By: Stan V Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Y'all have lost your minds......

On one hand you want leadership, then settle for Palin? Look for Palin and her female choice for VP in 2012......go GOP!

Moderates rule!
Posted By: Calvin Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
You upset that Palin has killed more/shot more/caught more than you? If it makes you feel better, maybe she'll hunt over a feeder? You guys will never be happy.
Posted By: tjm10025 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08

Tod:

Her husband is a working stiff, too. Commercial fisherman and BP oil field worker. He counterbalances Biden's roots in the working class.

The fact that Palin is married to a working guy and not a wealthy real estate developer, for example, helps her look good.

- Tom
Posted By: fish30ought6 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
She is a babe, every red-blooded man's dream wife and the kind of woman other women can like.
Posted By: Stan V Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
So, Palin is an Alaskan stud?
Posted By: Everyday Hunter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
So, we have the new guy, a senator who delivers a good speech loaded with the old failed liberal solutions. He's teamed with another insider senator who has served for a long, long time, and no one has ever caught fire for him...

Versus...

an old guy who until now was loved by the Democrats and the media, and who has a record as a non-partisan Republican. He's teamed with an attractive outsider who will appeal to the Republican base.

If, as O'bama says, the problem with Washington is inside Washington, then why wouldn't the obvious choice be the maverick with the outsider?

I like McCain's chances with Palin.

Steve
Posted By: deflave Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Great pick by the GOP. I'd love to see Biden act like a "bulldog" (as he's commonly referred to by the media) with Palin. The republicans know the dems will have to tread lightly on this one.

Glad to see the republicans running a smart campaign here.

Travis
Posted By: 1akhunter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
holy smokes where's a link?

never thought they'd have the balls to go there!


heads up guys, she's ridden the rocket ship to politics, from Wasilla mayor, to governor of 600K people to VP candidate?

I'm hopin it doesn't go to her head, and I like the odds of it not happening.


she'll have a lot of unpleasant things to learn about the Beltway
crowd.

but imo, she's a decent woman and a conservative, she may have been selected on a pure political gambit, but the GOP just got a shot of something good if it's true!


if you believe in it, pray for her, she's a good woman from what I've gleaned and she could be very good for our country if she can stand fast by her principles and not get caught up in politics as usual.
Posted By: 163bc Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
YEEEEEEEEEHA Brilliant choice John McCain!!!! This election was just decided!!!! Obammy is a footnote now!! 163bc
Posted By: Cheyenne Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I am concerned like jorge, but I can live with it. I think she is going to have to show her domestic policy skills very quickly. Already MSNBC has "under state investigation" as one of its bullet points.

Edited to add:

I do have to give McCain high marks in the guts department. He didn't take the safe path.
Posted By: battue Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
As Dad used to say when he was surprised: "Well I'll be dipped in chit!!!"

Cool!!!

Battue
Posted By: Stan V Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
My experience with women, especially ugly women (dims)...... Palin is the kind of women they hate.....I'm not sure a conservative looker pulls Hillary voters.

I'd hate to be one of her children, most mothers with 5 have different priorities.

Posted By: Everyday Hunter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
O'bama who?

If the Democrats pursue issue of the "state investigation," it won't get much traction. For one thing, most Americans won't understand, and for another, the McCain campaign will have fleshed that out enough to give a coherent response. Besides that, the worst Sarah Palin can be accused of is belated action. This will be a non-starter, and pursued too vigorously will make the Democrats look bad.

Steve
Posted By: Everyday Hunter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Stan V
My experience with women, especially ugly women (dims)...... Palin is the kind of women they hate.....I'm not sure a conservative looker pulls Hillary voters.

I'd hate to be one of her children, most mothers with 5 have different priorities.

You bring up two good points. The group charged with being the attack dogs will be the radical feministas. But that might make Palin look even better to average Americans.

Steve
Posted By: battue Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Not all of Hildabeast votes, but hopefully enough.
Female, mother of five, pro-life, NRA member, hunter, breath of fresh air, etc, that's a pile of swing votes.

Battue
Posted By: FVA Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I think she is a great choice and a kick in the gut to Obumble/Biden. Her will to stick by her principles in governing will give many comfort against a perceived lack of experience. WTG,IMO.
Posted By: Dan_Chamberlain Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
It's a freaking "inspired" choice! It just reinforces that the democrats are good at checkers, while the Rupublicans love chess!

She has easily as much experience as Obama AND she's run a huge state for as long as Obama has run his mouth.

By the time she's ready for the top job in 4 years, her credentials will be better than anything the dems can field.

Iraq is improving

The economy is not in the tanks despite the oil prices

The conservative movement about drill now is taking hold

The economy will grow as a result of additional tax breaks

The illegals are exiting in droves as the federal enforcement picks up

Unemployment will again reverse toward minimal

The dems have absolutely nothing to offer working people who are the majority


It's inspired.

Dan
Posted By: Ruger 4570 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Well, she may just be the first Woman Vice President this Country has had, she will also be the best lookin' one too.
Posted By: Stan V Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Let's hope McCain survives the election, if he doesn't, how does she look to y'all then?

Don't read anything into that, just saying....wouldn't she change your 'feelings' at the top of the ticket? Cause, that's all I'm reading, feelings.
Posted By: 1akhunter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Stan V
My experience with women, especially ugly women (dims)...... Palin is the kind of women they hate.....I'm not sure a conservative looker pulls Hillary voters.

I'd hate to be one of her children, most mothers with 5 have different priorities.




ain't no surprise that we disagree on things Stan. (grin)


but I'd much rather more children of medium to big families be exposed to a mother like SP than what most kids with 4-5 siblings seem to get. and maybe most is a bad word to use (no offense intended to families that enjoy children and will raise them), but she sure beats the heck out of the welfare mom, multiple kid scenario
Posted By: The_Real_Hawkeye Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by isaac
FOX just confirmed!!
He could hardly have made a better pick. Makes it an exciting ticket, and will help him sure up conservative support.
Posted By: Penguin Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Exactly what we need at this critical juncture in time: an obscure GOP hottie soccer mom best known for her enthusiastic approval of 'drill, drill, drill'... the hell is this world coming to?

Will
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Her last child was born with Down's syndrome, she is what I think about when I see the bumper stickers that read "Alaska Girls Kick Ass!"
Posted By: ebd10 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Well, that tears it. McCain/Palin has my vote. Maybe after being elected mcCain will be abducted by aliens or something. He can spend his remaining time as a guest in their hacienda while Palin gets the job done.
Posted By: Ivan Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by jorgeI
I'm not happy...jorge


What are your reservations?
Posted By: Sassy Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Sorry Penguin but I didn't see soccer mom anywhere on her extensive resume. Anyway whats wrong with soccer moms! At least they are taking an interest in their kids which is more than can be said for a lot of parents (mothers and fathers alike).
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I don't think he likes voting for anyone with bigger balls...
Posted By: isaac Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Alaskan's social climbing to DC!!


Yeah Baby!!

Good day for the GOP.

Obammy's team is caught like a doe in the hi-beams!!
Posted By: FVA Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Stan V
Let's hope McCain survives the election, if he doesn't, how does she look to y'all then?

Don't read anything into that, just saying....wouldn't she change your 'feelings' at the top of the ticket? Cause, that's all I'm reading, feelings.


I'd prefer it the other way around.
Posted By: Everyday Hunter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Sassy
Sorry Penguin but I didn't see soccer mom anywhere on her extensive resume. Anyway whats wrong with soccer moms! At least they are taking an interest in their kids which is more than can be said for a lot of parents (mothers and fathers alike).

No, she's not a "soccer mom." She's a self-described "hockey mom." laugh

Steve
Posted By: Sassy Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Steelhead great bumper sticker, Where can I get one and I'm not one to put bumper stickers on my car?
Posted By: 2ndwind Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Doing the happy dance here..... Barry is done... stick a fork<pitchfork> in him:cool.

I had read about some political "stuff" being in her closet months ago but don't remember the details. What are they?
Posted By: jasonkjasonk Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I for one am thrilled!! Not usually a political poster, but I'm making an exception for Palin.

She has restored my hope for the McCain ticket. Young, conservative, drill at home, NRA, etc etc etc.... oh and she hasn't slept with any interns that we know of.

She's going to pull some of the independent women voters over from the Hillary camp, any straight male would be a fool not to vote for her and she just is a good politician. She's fresh, hasn't been in the game long enough to be in everybodys pockets and is all for political reform.

And....SHE's AN ALASKAN!!! WooHoooo
Posted By: The_Real_Hawkeye Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by 1akhunter
holy smokes where's a link?

never thought they'd have the balls to go there!
Me neither. I've been hoping he'd pick Palin for months now, but never really expected it.
Posted By: tjm10025 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08

There are a bunch of grumpy, frumpy Democratic women packing their bags in hotels all over Denver, tossing their Obama buttons in the wastebaskets and thinking to themselves .... "hmmm."

- Tom
Posted By: battue Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Anyone know where I can get some of the "Alaska girls kick ass" bumber stickers?

Sure beats "Don't mess with Texas"

Battue
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I finally agree with TRH about something, skeery.

Sassy, I look for one for you.
Posted By: pumpgun Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
He showed some guts and smarts in this pick. tom
Posted By: 17ACKLEYBEE Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
A young dynamic person that brings more to the ticket than McCain. Would you rather being seeing this on the news for the next eight years or Obama for the next four.
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Posted By: The_Real_Hawkeye Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I honestly didn't think McCain was smart enough to realize the wisdom of a Palin pick.
Posted By: Everyday Hunter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by 2ndwind
Doing the happy dance here..... Barry is done... stick a fork<pitchfork> in him:cool.

I had read about some political "stuff" being in her closet months ago but don't remember the details. What are they?

Nutshell version:
I believe it's her sister who was married to a state trooper. In AK, the game wardens are state troopers. He was allegedly involved in some poaching. Palin is accused of seeking to have him fired at the behest of her sister.

Steve
Posted By: isaac Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Hell, you guys...women who never voted before will get out to the polls now.

Bammy or Biden can't go after her inexperience...she has more than Bam-Bam and she has executive experience, unlike both on the Dem ticket.

Great pick,McCain!!
Posted By: Otter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
In high school they called her "Sarah Barracuda", she was captain and starting guard on her State Champion basketball team. A barracuda swimming with the DC sharks . . . this could be very interesting.
Posted By: 17ACKLEYBEE Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
I honestly didn't think McCain was smart enough to realize the wisdom of a Palin pick.


He didn't have too someone did and he listened.
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Folks that haven't lived in Alaska don't really understand just how different and grounded most folks are here. I've never met a better bunch of folks than those in Alaska.

Nice to see Alaska in the White House.
Posted By: Everyday Hunter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by isaac
Hell, you guys...women who never voted before will get out to the polls now.

Bammy or Biden can't go after her inexperience...she has more than Bam-Bam and she has executive experience, unlike both on the Dem ticket.

Great pick,McCain!!

I'm glad he didn't pick another senator. Four guys from inside the beltway when the problem is inside the beltway -- inconceivable. How could anyone take that argument seriously.

Steve
Posted By: husqvarna Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
She served on a state commision that busted some courrupt gov./oil co. types, hunts caribou and has a son in the army. Seems too good to be true.
Posted By: Penguin Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Actually I was hoping for Paul Volkker and a quick succession, God forgive me. Oh well, she beats the hell out of McCain himself. Hope for the best.

Politically probably a smart move. Might snare some of the female Clinton supporters who aren't happy about how things turned out.

Will
Posted By: 2ndwind Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Well if he is guilty I'm just fine with that.... a rouge game warden that is about as unlikable as it get...
Posted By: 17ACKLEYBEE Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by isaac
Hell, you guys...women who never voted before will get out to the polls now.

Bammy or Biden can't go after her inexperience...she has more than Bam-Bam and she has executive experience, unlike both on the Dem ticket.

Great pick,McCain!!


The real big thing is conservative women Democrats who have been abandoned by the Democratic left will be crossing over to vote for her.
Posted By: 7mmRM Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Great pick!!!
Posted By: isaac Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Some of the female Clinton voters?

Surely you jest??

Polls had about 20% of Clinton voters going to McCain already.

Sniffing way too many Nascar fumes, bro'!!
Posted By: McInnis Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Oh God, I'm stuck here in Dallas at the daughter's house and they don't get Fox - I'm stuck with CNN!

And they're saying that McCain "Just took experience off the table" and how she will get blasted by Biden in the VP debate. They don't know what else to say, but they sure aren't talking about The Speech.
Posted By: 2ndwind Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I want an "Alaska girls kick ass" bumper stickergrin
Posted By: isaac Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
How could Bammy say one damn thing about one's inexperience?
Posted By: Kimber7man Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Stan V
Let's hope McCain survives the election, if he doesn't, how does she look to y'all then?

Don't read anything into that, just saying....wouldn't she change your 'feelings' at the top of the ticket? Cause, that's all I'm reading, feelings.


Between O'Bama and Palin, I'd easily choose Palin right here, right now. O'Bama's record on guns is horrendous.....
Posted By: Otter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Folks that haven't lived in Alaska don't really understand just how different and grounded most folks are here. I've never met a better bunch of folks than those in Alaska.

Nice to see Alaska in the White House.


It isn't just folks who haven't lived in Alaska, it's folks who haven't lived in rural America, who don't realize how grounded most folks who live there are.
Posted By: 1akhunter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
no more SUCKS LESS for me



VOTE for PALIN for VP and whomever she's bringing along (grin)



where's STEVE NO? am thinking he's not happy about this?



btw boys it'll be on the news, but get the grassroot thang going, tell her your Alaskan friends are crazy about her, and while we hate to give her up, she'd be good for the country!
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I've lived in rural America and there is a difference, but I follow you.
Posted By: tjm10025 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by McInnis
And they're saying that McCain "Just took experience off the table" and how she will get blasted by Biden in the VP debate.


Can't be too many people outside of Alaska who have ever heard her speak. Maybe Steelhead and our other Alaskan brothers can say how she'll do.

- Tom

edited for grammer
Posted By: 1akhunter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I'd say Biden best choose his words carefully when he debates Palin.


one I think she's smart enough to use the lack of experience thing against the Dems.


no I don't have much experience being a politician, I have experience being a decent human being that believes in the goodness of individuals and their ability to improve their own lives with the least amount of government interference possible.

Alaskans elected me, cause I'm more like them, we're tired of politics as usual, tis why they chose me over Murkowski, and guess what lots of Americans are tired of guys like you too Joe Biden.
Posted By: 1akhunter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
and sides if it gets nasty from the Dems, wouldn't surprise me at all to see Mr. Palin call Joe Biden out.

I'd have a lot more respect for politicians and lawyers in general if they didn't call each other every name in the book and then go have lunch with each other!
Posted By: Calvin Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
She'll do great and you'll find yourself gazing into her eyes..... (grin)
Posted By: Ramblin_Razorback Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Obviously CNN has some mental lightweights. The PRESIDENT is the one who needs the experience. The VP is the one who is on standby (and gaining experience by the day while in office).
Posted By: Everyday Hunter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I can see it now -- that traditional picture of the President that gets ignored in schoolrooms and libraries will be joined by a picture of Sarah Palin. Elect McCain/Palin, put her picture beside his, and her picture will be everywhere.

Steve
Posted By: Stan V Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Once out of the cities, Americans everywhere are grounded.....befoe Palin the thinking here was McCain was sweeping the election. And I agreed. McCain has this won and I don't think someone as green as Palin rates the VP spot....she has no foreign policy experience, she has no military experience, has she ever been outside of Alaska? Take the 'she' out and what have you got? An Alaskan girl that kicks azz? HEHE

Posted By: 7x57STEVE Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Between Obama, Biden, McCain and Palin, Palin is the only one with experience in running something beside their own campaigns and their mouths. She is an executive responsible for running a state government, meeting payrolls and preparing budgets. The other three are all from the Senate "talk, posture, berate and argue" club, and not responsible for a single outcome.

I think she is the best, and most experienced, of the four! And she is right(in both senses of the word) on the issues.

Case closed.

Steve
Posted By: Everyday Hunter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Ramblin_Razorback
Obviously CNN has some mental lightweights. The PRESIDENT is the one who needs the experience. The VP is the one who is on standby (and gaining experience by the day while in office).

Right. Dan Quayle (arguably a little more experienced than O'bama) didn't do any damage to George H.W. Bush, a president with a thorough resume.

Steve
Posted By: horse1 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Wonder if her husband brings any of the native vote with him?
Posted By: JPro Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
As a group, we're relatively easy to please. Give me something that is good and looks good, and I'm good......
Posted By: jorgeI Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Ivan
Originally Posted by jorgeI
I'm not happy...jorge


What are your reservations?


She's too inexperienced & too young and believes in man-made global warming. Also, I just have issues with women as mothers/C-in-C. I would have preferred Romney over both, but I can certainly live with it and I certainly hope I'm proven wrong on my concerns.jorge
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Hell, her parents were out caribou hunting and were told to came back and listen to the radio.

Posted By: 2ndwind Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Can't log onto several right leaning Blogs..... I don't think it's a cyber attack... I think everybody in their right mind is celebrating and filling up all the roomgrin
Posted By: jorgeI Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Steelhead
I don't think he likes voting for anyone with bigger balls...


Well as a CWO in the shallow water civilian navy, it doesn't take much to impress you. jorge
Posted By: 2ndwind Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Here is a Palin ad that features her firing an AR 15.... I'm guessing this is a first too.

http://michellemalkin.com/
Posted By: 1akhunter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Stan V
Once out of the cities, Americans everywhere are grounded....




well whaddya know we do agree on something! (grin)


when she was running against Murkowski for governor, we heard the same, lame excuses, "not enough experience, untested"

exactly why I wanted to vote for her, I'm tired of politicians, give me some real folk every day all day!
Posted By: jorgeI Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
I honestly didn't think McCain was smart enough to realize the wisdom of a Palin pick.


Hawk, you just can't stand it can't you? He's a Naval Aviator, and a graduate from the USNA. I don't know what your bona-fides are, but I'll put McCain's up against yours anyday. jorge
Posted By: tbear99 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
she will be hands down best looking vp in history
Posted By: Stan V Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Randy, Alaska gov ain't the world stage.......
Posted By: Cheyenne Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
The mother/CIC thing doesn't bother me at all. I think the next few days will be critcal. If the public perceives this is just a gimmick, it could backfire. The lack of foreign policy experience is a negative.

However, given his "maverick" nature, I don't see McCain as picking someone just to "secure the base" or "the woman vote" or whatever. I mean, we were worrying up to the last minute whether he was going to pick Lieberman! So, we have to figure she was well vetted, and his handlers have been bringing her up to speed on the issues where she needs help.
Posted By: billhilly Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
One thing for sure, it has certainly sucked all the life out of the Obama speech coverage. Nobody�s talking about it. Nicely played.

Posted By: Everyday Hunter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I wonder when the first polls will come out on this. Not that it matters, but it could be interesting.

The McCain campaign needs to be very aggressive in getting the public familiar with Palin.

Steve
Posted By: ar15a292f Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Pro life, pro 2nd Ammendment, a Washington outsider and she will shatter the "glass ceiling". I am very excited about Sarah Palin as John McCain's VP.
Posted By: Everyday Hunter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by ar15a292f
Pro life, pro 2nd Ammendment, a Washington outsider and she will shatter the "glass ceiling". I am very excited about Sarah Palin as John McCain's VP.

Somehow it seems right that someone come out of nowhere to shatter the so-called glass ceiling, and that it be a conservative, pro-gun, pro-life mother of five to do it. Feminists everywhere are bitterly weeping.

Steve
Posted By: Don Gordon Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I'm excited. A great strategic move with a lot of Plus's and few Minus's.


AND, 10-to-1 odds, she's a better shot than Cheney. smile
Posted By: Stan V Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Gonna be tough for a mom with 5 children, and one with DS......look at any administration to see the wear and tear.

Posted By: Bristoe Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Nothing against Palin,...but I don't think she'll make a difference in the voting.

McCain is obviously nominating a woman in order to siphon the disgruntled Hillary voters over to his camp, but she's not the type that will appeal to those.

Basically, she's window dressing,...and will only appeal to those who are already McCain supporters.

McCain broke even with his pick instead of gaining an edge.
Posted By: 458 Lott Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
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http://www.onceinabluemoose.com/car...p=30&action=list&category_id=327

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Posted By: Everyday Hunter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Don Gordon
AND, 10-to-1 odds, she's a better shot than Cheney. smile


Very funny! You'll get no argument there, even from Dick Cheney.

Steve
Posted By: CGPAUL Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Don`t know bout you guys...but I`m in love!

Excellent choice!!!
Posted By: Everyday Hunter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Stan V
Gonna be tough for a mom with 5 children, and one with DS......look at any administration to see the wear and tear.

Maybe, but female corporate executives all over the country face the same challenge, so no feminista will dare say it.

Steve
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I don't know, WESTPAC widows are fairly impressive.....
Posted By: m1fan Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
We can't sit back and relish this, make sure you vote...

From what I am hearing, the Shania song comes to mind, "She just not a pretty face."
Posted By: SAcharlie Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by FOsteology
She's got that "naughty schoolteacher/librarian" thing goin' on.....I'll give her that.


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You can say that one more time!
Posted By: isaac Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
but I don't think she'll make a difference in the voting.
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According to blogging sites and the enormous amount of e-mails Fox, alone, is getting, she's already made a difference.

Women vote too, Bristoe. 54% of the voting population are female.
Posted By: btb375 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
This pick was brilliant!
I think this will really fire up te right.
Way Cool


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Front sight focus, trigger squeeze.
Posted By: m1fan Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I think it means a bunch when you have guys here on this forum who speak highly of Palin. She has great approval ratings and as the Gov. actually runs a state, not just her mouth like the Senators...
Posted By: muledeer Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I would pay money to watch her debate Biden... grin.

George Washington had no experience governing when he was elected President. Abraham Lincoln had no experience governing when he was elected President. Teddy Roosevelt had been governor of New York two years when he was picked for VP.

I'm kinda OK with the "experience" thing. It honestly isn't Fauxbama's "lack of experience" that bothers me about him -- it's what he's experienced at, and what he believes.

I voted for Sarah in the primary; I voted for her for governor; and I'm voting for her for VP. And I think "President Palin" has a nice alliterative ring to it... grin grin grin.

Could get real interesting now.

Dennis
Posted By: 340boy Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
McCain is smarter than I thought; picking Palin as his VP.

cool
Posted By: Bristoe Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by isaac
but I don't think she'll make a difference in the voting.
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According to blogging sites and the enormous amount of e-mails Fox, alone, is getting, she's already made a difference.



Anyone who watches FOX is already a McCain supporter.

Like I said,..he broke even with the pick.
Posted By: tjm10025 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08

Originally Posted by Bristoe
McCain is obviously nominating a woman in order to siphon the disgruntled Hillary voters over to his camp, but she's not the type that will appeal to those.


Bristoe:

You're wrong about one of them.

My wife was a Hillary supporter. My wife is a sexist and unapologetic about it. She didn't care what kind of woman Hillary was, or what her faults were. My wife wanted a woman in the White House, and Hillary was, until today, her only hope.

Today, McCain/Palin won her vote. She doesn't know anything about Palin except that she's a governor of a state and therefore has more experience governing than Obama.

My wife knows McCain is old, he could easily stroke out or have a fatal heart attack in office, and, bingo... Woman President.

That's all my wife wants to know.

Obama just lost a Hillary supporter. I believe he's lost a bunch more, too.

- Tom
Posted By: isaac Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Really....Many of those on the sites were Dem leaners saying that this pick has them pulling the lever for McCain.
Posted By: tjm10025 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by SAcharlie
Originally Posted by FOsteology
She's got that "naughty schoolteacher/librarian" thing goin' on.....I'll give her that.


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You can say that one more time!


I would pay almost anything for a chance to intern for her. smile

- Tom
Posted By: dogcatcher223 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Stan V
My experience with women, especially ugly women (dims)...... Palin is the kind of women they hate.....I'm not sure a conservative looker pulls Hillary voters.


Very valid point!
Posted By: Bristoe Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by isaac
Really....Many of those on the sites were Dem leaners saying that this pick has them pulling the lever for McCain.


Well,...that's what FOX says, of course,...but you can't believe that network when it says, "good morning".

It's the Pravda of the west.
Posted By: hillbillybear Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I like the VP pick A LOT. cool cool
Posted By: 458 Lott Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Most voters are stupid and shallow.

Working class democrat guy, do I vote for the black guy or the babe, babe gets the vote.

Shallow minded woman voter, Sarah gets the vote.

McCain/Palin don't need the hard core left, just the swing vote.
Posted By: isaac Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
B....Sour grapes over another failed prediction,huh?

Posted By: Borealis Bob Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by Ivan
Originally Posted by jorgeI
I'm not happy...jorge


What are your reservations?


She's too inexperienced & too young and believes in man-made global warming. Also, I just have issues with women as mothers/C-in-C. I would have preferred Romney over both, but I can certainly live with it and I certainly hope I'm proven wrong on my concerns.jorge


Your concerned that someone might think twice about committing our youth to combat? Just maybe, ya know, think matters through a bit?

BTW, being a mother didn't keep Maggie Thatcher from sending her boys to the Falklands and kicking ass.
Posted By: muygrande1 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I am ok with her. My vote was with Conde all along BUT she just wasn't "going there".
Posted By: Dale K Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
There was an article about her in Alaska magazine earlier this year. Based on that, she gets a thumbs up from this Pa. ridgerunner.

Dale
Posted By: Bristoe Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by isaac
B....Sour grapes over another failed prediction,huh?



What prediction?

In any event, there's no sour grapes from me.

McCain may as well have picked a mannequin for his veep. Palin will have no impact on McCain's administration whatsoever.

She's just window dressing.
Posted By: CGPAUL Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I like her eyes!!! Super picture, BTB.
Posted By: Don Gordon Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Hillary may be envious of Palin's nomination, but Bill Clinton is kicking himself for not having a VP that looked so good.
Posted By: ebd10 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Before we celebrate too much, keep in mind what the VP actually does... The only way this will truly effect anything is if McCain leaves office before his term is up.
Posted By: 17ACKLEYBEE Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by isaac
Really....Many of those on the sites were Dem leaners saying that this pick has them pulling the lever for McCain.


Well,...that's what FOX says, of course,...but you can't believe that network when it says, "good morning".

It's the Pravda of the west.


Bristoe you're such a pathetic lefty. laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh
Posted By: Sitka deer Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Jorge
"Well as a CWO in the shallow water civilian navy, it doesn't take much to impress you."

As someone without personal military experience (my father retired as an AF bird col) but with much experience with CG activities I think your comment is chickenshit.

My experiences with AF jet jockeys have been "special" and not impressive in any positive way...
art
Posted By: SAcharlie Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Now thats the best kind of shock and awe. McCain may be on to something...a new approach to diplomacy.
Posted By: muledeer Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by isaac
B....Sour grapes over another failed prediction,huh?



What prediction?

In any event, there's no sour grapes from me.

McCain may as well have picked a mannequin for his veep. Palin will have no impact on McCain's administration whatsoever.

She's just window dressing.


That's what Frank Murkowski thought too...clearly you are as big an idiot as he was...

In a face-to-face, she would eat your lunch and never notice the effort. She is, in fact, the real deal. Something you have yet to demonstrate.

Dennis
Posted By: Bristoe Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
McCain's going to have a difficult time trying to play off of Obama's inexperience now.

His running mate is the governor of a state with a total population about the size of the metropolitan area of a medium sized eastern city.
Posted By: Bristoe Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by muledeer
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by isaac
B....Sour grapes over another failed prediction,huh?



What prediction?

In any event, there's no sour grapes from me.

McCain may as well have picked a mannequin for his veep. Palin will have no impact on McCain's administration whatsoever.

She's just window dressing.


That's what Frank Murkowski thought too...clearly you are as big an idiot as he was...



kiss my ass
Posted By: ebd10 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Quote
My experiences with AF jet jockeys have been "special" and not impressive in any positive way...


Jorge is a Naval Aviator. Sort of like the difference between Nascar drivers and Off-Road racers.
Posted By: 5sdad Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I'm going to try this again for those familiar with elementary level literature: if Sarah is Palin, is she also Tlal? (Trust me - it's good if you are familiar with the book in question.)
Posted By: Hubert Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I was not going to vote, but my democratic azz will be pulling the lever for McCain for sure.
Posted By: Borealis Bob Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by dogcatcher223
Originally Posted by Stan V
My experience with women, especially ugly women (dims)...... Palin is the kind of women they hate.....I'm not sure a conservative looker pulls Hillary voters.


Very valid point!


Well, from what I've gathered about the preferences a portion of them likely find Palin as desirable as we do.
Posted By: 43Shooter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
She's hot, might help a lot.
Posted By: 1minute Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Given her past no nonsense approach, I'm not sure she could fare will in the good ole boy compromise I'll scratch your back pool. I wish her luck though and hope she does well. 1Minute
Posted By: Stan V Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
So far, one hail of a speech!

We'll see.....long way to go!!
Posted By: StrayDog Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Yes she is hot, and a member of our NRA maybe she should be president and McCain VP. Then they would have a chance of stopping the Dems.
Posted By: Partagas Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I don't know if McCain's health can handle her. She could easily be prez.
Posted By: 1_deuce Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Palin just finished her speech....and she did well! She'll kick Biden's azz any day!
1D
Posted By: WyoJoe Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Folks that haven't lived in Alaska don't really understand just how different and grounded most folks are here. I've never met a better bunch of folks than those in Alaska.


Quadruple dittos. Lived there from 1996-1998.

With McCain picking her it makes me more inclined to vote for him.
Posted By: isaac Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I was very impressed, as well, Deuce.

Excellent job.

Obammy's team is already out saying she's a small town mayor in the pockets of big oil. Sufice it to say, Bam Bam's fear is showing and he is getting hammered for the Diss!!
Posted By: fish30ought6 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
This choice has to make Hillary deliriously happy.
Why?
After McCain/Palin win, it sets the stage for more of the country to seriously consider a woman as president. Of course, SHE will lose, too, if she ever gets the Demo nod ...
Posted By: Sassy Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
The cracks in the glass ceiling are starting to break and fall as we speak. Good job Sarah. McCain made a very good choice and whether the media thinks so or not WOMEN DO VOTE and she IS going to make a positive difference for most women who will vote for her.
Posted By: 2ndwind Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
This is from a post at LGF... if this is the "dirt" on her, it gonna be Miracle Grow for the campaign .

"She is accused of trying to get a state trooper fired. He was her brother in law and abusive. He tasered their child."
Posted By: Longbob Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I would vote for Palin, not McCain. I am a bit perplexed with my choices. McCain my get my vote now by riding Palin's coattail.
Posted By: ironbender Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Check out the twinkle in Mac's eyes! smile

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Posted By: battue Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Just listened to the speach. You saw baby steps, wait till she starts running. If she can take the heat the people are going to fall in love with her, on both sides of the fence.

I can't remember a VP candidate that has generated this much interest.

Battue
Posted By: 17ACKLEYBEE Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by muledeer
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by isaac
B....Sour grapes over another failed prediction,huh?



What prediction?

In any event, there's no sour grapes from me.

McCain may as well have picked a mannequin for his veep. Palin will have no impact on McCain's administration whatsoever.

She's just window dressing.


That's what Frank Murkowski thought too...clearly you are as big an idiot as he was...



kiss my ass


Well lets see it starts at the top of your head and runs to the botton of your feet which part?
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Being telling folks that chicks dig dead wolves, at least VP chicks..............

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Posted By: Bristoe Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by ironbender
Check out the twinkle in Mac's eyes! smile

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That's the look of the unbalanced.

You can see hundreds of examples of it at your local asylum.
Posted By: FOsteology Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Hear that screeching sound? That's the media slamming the brakes hard on their discussion of Obama's "transformative" speech last night and switching into full Palin-VP mode.

If nothing else, McCain has played the timing of this perfectly.

Someone needs to make a banner....

McCain/MILF 2008!!!! grin
Posted By: blinddog1 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
She is from a small town like many of us, she is a life member of the NRA, she has in her first term as Gov of AK stopped a lot of the wasteful spending and corruption, even taking on the head of her own party to do so. She is pro life, pro gun, pro alternative energy, and pro conservation.

As an aside the dems are already peeing themselves over her as the Rep VP pick, They have already started attacking her for of all things "lack of experiance". I hope they continue the petty attacks they will show even more how "out of touch" these eletists really are
Posted By: 1akhunter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I agree with Bristoe, my guess is the party took a look at her initially as window dressing and a way to get some women voters.


and then discovered something else, this girl has the goods, and she's what this country needs imo, her and her family.


she might have been looked at for all the wrong reasons, but she's made of the "right stuff" naval aviator or not.


imo she's the penicillin choice in politics, maybe an accident, but she'll help cure what ails us.


weird turn of events to even have her there, but it's proof to me


God still does bless America!
Posted By: 17ACKLEYBEE Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by ironbender
Check out the twinkle in Mac's eyes! smile

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I don't think it's twinkle it is one upmanship on Obama and he knows it. He's had to be waiting for this all week he just stole Christmas from the Grench! LOL

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Posted By: m1fan Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Impressive speech. Seems like she has the family of average Americans. Son in the military, child with Downs, working husband, NRA member. NOT...A HOT BAG OF AIR POLITICIAN WHO HAS THE GIFT OF GAB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted By: nemesis Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Just listened to Rush and he thinks Palin is a great choice.

That's good enough for me............
Posted By: 17ACKLEYBEE Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by nemesis
Just listened to Rush and he thinks Palin is a great choice.

That's good enough for me............


Now you have the leftys really upset and running LOL
Rush OMG what's next Ann Coulter LOL
Posted By: Longbob Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by ironbender
Check out the twinkle in Mac's eyes! smile

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That's the look of the unbalanced.

You can see hundreds of examples of it at your local asylum.


Look at the Bush White House. I would bet that Cheney influences more decisions than the Pres. Cheney has it all over Bush in the intelligence category. Not that I agree with the decisions, but I have felt that the VP has been running the show for the last two terms.

I think that McCain is even further gone mentally than Bush. Maybe we would see a repeat with Palin. If McCain wins, I will go on record that Palin will be our first female president.
Posted By: Popapi Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by jorgeI
I'm not happy...jorge
You shouldn't be Mr. Jorge...
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Stan V
Randy, Alaska gov ain't the world stage.......


You little states are so cute........

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Posted By: ironbender Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
That'd make a great avatar! wink
Posted By: 458 Lott Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I've heard some interesting comments from leftists on another forum. The sort of comments that would have them foaming at the mouth screaming sexism if hillary were in the passanger seat and they were hurled at her. The reason for those comments are clear, the left is scared. They were so smug that the election was in the bag with the country so disatisfied just waiting for the communist er leftist rulers to come in and seize power.

Let's face it, the election is a popularity contest. Asside from her good looks, she is a good speaker and comes across as someone you can trust. I also think those smug bastards on the left that think she's just a pretty face from a small town are going to find out she fairs just fine in a debate against a smug leftist yankee.
Posted By: m1fan Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I was going to reply to Bristoe but thought I have better things to do...Adios
Posted By: isaac Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Bristoe's realizing all his political GOP bloviating is becoming nothing more than a cute, off the beaten path minor irritant.

Games over B...start showing some respect for your new President!!
Posted By: Stan V Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Weak dude.....you can bet Palin wasn't chosen for the Alaska EC votes.
Posted By: slymule Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Bristoe YOUR WRONG - JUST ADMIT IT!!!!

She's got my vote and I'm one of those right wing guys that said "screw it, I'll stay home before I vote for McCain, he doesn't deserve to call himself a Republican". I was planning on voting 3rd party this year for the first time in my life. I've been a staunce CONSERVATIVE Republican my whole life, just couldn't stomach having to vote for McCain. Well he swung my 3rd party vote, and I've already had 3 good friends call me all excited about his pick - all of them were voting 3rd party this year for the first time in their lives also. So believe me, it WILL make a difference in the swing vote.

Hell, where can I find one of those bumper stickers!!! And this from a guy thats never bought a bumper sticker in his life, much less would stick one on his truck - someone get me 3 of them!!!
Posted By: OldCenterChurch Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Like I said,..he broke even with the pick.


Oh, I think you're mistaken! McCain's pick didn't just stir the pot; it turned it over in the floor! I too do not believe this snags all the pouting Clinton supporters, but what it might just do is stimulate the yawning conservative base and give some of the Clinton supporters a REASON. McCain's campaign needed a shot in the arm and this pick more than supplies that!

My bigoted azz wasn't voting for a supa brutha and a yankee anyway, so McCain could have chosen Kermit the Frog. This gal appears to be just what the GOP needs, a youthful feminine representative to conservative values!!
Posted By: ehunter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
This is huge remember we have 2 maybe 3 supreme court judges that will be replaced in the next 4 years. Also if McCain wins and is serrious about 4 years who better to run against Hillary or Obama??? I like this pick and she is a breath of fresh air.
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
She was picked so they could win, imagine that. Kind of like lawyers actually making money, will the wonders never end.
Posted By: blinddog1 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
If you look ahead four years, McCain will be to old for a second term, Palin would be the normal republican choice, Hillery may try running on the dem ticket again.If conservatives regain the House in two years, as I think they will. And, If things with the economy improve, as I think they will with out Obama in the White House. I doubt Hillery would have a chance against Palin. But this is just what iffing.
Right now, McCain has shown us all that he is a strategic Genuis. Palin is/was his best choice for a VP pick.
All the dems will do by attacking her experiance, is show themselves up, as the pathetic whiners they really are.
Posted By: Sassy Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Well now we know what McCain meant yesterday in his Obama congratulatory ad when he said "tomorrow it's back to business as usual". He had a bit of a surprise for Ole Obama. ROFL
Posted By: tzone Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
well she has two boys, so we know she has some patients.
Posted By: 17ACKLEYBEE Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by slymule
Bristoe YOUR WRONG - JUST ADMIT IT!!!!



Bristoe isn't going to admit anything. He has feel on his face in this thread so many times he looks like a pug.
Posted By: Stan V Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
It'll be hard to attack her, but the issue with me is 'what if' we lose McCain......that's all I'm saying. It's a huge chance.

Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I'm more concerned if McCain looses, it is even worse thinking about the other pair in there.......ymmv
Posted By: Sassy Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
A bigger question to worry about is 'what if we lose to Obama'. Now that worried me big time until today. Now I don't see it happening.
Posted By: Stan V Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I don't disagree with that, O is a disaster, but McCain had this won......before Palin.

It's awesome we trumped the dims, but she's still several pay grades up from newly elected state government to world issues......
Posted By: Cheyenne Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Good speech. Time to pull out the checkbook. I hope she studies foreign affairs in her spare time like SteveNO so she won't be starting from scratch. The Biden debate will be important. If she can nail it, it will be a rout in November.
Posted By: Longbob Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I wonder what they will now do with all of the bumper stickers "McCain. He sucks less?"
Posted By: Sassy Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Hillary will be buying them to pass out to all her friends.
Posted By: Everyday Hunter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Now, everyone is saying "O'bama who?" Last night, no one would have thought John McCain could have knocked O'bama off the stage so quickly. This was a masterful stroke, a chess move of the highest order. Last night McCain broadcast an advertisement that showed respect for O'bama on his night, while preparing to knock him out the next morning. His statement "tomorrow it's back to business as usual" set up a huge tidal swing. In return, O'bama's campaign only expresses disparagement toward Palin for coming from a small Alaska town. Pathetic.

As the days go by, Palin's credentials will emerge to make her a great choice for VP, with very wide appeal. Look for a post-convention bounce for McCain that O'bama was dreaming of.

Steve
Posted By: slymule Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Hell, I'm hoping he strokes out the first week after he takes the oath and is to disabled to stay in office. We can all only hope!

This country needs a Palin for the Presidency, we're all tired of the same old money grubbing lying politicians that have spent their whole life sucking on the government's teat.

Steelhead - WHERE'S THOSE BUMPER STICKERS!!!!!!!!! I WANT 3 - ONE FOR EACH OF MY TRUCKS, AND THE NEW WIFE WANTS ONE FOR HER SUBURBAN!
Posted By: hunter1960 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Originally Posted by Stan V
Randy, Alaska gov ain't the world stage.......


You little states are so cute........

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Population does matter, Moose, Bears, Caribou etc. don't vote. Nor does AK have the issues that the larger populated states do. That's great from a resident's view, but from a political experience view, her bag of tools, isn't as experienced as it would be in a more populated state. She's got to be thinking fifty states, and the world, versus one state.

I am glad of the decision, but she's got alot to learn. The duty of the VP is the Pres. of Congress. I do feel she's up to the challenge to learn, and us Republican's are proud of the choice.

I am going to go out this afternoon and do alittle politicing. I am a Poll Cpt. in my voting district, there isn't many of us Repub's in a Dem. controlled county. Even the "Yellow Dogs" aren't that big on Obammy, it might be different this year.
Posted By: husqvarna Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I delayed a trip to the range to hear her speak. I was impressed!
Posted By: Longbob Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
The Alaska folks liked her running their state. So, I am fine with her running my country. If they like her then that is good enough for me.

I have found that the general Alaskan's values align pretty well with mine.
Posted By: Stan V Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
She certainly sounds conservative.....that in itself is refreshing. She must have connections in Texas, or dated a Texan once.....and is hoping to make her way back to D.C. before all the Texans leave. grin!
Posted By: Longbob Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Oh, one more thing. Her so called "lack of experience" is a plus for me. I'm none too impressed with the ones running the show that have a lot of experience.
Posted By: 1akhunter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I hire folks for a living.

I've long said give me someone of character, they can be taught what they need to know. character is a hard thing to teach, I've no doubt Obama is a smart man, but I don't believe I could teach him what he needs to know in a lifetime. YMMV


imagine she'd be the first to admit she's got a huge learning curve
ahead of her, but from what I've seen so far, she's a girl willing to do her homework.
Posted By: jorgeI Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Nothing against Palin,...but I don't think she'll make a difference in the voting.

McCain is obviously nominating a woman in order to siphon the disgruntled Hillary voters over to his camp, but she's not the type that will appeal to those.

Basically, she's window dressing,...and will only appeal to those who are already McCain supporters.

McCain broke even with his pick instead of gaining an edge.


Bristoe: Your political situational awareness is on par with your class; a total void. Nothing against Palin? we can add disingenous to your repertoire as well. You must enjoy being wrong so often...jorge
Posted By: isaac Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Steelhead
She was picked so they could win, imagine that. Kind of like lawyers actually making money, will the wonders never end.

________________________________

I better make more money now that another fairly prominent Alaskan is coming to DC to elevate his sophistication and stature.

I'm guessin',I'm gonna be seeing a huge influx of Alaskan social climbers coming to my neighborhood in the near future!!

Posted By: isaac Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Who messed up the thread bandwidth??
Posted By: jorgeI Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by isaac
but I don't think she'll make a difference in the voting.
___________________

According to blogging sites and the enormous amount of e-mails Fox, alone, is getting, she's already made a difference.



Anyone who watches FOX is already a McCain supporter.

Like I said,..he broke even with the pick.


Wrong again. It is a FACT, indpendently verified, that the Fox news audience is 39% democrap. jorge
Posted By: Longbob Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Maybe she will slow down on having the kids since the nights aren't so long in DC. smile
Posted By: Scorpion Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I'd say I'm pleased with McCain's choice for VP, the only two persons I particularly cared for were Palin and Jindal. I understand she may not be as well known as some but, she's a step in the right direction for the Republican party. A true conservative, imagine that. I really think she'll help connect the GOP with younger voters, she bridges the gap between Father Time and Generation Y.
Posted By: jorgeI Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Borealis Bob
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by Ivan
Originally Posted by jorgeI
I'm not happy...jorge


What are your reservations?


She's too inexperienced & too young and believes in man-made global warming. Also, I just have issues with women as mothers/C-in-C. I would have preferred Romney over both, but I can certainly live with it and I certainly hope I'm proven wrong on my concerns.jorge


Your concerned that someone might think twice about committing our youth to combat? Just maybe, ya know, think matters through a bit?

BTW, being a mother didn't keep Maggie Thatcher from sending her boys to the Falklands and kicking ass.


Maggie Thatcher was one in a million. I'm a firm believer in the "Bell Curve" and I'm just not that comfortable with emotion-based decision-making. And like I've said, I hope I'm proven wrong. jorge
Posted By: TNrifleman Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Sarah Palin is an excellent choice for VP by McCain. Things are gonna get real interesting...
Posted By: isaac Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
You don't think Obammy's team will be sending the brothers to Alakska in Sept/October to try and get some dirt on Sarah,do you?

It gets cold by then,right??
Posted By: jorgeI Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Jorge
"Well as a CWO in the shallow water civilian navy, it doesn't take much to impress you."

As someone without personal military experience (my father retired as an AF bird col) but with much experience with CG activities I think your comment is chickenshit.

My experiences with AF jet jockeys have been "special" and not impressive in any positive way...
art


Try again Ace. I'm no AF "jet jockey" and with all due deference to my USAF brethren,they're a hell of a lot more impressive than whatever the [bleep] you do...jorge
Posted By: ruraldoc Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08


I just got the news,a bold stroke that will put a real woman with conservative values on the ticket.

How can we not be better off now?

She is everything Obama is not,his superior in every category,courage,race relations,character,and values.

McCain should serve for four years and then step aside to let her take the oval office.

God Bless America and God Bless Mrs. Palin,I hope my daughter grows up to be like her. Contrast her as a role model with Mrs. O.

Now lets get off our butts and our checkbooks and send them some cash so they can put the left out of buisness in this one.
Posted By: 17ACKLEYBEE Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Bristoes left the building he must be over on the left wing blogs licking his wounds.
Posted By: jorgeI Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Bristoe
McCain's going to have a difficult time trying to play off of Obama's inexperience now.

His running mate is the governor of a state with a total population about the size of the metropolitan area of a medium sized eastern city.


First you say she's "window dressing" and now you try to ding her on her inexperience. You must be on your second bottle. BTW, the population of Alaskais only about 100k smaller than Delaware, yet I didn't see squawk about Biden. Oh wait I forgot, you're a democrap...jorge
Posted By: bearstalker Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I guess I'll vote for McCain now. He made a good choice.
Posted By: Violator22 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Well, now I have a reason to vote for McCain where before I didn't. She is a Conservative. Thats what it needs. Les
Posted By: jorgeI Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Popapi
Originally Posted by jorgeI
I'm not happy...jorge
You shouldn't be Mr. Jorge...


But if you read the rest of my posts, I am in complete support. Tell you what, just raid that Union Chest of yours and how about a "C" note that McCain crushes the Marxist? jorge
Posted By: m1fan Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Didnt take long to update the webpage http://www.johnmccain.com/

Posted By: EvilTwin Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Popapi
Originally Posted by jorgeI
I'm not happy...jorge
You shouldn't be Mr. Jorge...

Popapi, Jorge will adjust quite well as this expedition unfolds. YOU however are going to have to have ALL sharp objects taken away from you. Your posting yesterday indicates that you are going to vote for Osama Obama along with that little scrunge GPA. You KNOW that you are about to get yer asses kicked big time and that Obama will be relegated to running for dogcatcher in Chicago grin.
Posted By: MPetrov Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I�ve lived in Alaska for forty-two years and don�t remember any governor who is as well respected as Sarah Palin. What she might lack in experience will be made up in integrity.
I�ve only seen her twice and talked to her once, both times at a gun show.

"Alaska... Where men are men and women win the Iditarod".
Posted By: isaac Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
My Northern Va campaign work will intensify with this selection.

This will put a huge crimp on the Va numbers. I can see the Va polling numbers significantly changing by the end of the holiday weekend!
Posted By: Hindsite Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Calvin
I see her as the closest to "one of us" that it could be. She shoots, hunts, fishes, is conservative, and hasn't been ruined by washington. A woman like Palin is a breath of fresh air for a conservative guy like myself.


100% spot on!


Hillary must be fuming over this choice and her supporters may think twice about voting for Obammy! grin


This was a calculated move to throw Obammy off his game and I'll bet he is concerned, he certainly should be.

I'd like to see a debate between Palin and Biden in the near future!


Biden to the woodshed! smile

Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Much about leadership is allowing those around you to succeed. Setting them up for success and allowing them to be empowered. When the time comes for tough decisions the leader makes them but the leader is also surrounded with good people. They are in a position to pick the people around them, the people that will make daily decisions, that will lead.

I'm in a position where I not only enforce policy, I create policy. I haven't had the opportunity to pick the folks that work for me, but I have allowed them to succeed. You want people around you that will make decisions and they will make these decisions knowing you are behind them 100%. We, as a unit, have achieved some wonderful records and it isn't me, it's the wonderful men in my charge that have done it all. I ensure they have what they need to accomplish their job and buffer them the massive amount of 'stuff' that comes along.

I'm fortunate to have had these men in my charge, I can only imagine how much success someone (the President of instances) can have when they are allowed to PICK the people around them. Of course not all people in leadership positions are leaders and it's their inability to pick correctly and foster those in their charge is what frightens me (Obama for instance).

It's fun watching people with no leadership abilities discuss picking a leader, it's scary watching a person with no leadership qualities in a position of leadership.


Posted By: Enrique Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I was gonna vote for Mickey Mouse! Now I will vote for McCain/Palin.
I started druelling and my wife asked me if I wanted a VPILF sticker.
Not only is she easy on the eyes, but looking at her bio on that wikipedia thing, I like where she stands.

My wife asked what I wanted in a POTUS and VP, here's what I said:
Someone who cares about the Vets and can handle the war
Someone who believes Marriage is between a man and a woman, but is open minded
Someone who believes a womans right is important, but a childs life/right is more important
Someone who is gonna look after us middle class, and do right by us
Someone who understands no matter how alternative we get with energy, we will still need oil.
Someone who is not affraid to take on big business
Someone who is not affraid to say God or Jesus and believes what I do
Some who cares about my right as an American to carry and own a firearms.
Someone who is not affraid to go across the isle and get things done.

McCain met some of those, but Palin accordind to her bio meets the ones he don't.

I am in love and energized once again about the election. And to top it off, if McCain wins, she'll spoil it for Hillary and Osama.

Kique
Posted By: BLG Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Wonder why we haven't heard from our teenage Obammy supporter....GPA? He must be in the basement crying over his sippy cup of milk.

GO PALIN!!!!!!


Clyde
Posted By: GreatWaputi Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
VPILF.... TFF!!!!
Posted By: fish30ought6 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
OK, I'll bite. What's VPILF? I know it's gonna be crude but I just have to know ...
Posted By: jorgeI Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Much about leadership is allowing those around you to succeed. Setting them up for success and allowing them to be empowered. When the time comes for tough decisions the leader makes them but the leader is also surrounded with good people. They are in a position to pick the people around them, the people that will make daily decisions, that will lead.

I'm in a position where I not only enforce policy, I create policy. I haven't had the opportunity to pick the folks that work for me, but I have allowed them to succeed. You want people around you that will make decisions and they will make these decisions knowing you are behind them 100%. We, as a unit, have achieved some wonderful records and it isn't me, it's the wonderful men in my charge that have done it all. I ensure they have what they need to accomplish their job and buffer them the massive amount of 'stuff' that comes along.

I'm fortunate to have had these men in my charge, I can only imagine how much success someone (the President of instances) can have when they are allowed to PICK the people around them. Of course not all people in leadership positions are leaders and it's their inability to pick correctly and foster those in their charge is what frightens me (Obama for instance).

It's fun watching people with no leadership abilities discuss picking a leader, it's scary watching a person with no leadership qualities in a position of leadership.





Very well said and 100% on the mark. jorge
Posted By: Big Sky Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
McCain just sewed up my vote with his nomination for VP. I absolutely hated this November's choices up until now.
Posted By: BLG Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by fish30ought6
OK, I'll bite. What's VPILF? I know it's gonna be crude but I just have to know ...



Vice
President
I'd
Like to
F@#$


It is crude, but funny.


Clyde
Posted By: Sitka deer Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
jorge
"Try again Ace. I'm no AF "jet jockey" and with all due deference to my USAF brethren,they're a hell of a lot more impressive than whatever the [bleep] you do..."

Should have been more clear on that statement... Arrogant airplane drivers impress me none and only gave an example of the many I have had contact with and seen operate outside their narrow glass-driven arcade game.

I should have realized your true motivation for hating the "shallow water navy." Guessing their drug interdiction program bothers you none... Hmmmmm.

Your lack of knowledge or respect for my experiences and results neither surprises nor concerns me.
art
Posted By: Klikitarik Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
When she (Palin) became Guv I put her picture on the wall along with Stevens' and Young's etc. It was kind of a surprise to see the teenage boys oggle the pic and actually give nice comments.

But for all her physical attractions, it is a very refreshing surprise to hear what she says when she opens her mouth. She is definitely not an airhead. She is quite on the ball and will make, I think, a good running mate for McC. (I'd sure rather have inexperience in the #2 seat rather than the #1. And that does not mean that her relative inexperience in "big" politics is as huge an issue as is Obies')
Posted By: Delta Hunter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I'm beginning to like this McCain guy.
Posted By: badger Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I'll take it!

grin
Posted By: Qtip Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I'll be praying up a storm for McCain/Palin to crush the Commies this fall. We need to put an end to these hate American liberal radicals that have been screwing this country for decades. Seems like the Dems enjoy running America's worst for the top spot.

jorge,

Go easy on Bristoe or you will hamper his recovery back to sanity. LOL!

Qtip
Soli Deo Gloria!
Posted By: Mississippi Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Great VP choice. Brilliant timing. Totaly hot, smart, athletic, classy lady.
Posted By: FVA Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Much about leadership is allowing those around you to succeed. Setting them up for success and allowing them to be empowered. When the time comes for tough decisions the leader makes them but the leader is also surrounded with good people. They are in a position to pick the people around them, the people that will make daily decisions, that will lead.

I'm in a position where I not only enforce policy, I create policy. I haven't had the opportunity to pick the folks that work for me, but I have allowed them to succeed. You want people around you that will make decisions and they will make these decisions knowing you are behind them 100%. We, as a unit, have achieved some wonderful records and it isn't me, it's the wonderful men in my charge that have done it all. I ensure they have what they need to accomplish their job and buffer them the massive amount of 'stuff' that comes along.

I'm fortunate to have had these men in my charge, I can only imagine how much success someone (the President of instances) can have when they are allowed to PICK the people around them. Of course not all people in leadership positions are leaders and it's their inability to pick correctly and foster those in their charge is what frightens me (Obama for instance).

It's fun watching people with no leadership abilities discuss picking a leader, it's scary watching a person with no leadership qualities in a position of leadership.




That is the fact in a nutshell. Good people coupled with Palin's moral compass will have us in good hands should McCain succumb to age and Sarah has to take over the reigns. If only I was as well written as Steelhead(grin)
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Like Sarah, I'm not just a pretty face.....
Posted By: Ivan Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Is it just me or does Palin kinda look like the character Elaine from Seinfeld???
Posted By: EvilTwin Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
grinHowinhell could Jorge hamper Bristoe's return to sanity when he was never IN such a state grin grin I also get the immpression that today Bristoe is GENUINELY mad. Usually he has a flip comment to make but he made one that is a very angry one. No guidance from anyone forthcoming for him I suppose. grin
Posted By: Ivan Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by GreatWaputi
VPILF.... TFF!!!!


LOL! smile smile smile
Posted By: HawkI Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
If she's for drilling in ANWAR I can't wait to hear that debate!

Good move. She's more appealing than McCain himself (in more ways than one). I was afraid he'd go Romney or some of the many 'crats (like Biden) that both parties have.

Posted By: Otter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
You've no doubt heard of a MILF (Mother I'd Like to . . .), Well Palin is going to be the VP . . . You fill in the rest. Yes, rude and crude, but . . .

That aside (and off the point) . . . I have been reading what I can about her since her introduction as the VP nominee, and so far I like what I have read. She fills some voids in Mc's profile and she's an NRA Life member to boot. Can't do any better than a woman who likes, and knows how to use, guns. Emily Proctor has been my "want to know better" (mostly because that's about all I can do anymore - want to) pretty face, now I think I'd like to get to know more about Sarah Palin (with all due respect to her husband, Todd). BTW - Happy anniversary to them, #20 today . . .
Posted By: Mississippi Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I would call her a MILF, but I dont want to be disrespectful.
Posted By: Cheyenne Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by m1fan
Didnt take long to update the webpage http://www.johnmccain.com/



Hit it with a donation and create a measurable bump! I did.
Posted By: panhandle Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Yea, this time I had a feeling he was really pissed.
Posted By: Bighorn Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Wow!
Where have you Alaskans been hiding this Palin?
She hunts, fishes, is conservative, pro-drilling, and quite easy on the eyes, to boot.

I can't wait for the Dummycrats to start whining about her 'lack of experience' - seems that is what their Presidential candidate has in spades.....
Posted By: grouseman Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I think McCain just stole all the "change" out of Obama's pocket!

This woman exemplefies 'change' far more than Obambi does.
Young.
Female.
Not a Washington type.
NOT a politician.
Small business experience.
Not obliged to anybody.
She has actually RUN a government, rather than sat on the sidelines and critiqued every move by others.

Damned good choice, if she turns out to be half as good as her c.v. reads.
Posted By: Everyday Hunter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Bighorn
Wow!
Where have you Alaskans been hiding this Palin?
She hunts, fishes, is conservative, pro-drilling, and quite easy on the eyes, to boot.

I can't wait for the Dummycrats to start whining about her 'lack of experience' - seems that is what their Presidential candidate has in spades.....

What I can't wait for is film footage of the Secret Service following her around on her next moose or caribou hunt. laugh

Steve
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Foreign policy, we are bordered by Canada and Russia is just a stones throw away. She deals with both nations.
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Plus DSMF's.........
Posted By: hunter1960 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Much about leadership is allowing those around you to succeed. Setting them up for success and allowing them to be empowered. When the time comes for tough decisions the leader makes them but the leader is also surrounded with good people. They are in a position to pick the people around them, the people that will make daily decisions, that will lead.

I'm in a position where I not only enforce policy, I create policy. I haven't had the opportunity to pick the folks that work for me, but I have allowed them to succeed. You want people around you that will make decisions and they will make these decisions knowing you are behind them 100%. We, as a unit, have achieved some wonderful records and it isn't me, it's the wonderful men in my charge that have done it all. I ensure they have what they need to accomplish their job and buffer them the massive amount of 'stuff' that comes along.

I'm fortunate to have had these men in my charge, I can only imagine how much success someone (the President of instances) can have when they are allowed to PICK the people around them. Of course not all people in leadership positions are leaders and it's their inability to pick correctly and foster those in their charge is what frightens me (Obama for instance).

It's fun watching people with no leadership abilities discuss picking a leader, it's scary watching a person with no leadership qualities in a position of leadership.




++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
As i stated, McCain and his advisors made a good decision. She'll come up to speed in time. I do wish she had more experience, but you play the cards you were dealt. I wished it would of been a TN. Pres and a AK VP.
Posted By: bearstalker Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Like Sarah, I'm not just a pretty face.....


grin
Posted By: savage24 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I want a yard sign like this:


MCCAIN
PALIN '08

grin
Posted By: Foxbat Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
[Linked Image]
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Posted By: daveyreka Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I think this is the greatest news I have heard since the entire election process started months ago.

Since MLK gave a speech using "I have a dream" all those many years ago, I think Obamma needs to start drafting a concession speech that is best titled "I Had A Nightmare and her name was Sarah Palin". I think with Palin on the ticket, the republicans will see the polls change drasticlly in their favor.

Rush Limbaugh is having a ball today on his show with this new development. I am loving it totally.

YES, I WILL VOTE REPUBLICAN.

Posted By: Everyday Hunter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Thinking of the VP matchup of Biden vs. Palin, I didn't think Biden was a good choice for O'bama, and I think he is even a worse choice now.

I think Biden was chosen in the expectation that McCain would pick Romney or Pawlenty because he could beat up on them. Palin's selection changes that equation considerably.

Steve
Posted By: jorgeI Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Sitka deer
jorge
"Try again Ace. I'm no AF "jet jockey" and with all due deference to my USAF brethren,they're a hell of a lot more impressive than whatever the [bleep] you do..."

Should have been more clear on that statement... Arrogant airplane drivers impress me none and only gave an example of the many I have had contact with and seen operate outside their narrow glass-driven arcade game.

I should have realized your true motivation for hating the "shallow water navy." Guessing their drug interdiction program bothers you none... Hmmmmm.

Your lack of knowledge or respect for my experiences and results neither surprises nor concerns me.
art


Art: Maybe you shouldn't have stuck your nose where it didn't belong. Steelhead gave me a shot and I shot back, but you felt compelled to come to his defense. Nowhere did I say I "hated" the USCG and it's also obvious you are in complete ignorance of the inter-service rivalries and quips we've traded throughout the centuries. I've logged hundreds of flight hours working with the USCG and CJTG4 doing drug interdiction. Your "glass arcade' comment speaks volumes to your stovepipe level of knowledge. I know what you do, and your lack of respect for my profession, experiences and accomplishments neither surprise nor concern me. jorge
Posted By: Everyday Hunter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
The new Bull Moose party:

MCCAIN
PALIN '08

Steve
Posted By: BOWHUNR Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Why do I keep hearing a line from the movie Forrest Gump in my head??

"Sorry I ruined your black panther party".

[Linked Image]

Mike
Posted By: magnumb Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I'm more than a bit enthusiastic about Palin's addition to the ticket. Well grounded, well spoken, well versed in the ways of government, outdoorswoman by all accounts, lifetime NRA member, a spark plug by all accounts, takes no BS from anyone, great family person even with all her duties and responsibilities,.........Biden can't look forward to their debate, but if so, I'd venture a guess she'll at least match his responses, tit for tat...............oops!.

Does she remind anyone else of Tina Fey on Saturday Night Live? Always liked her........

Good choice IMHO.....time will tell.

Posted By: Stan V Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
That McCain picked a strong conservative and a female to boot, speaks volumes of what he's thinking of while running this country. You can count on Supremes that know the constitution and you can count on Putin and the boys to know that the white house hasn't change that much with regard to dictators that want to start chit....in other words, 'don't start no chit, there won't be no chit.'

Palin has a lot to learn and may already have a jump start on most of it, surely Alaska gets the news?
Posted By: shreck Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by tbear99
she will be hands down best looking vp in history


I don't know, Burr was kinda cute grin
Ina John Edwards sort of way... grin
Posted By: Stan V Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by BOWHUNR
Why do I keep hearing a line from the movie Forrest Gump in my head??

"Sorry I ruined your black panther party".

Mike



Excellent!
Posted By: Ivan Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
This is an interesting site with loads of factoids and newsreels

http://www.vpilf.com/
Posted By: 17ACKLEYBEE Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Everyday Hunter
Thinking of the VP matchup of Biden vs. Palin, I didn't think Biden was a good choice for O'bama, and I think he is even a worse choice now.

I think Biden was chosen in the expectation that McCain would pick Romney or Pawlenty because he could beat up on them. Palin's selection changes that equation considerably.

Steve


Never under estimate the big mouth on Joe Biden. He's had both of his feet in it several times over the years. I look to our buddy Joe to do it again and to sign the final death stroke to the Obama/Biden ticket.

At least if they lose bad enough the conservatives may get their chance to throw the left out of the party it would be a real win win for America.

Have to say I was tickled to no end when Obama choose the mouth.
Posted By: Leanwolf Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Wasn't there a famous western teeeveee series called "HAVE GUN, WILL TRAVEL. WIRE PALIN, D.C." wink


L.W.
Posted By: hunter1960 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Don't forget to vote as many Repub. US House and Senate members in as you can, in your local state elections.

Don't send McCain and Palin to DC, with a Dem. controlled House and Senate. We don't want to send them, with their hands tied behind their backs. It'll be the same old stuff, with two Repub's in the WH, and no power on the floors of Congress.
Posted By: Barak's Womn Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Stan V
I'd hate to be one of her children, most mothers with 5 have different priorities.

What an absolutely ignorant thing to say! But I suppose I'll read further and hope some others called you to task. mad

Penny
Posted By: Huntr Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I am sooooo very happy with McCain's choice!!!!! Wooohooooo!!
Posted By: Barak's Womn Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Basically, she's window dressing,...and will only appeal to those who are already McCain supporters.

I disagree. I wasn't planning on voting for either Obama or McCain, and now I will probably vote for McCain... because of Sarah Palin.

I may be the only one... but then again, I may not...

Penny
Posted By: SAcharlie Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Interesting Penny; whats your thinking that gives ya the push?
Posted By: Pugs Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Huntr
I am sooooo very happy with McCain's choice!!!!! Wooohooooo!!


I think there were better choices out there but have to admit this is a little bit inspired. Overall, the only policy that bothers me about the McCain/Palin campaign is the belief in man-made climate change. I have high hopes that is a belief that will not be born out in policy.

Other than that, I'm assuming the sound I heard in the car today was the high pitched scream of Hillary going high order. grin

It'll be a pleasure to vote in Nov.
Posted By: Barak's Womn Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Palin will have no impact on McCain's administration whatsoever.

She's just window dressing.

Why is it that when a woman is attractive, men just assume that she has nothing else to offer? This kind of attitude just makes me see red faster than anything... mad

You guys wonder why Hound Girl resisted so long posting pictures of herself, and why Shooting Lady still doesn't post any? It's because they're attractive enough that most men won't see (or want to see) beyond the outer looks and realize that they're women with brains.

I'm far from a feminist, but I get so angry when I see men simply assuming that because a woman is attractive, that's all she's got...

Penny
Posted By: jorgeI Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Pugs
Originally Posted by Huntr
I am sooooo very happy with McCain's choice!!!!! Wooohooooo!!


I think there were better choices out there but have to admit this is a little bit inspired. Overall, the only policy that bothers me about the McCain/Palin campaign is the belief in man-made climate change. I have high hopes that is a belief that will not be born out in policy.

Other than that, I'm assuming the sound I heard in the car today was the high pitched scream of Hillary going high order. grin

It'll be a pleasure to vote in Nov.


Pugs my friend, my sentiments EXACTLY and if you look at my second or third post, that is what I said. I do still have other issues, but I am fully behind the ticket now. jorge
Posted By: crossfireoops Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Is HG OK,.....?

We haven't heard from that wild-woman for a while.

"Steely" said , " It's fun watching people with no leadership abilities discuss picking a leader, it's scary watching a person with no leadership qualities in a position of leadership."


......Marcinko never got it any better in his various treatises on leadership.

Well done

GTC

Posted By: Otter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Barak's Womn
Originally Posted by Stan V
I'd hate to be one of her children, most mothers with 5 have different priorities.

What an absolutely ignorant thing to say! But I suppose I'll read further and hope some others called you to task. mad

Penny


Good point, Penny. When our son was 14 and our daughter 9, my wife went back to college to work on her bachellor's degree. She took 2 night classes per semester for ten years, plus some summer classes. We talked about it extensively before she started back to college, knowing that we as a family were going to have to make sacrifices, and that I was going to be "Mr Mom" in many respects for quite a while. All this while she worked full time (I did, too) in a very time demanding mid-management position at a Fortune 500 company. Both our kids graduated HS in very good standing. My bride graduated with honors with a business degree the year after our daughter graduated from HS. I was never more proud of any of my bride's accomplishments than the day she walked across the platform and received her diploma. It (working a demanding job and raising a family) can, and has been done by many women, men and families. Todd Palin has to be one of the most proud husbands in the USA today - and very rightly so.
Posted By: jorgeI Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
So you're voting for her solely on the fact she's a woman? jorge
Posted By: EvilTwin Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
.....on the other hand Penny, there are those of us who are excited to have conservative women around who like guns and are also HOT besides. Sarah fulfills these requirements perfectly as do HoundGirl and SL (who we haven't heard from for a while). We already know that you are qualified. Winning bets all around.
Posted By: Ramblin_Razorback Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Nothing against Palin,...but I don't think she'll make a difference in the voting.

McCain is obviously nominating a woman in order to siphon the disgruntled Hillary voters over to his camp, but she's not the type that will appeal to those.

Basically, she's window dressing,...and will only appeal to those who are already McCain supporters.

McCain broke even with his pick instead of gaining an edge.


Bristoe,

You're wrong because you are focused on the wrong issues. The Palin pick was much more about turnout in November than about pulling in undecided voters. There was the potential for a lot of conservatives sitting the election out if McCain had picked a liberal/moderate for VP. I'm glad someone talked some sense into McCain and his handlers so that he chose a conservative for VP.
Posted By: WyoJoe Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by isaac
You don't think Obammy's team will be sending the brothers to Alakska in Sept/October to try and get some dirt on Sarah,do you?


I am not a betting man but if I was I would put a years pay on them having already done it. They probably have been digging on each of the potential candidates for quite some time now.
Posted By: 458 Lott Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I understand the sentiment that there were better choices out there to fill the slot.

But there was absolutely no better choice for winning the election.

I think the country will be quite suprised when they get a chance to find out who she is, and how well she speaks.
Posted By: StubbleDuck Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Stan V
So, Palin is an Alaskan stud?


Noooo ..... And that's Ms '[b]Studette Vice-President' [/b]to you! grin
Posted By: Everyday Hunter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
From what I've been reading on another forum (one that is clearly more hostile to the Palin selection), the McCain campaign needs to create opportunities for Palin to talk about her experience in concrete terms -- something O'bama has done very little of.

She needs to bring up specific examples of how she fought corruption, how she made difficult choices, how she reformed government, how she opposed her own party, and how she governed despite her 'hotness.' (I'm sure she'll do a better job than I can.)

Steve
Posted By: DesertSandman Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Sassy
Well now we know what McCain meant yesterday in his Obama congratulatory ad when he said "tomorrow it's back to business as usual". He had a bit of a surprise for Ole Obama. ROFL


Boy did he ever!! No wonder he was smiling as he was, he had his finger on the Bomb release button!! smirk

I been watching some of the Dem Female political annalists, they're studdering/stammering like their Granny-Panties are all bunched up! Miss-speaking their sentences like they're reading off a dyslexic teleprompter grin

They've even gone so far as to attack the music that was played when Governor Palin approached the podium. They referred to is the "Rocky" theme, when in actuality is was sound byte from the Movie "Rudy".
Here's the music. Crank up the volume on your speakers!
http://www.moviemusic.com/audio/rudy_10.mp3
Posted By: Southerntier8 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I woke this morning with the fear that McCain had picked Lieberman. So glad that he threw us a bone instead of sticking us in the eye again. I'm back on board and will be happy to vote come November.
Posted By: Cheyenne Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I thought Van Halen at the end was a nice touch.
Posted By: The_Real_Hawkeye Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by 2ndwind
Here is a Palin ad that features her firing an AR 15.... I'm guessing this is a first too.

http://michellemalkin.com/
The only thing I don't like about the ad is the voice of William Kristol giving high praise to Palin. Makes me think twice about her.
Posted By: OlyWa Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
After hearing her speak I'm not so sure she was the best choice. Easy on the eyes, but hard on the ears. I realize this is very shallow of me, but damn her voice grates on me...
Posted By: BMT Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Barak's Womn
Why is it that when a woman is attractive, men just assume that she has nothing else to offer?


Becuse we stop thinking once we got to "HOT".

I'm surprised you ain't figured that out yet.

BMT
Posted By: Stan V Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Did I see someone compare a mom of 2 going back to college with Palin becoming the VP and having the same grind?

And as an aside, when ugly women are spouting off I generally look for a dim meeting.....and does it bother any of the females on this board that Palin was chosen to capture women voters, first and foremost?
Posted By: The_Real_Hawkeye Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Hawk, you just can't stand it can't you? He's a Naval Aviator, and a graduate from the USNA. I don't know what your bona-fides are, but I'll put McCain's up against yours anyday. jorge
Hey, I'm voting for the guy, and think he made a good VP pick. Hell, I'd ten times rather have her president than him. What's your problem? You a super McCainiac or something?

PS I measure a man's smarts more by where he stands on the important issues than by which schools he went to. YMMV.
Posted By: Longbob Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by olywa
After hearing her speak I'm not so sure she was the best choice. Easy on the eyes, but hard on the ears. I realize this is very shallow of me, but damn her voice grates on me...


You had on the sound? whistle
Posted By: Barak's Womn Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by SAcharlie
Interesting Penny; whats your thinking that gives ya the push?

She is for the same things that I am for: pro-gun, pro-life, conservative. She seems to have a high level of integrity and capability.

It's about time that someone (a woman) showed the men of this world that just because a woman is attractive doesn't mean that's the only gift that God gave her.

About 20+ years ago, I served a stint as my university's Director of Academic Computing. Back then we had a big mainframe computer (VAX) and one day a repairman was there. I entered the computer room and asked what was wrong with the VAX. The guy took one look at me and said, "It's broken." I didn't know whether to laugh or smack him. That kind of patronizing, condescending attitude is all too common. You've never experienced it? That's because you're not a woman trying to make it in a man's world.

Happily, right after he said that, the Director of the Computer Center (who is Barak's Dad laugh ), came in. He saw me and the repairman, and said to the repairman, "Oh, let me introduce you to Dr. XXX, our Director of Academic Computing." I thought the repairman was going to wet himself.

Penny
Posted By: Sassy Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Give her time olywa, I'll bet by next week her oratory ability will knock the ball out of the park. She has some big shoes to fill and I'm sure she is a much better shot than Cheney.
Posted By: Everyday Hunter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Her Christian faith will be made into an issue. You heard it here first.

Steve
Posted By: isaac Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
It's about time that someone (a woman) showed the men of this world that just because a woman is attractive doesn't mean that's the only gift that God gave her.
_____________________________________________

I'll volunteer as one of the gifts!
Posted By: Barak's Womn Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by jorgeI
So you're voting for her solely on the fact she's a woman? jorge

Not at all... As I just stated in a post I hadn't written yet when you posted yours... she's pro-gun, pro-life, and conservative. That will get my vote whether you're man, woman, white, pink, or polka dot...

Penny
Posted By: Stan V Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Have to laugh at anyone thinking, if they're really thinking this, that Mrs. Palin can fill Cheney's shoes.....she's a female, but she's not Wonder Woman.

Ma'am, you really don't think Mrs. Palin is capable of Cheney like management?
Posted By: Longbob Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Everyday Hunter
Her Christian faith will become an issue. You heard it here first.

Steve


In what way?
Posted By: wldthg Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
On the other side of the fence --Old Bill is wondering where was Sara when he had to pick a VP and Ted says he would have made it across that bridge with her. Web
Posted By: gotlost Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
SH Fine were I can Get Those Sticker, After 30 years of Voting for who sucks less I can Vote for a team that is the best.



Posted By: RufusG Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Stan V
you really don't think Mrs. Palin is capable of Cheney like management?


Like managing to get us in a war that destroyed his boss's presidency?
Posted By: Barak's Womn Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by DesertSandman
Here's the music. Crank up the volume on your speakers!
http://www.moviemusic.com/audio/rudy_10.mp3

It sounds grand and panoramic and majestic, just like Alaska! Perfect music!

Penny
Posted By: RickyD Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Quote
I'm far from a feminist, but I get so angry when I see men simply assuming that because a woman is attractive, that's all she's got...
More the reason to find out what else she has!
Posted By: Otter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Stan V
Did I see someone compare a mom of 2 going back to college with Palin becoming the VP and having the same grind?


Geez, Stan, what I was trying to say was that not every woman these days feels the need to be barefoot, pregnant and bringing you a beer . . . Maybe not the same grind, but a grind none the less.

Bet you get a whole different story than most when you read a book.
Posted By: pumpgun Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I found it interesting how delighted the female reporters were this morning talking about her being the VP pick. You could tell that they really approved. I called my 80+ year old aunt this morning to get her reaction and she was also delighted. tom
Posted By: crittergetter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
From my experience a GOOD leader doesn't have to know everything about the job,you surround yourself with the people that help make the choices that's GOOD for all.I'm VERY VERY HAPPY WITH HIS CHOICE.
Posted By: Stan V Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Hey, we got another one!

Stay in the weeds!!!
Posted By: Popapi Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by Ivan
Originally Posted by jorgeI
I'm not happy...jorge


What are your reservations?


She's too inexperienced & too young and believes in man-made global warming. Also, I just have issues with women as mothers/C-in-C. I would have preferred Romney over both, but I can certainly live with it and I certainly hope I'm proven wrong on my concerns.jorge
Mr Jorge your doggone right, but she is a PRETTY SONAFAGUN NOW.... Hey our bet is still on right??!!!
Posted By: shreck Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Quote
Have to laugh at anyone thinking, if they're really thinking this, that Mrs. Palin can fill Cheney's shoes


Has she shot anyone in the face yet? grin

Great pick!
I can't wait to see the VP debates.
Posted By: jorgeI Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
No Hawk, I'm no McCainaniac, but what I was trying to point out is the fact you can't be THAT stupid and accomplished what he's done. An engineeering degree fron USNA, plus having scored high enough in flight training to get single seat jets is no small feat. jorge
Posted By: Sitka deer Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Palin is a micromanager and will have to unlearn that...
Posted By: The_Real_Hawkeye Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by isaac
B....Sour grapes over another failed prediction,huh?



What prediction?

In any event, there's no sour grapes from me.

McCain may as well have picked a mannequin for his veep. Palin will have no impact on McCain's administration whatsoever.

She's just window dressing.
You're not thinking about this the right way. Conservatives are now more likley to vote for McCain, not because of McCain (who makes most conservatives puke), but because they are far-sighted and are looking at 2012.
Posted By: RickyD Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by RufusG
Originally Posted by Stan V
you really don't think Mrs. Palin is capable of Cheney like management?


Like managing to get us in a war that destroyed his boss's presidency?
Destroyed it? Ahhh....there's that little re-election thing that might contradict your contention.
Posted By: Everyday Hunter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Longbob
Originally Posted by Everyday Hunter
Her Christian faith will become an issue. You heard it here first.

Steve


In what way?

I can't say exactly how, but the left will soon be grasping at straws. They know she has credible experience at least as much as O'bama, and they know they can't attack her as a woman. They will delve into her church, into her personal religious practice, and into the way she raises her kids in a Christian home.

Steve
Posted By: Barak's Womn Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Stan V
and does it bother any of the females on this board that Palin was chosen to capture women voters, first and foremost?

I can't control why she was chosen. All I can do is respond to who she is.

She captured me because of her views on the issues that are important to me, and because of her level of honesty and integrity. The fact that she is a woman is secondary. I would never vote for someone just because she was a woman.

I would have DIED before I voted for Hillary!!! eek

Penny
Posted By: RufusG Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Stan V
Hey, we got another one!

Stay in the weeds!!!


Just like a loudmouthed Texan to hide from the question at hand. I'm all for winning the (unnecesary) war and I did my service chump. Take your avatar and shove it.
Posted By: Barak's Womn Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Everyday Hunter
Her Christian faith will be made into an issue. You heard it here first.

Ah... one MORE reason I like her! laugh

Penny
Posted By: ebd10 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Barak's Womn
Originally Posted by Stan V
and does it bother any of the females on this board that Palin was chosen to capture women voters, first and foremost?

I can't control why she was chosen. All I can do is respond to who she is.

She captured me because of her views on the issues that are important to me, and because of her level of honesty and integrity. The fact that she is a woman is secondary. I would never vote for someone just because she was a women.

I would have DIED before I voted for Hillary!!! eek

Penny

Don't let Stan rile you, Penny. He's like a head of lettuce; no taste, no substance, just a generic vegetable.
Posted By: Barak's Womn Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by isaac
I'll volunteer as one of the gifts!
I'll lay dollars to doughnuts that if I were to ask Karen, she'd say that you're one of the greatest gifts God has given her in her life.

It's already done. grin

Penny
Posted By: RufusG Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by RickyD
Originally Posted by RufusG
Originally Posted by Stan V
you really don't think Mrs. Palin is capable of Cheney like management?


Like managing to get us in a war that destroyed his boss's presidency?
Destroyed it? Ahhh....there's that little re-election thing that might contradict your contention.


I voted for Bush twice. Please tell me what he's been able to accomplish in his second term. Imagine what he might have been able to accomplish had he not been saddled with Iraq.
Posted By: ltppowell Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I tend to agree with Jorge. I think she is probably a wonderful person, and hopefully a good VP, but she is not recognized out of circles such as ours. The Rep party is gonna have to do some hard selling in the next couple months. I hope they can.
Posted By: 340boy Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Give her some time and I am sure Palin will be a good VP.
Posted By: Barak's Womn Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by shreck
Has she shot anyone in the face yet? grin

grin grin grin

Penny
Posted By: 340boy Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Shreck,

You sure have a way with words...
laugh
Posted By: Barak's Womn Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by ebd10
Don't let Stan rile you, Penny. He's like a head of lettuce; no taste, no substance, just a generic vegetable.

With a big head? grin

Yeah... Barak always tells me to spend my time paying attention to posters who aren't lightweights...

Penny
Posted By: shreck Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I have some questions for Mrs. Palin, like, "What is your favorite calibre for moose"?

Wow this thread is growing like wildfire...
Posted By: billhilly Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by RufusG
Originally Posted by Stan V
Hey, we got another one!

Stay in the weeds!!!


Just like a loudmouthed Texan to hide from the question at hand. I'm all for winning the (unnecesary) war and I did my service chump. Take your avatar and shove it.



Hey now. Don�t blame Texas for Stan. Some of us think he�s a knucklehead too ya know.
Posted By: Barak's Womn Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by RufusG
I voted for Bush twice.

So you live in Chicago???

(Sorry... I knew what you meant. I just couldn't resist. I don't always do well with temptation... whistle )

Penny
Posted By: RufusG Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by billhilly
Originally Posted by RufusG
Originally Posted by Stan V
Hey, we got another one!

Stay in the weeds!!!


Just like a loudmouthed Texan to hide from the question at hand. I'm all for winning the (unnecesary) war and I did my service chump. Take your avatar and shove it.



Hey now. Don&#146;t blame Texas for Stan. Some of us think he&#146;s a knucklehead too ya know.



No offense intended to other Texans, loudmouthed or not. Temper got the better of me.
Posted By: Sassy Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Barak's Womn
Originally Posted by RufusG
I voted for Bush twice.

So you live in Chicago??


That was good Penny. Crossed my mind too.
Posted By: RufusG Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Barak's Womn
Originally Posted by RufusG
I voted for Bush twice.

So you live in Chicago???

Penny


Good one, but if I lived in Chicago I would have probably said I voted AGAINST Bush twice.
Posted By: billhilly Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by RufusG
Originally Posted by billhilly
Originally Posted by RufusG
Originally Posted by Stan V
Hey, we got another one!

Stay in the weeds!!!


Just like a loudmouthed Texan to hide from the question at hand. I'm all for winning the (unnecesary) war and I did my service chump. Take your avatar and shove it.



Hey now. Don&#146;t blame Texas for Stan. Some of us think he&#146;s a knucklehead too ya know.



No offense intended to other Texans, loudmouthed or not. Temper got the better of me.



Stan will do that to ya. No offence taken. Hell, I argree with you.
Posted By: 17ACKLEYBEE Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Palin is a micromanager and will have to unlearn that...


In politics if you're surrounded by liberal state workers you have to be a micromanager it's not like the private sector.
Posted By: Barak's Womn Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by RufusG
Good one, but if I lived in Chicago I would have probably said I voted AGAINST Bush twice.

You're right, but I STILL had to say it. Pathetic, isn't it? grin

Penny
Posted By: bigwhoop Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
McCain and the RNC has just shut down Obamas' "bounce".
they have pulled off a coupe and trumped the Dems. Hillary now believes she is a viable lump of flesh (yuck) for 2012.
Gov. Palin is a conservative, pro-life, lifetime NRA, takes no prisoners and in high school she was known by her basketball teamates as "barricuda". Her son is in the Army and will be sent to Afganistan.
The Dems are hysterical and lashing out in any way they can.
This will turn off many moderate woman and guess where they will go.
She sold the States' plane, the limo, cut over 30 large State projects as too spendy including the "bridge to no where". She took on cronyism including Ted Stevens.

Romney, Pawlenty, Lieberman and others may have future jobs in the McCain Administration.

I can't wait to have the arrogant, pompous Biden debate her.

Don't pass judgment until you become more informed.

I was a tepid McCain supporter. I am now going to send money.
Posted By: Ken Howell Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by McInnis
� they're saying that � she will get blasted by Biden in the VP debate. �

I expect tough Sarah to eat all the grub in mean Joe's kitchen.
Posted By: The_Real_Hawkeye Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by jorgeI
No Hawk, I'm no McCainaniac, but what I was trying to point out is the fact you can't be THAT stupid and accomplished what he's done. An engineeering degree fron USNA, plus having scored high enough in flight training to get single seat jets is no small feat. jorge
I understand that Carl Marx was academically accomplished too, but I still have very little respect for the quality of the man's intellect.
Posted By: Sitka deer Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
jorge
"...it's also obvious you are in complete ignorance of the inter-service rivalries and quips we've traded throughout the centuries. I've logged hundreds of flight hours working with the USCG and CJTG4 doing drug interdiction. Your "glass arcade' comment speaks volumes to your stovepipe level of knowledge. I know what you do, and your lack of respect for my profession, experiences and accomplishments neither surprise nor concern me."

I am far from ignorant of the inter-service rivalries... but this is a public forum, neither a locker room nor an O club.

Funny you should mention "stovepipe" as said item on my boat is a piece of 5" titanium picked up as scrap from Boeing! Fantastic stuff for the purpose.

I have very high regard for your profession, but precious little for arrogant examples badmouthing others... For example, Doc Rockmore, a CG flight surgeon out of Kodiak (they named the new medical clinic after him) died in a chopper in horrible weather trying to medivac a head-injured village boy. Rockmore had spent a few days with us just a week before. I knew another crew member on the same flight.

Also "met" a Navy Seal on Christmas Eve many years ago when he popped up in front of a raft we had seen in the lights out in front of the boat. Snowing hard, Christmas Eve maneuvers, miles from shore in the Gulf of Alaska and they have been the least arrogant military guys I have ever met. Due to the training base on Kodiak I have actually gotten to meet several of them. I have nothing beyond respect and admiration for them.

I have met the Seals...
art
Posted By: Popapi Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by Popapi
Originally Posted by jorgeI
I'm not happy...jorge
You shouldn't be Mr. Jorge...


But if you read the rest of my posts, I am in complete support. Tell you what, just raid that Union Chest of yours and how about a "C" note that McCain crushes the Marxist? jorge
I know your in complete support you should be. I've noticed if a republican don't like his/her choices they STILL vote or support there party as per me if I didn't like what Obama was about and IF he picked a VP that was not credible with credentials THERE is NO WAY I would support him. I promise ya that. C note?? DONE DEAL we can definitely do that Mr. Jorge... Let me go ahead and footnote this post cause I don't want you to get AMNESIA in Nov...
Posted By: 100_dollar_Bill Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Further proof that McCain knows how to pick his women. I like her so far.

I saw it right away this morning on FOX. I listened for quite a while about how she fishes, hunts, NRA, has five kids, one with Downe's which she refused to abort. Her oldest signed up on Sept 11 last year and is going to Iraq. Her husband is a steel worker for Bp, she was against the bridge to nowhere. Etc, etc.... Kilmeade said she gets up at midnight to shoot moose! smile

While I was waiting for the speech, I figured I better check out the other news channels to see what they had to say. I switched to CNN where I learned that she was involved in getting a police officer fired that her sister (or whatever) was divorced from, she was in the pocket of big oil, etc..... They wondered how a woman with five kids, (one special needs) could possibly care for them while being the VP. The "host" (guy) asked a female reporter how a woman could possible be VP, with five...... The female reporter paused, looked very irritated, shuffled her feet, bent her head slightly down and forward with a hard stare into the camera and said: "Some would ask if you would have that question about a man with five kids." The guy didn't even get it. I laughed like heck! grin
Posted By: RufusG Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by DPole
Her husband is a steel worker


Did I hear correctly that he is a USW member? If so that's an interesting twist.
Posted By: Popapi Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by EvilTwin
Originally Posted by Popapi
Originally Posted by jorgeI
I'm not happy...jorge
You shouldn't be Mr. Jorge...

Popapi, Jorge will adjust quite well as this expedition unfolds. YOU however are going to have to have ALL sharp objects taken away from you. Your posting yesterday indicates that you are going to vote for Osama Obama along with that little scrunge GPA. You KNOW that you are about to get yer asses kicked big time and that Obama will be relegated to running for dogcatcher in Chicago grin.
Only time will tell Mr. ET ONLY time will tell. O and yes I will be voting for Mr. Obama UNLESS he comes up with something that I don't like...
Posted By: Ken Howell Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Two objections to Palin �

� She went to an Idaho university instead of the University of Alaska.

� She isn't Mrs Kenneth E Howell.

Otherwise, �
Posted By: slymule Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Gotta get me one of these t-shirts! You guys gotta take a look!
Sara Palin tee shirt for VP

http://shop.cafepress.com/design/28046166
Posted By: Sitka deer Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Miss T has seen her in underwear...
Posted By: rattler Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Miss T has seen her in underwear...



well thats about a worthless thing to say............unless you have pictures grin
Posted By: Sitka deer Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Wish I did... wink
Posted By: Pugs Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Miss T has seen her in underwear...


dear god, as if I didn't have enough to think about! wink
Posted By: BMT Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Pugs
Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Miss T has seen her in underwear...


dear god, as if I didn't have enough to think about! wink


Cruel Joke without pictures.

BMT
Posted By: 100_dollar_Bill Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by RufusG
Originally Posted by DPole
Her husband is a steel worker


Did I hear correctly that he is a USW member? If so that's an interesting twist.


I heard that too. Its good and its bad; I guess it matters what channel a guy watches. smirk
Posted By: horse1 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Sara Palin/Condi Rice in 2012?
Posted By: jorgeI Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by Steelhead
I don't think he likes voting for anyone with bigger balls...


Well as a CWO in the shallow water civilian navy, it doesn't take much to impress you. jorge


Fair enough Art, but like I alluded to, I was just "pushing back" at the shot from SH. Arrogance had nothing to do with it. Why didn't you chastise him? Seems to me his initial volley makes for a a pretty good {sic} locker room commentary don't you think? jorge
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
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Posted By: jorgeI Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Popapi
Originally Posted by EvilTwin
Originally Posted by Popapi
Originally Posted by jorgeI
I'm not happy...jorge
You shouldn't be Mr. Jorge...

Popapi, Jorge will adjust quite well as this expedition unfolds. YOU however are going to have to have ALL sharp objects taken away from you. Your posting yesterday indicates that you are going to vote for Osama Obama along with that little scrunge GPA. You KNOW that you are about to get yer asses kicked big time and that Obama will be relegated to running for dogcatcher in Chicago grin.
Only time will tell Mr. ET ONLY time will tell. O and yes I will be voting for Mr. Obama UNLESS he comes up with something that I don't like...


So you're ok with income redistribution, gun control, and homosexuals openly serving in the armed forces (to name a few) then? yes or no will suffice. jorge
Posted By: ironbender Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Sarah don't roll that way.
Posted By: Mississippi Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Palin could kick Biden's As*!!!!! for real.
Posted By: toltecgriz Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I think you take it too seriously, Jorge. smile
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Him, tightly wrapped, say it ain't so.........
Posted By: Powerguy Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Jorge, this thread has allowed sand to blow into your vagina(in a refreshing way) grin

Relax and smile it is the weekend ol chap
Posted By: akpls Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Bristoe
....... a state with a total population about the size of the metropolitan area of a medium sized eastern city.
And us Alaskans is damned proud of it!
Posted By: jorgeI Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by jorgeI
No Hawk, I'm no McCainaniac, but what I was trying to point out is the fact you can't be THAT stupid and accomplished what he's done. An engineeering degree fron USNA, plus having scored high enough in flight training to get single seat jets is no small feat. jorge
I understand that Carl Marx was academically accomplished too, but I still have very little respect for the quality of the man's intellect.


Nice touch, bringing up Karl Marx as a comparison, but you obviously don't get it. Marx was one of those liberal art "BA"weenies that can write a bunch of BS and call it a "thesis." One can't BS their way into an engineering degree. Say what you will, but the man is not stupid. jorge
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Yep, and I bet most Alaskans have traveled much further than most eastern city folks.....
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Jorge, I'll happily donate a $100 the "Getting Jorge laid fund" if it will make you a happier dude..........
Posted By: 340boy Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I like your bumper stickers, Steelie!
smile
Posted By: jorgeI Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Powerguy
Jorge, this thread has allowed sand to blow into your vagina(in a refreshing way) grin

Relax and smile it is the weekend ol chap

Let me guess, you're from Alaska too. jorge
Posted By: Ackleyfan Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Popai,no disrespect but how could you even consider voting for obama given his stance on Abortion,to me thats like voting against GOD!! This is only one of the reasons not to vote for him!
Posted By: Steve Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by jorgeI
One can't BS their way into an engineering degree.


I dunno about that one. I've worked with quite a few idiot engineers over my years. You can't teach common sense.
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I don't get it, I really don't. I watched 30 folks eat bowls of rice and beans before they where repatriated back to Cuba and they were FAR more happy than ole Whore-hay.

Guess being able to only go on guided hunts does that to a guy, thank God I'm poor...........
Posted By: hunter1960 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I was reading the online version of the local paper in my home county (Cowlitz) in SW Wa. It seems that her husband's uncle is from there. He used to own an asphalt plant, that i am familiar with.

The paper The Longview Daily News, has some very mixed opinions as to her selection. I can understand some, as it being a Dem. county, but there's alot of folks who were happy with the selection also. The majority of the Pro's & Con's are about the same points as what's being made here.
Posted By: jorgeI Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Jorge, I'll happily donate a $100 the "Getting Jorge laid fund" if it will make you a happier dude..........


From a Coastie? lol! Be careful of that "locker room" talk though...jorge
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Dude, I'm sure you would be fine to hang with in person, just chill a bit and enjoy.......
Posted By: ironbender Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Steve
Originally Posted by jorgeI
One can't BS their way into an engineering degree.


I dunno about that one. I've worked with quite a few idiot engineers over my years. You can't teach common sense.


As an acquaintance said about his engineer son-in-law "He's got an engineering degree, but that don't make him smart" !
smile
Posted By: Scorpion Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by jorgeI
No Hawk, I'm no McCainaniac, but what I was trying to point out is the fact you can't be THAT stupid and accomplished what he's done. An engineeering degree fron USNA, plus having scored high enough in flight training to get single seat jets is no small feat. jorge


Jorge,

I was curious as to what kind of engineering degree McCain has, as I couldn't really find anything detailed online about his education. If you know of any links I'd appreciate it.

Thanks
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I know one engineer on the 'Fire that has 1 year of experience 40 times........
Posted By: 340boy Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by Steve
Originally Posted by jorgeI
One can't BS their way into an engineering degree.


I dunno about that one. I've worked with quite a few idiot engineers over my years. You can't teach common sense.


As an acquaintance said about his engineer son-in-law "He's got an engineering degree, but that don't make him smart" !
smile


Easy on the engineers, you characters...
grins
Posted By: Calvin Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Jorge, I'll happily donate a $100 the "Getting Jorge laid fund" if it will make you a happier dude..........


I'll Donate $100 to the "Getting Jorge a Dirty Sanchez" fund...
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Dude, I'm rolling........
Posted By: ironbender Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
One bad engineer don't ruin the whole box of calculators! smile
Posted By: 340boy Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I know, I know...
grin
Posted By: Ackleyfan Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
SH,your not "Poor" didn't you have 10 Mcmillans on order at once?
Posted By: BOWHUNR Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Dude, I'm rolling........


That makes two of us!!
Posted By: Scorpion Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Steelhead
I know one engineer on the 'Fire that has 1 year of experience 40 times........


Who is that unfortunate soul?

...or did something just whiz over my head?
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Not gonna say anything about the hack....
Posted By: Ivan Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Ken Howell
Two objections to Palin &#151;

&#149; She went to an Idaho university instead of the University of Alaska.

&#149; She isn't Mrs Kenneth E Howell.

Otherwise, &#133;


Why Ken you old rascal!
Posted By: Steve Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by 340boy

Easy on the engineers, you characters...
grins


I can get away with it. I R 1.
Posted By: 340boy Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
U 2??
Posted By: Steve Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
if(engineer) return TRUE; else return FALSE;
Posted By: 340boy Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
TRUE



what branch are you, Steve?

Chemical engineering is mine.
Posted By: jorgeI Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Scorpion
Originally Posted by jorgeI
No Hawk, I'm no McCainaniac, but what I was trying to point out is the fact you can't be THAT stupid and accomplished what he's done. An engineeering degree fron USNA, plus having scored high enough in flight training to get single seat jets is no small feat. jorge


Jorge,

I was curious as to what kind of engineering degree McCain has, as I couldn't really find anything detailed online about his education. If you know of any links I'd appreciate it.

Thanks


Scorpion: Prior to the class of 76, all graduates from the Naval Academy could only graduate with BS degrees in some type of engineering. After that date, even though the only degrees one gets from Annapolis are Bachelor Of Science degrees(they make you take enough math, physics, chemistry to meet that threshold) you can still get a major in a Liberal Arts discipline, but it's still a BS versus a BA. jorge
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
There are only 10 types of people in the world �
those who understand binary and those who don't.
Posted By: 340boy Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by Scorpion
Originally Posted by jorgeI
No Hawk, I'm no McCainaniac, but what I was trying to point out is the fact you can't be THAT stupid and accomplished what he's done. An engineeering degree fron USNA, plus having scored high enough in flight training to get single seat jets is no small feat. jorge


Jorge,

I was curious as to what kind of engineering degree McCain has, as I couldn't really find anything detailed online about his education. If you know of any links I'd appreciate it.

Thanks


Scorpion: Prior to the class of 76, all graduates from the Naval Academy could only graduate with BS degrees in some type of engineering. After that date, even though the only degrees one gets from Annapolis are Bachelor Of Science degrees(they make you take enough math, physics, chemistry to meet that threshold) you can still get a major in a Liberal Arts discipline, but it's still a BS versus a BA. jorge


That is interesting, Jorge, I didn't know that about Annapolis.
Posted By: Sassy Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I always thought a BS degree was what most men received as they are so good at it.
Posted By: Scorpion Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by Scorpion
Originally Posted by jorgeI
No Hawk, I'm no McCainaniac, but what I was trying to point out is the fact you can't be THAT stupid and accomplished what he's done. An engineeering degree fron USNA, plus having scored high enough in flight training to get single seat jets is no small feat. jorge


Jorge,

I was curious as to what kind of engineering degree McCain has, as I couldn't really find anything detailed online about his education. If you know of any links I'd appreciate it.

Thanks


Scorpion: Prior to the class of 76, all graduates from the Naval Academy could only graduate with BS degrees in some type of engineering. After that date, even though the only degrees one gets from Annapolis are Bachelor Of Science degrees(they make you take enough math, physics, chemistry to meet that threshold) you can still get a major in a Liberal Arts discipline, but it's still a BS versus a BA. jorge


Thanks Jorge, I didn't know that. Do the majority still opt for only majors in engineering, or do a fair amount get degrees in the arts?
Posted By: Steve Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Funny. A colleague had that on a t-shirt the other day. He's on the right side of the bell curve as far as being an bright engineer, BTW.
Posted By: Steve Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
BS - Bull [bleep]
MS - More [bleep]
PHD - Piled higher and deeper
Posted By: Popapi Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by Popapi
Originally Posted by EvilTwin
Originally Posted by Popapi
Originally Posted by jorgeI
I'm not happy...jorge
You shouldn't be Mr. Jorge...

Popapi, Jorge will adjust quite well as this expedition unfolds. YOU however are going to have to have ALL sharp objects taken away from you. Your posting yesterday indicates that you are going to vote for Osama Obama along with that little scrunge GPA. You KNOW that you are about to get yer asses kicked big time and that Obama will be relegated to running for dogcatcher in Chicago grin.
Only time will tell Mr. ET ONLY time will tell. O and yes I will be voting for Mr. Obama UNLESS he comes up with something that I don't like...


So you're ok with income redistribution, gun control, and homosexuals openly serving in the armed forces (to name a few) then? yes or no will suffice. jorge
Income redistribution if it will HELP the American people as to how Mr. Obama want's to do it YES. Gun Control there's is not much he can do about gun control looking at OUR second ammendment right people tried that in The District of Columabia and it was voted down, so I'm not to worried about that(Gun Control). And homosexuals openly serving in the armed forces IT won't happen.
Posted By: 340mag Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
personally I think having a REAL person, with strong ties to rural AMERICAN VALUES, thats not SOILED in the beltway politics, is a huge improvement
Posted By: ebd10 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Here's an unfortunate headline:
McCain taps Palin for VP

I say let Cheney do his own work!!!
Posted By: Scorpion Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
There are only 10 types of people in the world �
those who understand ternary, those who don't, and those who mistake it for binary.
Posted By: ironbender Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
There are two types of people in the world - those that divide them into groups, and those that don't.
Posted By: 340boy Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by 340mag
personally I think having a REAL person, with strong ties to rural AMERICAN VALUES, thats not SOILED in the beltway politics, is a huge improvement


I couldn't agree more, 340.
Posted By: 100_dollar_Bill Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by jorgeI
a BS versus a BA. jorge


I have a BS and a MA, both in Aquatic Bioloy. Damn near anything is possible. cool
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Those that don't are called bi-sexual..........
Posted By: jorgeI Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I can probably get you the exact stats in a few days if you're interested. My current job affords me the ability to look at all of that. I'd say the majority do not opt for engineering. Your final GPA has a LOT to do with what type of warfare designator you want to pursue so the higher your GPA, (and assuming you are physically qualified) the greater your chances of getting your first choice, be it aviation, surface line, nuclear power, supply, intel, etc. jorge
Posted By: Barkoff Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I listened to her introduction today on the radio, what a instant shot of enthusiasm she just brought to the McCain ticket. Beats the hell out of "angry Joe Biden", I just hope she can debate as good as she looks. Too bad AK will lose here services if elected.
Posted By: Scorpion Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by jorgeI
I can probably get you the exact stats in a few days if you're interested. My current job affords me the ability to look at all of that. I'd say the majority do not opt for engineering. Your final GPA has a LOT to do with what type of warfare designator you want to pursue so the higher your GPA, (and assuming you are physically qualified) the greater your chances of getting your first choice, be it aviation, surface line, nuclear power, supply, intel, etc. jorge


If it wouldn't be too much trouble, I'd definitely be interested in seeing the stats. So, you're saying that your final GPA, regardless of what your major is, supercedes the fact you may be an aerospace engineer vs. history/chemistry, etc.?
Posted By: 100_dollar_Bill Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by ebd10
Here's an unfortunate headline:
McCain taps Palin for VP



Today, I heard a reporter say: "There are 18 million cracks out there who are not sure who to vote for!" They say some pretty stupid things.
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
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Posted By: BCBrian Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
How come so many of you Republicans on this list are saying TODAY that Sarah Palin is such a GREAT choice - and yet none of you said that - in the last YEAR of posting on this list?
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
[bleep] Canada
Posted By: BOWHUNR Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Damnit!!! Another keyboard gone!!

Mike
Posted By: Calvin Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by BCBrian
How come so many of you Republicans on this list are saying TODAY that Sarah Palin is such a GREAT choice - and yet none of you said that - in the last YEAR of posting on this list?


Palin as VP has been the subject of a few threads...
Posted By: 340boy Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Steelhead
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laugh laugh
Posted By: jorgeI Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Not quite. There are other factors involved. First and foremost the "Needs of the Navy" come first smile then there is also a long standing test that gauges your aptitude for flying. It's a pretty neat test actually. In my current job as the "Dean Wormer" of Naval Aviation, I get to screen all that apply that want to come to Pensacola. But yes, if your class standing with a BS in say history is higher than someone's with a BS in Aeronautical Engineering, AND your aptitude test is high enough, yes you'll get in. Where it gets sticky is with the "Nukes." They have the final say on how the Ensigns get farmed out and if you are a "40 pound head" and the nukes want you, they get you. Lots more, but I don;t want to hijack the thread. PM if you like. jorge
Posted By: Popapi Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Ackleyfan
Popai,no disrespect but how could you even consider voting for obama given his stance on Abortion,to me thats like voting against GOD!! This is only one of the reasons not to vote for him!
I would NEVER vote or denounce my Lord and my GOD no matter what trust me I prayed about my choice as to whom to vote for and asking God to show me, believe it or not eventhough people has faults my mind set have been keeped on Obama.

Now with that being said things COULD change what I'm waitng for are the debates these debates should put the stamp on AND let us all know who's credible as being OUR next POTUS. Whomever it will be I will support them 100% AND will keep them prayed up to do what needs to be done for the American people...
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
In short, you are a fruitloop.......
Posted By: .280Rem Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
From what I know so far, in terms of getting himself elected, McCain swung for the fences and seems to have hit a home run. This seems to be quite unexpected in most quarters. A guy that calls our local afternoon sports talk show is Palin's brother in law. He lives in Linden WA but is a big Bama fan from Mobile. Even he was floored.

Some background that he gave: She's was a point guard on her state's HS state champion BBall team in Idaho (I think he said). She has her degree in journalism and writes all her own stuff. Athletic, attractive (appears to have had some 'work' done to me), married to one of the big dogs in the Alaskan commercial fishing industry. Can't find anything to hate yet for me.
Posted By: jorgeI Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I just heard Palin's speech in it's entirety. I have to say it was very impressive. Exeellent delivery AND content. jorge
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
The only thing that would make her perfect is if she was a GATOR fan!


GO GATORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted By: jorgeI Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
So you're ok with Obama's views on abortion before AND after a child is born? And who doesn't bother to help his own brother who lives in a shack in the middle of Africa on twelve bucks a month? Better check with YOUR GOD on those and get back to us. jorge
Posted By: FVA Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by BCBrian
How come so many of you Republicans on this list are saying TODAY that Sarah Palin is such a GREAT choice - and yet none of you said that - in the last YEAR of posting on this list?

Some have mentioned it in prior threads. Many more have probably thought it. Most likely the answer is that nobody ever thought McCain,or anybody else, had the balls to make such a choice.
Posted By: Popapi Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Steelhead
In short, you are a fruitloop.......
Haven't you and I talked about you saying anything to me. And I will say this I will not stoop low to you to EVEN get in a discussion. So if you don't mind SIR PLEASE don't acknowledge or say anything in reference to my post. Further more don't read them. I respect what you say please do the same for me...
Posted By: .280Rem Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Steelhead
The only thing that would make her perfect is if she was a GATOR fan!


GO GATORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Her BIL is a Bama fan. sick
Posted By: ironbender Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
The dog referred to was likely the iron dog. Her husband is a 4 time winner. And works the slope.

They have a family setnet salmon site in Bristol Bay - that's the commie fishing.

Played bball in Palmer or Wasilla. "Sarah Barracuda"
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Popapi
Originally Posted by Steelhead
In short, you are a fruitloop.......
Haven't you and I talked about you saying anything to me. And I will say this I will not stoop low to you to EVEN get in a discussion. So if you don't mind SIR PLEASE don't acknowledge or say anything in reference to my post. Further more don't read them. I respect what you say please do the same for me...


Blow me!
Posted By: ironbender Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Would like to see her play some 1 on 1 bball with Obama.
Posted By: 458 Lott Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Steelhead
I know one engineer on the 'Fire that has 1 year of experience 40 times........


I've worked with quite a few of those.

It amazed me how in engineering school there were students that could ace the tests but were useless in applying the information.

A piece of sheepskin with ones name and the name of a school means absolutely nothing when it comes to actually designing things that can be built and work.
Posted By: The_Real_Hawkeye Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by BCBrian
How come so many of you Republicans on this list are saying TODAY that Sarah Palin is such a GREAT choice - and yet none of you said that - in the last YEAR of posting on this list?
I'm on the record at the Fire supporting Palin as a VP choice going back a couple of months at least.
Posted By: Ivan Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Steelhead
[bleep] Canada


That's pretty friggin' rude! Brian makes a valid observation. Besides, would you rather have another Mexico type chit hole on the Northern border?
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Sorry, I meant California
Posted By: FVA Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Saw that coming.
Posted By: crossfireoops Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
"Bitch Stole my Fish"

.............SNORK,

GTC
Posted By: Popapi Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by jorgeI
So you're ok with Obama's views on abortion before AND after a child is born? And who doesn't bother to help his own brother who lives in a shack in the middle of Africa on twelve bucks a month? Better check with YOUR GOD on those and get back to us. jorge
Mr Jorge have you even heard his solid views as per abortion and what he thinks AFTER a child is born... Trust me I've checked with MY GOD and HOPEFULLY MY GOD is the same as yours if it's not then we can't even have these conversations................o and by the way as per my GOD in meaning GOD my creator, the creator of the Heavens and Earth, Lord Jesus Christ the SON of GOD, the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Bible is how I roll. I'm hoping and praying you ROLL that way to...... DO YOU?????? Lastly that "C" note you want to do is a DONE DEAL... wink
Posted By: ebd10 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Last time I checked, Christian Doctrine was anti-abortion. You one of them New Age Christians that reads from the book of Second Opinions?
Posted By: Popapi Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Originally Posted by Popapi
Originally Posted by Steelhead
In short, you are a fruitloop.......
Haven't you and I talked about you saying anything to me. And I will say this I will not stoop low to you to EVEN get in a discussion. So if you don't mind SIR PLEASE don't acknowledge or say anything in reference to my post. Further more don't read them. I respect what you say please do the same for me...


Blow me!
I'll go there Blow WHAT if your BOYFRIEND won't do it why would you want me to...
Posted By: isaac Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Jorge...make sure that popi dude knows that when it comes to you, the C doesn't stand for Change.
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Betting he drinks scotch from a goat's head, which ain't all bad....
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I assumed you was a chick, pretty obvious you squat to piss...
Posted By: 340boy Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Popapi
Originally Posted by jorgeI
So you're ok with Obama's views on abortion before AND after a child is born? And who doesn't bother to help his own brother who lives in a shack in the middle of Africa on twelve bucks a month? Better check with YOUR GOD on those and get back to us. jorge
Mr Jorge have you even heard his solid views as per abortion and what he thinks AFTER a child is born... Trust me I've checked with MY GOD and HOPEFULLY MY GOD is the same as yours if it's not then we can't even have these conversations................o and by the way as per my GOD in meaning GOD my creator, the creator of the Heavens and Earth, Lord Jesus Christ the SON of GOD, the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Bible is how I roll. I'm hoping and praying you ROLL that way to...... DO YOU?????? Lastly that "C" note you want to do is a DONE DEAL... wink


Obama is pro abortion, the God of the bible is pro life, end of story...
Posted By: Popapi Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Steelhead
I assumed you was a chick, pretty obvious you squat to piss...
smirk You know what folk say about ASSUMING.....uhh do you know me Imbecile???
Posted By: 100_dollar_Bill Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Steelhead
[Linked Image]


Thank you. smile
Posted By: McInnis Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08

Quote
Brian makes a valid observation.


No he didn't. There was an extended thread about Palin's lawsuit against the Federal Govt. here on the Campfire earlier this summer, and there were quite a few members hoping McCain would pick her.

I would go look it up and provide a thread, but why waste my time trying to convince a Canadian?
Posted By: Seven_Heaven Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
WELL!!

I've been gone all day and just excited to check the campfire to see if everyone is as happy as I am to hear about Mrs. Palin.
What could be better than a NRA life member, hunter, fisherwoman, mother and the prettiest Govenor to come out of any state?

Alas, it once again comes to name calling and general bad behavior. How anyone can love hunting and guns and not be happy about this choice is beyond me. Perhaps the antis should be boosted off of the Campfire?!

Oh wait...I get it...use guys is hoping that some bad behavior might bring out the motherly tough love and come down to the lower 48 to dish out some corporal punishment, right!?

Finally! Someone in this mess worth voting for!
Posted By: crossfireoops Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
" Dahmer is dead, Dahmer is dead.
He got a broomstick up-side his head.

Dahmer is dead, Dahmer is dead.
Long live the broomstick, Dahmer is dead."

....Damn,.....I'd almost forgotten how much fun this place was to hang around.

Like that line,......If it's OK with you can I Chalk that on the side of the Garden truck racks?

gtc


Posted By: Ackleyfan Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Standing up for abortion is more than just a "fault" Killing the unborn is not ok with GOD,and if you vote for Obama knowing he supports it, says your ok with it!
Posted By: McInnis Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Well, there's a rumor going around that she doesn't like Barnes bullets...
Posted By: Sitka deer Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
jorge
No problem, but all SH did was question your testicle-load while you questioned all the CG does... Big difference in that, to my way of thinking.

BTW, I almost get the idea you missed my "demotion" as a certain wannabe engineer called it... You have no call to be nice to me anymore here. wink
art
Posted By: crossfireoops Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Ivan
Originally Posted by Steelhead
[bleep] Canada


That's pretty friggin' rude! Brian makes a valid observation. Besides, would you rather have another Mexico type chit hole on the Northern border?


eR,.....WITH ALL DUE RESPECT,.....IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW MUCH ABOUT KANA-DA.

gtc
Posted By: ironbender Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
in her '06!
Posted By: 100_dollar_Bill Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by crossfireoops
" Dahmer is dead, Dahmer is dead.
He got a broomstick up-side his head.

Dahmer is dead, Dahmer is dead.
Long live the broomstick, Dahmer is dead."

If it's OK with you can I Chalk that on the side of the Garden truck racks?

gtc




All yours. Its from a Violent Femmes song.

Posted By: isaac Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
where's STEVE NO? am thinking he's not happy about this?
+++++++++++++++++++++

Poor guy is probably hammering down a bunch of plywood and securing the boat.

Posted By: Popapi Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Ackleyfan
Standing up for abortion is more than just a "fault" Killing the unborn is not ok with GOD,and if you vote for Obama knowing he supports it, says your ok with it!
Let me say this Sir as in reading and hearing how Mr. Obama fill about abortiona and if ALL of what you say is true about him do YOU think GOD will allow this man to prosper or actually be our next POTUS if he does he will NOT last. I will cast my vote as how I see fit and if I'm wrong GOD please forgive me...
Posted By: Barkoff Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by BCBrian
How come so many of you Republicans on this list are saying TODAY that Sarah Palin is such a GREAT choice - and yet none of you said that - in the last YEAR of posting on this list?


She has been touted for some time as a good choice as VP, but when asked she said she wished to remain in AK, and had no ambitions on the national level...I guess somebody got on their knees and begged.

I wouldn't spend too much time trying to decide whether or not she is a good pick until we hear more from her, and see how she performs in the debates. Hell the way I see it she has just as much experience as Obabma does and seems quicker without a teleprompter.
Posted By: isaac Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
You're out there,dud!!
Posted By: Popapi Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
That makes two of us... wink
Posted By: kwg020 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I understand she has a degree in journalism. Along with the NRA credintials, this will really upset the left leaning media wonks. I wonder how they are going to spin this? kwg
Posted By: Foxbat Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Popapi
Mr Jorge have you even heard his solid views as per abortion and what he thinks AFTER a child is born... Trust me I've checked with MY GOD and HOPEFULLY MY GOD is the same as yours if it's not then we can't even have these conversations................o and by the way as per my GOD in meaning GOD my creator, the creator of the Heavens and Earth, Lord Jesus Christ the SON of GOD, the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Bible is how I roll. I'm hoping and praying you ROLL that way to...... DO YOU?????? Lastly that "C" note you want to do is a DONE DEAL... wink


I'm not emotional about the whole abortion issue, but I'm pretty sure my God is against pulling a baby half out of a womens vagina, sticking a needle in it's head to kill it so that you can use the semantics that it wasn't actually born yet and calling it a day.

See ol' Barry isn't one of these milquetoast "It's a woman's body" abortion supporters, he's got the whole radical left wing of the D party plank working, as he was AGAINST the ban on partial birth abortions. That's hardcore right there and that's Barry Hussein Obama.

Now if we were talking about important issues, we could discuss how one can support a guy that believes in taxing individuals for Social Security beyond their benefits cap or we could talk about his plan to ban FFL dealers within 5 miles of a park or school (take a look at a map and see if you can find an open spot where Barry will allow gun stores), or we could discuss how raising the tax burden for professionals to over 50% of their income is in any way, shape or form, a fair and even handed approach to capitalism.

Posted By: Dan_Chamberlain Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
And...she's not a lawyer? Cool

Dan
Posted By: isaac Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
She just relies on them!!

Very cool...and wise!
Posted By: Foxbat Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Popapi
Originally Posted by Ackleyfan
Standing up for abortion is more than just a "fault" Killing the unborn is not ok with GOD,and if you vote for Obama knowing he supports it, says your ok with it!
Let me say this Sir as in reading and hearing how Mr. Obama fill about abortiona and if ALL of what you say is true about him do YOU think GOD will allow this man to prosper or actually be our next POTUS if he does he will NOT last. I will cast my vote as how I see fit and if I'm wrong GOD please forgive me...


God let Hitler become a leader and do a lot of damage before he met his end. Leaving decisions to God is a cop out, he gave you the free will to think and make proper decisions. He's there for guidance, but he's not gonna pull the lever for you.
Posted By: kwg020 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted By: fish30ought6
OK, I'll bite. What's VPILF? I know it's gonna be crude but I just have to know ...

Crude and NOT funny. kwg
Posted By: Foxbat Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by kwg020
Originally Posted By: fish30ought6
OK, I'll bite. What's VPILF? I know it's gonna be crude but I just have to know ...

Crude and NOT funny. kwg


Same as MILF.

Vice Prez I'd Like to Fxxx.
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Popapi
Originally Posted by Steelhead
I assumed you was a chick, pretty obvious you squat to piss...
smirk You know what folk say about ASSUMING.....uhh do you know me Imbecile???


Yes I know you are an imbecile.
Posted By: isaac Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Do you think he know he are?
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Not sure, but I bet he uses a double header.......
Posted By: Barkoff Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by ar15a292f
Pro life, pro 2nd Ammendment, a Washington outsider and she will shatter the "glass ceiling". I am very excited about Sarah Palin as John McCain's VP.


I have heard the term "galss ceiling" about five times today, where does this originate, what does it refer to?
Posted By: Popapi Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Foxbat
Originally Posted by Popapi
Originally Posted by Ackleyfan
Standing up for abortion is more than just a "fault" Killing the unborn is not ok with GOD,and if you vote for Obama knowing he supports it, says your ok with it!
Let me say this Sir as in reading and hearing how Mr. Obama fill about abortiona and if ALL of what you say is true about him do YOU think GOD will allow this man to prosper or actually be our next POTUS if he does he will NOT last. I will cast my vote as how I see fit and if I'm wrong GOD please forgive me...


God let Hitler become a leader and do a lot of damage before he met his end. Leaving decisions to God is a cop out, he gave you the free will to think and make proper decisions. He's there for guidance, but he's not gonna pull the lever for you.
Well if indeed Mr. Obama is President and things get out of control like Germany EVENTHOUGH those days are over you will see him(Mr Obama) SNATCHED away from his duties as POTUS quick, fast and in a hurry. Eventhough I'm casting my vote for Mr Obama it WILL be up to GOD determing our next POTUS and whichever Gentleman gets in it will be fine with me, like I said earlier whomever it is I will keep them prayed up to do the right thing for the American people...
Posted By: isaac Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Hilary's 18 million votes.
Posted By: UtahLefty Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Barkoff
Originally Posted by ar15a292f
Pro life, pro 2nd Ammendment, a Washington outsider and she will shatter the "glass ceiling". I am very excited about Sarah Palin as John McCain's VP.


I have heard the term "galss ceiling" about five times today, where does this originate, what does it refer to?


corporate world. an "invisible" barrier up the ladder that women were historically unable to pass (ie not be the big cheese).
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Yep, three shades of [bleep] up he is.......
Posted By: Popapi Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Originally Posted by Popapi
Originally Posted by Steelhead
I assumed you was a chick, pretty obvious you squat to piss...
smirk You know what folk say about ASSUMING.....uhh do you know me Imbecile???


Yes I know you are an imbecile.
Your a FUNNY Cat I fill sorry for you Fella following me around like a lil puppy...
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I pray to Christ you have only ever used condoms.
Posted By: Ackleyfan Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
As a Christian I Don't think..I know it would be wrong for me to vote for a Man That professes to be "Christian and is Pro abortion and I don't even need to ask GOD if it is wrong! And the 20 years he spent in a church that spewed the hate they did, does speak volumes of the kind a person he is,that you cannot see thru him is amazing!
Posted By: 458 Lott Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
stupid is as stupid does
Posted By: Popapi Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Ackleyfan
As a Christian I Don't think..I know it would be wrong for me to vote for a Man That professes to be "Christian and is Pro abortion and I don't even need to ask GOD if it is wrong! And the 20 years he spent in a church that spewed the hate they did, does speak volumes of the kind a person he is,that you cannot see thru him is amazing!
I judge NO man I leave that to GOD all I can/will do is PRAY for him...
Posted By: Ackleyfan Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Why vote against GOD?
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I'm thinking you rank as the most [bleep] up person on the 'Fire, and that is by a pretty large margin.
Posted By: Popapi Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Steelhead
I pray to Christ you have only ever used condoms.
Ya know what someone SHOULD have been praying when you were conceived...
Posted By: isaac Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Someone must have been prying when he was!!
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Your mom was, she was praying that my dad wouldn't stop......
Posted By: Jed 1899 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I advocated Palin way before Palin was cool.
Makes me feel good to pray.Even if it's praying that some sap slip's on a banana peel and breaks his neck.At least I'm praying.
Posted By: Spotshooter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08

She looks Like Mary Ann from gilagans Island.

Smoke'n hot.
Posted By: Popapi Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Ackleyfan
Why vote against GOD?
I would never do that what makes YOU think that I am I could be asking you the same thing about McCain leaving the troops in Iraq for 100 years getting them killed when we SHOULDN'T have been there in the fisrt place...
Posted By: Ackleyfan Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Your killin me grin
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Jed 1899
I advocated Palin way before Palin was cool.
Makes me feel good to pray.Even if it's praying that some sap slip's on a banana peel and breaks his neck.At least I'm praying.



Prayers sent!

How the hell is you, you nasty old bastid?
Posted By: soli Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
YEAH!
Posted By: Popapi Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Your mom was, she was praying that my dad would stop......
Now there you go lying IMBECILE, trust me if my mom was praying that your dad would stop you wouldn't be here... My mother don't know you OR your dad. I'm sure the both of you don't have what it takes to conceive a civilized being grin ... CLOWN whistle ...
Posted By: Popapi Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Jed 1899
I advocated Palin way before Palin was cool.
Makes me feel good to pray.Even if it's praying that some sap slip's on a banana peel and breaks his neck.At least I'm praying.
Yeah you are praying.................but you would be praying for the wrong thing Mr. Jed...
Posted By: Plinker Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Back to Palin, this should be her campaign song...

"Redneck Woman" by Gretchen Wilson
Posted By: Popapi Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Steelhead
I'm thinking you rank as the most [bleep] up person on the 'Fire, and that is by a pretty large margin.
Well there's me and others that think the same about you. wink
Posted By: Ackleyfan Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Are you really going to try and compare the two....nice try! It sounds like your mind is already made up, will GOD forgive you for voting against his word....yes he will,It's just something you shouldn't need forgiveness for!
Posted By: shreck Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Ackleyfan
Why vote against GOD?


Who elected God in the first place? grin
Posted By: Ken Howell Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Steelhead
I'm thinking you rank as the most [bleep] up person on the 'Fire, and that is by a pretty large margin.

Even more than me?

Gee!
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I'm happy to not be in your Pokeman group, trust me.

Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Ken Howell
Originally Posted by Steelhead
I'm thinking you rank as the most [bleep] up person on the 'Fire, and that is by a pretty large margin.

Even more than me?

Gee!


You are not, and I should have been a bit more kind to you. That is my cross to bare.
Posted By: Tracks Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Watching C-SPAN last year and watching McCain and his buddies Lott and Graham along with their Demo buds try to force the immigration mess thru without debate, I swore I'd never vote for McCain for any reason. At that time I thought Vitter from LA. was the only decent member of the Senate. I kinda still think that.
However, if I can find a way to justify in my own mind doing so, I might just vote for Palin and let McCain come along as baggage.
Posted By: shreck Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Shamelessly stolen from http://www.palinfacts.com/
which has sever photos of her there...

A la Chuck Norris facts...

We don�t know who would win in a Chuck Norris - Sarah Palin cage match because they�ve never invented a cage that can hold Sarah Palin.

Alaska is the 49th state solely because they knew even before she was born that Sarah Palin would never finish last.

Global Warming doesn�t kill polar bears. Sarah Palin does - usually with her bare hands.

Three of Sarah Palin�s five kids came out sideways - she never flinched.

Sarah Palin�s hotness is the largest single contributor to melting polar ice caps.

It�s not raining in DC. Those are God�s tears of joy that McCain picked Sarah Palin.

Chuck Norris wishes he was Sarah Palin trapped in a man�s body.

Sarah Palin paid her way through school by hunting for yeti pelts with a slingshot.

Sarah Palin knows the location of DB Cooper�s body because she threw him from the plane. grin

The Northern Lights are really just the reflection from Sarah Palin�s eys.

The raw energy of Sarah Palin melts the Alaskan ice roads every spring

Sarah Palin used to wrestle kodiak bears in Alaskan bare knuckles fight clubs.

Sarah Palin once bagged a caribou by staring it down until it died.

Sarah Palin turned down a job as skipper of a Deadliest Catch boat because it wasn�t challenging enough

Sarah Palin fishes salmon by convincing them it�s in their interest to jump into the boat.

Sarah Palin once guided Santa�s sleigh through an Alaskan blizzard with the light from her smile.

Little known fact: without her glasses, looking deep into Sarah Palin�s eyes will blind you with the beauty of the tundra sun.

Sarah Palin�s brain is three times the size of Joe Biden�s. It�s science.

grin



Posted By: Popapi Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Your mom was, she was praying that my dad wouldn't stop......
Why did you delete that last post on "me jerking off" here's my stand on that...
Why do I need to masturbate while reading that is something only you would think of and do, that's the furthest thing from my mind Imbicile, your proving to us more and more that your a ignorant being solely on the things that you say... I hope you don't have any children if so I feel sorry for them having a dad like yourself...
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
TFF
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Like a [bleep] rat
Posted By: Ken Howell Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Steelhead
� I should have been a bit more kind to you. That is my cross to bear.

Toss that "cross" by the wayside, Amigo, and forget it. Don't pause or look back. Let the termites have it.
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Popapi
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Your mom was, she was praying that my dad wouldn't stop......
Why did you delete that last post on "me jerking off" here's my stand on that...
Why do I need to masturbate while reading that is something only you would think of and do, that's the furthest thing from my mind Imbicile, your proving to us more and more that your a ignorant being solely on the things that you say... I hope you don't have any children if so I fill sorry for them having a dad like yourself...


What is your mom's name?
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Thank you!
Posted By: Popapi Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Ackleyfan
Are you really going to try and compare the two....nice try! It sounds like your mind is already made up, will GOD forgive you for voting against his word....yes he will,It's just something you shouldn't need forgiveness for!
Not trying to compare anything I'm just going with how GOD leads me...
Posted By: mrfudd Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Stan V
she has no military experience


Hate to break it to you, but she does have military experience. She is the Commander in Chief of the National Guard, Air National Guard and state defense forces. Same title (CIC)that she would have as potential POTUS.
Posted By: crossfireoops Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Popapi
Originally Posted by Steelhead
I'm thinking you rank as the most [bleep] up person on the 'Fire, and that is by a pretty large margin.
Well there's me and others that think the same about you. wink


"me and others "

I would assure you,....you are a minority.

like little flecks of dung,.....on an elephant's behind.

GTC

Posted By: Popapi Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Steelhead
I'm happy to not be in your Pokeman group, trust me.

Yeah.................me too.
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I'm thinking McCain has enough military experience to cover his entire cabinet.
Posted By: Popapi Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Originally Posted by Popapi
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Your mom was, she was praying that my dad wouldn't stop......
Why did you delete that last post on "me jerking off" here's my stand on that...
Why do I need to masturbate while reading that is something only you would think of and do, that's the furthest thing from my mind Imbicile, your proving to us more and more that your a ignorant being solely on the things that you say... I hope you don't have any children if so I fill sorry for them having a dad like yourself...


What is your mom's name?
And yours?
Posted By: Popapi Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by crossfireoops
Originally Posted by Popapi
Originally Posted by Steelhead
I'm thinking you rank as the most [bleep] up person on the 'Fire, and that is by a pretty large margin.
Well there's me and others that think the same about you. wink


"me and others "

I would assure you,....you are a minority.

like little flecks of dung,.....on an elephant's behind.

GTC

AND
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Just wondering if you should start feeling sorry for yourself.
Posted By: mrfudd Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Steelhead
I'm thinking McCain has enough military experience to cover his entire cabinet.


He doesn't have military experience- he has Navy experience!- (spoken by a USAF type)
Posted By: Ken Howell Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Popapi
� I fill sorry for them having a dad like yourself...

The word is feel, Amigo � not "fill." Rhymes with eel, not ill.

(basic English vocabulary)

FWIW2U
Posted By: HUNTS Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
McCain's gonna kick off from cancer or something before long. No way her balls are big enough to step up to be Commander in Chief. Sorry.
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Better yet, she will let those in the know DO!
Posted By: Popapi Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Ken Howell
Originally Posted by Popapi
� I fill sorry for them having a dad like yourself...

The word is feel, Amigo � not "fill." Rhymes with eel, not ill.

(basic English vocabulary)

FWIW2U
Thank you Mr. Howell for the correction I appreciate that kind Sir and will go back to edit it's nice to see that you are reading my post although I do respect what you say and learn form yours hopefully I can do the same for you...
Posted By: Popapi Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Just wondering if you should start feeling sorry for yourself.
Why should I if my mentality was like yours then I would...
Posted By: Foxbat Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by HUNTS
McCain's gonna kick off from cancer or something before long. No way her balls are big enough to step up to be Commander in Chief. Sorry.


And Obama's are?

Seriously, you think Barry would be better in your foxhole than Palin?

Thatcher had no problem with it.
Posted By: RufusG Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by HUNTS
McCain's gonna kick off from cancer or something before long. No way her balls are big enough to step up to be Commander in Chief. Sorry.


We survived 4 years of Peanut Jim and 8 years of Clinton. She hunts big game. Carter's canoe got attacked by a rabbit. What's to worry?
Posted By: Ackleyfan Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Obama thinks he's GOD! smile
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
You ain't following, which isn't a surprise.
Posted By: Sassy Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Gee did anyone hear Sarah Palin of Alaska was selected as McCain's running mate.

Sorry thought we might get back to the subject of the thread.
Posted By: Popapi Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by HUNTS
McCain's gonna kick off from cancer or something before long. No way her balls are big enough to step up to be Commander in Chief. Sorry.
Hunt's eventhough he more than likely won't get my vote I hope and pray he(McCain) lives along time.
Posted By: Popapi Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Steelhead
You ain't following, which isn't a surprise.
I guess not...
Posted By: Middlefork_Miner Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Calvin
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Jorge, I'll happily donate a $100 the "Getting Jorge laid fund" if it will make you a happier dude..........


I'll Donate $100 to the "Getting Jorge a Dirty Sanchez" fund...
How bout a "Rusty Trombone?"
Posted By: Steelhead Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Sassy
Gee did anyone hear Sarah Palin of Alaska was selected as McCain's running mate.

Sorry thought we might get back to the subject of the thread.


Alaska Girls Kick Ass!
Posted By: Ken Howell Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
I don't recall even, ever, the slightest suspicion that Queen E or Margaret T ever emasculated the Brit warriors.
Posted By: Sassy Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
You got that right Steelhead. ROFL
Posted By: jorgeI Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Popapi
Originally Posted by jorgeI
So you're ok with Obama's views on abortion before AND after a child is born? And who doesn't bother to help his own brother who lives in a shack in the middle of Africa on twelve bucks a month? Better check with YOUR GOD on those and get back to us. jorge
Mr Jorge have you even heard his solid views as per abortion and what he thinks AFTER a child is born... Trust me I've checked with MY GOD and HOPEFULLY MY GOD is the same as yours if it's not then we can't even have these conversations................o and by the way as per my GOD in meaning GOD my creator, the creator of the Heavens and Earth, Lord Jesus Christ the SON of GOD, the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Bible is how I roll. I'm hoping and praying you ROLL that way to...... DO YOU?????? Lastly that "C" note you want to do is a DONE DEAL... wink


Words to live by: Your soul might belong to GOD, but your ASS belongs to this world and Obama gives unborn children and even those after birth no chance at all. So you keep thumping your bible there Papi, while Obama keeps killing babies. Check his record. He is for ALL types of abortion and to deny life even to those that are born with defects. You're three fries short of a Happy meal Ace...jorge
Posted By: jorgeI Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Art; Guess I missed the demotion, but it'll still be a cold day in hell when I'll let a coastie get away with anything. Hell I even have to train them to fly right. Ever check what their ings look like? smile

jorge
Posted By: Middlefork_Miner Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by Sassy
Gee did anyone hear Sarah Palin of Alaska was selected as McCain's running mate.

Sorry thought we might get back to the subject of the thread.
I personally wish Palin was on the top side of the ticket, with Johnny Mac sitting in the navigators seat. Her values are spot on.
Posted By: jorgeI Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/29/08
Originally Posted by mrfudd
Originally Posted by Steelhead
I'm thinking McCain has enough military experience to cover his entire cabinet.


He doesn't have military experience- he has Navy experience!- (spoken by a USAF type)

Ah, another one of our civilian counterparts chime in! smile jorge
Posted By: Popapi Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by Popapi
Originally Posted by jorgeI
So you're ok with Obama's views on abortion before AND after a child is born? And who doesn't bother to help his own brother who lives in a shack in the middle of Africa on twelve bucks a month? Better check with YOUR GOD on those and get back to us. jorge
Mr Jorge have you even heard his solid views as per abortion and what he thinks AFTER a child is born... Trust me I've checked with MY GOD and HOPEFULLY MY GOD is the same as yours if it's not then we can't even have these conversations................o and by the way as per my GOD in meaning GOD my creator, the creator of the Heavens and Earth, Lord Jesus Christ the SON of GOD, the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Bible is how I roll. I'm hoping and praying you ROLL that way to...... DO YOU?????? Lastly that "C" note you want to do is a DONE DEAL... wink


Words to live by: Your soul might belong to GOD, but your ASS belongs to this world and Obama gives unborn children and even those after birth no chance at all. So you keep thumping your bible there Papi, while Obama keeps killing babies. Check his record. He is for ALL types of abortion and to deny life even to those that are born with defects. You're three fries short of a Happy meal Ace...jorge
Yes my soul does belong to GOD like I said earlier as per Mr. Obama's rights on abortion that will be something I'll have to pray about, and yes I'll keep thumping the Bible to the grave that is something you should do to as well Mr. Jorge. So why question my mentality as in saying "I'm three fries short of a Happy meal". I've done nothing but respect you could you do the same for me, if not don't reply to my post and I'll do likewise and all we'll talk about is the "C note" after the elections in Nov...
Posted By: gmsemel Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
I have made no bones about John McCain as The GOP's Pick. I had problems with him and they were known on this Board. I planned on sitting this election out. Then things started, The Drill Here Drill Now got going, John Mc Cain at Saddle Back made a real good impression on me. I changed my mind, I will vote but not go out of my way about it, then John little congrations to that Obama guy, well now what? Then this morning, It was like that scene from the Movie "The Great Escape, the Americans were making Moonshine for 4th of July and every time they took a taste the said "Wow" Wow indeed. Talk about being blindsided, the man from Arizona sure can be ruthless when he wants to be. He is not an old man in his doatage. My guess he just hurts all the time, like George Day. I am going to see about working for the McCain/Palin ticket in the coming weeks.
Posted By: Ken Howell Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
I've flown with USN and USAF aviators � in carrier-deck landings and over-big-water navigation, the crown clearly belongs to the guys with the gold wings � otherwise, differences in critical skills are only the stuff of interservice pride and rivalry, IMHO.

FWIW, I'm Navy. Both of my brothers are USAF. Both Curt LeMay (USAF) and Joe Foss (USMC) were my friends and heroes.

Biased?
Definitely!
Pro-USN.
Pro-USAF.
Pro-USMC.
Posted By: Shag Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
I dig her roots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sandpoint Chick. Gotta like that.
Posted By: 17ACKLEYBEE Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Say Bristoe left the building looking for Elvis earlier today and I haven't seen him back.
Posted By: jwp475 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08


There was/is no better choice than Sarah Palin IMHO. Go Sarah [Linked Image]
Posted By: jorgeI Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by Popapi
all we'll talk about is the "C note" after the elections in Nov...
So we're in for a C note then? Just want it on record here so I can collect. orge
Posted By: jorgeI Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
It's all in good fun Ken, I'm sure you realize that smile jorge
Posted By: Popapi Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by Popapi
all we'll talk about is the "C note" after the elections in Nov...
So we're in for a C note then? Just want it on record here so I can collect. orge
Yeah without a doubt that's why I keep bringing it up don't want cha to get AMNESIA... I can't see McCain winning by 40 states you may as well put that "C" note in the mail on tomorrow... wink
Posted By: sourmash Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Outstanding, excellent choice, and brilliant strategic move- especially with the timing of the announcement.
She's so good, I'm almost tempted to vote Republican. Too bad McCain is still on the same ticket.
The trouble is, here in Michigan, voting GOP amounts to throwing away my vote.
Michigan is going Dem anyway, so I'm voting Third Party to show that I won't will not forget and overlook McCain/Feingold/McCain/Kennedy etc etc.
I'll be back to the GOP when the GOP comes back to me.

Posted By: VAnimrod Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
sourmash;

Michigan is very much in play in this election.
Posted By: HOGBUSTER Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Where can I get a truck load of campaign signs and bumper stickers? I now know who im voteing for! McCain and Wonderwoman. She is a LOOKER and brains boot! I like the fact that that she has not been corroupted by Washington.
Posted By: Ken Howell Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Oh, I know it, all right, Jorge, but I'm not sure that my understanding of anything is typical of the Campfire consensus on it. IOW, I'm sure that a significant number here don't know that interservice pride and rivalry are friendly, mutually respectful jousting, not based on real, significant differences in ability.
Posted By: Powerguy Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by Steelhead
I'm thinking you rank as the most [bleep] up person on the 'Fire, and that is by a pretty large margin.





Does Lee24 know he lost his title?
Posted By: Taconic11 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
McCain & Palin in 08, Moose Liver in every Pot!
Posted By: Birdwatcher Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Quote
IT'S PALIN FOX just confirmed!!


I wished I woulda thought up what I heard on the radio today....


"For the first time in my life I feel PROUD to be a Republican." grin
Posted By: nemesis Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Holy smokes.............546 posts and 28 pages.

Sure is pretty clear what the people on this forum are interested in right now.

Good show!
Posted By: Powerguy Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by Powerguy
Jorge, this thread has allowed sand to blow into your vagina(in a refreshing way) grin

Relax and smile it is the weekend ol chap

Let me guess, you're from Alaska too. jorge



No Sir, I can just hear the sand particles rubbing togethor from here.

Haven't you done enough aviation chest beating for one night?

We are all proud of you.

Thank you for your continued service to our great nation.

To help out a fellow service member: I am willing to pitch in with Steelhead for your getting laid fund. grin
Posted By: The_Real_Hawkeye Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by Popapi
Originally Posted by Ackleyfan
As a Christian I Don't think..I know it would be wrong for me to vote for a Man That professes to be "Christian and is Pro abortion and I don't even need to ask GOD if it is wrong! And the 20 years he spent in a church that spewed the hate they did, does speak volumes of the kind a person he is,that you cannot see thru him is amazing!
I judge NO man I leave that to GOD all I can/will do is PRAY for him...
"Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine." II Timothy IV, 3
Posted By: jorgeI Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Oh so you're a coastie then? Nah, that's ok, I don't need the money with my flight pay and all and besides, I'm very. very happy with my wife. You have no idea.... And I have a big watch...j"service member?" my, how "PC" of you wink jorge
Posted By: hunter1960 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by HOGBUSTER
Where can I get a truck load of campaign signs and bumper stickers? I now know who im voteing for! McCain and Wonderwoman. She is a LOOKER and brains boot! I like the fact that that she has not been corroupted by Washington.


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Contact your county Republican party HQ. for campaign material. Thank goodness east TN. is primarily Repub. it's hit or miss here in Mid. and all Dem in W. Tn.
Posted By: Powerguy Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Oh so you're a coastie then? Nah, that's ok, I don't need the money with my flight pay and all and besides, I'm very. very happy with my wife. You have no idea.... And I have a big watch...j"service member?" my, how "PC" of you wink jorge




Nope, Coastie it is not. Glad to hear you are very happy with your wife.

What you didn't realize is that we are paying her to lay you! grin

Didn't even see that one coming did you...grin

All in fun you know!
Posted By: Partsman Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
She cleans up well.
[Linked Image]
Posted By: 340boy Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Yowza!
Posted By: shreck Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by Partsman
She cleans up well.
[Linked Image]


I call photoshoppe!!!!
Her head is too big.
Posted By: derby_dude Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
I think all you young pups are thinking with your little head instead of your big head.

Yup she is cute but I have trouble with a women who is suppose to be conservative with 5 kids that someone else has to care for especially with one that has DS. That's not conservative to me.

A conservative women would stay home to tend to the kids.

I feel sorry for her children without a Mom. frown
Posted By: Steve_NO Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
dude, you obviously don't know dick about working women. And have a weird definition of conservative.


Now, if she expected YOU to pay to take care of her kids, that wouldn't be conservative.
Posted By: shreck Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
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A conservative women would stay home to tend to the kids.


These kids actually have a dad. He could, you know, keep an eye on them.

I always got a kick out of Rosanne Barrs quip when her husband came home, "the kids are alive, I did my job". grin
Posted By: Everyday Hunter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by shreck
Originally Posted by Partsman
She cleans up well.
[Linked Image]


I call photoshoppe!!!!
Her head is too big.

Yup. This is an easy one. Look at the hard lines around her hair.

Steve
Posted By: Everyday Hunter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by derby_dude
I think all you young pups are thinking with your little head instead of your big head.

Yup she is cute but I have trouble with a women who is suppose to be conservative with 5 kids that someone else has to care for especially with one that has DS. That's not conservative to me.

A conservative women would stay home to tend to the kids.

I feel sorry for her children without a Mom. frown

I thought a real woman could have it all -- career, kids, yada, yada. A conservative comes along with the life the feminazis have been preaching that all women can have, she has 5 kids, refuses an abortion, rises to the top in a man's world, she's beautiful, and suddenly she's accused of not being conservative. You'd rather she was ugly?

Steve
Posted By: Barkoff Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by Sassy
Originally Posted by Barak's Womn
Originally Posted by RufusG
I voted for Bush twice.

So you live in Chicago??


That was good Penny. Crossed my mind too.


Ahh, not me, I had to read it two times before the light bulb lit up.
Posted By: Alamosa Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
I kinda dig this photo.
[Linked Image]
Posted By: Bristoe Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by isaac
but I don't think she'll make a difference in the voting.
___________________

According to blogging sites and the enormous amount of e-mails Fox, alone, is getting, she's already made a difference.



Anyone who watches FOX is already a McCain supporter.

Like I said,..he broke even with the pick.


Wrong again. It is a FACT, indpendently verified, that the Fox news audience is 39% democrap. jorge


If so, it's only because they consider it satire.
Posted By: Barkoff Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Miss T has seen her in underwear...


Can she log on & tell us about it?
Posted By: Nebraska Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by slymule
Hell, I'm hoping he strokes out the first week after he takes the oath and is to disabled to stay in office. We can all only hope!

This country needs a Palin for the Presidency, we're all tired of the same old money grubbing lying politicians that have spent their whole life sucking on the government's teat.


That's mean....but.... whistle grin
Posted By: Sycamore Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Your mom was, she was praying that my dad wouldn't stop......


Now I'm confused....you guys are brothers? Wow, family reunion/feud right here on the campfire!

Sycamore
Posted By: 17ACKLEYBEE Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
[quote=Bristoe
If so, it's only because they consider it satire. [/quote]

Ah just like one of your posts bistro.
Posted By: Bristoe Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by panhandle
Yea, this time I had a feeling he was really pissed.


Nothing to do with da innanet or politics pisses me off. I just enjoy watching the forum horn dogs get their panties in a snit over some moderately attractive woman that's been picked to be the veep candidate for McCain.

As I said in my first post in this thread,..I have nothing against Palin,....but she has about as much vice president pedigree as the typical mayor of a medium sized city.

McCain only picked her to garner the sexually repressed, beer bellied, red state crowd,...with a hope that she would appeal to the Hillary bunch.

He broke even. The beer bellied, red state, horn dogs were going to vote for him anyway,..and Palin will just further piss off the bun faced Hillary dowds.

Maybe a coupla thousand crotch scratchin' Budweiser boys will turn out to vote that wouldn't have,... but not enough to make any kind of meaningful difference.
Posted By: Barkoff Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by panhandle
Yea, this time I had a feeling he was really pissed.


Nothing to do with da innanet or politics pisses me off. I just enjoy watching the forum horn dogs get their panties in a snit over some moderately attractive woman that's been picked to be the veep candidate for McCain.

As I said in my first post in this thread,..I have nothing against Palin,....but she has about as much vice president pedigree as the typical mayor of a medium sized city.

McCain only picked her to garner the sexually repressed, beer bellied, red state crowd,...with a hope that she would appeal to the Hillary bunch.

He broke even. The beer bellied, red state, horn dogs were going to vote for him anyway,..and Palin will just further piss off the bun faced Hillary dowds.

Maybe a coupla thousand crotch scratchin' Budweiser boys will turn out to vote that wouldn't have,... but not enough to make any kind of meaningful difference.


So you dig her too, huh?
Posted By: Bristoe Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by Barak's Womn
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Palin will have no impact on McCain's administration whatsoever.

She's just window dressing.

Why is it that when a woman is attractive, men just assume that she has nothing else to offer?


There's thousands of ugly women out there (multi millions, actually) with more credentials than Palin.

Perhaps you should wonder why McCain didn't select them.
Posted By: Armen Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
What an excellent choice. From my perspective Sarah has gotten more accomplished as Gov. of Alaska than Obama has as Senator. Obama is a great orator, but I don't see where he has done anything lasting or substantive as a Senator. Has he even led any successful committees? At least Palin has executive experience and actually follows through on her leadership responsibilities. She also "walks the talk". She not only opposes abortion, she chose to keep her baby after finding out he would be born w/ Downs Syndrome. And as one commentator stated, she not only votes pro NRA, she shoots a caribou, skins it, cooks it, and feeds it to her family!

Rich
Posted By: Bristoe Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by Barkoff
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by panhandle
Yea, this time I had a feeling he was really pissed.


Nothing to do with da innanet or politics pisses me off. I just enjoy watching the forum horn dogs get their panties in a snit over some moderately attractive woman that's been picked to be the veep candidate for McCain.

As I said in my first post in this thread,..I have nothing against Palin,....but she has about as much vice president pedigree as the typical mayor of a medium sized city.

McCain only picked her to garner the sexually repressed, beer bellied, red state crowd,...with a hope that she would appeal to the Hillary bunch.

He broke even. The beer bellied, red state, horn dogs were going to vote for him anyway,..and Palin will just further piss off the bun faced Hillary dowds.

Maybe a coupla thousand crotch scratchin' Budweiser boys will turn out to vote that wouldn't have,... but not enough to make any kind of meaningful difference.


So you dig her too, huh?


I'd "dig" her more if she hadn't set aside her principals in order to run with McCain.

But then,...she's a politician. "Principals" aren't their strong suit.
Posted By: slideaction Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
At first I wasn't happy with a women as a VP. But after learning about her I have changed my mind! She is everything we would want if she was a man. She hunts, fishes, pro-gun and believes we need to drill in Alaska. Let's face it, she's better then McCain. grin
Posted By: Bristoe Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6MVmv1OY6Q
Posted By: dave7mm Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Bristoe,
No wonder your "off", listening to a clown ass like that.
dave
Posted By: 1akhunter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
c'mon Bristoe, you talk about Fox bias and then you put up a clip of CNN discussing the demerits of picking Palin.

I thought Brian Williams was gonna cry today during her acceptance speech.

was the favorite part of the last election for me last time, watching Dan Rather trying to fight back the tears and holding out hope for Ohio. it was must see TV.

oh and B. good news, she ain't a politician, I know it seems to good to be true, but it is.

I hope she can keep from becoming one in DC.
Posted By: Steve_NO Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
so Bristoe, you hate all politicians because they're all lying swine (except the sainted Ron Paul, of course) but someone who hasn't been a politician for a long time is not qualified to hold public office? Is that it?


By the way, do you think she might be a Jew? What was her maiden name? Is she on AIPAC's payroll yet?
Posted By: NathanL Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
I think the "new" will wear off her rather quickly.

Sad to say it's probably what McCain needed. Someone with some sizzle.

It's what America demands now....go back and read all 29 pages so far. Maybe (a big maybe) 1 in 10 post have anything to do with her ability, beliefs, etc.....5 in 10 deal with pure looks.

Sad day.

She's probably a great candidate in an American Idol type of a way. Sadly.
Posted By: Steve_NO Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
You need to work on your comprehension, Nate. I saw a lot of comments on how conservative she is, much more than McC on some issues, particularly guns and ANWR, and her history as a reformer and pork buster. If the pick had been Romney, the same media douchebags would have been saying he's just a pretty face. Of the two, I prefer Palin. Both on the merits and on looks.
Posted By: Bristoe Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by Steve_NO
Jew?
Posted By: Bristoe Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by dave7mm
Bristoe,
No wonder your "off",


"You're", dammit,... "YOU'RE!!!!"


If you ever expect to be taken seriously on the internet,..the base requirement is that you learn the proper contraction for "you are".

Grammer books are cheap.

Buy one.
Posted By: hunter1960 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
I saw a flash on the bottom of a TV screen today, that mentioned that Paulin was under investigation. I pulled up a PNW newspaper and it didn't give alot of info. other then she was under investigation, regarding the handling of an employee issue, in the Ak. Dept of Safety. Does anyone know anything about this or is it BS out of Juneau?

People claim don't sweat the small stuff, but's it's the small stuff, that causes the largest problems. I hope this doesn't turn into a problem.
Posted By: Ken Howell Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by dave7mm
Bristoe,
No wonder your "off",


"You're", dammit,... "YOU'RE!!!!"


If you ever expect to be taken seriously on the internet,..the base requirement is that you learn the proper contraction for "you are".

Grammer books are cheap.

Buy one.

And grammar is in every dictionary.
Posted By: NathanL Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by Steve_NO
You need to work on your comprehension, Nate. I saw a lot of comments on how conservative she is, much more than McC on some issues, particularly guns and ANWR, and her history as a reformer and pork buster. If the pick had been Romney, the same media douchebags would have been saying he's just a pretty face. Of the two, I prefer Palin. Both on the merits and on looks.


"Of the two.."

That's EXACTLY my point. In a country of nearly 300 million we're down to a choice of the 4-6 thrown out in the last 6 months. Give me a break.

We either had a choice of re-runs from the last 25 years who have hung around or political and intellectual lightweights.

I hate to say it but the McCain pick is Clintonish to me, Bill Clintonish. He perfected the triangulation and that's exactly what I fear McCain has done with his VP pick. Throw a broad enough net to pick up this demogrpahic and that demographic and at the end of the day nobody knows what you are.

A maverick? No. Just a triangulator much like Billy boy was. Figure out what people want you to say and do that - today and then change it tomorrow.
Posted By: dave7mm Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Ken Howell
Tool and die maker by trade.
I figure I got my point across.
There aint to much you can say to a woman thats got one son headed to the sandbox and another has DS.She will do fine.
dave
Posted By: smokepole Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by hunter1960
I saw a flash on the bottom of a TV screen today, that mentioned that Paulin was under investigation. I pulled up a PNW newspaper and it didn't give alot of info. other then she was under investigation, regarding the handling of an employee issue, in the Ak. Dept of Safety. Does anyone know anything about this or is it BS out of Juneau?


My brother told me he'd heard that the gov.'s sister was married to a LEO, and the LEO was beating her (the sister). So the gov. put some pressure on to have the LEO fired.

I say, good on her for looking out for her sister. If it's true, the guy is lucky to have only been fired.
Posted By: Tod Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
[Linked Image]
Posted By: Steve_NO Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
So McCain goes out and gets a hard right, gun-totin, governor with a history of fighting pork....and your response is it's Clintonish triangulation. What would it have been if he'd picked a leftie like Lieberman?

What would have been a non-triangulated pick of which you'd approve? I don't know of any other 73 year old naval aviator/senators.....he's got to pick someone not the same as himself. I'm glad he picked someone closer to me ideologically. If the fact she's a chick gets some votes away from Bambi, I'm OK with that. Until we have an IQ test for voting, you have to get elected by the people who actually live here.....the same ones who make American Idol a hit show. Go figure.
Posted By: hunter1960 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by hunter1960
I saw a flash on the bottom of a TV screen today, that mentioned that Paulin was under investigation. I pulled up a PNW newspaper and it didn't give alot of info. other then she was under investigation, regarding the handling of an employee issue, in the Ak. Dept of Safety. Does anyone know anything about this or is it BS out of Juneau?


My brother told me he'd heard that the gov.'s sister was married to a LEO, and the LEO was beating her (the sister). So the gov. put some pressure on to have the LEO fired.

I say, good on her for looking out for her sister. If it's true, the guy is lucky to have only been fired.


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Ok, thanks
Posted By: Bristoe Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by Ken Howell
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by dave7mm
Bristoe,
No wonder your "off",


"You're", dammit,... "YOU'RE!!!!"


If you ever expect to be taken seriously on the internet,..the base requirement is that you learn the proper contraction for "you are".

Grammer books are cheap.

Buy one.

And grammar is in every dictionary.


lol,..touche',...
Posted By: NathanL Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
How can you be soooo excited about this choice and this election?

We know for a FACT no matter who gets elected nothing is going to be better than it is today, which isn't saying a lot.

Again, how did the republican party get in such sad shape that this is where we are today?

We have one candidate who talks about "change" picking one of the top 5 longest serving members of the senate as his VP.

Another who gripes about his opponents lack of experience and then picks a political flyweight.

I'm just disgusted. I'm glad I'm in a posistion that I won't have to deal with 95% of the crap the rest of the country will have to in the next 4-8 years.
Posted By: Bristoe Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by NathanL
How can you be soooo excited about this choice and this election?



McCain could have picked the Burger King "Hamburglar" for his veep,...and Steve_NO woulda been crowin' 'bout,..

"Just look at the size of his head!. The man is a genius!"
Posted By: Tracks Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by hunter1960
Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by hunter1960
I saw a flash on the bottom of a TV screen today, that mentioned that Paulin was under investigation. I pulled up a PNW newspaper and it didn't give alot of info. other then she was under investigation, regarding the handling of an employee issue, in the Ak. Dept of Safety. Does anyone know anything about this or is it BS out of Juneau?


My brother told me he'd heard that the gov.'s sister was married to a LEO, and the LEO was beating her (the sister). So the gov. put some pressure on to have the LEO fired.

I say, good on her for looking out for her sister. If it's true, the guy is lucky to have only been fired.


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Ok, thanks

I heard, but don't know for sure, that when questions about her administrations integrity came up, she ordered the investigation herself.
If true that sounds like a damn fine person
Posted By: Barkoff Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
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Another who gripes about his opponents lack of experience and then picks a political flyweight.


I'm thinking McCain might have a better handle on her capabilities than all of us, and I'm betting he is pretty sure she will impress when given the opportunity.

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She's not -- she's not from these parts and she's not from Washington. But when you get to know her, you're going to be as impressed as I am.
John McCain


OK, I'm willing to see how she impresses before I judge.

Posted By: hunter1960 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by dave7mm
Ken Howell
Tool and die maker by trade.
I figure I got my point across.
There aint to much you can say to a woman thats got one son headed to the sandbox and another has DS.She will do fine.
dave


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When the Repub's win, i wonder if Palin's son, will get pulled out of, i've heard he's being deployed to both, Iraq or Afghan. He would be quite the prize for the badguys to capture or kill.

Maybe McCain will tell her BTDT, it's not worth the risk, don't know have to wait and see. I know the Brit's pulled Harry out of Afghan.
Posted By: toltecgriz Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Sarah said he was headed to Iraq with a combat brigade.

Working mothers who didn't think they had any interest in the race this year are going to flock to Palin. I think picking her was a stroke of genius.
Posted By: hunter1960 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by toltecgriz
Sarah said he was headed to Iraq with a combat brigade.

Working mothers who didn't think they had any interest in the race this year are going to flock to Palin. I think picking her was a stroke of genius.


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It was a good choice, no doubt about it. I thinks he's in one of those Streyker Brigades out of Ft. Lewis. Which if your not familiar is a wheeled tank.
Posted By: Ken Howell Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by dave7mm
Ken Howell
Tool and die maker by trade.
I figure I got my point across.
There aint to much you can say to a woman thats got one son headed to the sandbox and another has DS.She will do fine.

Did I say anything to you?
Posted By: kciH Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
I'm guessing since there are millions, you'd have no problem listing 10 or 20...right.

Posted By: Sitka deer Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by hunter1960
Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by hunter1960
I saw a flash on the bottom of a TV screen today, that mentioned that Paulin was under investigation. I pulled up a PNW newspaper and it didn't give alot of info. other then she was under investigation, regarding the handling of an employee issue, in the Ak. Dept of Safety. Does anyone know anything about this or is it BS out of Juneau?


My brother told me he'd heard that the gov.'s sister was married to a LEO, and the LEO was beating her (the sister). So the gov. put some pressure on to have the LEO fired.

I say, good on her for looking out for her sister. If it's true, the guy is lucky to have only been fired.


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Ok, thanks


Actually, the charge was fooling around on, not beating and there has been much made of the family (including Sarah personally) making 29 police reports on him (Trooper Wooten) and only one stuck.

Palin fans say it is because the Troopers are looking out for their own. Cynics call it Jr. High drama.

The one police filing that stuck Wooten admitted to instantly. Sarah's sis drew a moose tag but could not shoo tthe moose when time came and she told Wooten to. He did. The family... all of the family butchered, packed and ate the moose. Only after safe delivery to the septic tank did they report Wooten's misdeed.

Problem was Sarah could not get Wooten fired, even when pressuring her head of Public Safety Walt Monegan. So she fired Walt, a very popular guy. Aids have been falling all over themselves and their epees saying any pressure they may have conveyed to Walt was their own idea and Sarah had no part in it...

Close friend works closely with her and he has seen things change inside the administration that he does not like... Quite a few rats are leaving her ship... I suspect they will be grabbing with everythign they have at this point to get back on the boat...
art
Posted By: Swift Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
She will be just fine. As close to a normal person as we may ever see in the Whitehouse in our lifetime.
Posted By: Barkoff Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
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Actually, the charge was fooling around on, not beating and there has been much made of the family (including Sarah personally) making 29 police reports on him (Trooper Wooten) and only one stuck.


Begs to question then, 29 police reports, so was the sister objecting to this, still living with the trooper while all these accusations were being made?

Seems like sister would have been out of the house after four or five, or telling her sister to stop filing charges.
Posted By: arctic338 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by Barkoff
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Actually, the charge was fooling around on, not beating and there has been much made of the family (including Sarah personally) making 29 police reports on him (Trooper Wooten) and only one stuck.


Begs to question then, 29 police reports, so was the sister objecting to this, still living with the trooper while all these accusations were being made?

Seems like sister would have been out of the house after four or five, or telling her sister to stop filing charges.


He was arrested for tasing his own son. From what I have heard he is a butt wipe and the troopers are protecting their own.
Posted By: Sitka deer Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
He has been divorced four times... An indicator of his good character??? But several claims made by Sarah were dismissed by the investigator as impossible to have witnessed as claimed.
Posted By: isaac Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
If that's her only baggage the minions have to play with, I'd rest comfortably.

Further, McCain's team exhausted the scenario's likely defense strategy, as well. I doubt they're worried about the issue.
Posted By: Hindsite Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
She's a women of action and the LEO sounds like he got what he deserved.

I don't think a lot of people will have sympathy for a wife beating cop!
Posted By: BMR Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
The only thing that will be too bad if McCain is elected is her husband and kids will have to leave the beauty of Alaska to move to this Third World infested cesspool of the DC metro area. I've got less than two years left here, and I can't wait to get out.
Posted By: The_Real_Hawkeye Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by Bristoe
"If something happened to the president, who would you rather have running the country, Sarah Palin or Joe Biden?" Hands down, Sarah Palin. She has a grounding in the kinds of principles that make her by far preferable to Biden, and unlike Biden, she's actually been a chief executive in command of a defense force. That said, I place more stock in a person's character than I do in their experience when it comes to selecting a president.
Posted By: The_Real_Hawkeye Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by NathanL
How can you be soooo excited about this choice and this election?

We know for a FACT no matter who gets elected nothing is going to be better than it is today, which isn't saying a lot.

Again, how did the republican party get in such sad shape that this is where we are today?

We have one candidate who talks about "change" picking one of the top 5 longest serving members of the senate as his VP.

Another who gripes about his opponents lack of experience and then picks a political flyweight.

I'm just disgusted. I'm glad I'm in a posistion that I won't have to deal with 95% of the crap the rest of the country will have to in the next 4-8 years.
All this about having to have been part of the Washington establishment in order to be qualified to be president is BS. The further from that the better. The main qualifiers in my book are character, and being right on the issues. She scores very highly on those two criteria. Now add to the above the fact that she has executive experience (mayor of a city, governor of a state) and you have some pretty nice icing on that cake.
Posted By: Sassy Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
I don't believe I've seen the real point of picking Sarah Palin.

To me the main point is she will improve McCain's chances of being elected as good as they are AND when a lot of people vote for McCain they will also vote Republican in the congressional races which would change the face of our government and get it back to representing the people not special interests. It would also get Nancy Pelosi off of her throne.

McCain won't have a chance when he wins unless we also get a Republican congress back.
Posted By: Plinker Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
B. Hussein Obama has 144 total days of real service in government. Isn't that experience?
Posted By: hunter1960 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Originally Posted by hunter1960
Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by hunter1960
I saw a flash on the bottom of a TV screen today, that mentioned that Paulin was under investigation. I pulled up a PNW newspaper and it didn't give alot of info. other then she was under investigation, regarding the handling of an employee issue, in the Ak. Dept of Safety. Does anyone know anything about this or is it BS out of Juneau?


My brother told me he'd heard that the gov.'s sister was married to a LEO, and the LEO was beating her (the sister). So the gov. put some pressure on to have the LEO fired.

I say, good on her for looking out for her sister. If it's true, the guy is lucky to have only been fired.


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Ok, thanks


Actually, the charge was fooling around on, not beating and there has been much made of the family (including Sarah personally) making 29 police reports on him (Trooper Wooten) and only one stuck.

Palin fans say it is because the Troopers are looking out for their own. Cynics call it Jr. High drama.

The one police filing that stuck Wooten admitted to instantly. Sarah's sis drew a moose tag but could not shoo tthe moose when time came and she told Wooten to. He did. The family... all of the family butchered, packed and ate the moose. Only after safe delivery to the septic tank did they report Wooten's misdeed.

Problem was Sarah could not get Wooten fired, even when pressuring her head of Public Safety Walt Monegan. So she fired Walt, a very popular guy. Aids have been falling all over themselves and their epees saying any pressure they may have conveyed to Walt was their own idea and Sarah had no part in it...

Close friend works closely with her and he has seen things change inside the administration that he does not like... Quite a few rats are leaving her ship... I suspect they will be grabbing with everythign they have at this point to get back on the boat...
art

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Thank you for the info.
Posted By: shreck Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by Bristoe


Bristoe, I watched until the commentator flat out lied, about 25 seconds of it.
His lie, "Sare Palin has less experience than Obama".
Oddly enough the day the Obamanator� was sworn into the senate Miss. Palin was in her fifth year of elected office.
You gotta quit listening to lies and distortions Bristoe, it'll cloud yer judgment.
Posted By: hunter1960 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by Sassy
I don't believe I've seen the real point of picking Sarah Palin.

To me the main point is she will improve McCain's chances of being elected as good as they are AND when a lot of people vote for McCain they will also vote Republican in the congressional races which would change the face of our government and get it back to representing the people not special interests. It would also get Nancy Pelosi off of her throne.

McCain won't have a chance when he wins unless we also get a Republican congress back.


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Exactly, this election isn't all about the POTUS/VP, it's also about regaining control of the House & Senate. If McCain wins with a Dem. congress, nothing will change. If Obama wins and the Repub's can control the congress, we at least can have some control on him. Please vote to regain control of congress, to the Repub's in your state elections.
Posted By: jorgeI Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by dave7mm
Bristoe,
No wonder your "off",


"You're", dammit,... "YOU'RE!!!!"


If you ever expect to be taken seriously on the internet,..the base requirement is that you learn the proper contraction for "you are".

Grammer books are cheap.

Buy one.


This from a man who can't even spell at the 4th grade level and is wrong 99.999% of the time! lol! jorge
Posted By: Stan V Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Reagan won without being a Washington insider, but he was in his late 60's and was governor of the most populated state in the Union that budget wise was larger than most countries.....he had a lifetime of conservative values and experience. A lifetime.....and he was voted the nomination based on what he said and how he conducted himself during the primaries.

Now, I'm happy Mrs. Palin is conservative and everything we look for in a candidate, but would she have been this attractive (policy wise) 2 years ago before becoming governor of Alaska? Her looks don't hurt her and that's a fact! I don't want to see conservatives being selected for VP from city counsel's next....I simply prefer more seasoning. Just like my BBQ ribs......
Posted By: ropes Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Lets see ... Sister Sarah may have been called "barracuda" but she is also known as the "Wasilla Barbie" ..... she is not known for her intelligence.

She has about a 'medium' rating by most Alaskans on how she has done since she became Gov. Not a stellar or excellent Gubernatorialship at all.

She was all for our 'bridge to nowhere' before the media hype on it ... Then she was totally against it. But she did snarfull all those Fed $'s up and use it for Anchorage area projects. Also at the same time she canceled or postponed many much needed DOT project here in S SE Ak except the part of the 'bridge to nowhere' $'s used to continue the 'road to nowhere' (which is just about complete and ends at the abutment to the 'bridge to nowhere') ......

Even though, when asked about her views on moving the capitol to Anchorage, during her election, she said she was totally against it. But she is on record, many times, supporting the capitol move. She is now conducting business out of her Anchorage office.

I think she'll fit right in with the 'good ole boy network' !!!!!
Posted By: fish30ought6 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
77-80% approval rating is "medium?"

hmmmm ...
Posted By: Barkoff Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by Stan V
Reagan won without being a Washington insider, but he was in his late 60's and was governor of the most populated state in the Union that budget wise was larger than most countries.....he had a lifetime of conservative values and experience. A lifetime.....and he was voted the nomination based on what he said and how he conducted himself during the primaries.

Now, I'm happy Mrs. Palin is conservative and everything we look for in a candidate, but would she have been this attractive (policy wise) 2 years ago before becoming governor of Alaska? Her looks don't hurt her and that's a fact! I don't want to see conservatives being selected for VP from city counsel's next....I simply prefer more seasoning. Just like my BBQ ribs......


To question why Palin is a good choice, you need to ask why Obama is a good choice. If Obama can rally this kind of support with no experience but rather, youth, good looks and personality, well then maybe in this day and age that needs to be considered.
Posted By: ropes Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
There is quite a difference when a pollster phones you up and asks you 2 questions .... do you Approve or Disapprove of her .... compared to what kind of job she is doing.
Posted By: 1akhunter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
yeah ropes, really appreciate your support of our governor.


fish sniffed that one out right away.


now I understand the old saw "go pizz up a rope"
Posted By: Stan V Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by Barkoff
Originally Posted by Stan V
Reagan won without being a Washington insider, but he was in his late 60's and was governor of the most populated state in the Union that budget wise was larger than most countries.....he had a lifetime of conservative values and experience. A lifetime.....and he was voted the nomination based on what he said and how he conducted himself during the primaries.

Now, I'm happy Mrs. Palin is conservative and everything we look for in a candidate, but would she have been this attractive (policy wise) 2 years ago before becoming governor of Alaska? Her looks don't hurt her and that's a fact! I don't want to see conservatives being selected for VP from city counsel's next....I simply prefer more seasoning. Just like my BBQ ribs......


To question why Palin is a good choice, you need to ask why Obama is a good choice. If Obama can rally this kind of support with no experience but rather, youth, good looks and personality, well then maybe in this day and age that needs to be considered.



Don't we conservatives expect the left to nominate clueless worms like O? Palin was selected, not nominated......
Posted By: 340mag Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
PALIN MUST be a good choice! ....EVERY last liberal I talk too has NOTHING but venom and blood,lies shooting out of every opening in thier body at the news
Posted By: derby_dude Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by shreck
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A conservative women would stay home to tend to the kids.


These kids actually have a dad. He could, you know, keep an eye on them.

I always got a kick out of Rosanne Barrs quip when her husband came home, "the kids are alive, I did my job". grin


Dad works on a fishing fleet about 6 months out of the year and 6 months on the pipe line. The only time the kids see Dad is when he comes home to put the wood to Mom. That's why they have 5 kids.

Oh where's Bristoe when you need him????? grin
Posted By: antlers Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by Tod
[Linked Image]


Hot Damn!
Posted By: ropes Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08

Ever think she might not be as popular down here in SE as she is up around Fairbanks.

Many Ketchikan people thinks she slammed us pretty hard yesterday in her acceptance speech.

Today Ketchikan Daily News headlines ... "McCain taps AK's Palin for VP" followed by "Local Activist Surprised" followed by "Palin pick raises eyebrows at home" followed by "Choice stuns local, State pols"
Posted By: Sitka deer Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Randy
Those folks in SE are still smarting from the inaguration being moved out of Juneau and the fact she does not want to play the "Hiding out in Juneau" game the legislature loves so dearly. Imagine being bothered by the populace actually wanting to see how they operate down there without a big airfare and hotel bill to do it.

Then there is that disingenuous thing about the cap move and confusing the issue between Anchorage and elsewhere. Palin is oppose to moving the cap to Anchorage... as is everyone else... But like all but SE she is in favor of moving it out of Juneau.
art
Posted By: Sassy Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
They are probably stunned that they weren't asked their permission for her to accept the offer.
Posted By: Waders Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Female.
High school sports star.
Married her high school sweetheart.
Hockey mom who wanted to make a difference.
City Council.
Coached youth sports.
Husband is in a union.
Hunts and fishes.
NRA life member.
Has a child with a disability.
Presents well (aka--easy on the eyes).
Husband is part native Eskimo.
Son in the military.
Son in the military scheduled deploy overseas on 9/11.
Conservative.
Track record for not taking crap and instead cleaning up govt.


I can live with that!


Posted By: ropes Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08

"But like all but SE she is in favor of moving it out of Juneau."

Seems like I remember voting on that issue about 3 or 4 times and I haven't ever seen it pass or be moved North yet !!!!

And Ketchikan Daily is known as a hard core conservative / Republican newspaper.
Posted By: arctic338 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by ropes
Lets see ... Sister Sarah may have been called "barracuda" but she is also known as the "Wasilla Barbie" ..... she is not known for her intelligence.

She has about a 'medium' rating by most Alaskans on how she has done since she became Gov. Not a stellar or excellent Gubernatorialship at all.

She was all for our 'bridge to nowhere' before the media hype on it ... Then she was totally against it. But she did snarfull all those Fed $'s up and use it for Anchorage area projects. Also at the same time she canceled or postponed many much needed DOT project here in S SE Ak except the part of the 'bridge to nowhere' $'s used to continue the 'road to nowhere' (which is just about complete and ends at the abutment to the 'bridge to nowhere') ......

Even though, when asked about her views on moving the capitol to Anchorage, during her election, she said she was totally against it. But she is on record, many times, supporting the capitol move. She is now conducting business out of her Anchorage office.

I think she'll fit right in with the 'good ole boy network' !!!!!


She has over an 80% approval rating up here, hardly "medium." That is almost 10 times what the congress has. And if anyone won't fit the good ole boy network it is Sarah. Knowledge of an issue would be good before speaking.
Posted By: Ken Howell Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Heard that she drives her own SUV about the state on state business. Hard to do from Juneau, IIRC.
Posted By: Sitka deer Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
DD
Most North Slope jobs are on a two-weeks on, two-weeks off schedule and that actually leaves a LOT more time for Todd to be a father. I did it for 23 years.

The Bristol Bay salmon run lasts about 3 weeks and the kids are probably out there with Todd having the absolute best times of their lives. It is more about the lifestyle than anything else.
art
Posted By: Sitka deer Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Cannot find the post that keeps bringing up "Tasing his step-son" but this is a C&P from ADN on the investigation. Not real bright on his part, but hardly what it is being made to sound like, either...

"TASING THE STEPSON

One day -- maybe a year or two before the investigation -- Wooten showed his stepson his Taser. He had just been to Taser instructor school. Wooten told Sgt. Wall that the boy was fascinated and pleaded to be tased.

"So we went in our living room and I had him get down on his knees so he wouldn't fall. And I taped the probes to him and turned the Taser on for like a second, turned it off. He thought that was the greatest thing in the world, wanted to do it again," Wooten told the investigator. The boy flinched but nothing more, he said. The boy was about 11 at the time.

In his interview with troopers, the stepson said it hurt for about a second, according to Wall's report. The boy said he wanted to be tased to show his cousin, Palin's daughter Bristol, that he wasn't a mama's boy. The probe left a welt on his arm, he said. His mother was upstairs yelling at them not to do it, the boy said.

As Bristol remembered it, the jolt knocked the boy backward, the trooper report says. She said she was afraid.

The probes are attached by thin wires to the Taser cartridge. In the field, an officer fires the probes into a suspect's skin or clothing and the suspect receives a jolt of electricity for five seconds, said Steve Tuttle, a spokesman for Taser International, which makes the devices. They are only incapacitated during that time. In demos, the probes might be taped to a person so that they don't accidentally strike an eye or injure the volunteer, he said. If the Taser is fired for just a second, it would feel like your funny bone was hit but the quick jolt wouldn't knock you over, Tuttle said."

art

Posted By: isaac Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Guys...with all considered respect, Alaska just moved to DC.

It's big boy time now. Local Alaska won't be a real deciding factor in the gig now!!

Sorry, but it's a fact.

If Palin keeps her roots, as she undoubtedly will, a local cop tasing their kid and some nepotism like sparring over a ugly divorce is a mere whimper of noise compared to the real game once once you hit this beltway.

Palin will be hit by the real big time now. This is not softball.

She's being educated on the DC world of politics as we write!! It's an eye opening, ugly lesson that one has to learn to survive here.
Posted By: Sitka deer Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
ropes
"Seems like I remember voting on that issue about 3 or 4 times and I haven't ever seen it pass or be moved North yet !!!!"

Then your memory is off... The first vote was to move the cap to Willow and it passed. Following that came two blocking votes designed to roil the water. Ridiculously high cost initiatives were voted on to appropriate money to move the cap. They were very high estimates and did not include the money that would be saved by moving the cap. They also included a ton of money to keep Juneau from collapsing.

Those initiatives failed. Big difference, IMO.

My experiences in Juneau talking to my reps were not particularly rewarding... And Juneau was a big part of it.
art
Posted By: Sitka deer Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
While considering Wooten's four divorces, realize Palin's sis did not change her name to Wooten and does not go by her given name... I suppose she has at least one other failed marriage... That and the fact Wooten has step-children with her.

Isaac
I suspect you are exactly right on the small-time nature of this stuff. Otherwise she would not have been picked.
art
Posted By: derby_dude Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by Steve_NO
dude, you obviously don't know dick about working women. And have a weird definition of conservative.


Now, if she expected YOU to pay to take care of her kids, that wouldn't be conservative.


I do know dick about working women. If they take care of their kids, they are hardly ever at work but expect to still be paid. If they put their work first and kids second than somebody else is taking care of the kids. Either way it's bad for America.

As to me paying for them I pay for ALL working Mothers to work either directly through welfare and work subsidies or indirectly through poor work performance on the job.

As to being a conservative, if a woman chooses the career path of Motherhood, a very honorable career, than as a conservative I expect her to tend to her children. When one of those children has DS and she has chosen to keep that child, an honorable decision, than that, as a conservative woman, should be her first priority.

To me Palin is a Feminazi, more conservative than most, but a Feminazi none the less. As to who to vote for, well it has to be McCain/Palin because they suck less than the co-presidency of the Obamas.
Posted By: hunter1960 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by isaac
Guys...with all considered respect, Alaska just moved to DC.

It's big boy time now. Local Alaska won't be a real deciding factor in the gig now!!

Sorry, but it's a fact.

If Palin keeps her roots, as she undoubtedly will, a local cop tasing their kid and some nepotism like sparring over a ugly divorce is a mere whimper of noise compared to the real game once once you hit this beltway.

Palin will be hit by the real big time now. This is not softball.

She's being educated on the DC world of politics as we write!! It's an eye opening, ugly lesson that one has to learn to survive here.


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Most certainly, if the girl has any ghosts, there getting ready to come out of the closet.
Posted By: derby_dude Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by Everyday Hunter
Originally Posted by derby_dude
I think all you young pups are thinking with your little head instead of your big head.

Yup she is cute but I have trouble with a women who is suppose to be conservative with 5 kids that someone else has to care for especially with one that has DS. That's not conservative to me.

A conservative women would stay home to tend to the kids.

I feel sorry for her children without a Mom. frown

I thought a real woman could have it all -- career, kids, yada, yada. A conservative comes along with the life the feminazis have been preaching that all women can have, she has 5 kids, refuses an abortion, rises to the top in a man's world, she's beautiful, and suddenly she's accused of not being conservative. You'd rather she was ugly?

Steve


I think it says somewhere in the Bible that man can't serve two Masters. That says it all with the two career woman as far as I'm concerned.
Posted By: derby_dude Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by Sitka deer
DD
Most North Slope jobs are on a two-weeks on, two-weeks off schedule and that actually leaves a LOT more time for Todd to be a father. I did it for 23 years.

The Bristol Bay salmon run lasts about 3 weeks and the kids are probably out there with Todd having the absolute best times of their lives. It is more about the lifestyle than anything else.
art


I'll concede the point Art. You know about that more than I do. I was only going by newspaper accounts.
Posted By: Barkoff Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by Stan V
Originally Posted by Barkoff
Originally Posted by Stan V
Reagan won without being a Washington insider, but he was in his late 60's and was governor of the most populated state in the Union that budget wise was larger than most countries.....he had a lifetime of conservative values and experience. A lifetime.....and he was voted the nomination based on what he said and how he conducted himself during the primaries.

Now, I'm happy Mrs. Palin is conservative and everything we look for in a candidate, but would she have been this attractive (policy wise) 2 years ago before becoming governor of Alaska? Her looks don't hurt her and that's a fact! I don't want to see conservatives being selected for VP from city counsel's next....I simply prefer more seasoning. Just like my BBQ ribs......


To question why Palin is a good choice, you need to ask why Obama is a good choice. If Obama can rally this kind of support with no experience but rather, youth, good looks and personality, well then maybe in this day and age that needs to be considered.



Don't we conservatives expect the left to nominate clueless worms like O? Palin was selected, not nominated......


Most here scoffed at the idea of McCain, but then he won running as a moderate. He ran on moderate views, and reached out to moderate conservatives, most here said he was wrong to do so, but here he is. He beat those who ran as most here advocated. Duncan Hunter, Romney, Paul, Thompson, where are they now?

My point? I'm willing at this point to respect his judement on such matters, he seems to have a finger on the pulse of things more so than you or I or most here.

Sure he could have picked Romney or the Gov from Minn, but can you say with any certainity that those picks (although probablly making more sence) would have generated as much enthusiasm, attention or votes as this choice did?
Posted By: ropes Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
OK ... art ... you shook my old Alzheimer's brain ... I now remeber voting to move the cap to Willow a very futuristic and surreal plan. And voting against any of the extream funding for the move. Must have been like the majority of Ak. The Cap is still in Juneau even though Sister Sarah has been moving it north ... piecemeal ....

Artic ... I am aware of the 70% to 90% approval rating Sister Sarah has. Like i mentioned much different than describing the JOB she is doing as Gov. I have never heard anywhere in any poll or other wise that she has done a stellar or absolutely excellent job. In fact in my part of SE reports are kinda like I said 'middle of the road'.

I am very knowledgeable about the 'bridge to nowhere' and the 'road to nowhere' which probably launched Sister Sarah. She even hinged on it in her acceptance speech.

I just threw a few facts out there.

I have hunters inbound and have Goat, Black Bears and Sitka Deers to kill. Just had a few moments and kinda enjoyed some of the posts by all the people that are just in-love with the Wasilla Barbie.

Thanks for the enjoyable morning .... carry on.
Posted By: Ackleyfan Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
DD,Her kids will definately loose some Important time with mom and dad in this deal it will be a juggling act and I'm sure they will manage best they can,But I appreciate her family making the sacrafice so obama and biden don't have their run of things,would you rather have Rosie o'donnell?
Posted By: Nebraska Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by Ackleyfan
I appreciate her family making the sacrafice so obama and biden don't have their run of things


+1

Considering it taking care of her grandkids.....
Posted By: Everyday Hunter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Someone said...
Quote
Sarah Palin is a female Teddy Roosevelt!

We've been looking for another Teddy Roosevelt for a hundred years now. We just never looked for him in a dress until now!

Steve
Posted By: Ackleyfan Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by Popapi
Originally Posted by Ackleyfan
Standing up for abortion is more than just a "fault" Killing the unborn is not ok with GOD,and if you vote for Obama knowing he supports it, says your ok with it!
Let me say this Sir as in reading and hearing how Mr. Obama fill about abortiona and if ALL of what you say is true about him do YOU think GOD will allow this man to prosper or actually be our next POTUS if he does he will NOT last. I will cast my vote as how I see fit and if I'm wrong GOD please forgive me...

Popai,you really need to do your homework on this guy,do a search on his voting record on abortion,partial birth abortion and Infanticide and his pastor Jeremiah Wright,which has preached hate to him for over 20 yrs,He doesn't even salute the American flag....Come on get a clue!
Posted By: Sassy Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
He probably won't return the salute of our military even if he were commander in chief (Oh my God did I just write that). But it's most likely true since he won't salute our flag he sure won't have any respect for our troops.
Posted By: Everyday Hunter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by derby_dude
Originally Posted by Everyday Hunter
Originally Posted by derby_dude
I think all you young pups are thinking with your little head instead of your big head.

Yup she is cute but I have trouble with a women who is suppose to be conservative with 5 kids that someone else has to care for especially with one that has DS. That's not conservative to me.

A conservative women would stay home to tend to the kids.

I feel sorry for her children without a Mom. frown

I thought a real woman could have it all -- career, kids, yada, yada. A conservative comes along with the life the feminazis have been preaching that all women can have, she has 5 kids, refuses an abortion, rises to the top in a man's world, she's beautiful, and suddenly she's accused of not being conservative. You'd rather she was ugly?

Steve


I think it says somewhere in the Bible that man can't serve two Masters. That says it all with the two career woman as far as I'm concerned.

By applying that to a woman and not to a man, you're either befuddled, or are feigning befuddlement.

Steve
Posted By: bassetman Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Palin is a moose hunter, NRA lifer, and wants to drill for oil.....plus she's nice to look at. She exceeds everything I want in a VP. I can't wait to have her as a vice president and then president through 2020.
Posted By: Ackleyfan Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Amazing how folks just can't see thru this guy!
Posted By: isaac Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
I think it says somewhere in the Bible that man can't serve two Masters. That says it all with the two career woman as far as I'm concerned.
_________________________

It's "Man" can't serve two masters!! How did you segue that into your thought processes?

What's gotten into you lately,man? You confusing your pills??
Posted By: derby_dude Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by Everyday Hunter
Originally Posted by derby_dude
Originally Posted by Everyday Hunter
Originally Posted by derby_dude
I think all you young pups are thinking with your little head instead of your big head.

Yup she is cute but I have trouble with a women who is suppose to be conservative with 5 kids that someone else has to care for especially with one that has DS. That's not conservative to me.

A conservative women would stay home to tend to the kids.

I feel sorry for her children without a Mom. frown

I thought a real woman could have it all -- career, kids, yada, yada. A conservative comes along with the life the feminazis have been preaching that all women can have, she has 5 kids, refuses an abortion, rises to the top in a man's world, she's beautiful, and suddenly she's accused of not being conservative. You'd rather she was ugly?

Steve


I think it says somewhere in the Bible that man can't serve two Masters. That says it all with the two career woman as far as I'm concerned.

By applying that to a woman and not to a man, you're either befuddled, or are feigning befuddlement.

Steve


I'm not befuddled. Since time immortal, it was the man's job to bring home the bacon and the woman's job to be the care giver and nurturer. That's why women get pregnant and not men. The traditional family is still the best way to raise kids after everything else has been tried. On this I'm an ultra ultra ultra conservative. I've seen the results with other methods and it ain't pretty. Why do you think our prisons are over flowing.

Those who choose to have children have to make the children priority #1 and everything else second. In this day and age, with most of us reaching longer longevity, there is plenty of time to pursue other careers after the kids have grown up. And yes this applies to men too.

And one more thing while I'm at it seeing as how I'm going out on a long limb and sticking my foot in my mouth, I'm sick and tired of Right-Wing Christians who preach family values and the first thing the jettison is the kids to pursue secular careers.

There now that I've pi$$ed everyone off, I'm outta here!!!!
Posted By: arctic338 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Ropes,

Good hunting, be safe.
Posted By: Everyday Hunter Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Originally Posted by derby_dude
I'm not befuddled. Since time immortal, it was the man's job to bring home the bacon and the woman's job to be the care giver and nurturer. That's why women get pregnant and not men. The traditional family is still the best way to raise kids after everything else has been tried. On this I'm an ultra ultra ultra conservative. I've seen the results with other methods and it ain't pretty. Why do you think our prisons are over flowing.

Those who choose to have children have to make the children priority #1 and everything else second. In this day and age, with most of us reaching longer longevity, there is plenty of time to pursue other careers after the kids have grown up. And yes this applies to men too.

And one more thing while I'm at it seeing as how I'm going out on a long limb and sticking my foot in my mouth, I'm sick and tired of Right-Wing Christians who preach family values and the first thing the jettison is the kids to pursue secular careers.

There now that I've pi$$ed everyone off, I'm outta here!!

OK. One paragraph at a time (even though you won't read this 'cause you're outta here):

You make a good point, and one many conservative Christians will agree with. I find it a little odd, however, that people will use the Bible to affirm their political & social worldview, but somehow overlook or even reject the fundamental message of the Bible, that all humanity is broken (that puts you and me into the same category) and we need a redeemer.

All of us have differing capabilities in what we are able to pursue, while keeping our families as first priority. I cannot judge for you, or Palin, or O'bama, or anyone else. I can judge it only for me. Sometimes I don't measure up. By the grace of God, sometimes I do.

Let's let Sarah Palin and her husband decide whether they're jettisoning their kids. As for me, I think her kids will measure up just fine against most of the kids I see raised by permissive, left-wing parents, as well as most kids raised by country-club conservatives with a self-absorbed stay-at-home wife.

So that I don't miss your last paragraph, let it be known that you haven't pi$$ed me off. And bye-bye.

Steve
Posted By: fish30ought6 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
Ain't nothing wrong at all with that comment, Dude. It can be quite an issue. You fellow believers whup me if my wrong, but I can't remember an NT passage addressing that issue. Now, Proverbs 31 in the OT has quite an interesting take on what a proper wife should do - and it ain't hardly just changing diapers. She's a co-breadwinner.
Posted By: rinkydink Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
several pages back, someone expressed concern that Mrs. Palin's religion may be made an issue. Let's hope that it is. Can you imagine the millions of televisions in America simultaneously roaring, "Mr. Obama's religion believes "Not God bless America, (well you know the rest.)""

Game, set, match and religion is off the table.

Tom aka rinkydink
Posted By: crossfireoops Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
A Home Run
She Was A Member of the Buchanan Brigade

Posted by Richard Spencer -- August 29

Sarah Palin� -- Buchananite
Remember when Pat Buchanan ran a number of hard-right, fringe campaigns for president in the late 1980s, 1990s and 2000? Well, guess who was supporting him:
From an AP report in 1999: "Pat Buchanan brought his conservative message of a smaller government and an America First foreign policy to Fairbanks and Wasilla on Friday as he continued a campaign swing through Alaska. Buchanan's strong message championing states rights resonated with the roughly 85 people gathered for an Interior Republican luncheon in Fairbanks. ...Among those sporting Buchanan buttons were Wasilla Mayor Sarah Palin and state Sen. Jerry Ward, R-Anchorage."
American Patrol Comment: McCain knew Sarah Palin was a Buchanan supporter when he picked her. Buchanan has been an outspoken opponent of amnesty (i.e., so-called comprehensive immigration reform) and it is likely that she agrees with him, so this is a very encouraging move.

Posted By: Ackleyfan Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/30/08
You bring up a good point! smile
Posted By: Sanlen Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/31/08
Originally Posted by Stan V
Let's hope McCain survives the election, if he doesn't, how does she look to y'all then?

Don't read anything into that, just saying....wouldn't she change your 'feelings' at the top of the ticket? Cause, that's all I'm reading, feelings.


It wouldn't change anything with me, considering the option is Obama/Biden.

Are you kidding? This lady is gold. What more could we ask for from a values or lifestyle point of view? We might say that it would be nice (if she was suddenly on the top of the ticket) for her to have more experience, but let's face it, she has more than Obama, and (as Rush stated yesterday) Biden may have experience, but what good is experience when you're wrong about everything?

If she were suddenly in the number one job, she could pick someone like Gendrich or a Governor for her vice who had the experience, and she would not only be right, she would still have more experience than Obama, and have plenty in the VP.

I like her as the pick. It is just a pleasure to see something done right for a change.
Posted By: Sanlen Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/31/08
Originally Posted by Everyday Hunter
Originally Posted by derby_dude
I'm not befuddled. Since time immortal, it was the man's job to bring home the bacon and the woman's job to be the care giver and nurturer. That's why women get pregnant and not men. The traditional family is still the best way to raise kids after everything else has been tried. On this I'm an ultra ultra ultra conservative. I've seen the results with other methods and it ain't pretty. Why do you think our prisons are over flowing.

Those who choose to have children have to make the children priority #1 and everything else second. In this day and age, with most of us reaching longer longevity, there is plenty of time to pursue other careers after the kids have grown up. And yes this applies to men too.

And one more thing while I'm at it seeing as how I'm going out on a long limb and sticking my foot in my mouth, I'm sick and tired of Right-Wing Christians who preach family values and the first thing the jettison is the kids to pursue secular careers.

There now that I've pi$$ed everyone off, I'm outta here!!

OK. One paragraph at a time (even though you won't read this 'cause you're outta here):

You make a good point, and one many conservative Christians will agree with. I find it a little odd, however, that people will use the Bible to affirm their political & social worldview, but somehow overlook or even reject the fundamental message of the Bible, that all humanity is broken (that puts you and me into the same category) and we need a redeemer.

All of us have differing capabilities in what we are able to pursue, while keeping our families as first priority. I cannot judge for you, or Palin, or O'bama, or anyone else. I can judge it only for me. Sometimes I don't measure up. By the grace of God, sometimes I do.

Let's let Sarah Palin and her husband decide whether they're jettisoning their kids. As for me, I think her kids will measure up just fine against most of the kids I see raised by permissive, left-wing parents, as well as most kids raised by country-club conservatives with a self-absorbed stay-at-home wife.

So that I don't miss your last paragraph, let it be known that you haven't pi$$ed me off. And bye-bye.

Steve


Yep. I'd "Yes, Amen" that.
Posted By: Stan V Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/31/08
Originally Posted by Sanlen
Originally Posted by Stan V
Let's hope McCain survives the election, if he doesn't, how does she look to y'all then?

Don't read anything into that, just saying....wouldn't she change your 'feelings' at the top of the ticket? Cause, that's all I'm reading, feelings.


It wouldn't change anything with me, considering the option is Obama/Biden.

Are you kidding? This lady is gold. What more could we ask for from a values or lifestyle point of view? We might say that it would be nice (if she was suddenly on the top of the ticket) for her to have more experience, but let's face it, she has more than Obama, and (as Rush stated yesterday) Biden may have experience, but what good is experience when you're wrong about everything?

If she were suddenly in the number one job, she could pick someone like Gendrich or a Governor for her vice who had the experience, and she would not only be right, she would still have more experience than Obama, and have plenty in the VP.

I like her as the pick. It is just a pleasure to see something done right for a change.



I guess most our thinking our Messiah trumps their Messiah? O has nothing to do with what I think of Palin's experience for OUR side.....believing in conservative ideas is what I look for in a candidate but I prefer more testing....that's when character is found.
Posted By: derby_dude Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/31/08
Originally Posted by Everyday Hunter
Originally Posted by derby_dude
I'm not befuddled. Since time immortal, it was the man's job to bring home the bacon and the woman's job to be the care giver and nurturer. That's why women get pregnant and not men. The traditional family is still the best way to raise kids after everything else has been tried. On this I'm an ultra ultra ultra conservative. I've seen the results with other methods and it ain't pretty. Why do you think our prisons are over flowing.

Those who choose to have children have to make the children priority #1 and everything else second. In this day and age, with most of us reaching longer longevity, there is plenty of time to pursue other careers after the kids have grown up. And yes this applies to men too.

And one more thing while I'm at it seeing as how I'm going out on a long limb and sticking my foot in my mouth, I'm sick and tired of Right-Wing Christians who preach family values and the first thing the jettison is the kids to pursue secular careers.

There now that I've pi$$ed everyone off, I'm outta here!!

OK. One paragraph at a time (even though you won't read this 'cause you're outta here):

You make a good point, and one many conservative Christians will agree with. I find it a little odd, however, that people will use the Bible to affirm their political & social worldview, but somehow overlook or even reject the fundamental message of the Bible, that all humanity is broken (that puts you and me into the same category) and we need a redeemer.

All of us have differing capabilities in what we are able to pursue, while keeping our families as first priority. I cannot judge for you, or Palin, or O'bama, or anyone else. I can judge it only for me. Sometimes I don't measure up. By the grace of God, sometimes I do.

Let's let Sarah Palin and her husband decide whether they're jettisoning their kids. As for me, I think her kids will measure up just fine against most of the kids I see raised by permissive, left-wing parents, as well as most kids raised by country-club conservatives with a self-absorbed stay-at-home wife.

So that I don't miss your last paragraph, let it be known that you haven't pi$$ed me off. And bye-bye.

Steve


Hi Steve, I'm Baaaaaack. I went to an open house for a new Mom and her almost new baby, 4 1/2 months old.

I think the Bible makes some good points, I just don't think it is the absolute word of God or that I need a redeemer. I don't want to hijack the thread but I did want to clear this up.

You are right that her private life is her and her husband's business except she has chosen to run for Vice-President. I'm nervous with a Mom who has four children left at home with one having special disabilities that requires a full time Mom.

I read Dan Quayle's book of his Vice-President experiences with small children. It wasn't pretty and he was a Father not a Mother.

Here's my questions:

1. Is Dad going to give up working so he becomes the house husband?
2. If Dad doesn't quit his job, are they going to hire a professional nanny to care for the kids?
3. If non of the above, who will take care of the kids?
4. Who's going to take care of the DS child?

These questions need to be answered before I'm going to get too excited with the McCain/Palin ticket. My experience with working Mothers has not been good. I find working Mothers have poor job performance. The job performance of Vice-President and President has not been that good lately, the last thing we need is even worst performance due to a working Mother.
Posted By: Ron_T Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/31/08
Breathing a sigh-of-relief here... I like the McCain's choice for V.P. ... she sounds like MY KIND of woman... honest, forthright, a no monkey-business type gal.

YES !!!!!
Posted By: The_Real_Hawkeye Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/31/08
Originally Posted by crossfireoops
A Home Run
She Was A Member of the Buchanan Brigade

Posted by Richard Spencer -- August 29

Sarah Palin� -- Buchananite
Remember when Pat Buchanan ran a number of hard-right, fringe campaigns for president in the late 1980s, 1990s and 2000? Well, guess who was supporting him:
From an AP report in 1999: "Pat Buchanan brought his conservative message of a smaller government and an America First foreign policy to Fairbanks and Wasilla on Friday as he continued a campaign swing through Alaska. Buchanan's strong message championing states rights resonated with the roughly 85 people gathered for an Interior Republican luncheon in Fairbanks. ...Among those sporting Buchanan buttons were Wasilla Mayor Sarah Palin and state Sen. Jerry Ward, R-Anchorage."
American Patrol Comment: McCain knew Sarah Palin was a Buchanan supporter when he picked her. Buchanan has been an outspoken opponent of amnesty (i.e., so-called comprehensive immigration reform) and it is likely that she agrees with him, so this is a very encouraging move.

That's all I need to know. I'm voting Palin '08. McCain is the wart on the ticket. I'm thinking long term. It's a shame, though, that her prospects for a future presidency may be sullied by a four or eight year association with the man. I hope he doesn't screw up too bad (ala George W. Bush) during his presidency so as to give Palin a shot when he's done.
Posted By: The_Real_Hawkeye Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/31/08
Originally Posted by Sanlen
Biden may have experience, but what good is experience when you're wrong about everything?
Exactly the point I've been making.
Posted By: Sassy Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/31/08
Originally Posted by derby_dude
I'm nervous with a Mom who has four children left at home with one having special disabilities that requires a full time Mom.

I read Dan Quayle's book of his Vice-President experiences with small children. It wasn't pretty and he was a Father not a Mother.


Puleezeeeeeee....You are quoting Dan Qualye, I repeat Dan Qualye.
(Sorry I was raised in a democrat household in Indiana!)

From what I can see she has teenagers that appear to be clean cut responsible kids (that is no small feat in this day and age). One of them even joined the army and I'll bet the courts didn't make it a suggestion. She is proud of her kids and they seem to be quite well raised even though she is holding a 24/7 job as Governor.

I stayed home and raised my kids except for a few brief periods when it was necessary for me to work and my kids turned out to be good, well rounded individuals but it wasn't just because I stayed home with them. It was because they had responsible parents who raised them well. (Pat on my own and Greenhornet's
back).

I have friends and relatives where both father and mother worked and guess what they also raised good, well rounded individuals. Those kids had more things than mine did but they appreciated them as mine would have if I had done the same thing.

My mother worked almost everyday of her adult life as did my father and none of my three siblings or I are alcoholics, druggies, or in prison, and never have been. We were taught you had to work to earn something and make something of yourself. None of us are divorced or separated, and we are all happily married.

It's the FAMILY VALUES you are taught by your parents. I think Sarah Palin and her husband have taught and are teaching their children good family values!

I think she will manage quite nicely as our vice-president and her children will be better for it. And I truly believe our country will be better for it.

I'm getting off of my soapbox now, I'm getting dizzy from the height.

Posted By: The_Real_Hawkeye Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/31/08
Originally Posted by Sassy
Originally Posted by derby_dude
I'm nervous with a Mom who has four children left at home with one having special disabilities that requires a full time Mom.

I read Dan Quayle's book of his Vice-President experiences with small children. It wasn't pretty and he was a Father not a Mother.


Puleezeeeeeee....You are quoting Dan Qualye, I repeat Dan Qualye.
(Sorry I was raised in a democrat household in Indiana!)

From what I can see she has teenagers that appear to be clean cut responsible kids (that is no small feat in this day and age). One of them even joined the army and I'll bet the courts didn't make it a suggestion. She is proud of her kids and they seem to be quite well raised even though she is holding a 24/7 job as Governor.

I stayed home and raised my kids except for a few brief periods when it was necessary for me to work and my kids turned out to be good, well rounded individuals but it wasn't just because I stayed home with them. It was because they had responsible parents who raised them well. (Pat on my own and Greenhornet's
back).

I have friends and relatives where both father and mother worked and guess what they also raised good, well rounded individuals. Those kids had more things than mine did but they appreciated them as mine would have if I had done the same thing.

My mother worked almost everyday of her adult life as did my father and none of my three siblings or I are alcoholics, druggies, or in prison, and never have been. We were taught you had to work to earn something and make something of yourself. None of us are divorced or separated, and we are all happily married.

It's the FAMILY VALUES you are taught by your parents. I think Sarah Palin and her husband have taught and are teaching their children good family values!

I think she will manage quite nicely as our vice-president and her children will be better for it. And I truly believe our country will be better for it.

I'm getting off of my soapbox now, I'm getting dizzy from the height.

All four of my grandparents worked while raising their kids (both my parents amongst them). They worked alternating shifts when the kids were young.
Posted By: fish30ought6 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/31/08
I was raised in a co-working house back when it wasn't cool. Come to think of it, many if not most of the moms worked at least part time. And this was in the 1950s in a tiny, blue collar, Tennessee town.
Posted By: fish30ought6 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/31/08
But all the moms took it upon themselves to raise everybody's children ...
Posted By: isaac Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/31/08
I certainly hope the Dems don't attempt to bring up our friend, Derby Dude's, talking points.

Wait, I take that back. Yes,I do!!
Posted By: 340boy Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/31/08
I think it is going to be a very interesting election 'season' with McCain/Palin kicking azz on the socialist Obama!
grin grin
Posted By: derby_dude Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/31/08
Okay I give up. I hope you are all right and I'm wrong and she is the best super duper VP and President we have ever had. I hope her kids turn out just fine.

Me personally, I question her ability to be a part-time VP and a full time Mom. And I question her ability to be a part-time President when it's her turn at bat.

At least when the Republican Presidency goes to hell in a hand basket it won't be my fault.

As to being the full time Governor of Alaska, I would imagine it's about the same as being full time Governor of Montana, a piece of cake except when the legislature is in town and even that is a piece of cake compared to being VP or President.

Tim
Posted By: fish30ought6 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/31/08
Your pessimism is noted, Dude, and understood. But first things first: the Obama dream machine must be wrecked.
Posted By: fish30ought6 Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/31/08
Oh yeah, just noticed your signature. Without "Self-reliance, free thinking, and capitalism" the pilgrims would not have gotten on that boat.
Posted By: STA Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/31/08
When I see Palin on the news I see a person who is PRO-GUN, PRO-LIFE,and PRO-REFORM. Now thats a candidate I can connect with!



(plus she hunts!)
Posted By: Sassy Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/31/08
I believe that all of our presidents had families also. Did that make them a part time president and a part time parent? I don't think so. Sure would be nice if we could all just stay home and raise our kids without working.

What you are talking about is a double-standard. One standard for men and another for women. I am NOT a women's libber by any means but I do recognize the fact that women are just as capable as men when it comes raising a family and working. Some men are just as able to stay home and raise a family while the wife works. I see nothing wrong with that as long as the spouse at home is actually working at raising the family and not laying about living off the hard work of the spouse. (insert father or mother in place of spouse).

This isn't the 50's and Mrs. Cleaver is no longer the ideal that women look up to. As the old Virginia Slims ads said "We've come a long way baby!" I'm not a libber but I for one do appreciate getting away from the old 'barefoot and pregnant' system that used to permeate society. I believe it is up to the husband and wife to decide who works to support the family or if they both should. It's nobody's business except theirs.

Derby it is time to come down off the mountain and find out what is really happening today. It tain't half bad down here.

Posted By: Pugs Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/31/08
Originally Posted by fish30ought6
Oh yeah, just noticed your signature. Without "Self-reliance, free thinking, and capitalism" the pilgrims would not have gotten on that boat.


Except the Pilgrims were socialist when they got off the boat. Didn't take them long to figure out that didn't work then (and won't work now) grin
Posted By: The_Real_Hawkeye Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/31/08
Originally Posted by Sassy
This isn't the 50's and Mrs. Cleaver is no longer the ideal that women look up to.
I always thought it was funny when June Cleaver would dress to the nines, hair salon-perfect, to do her house work.

That said, I see nothing wrong, and a lot right, with the traditional American family structure of the wife/mother being the primary home maker and child rearer (an awesomely important role in both the family and society), while the man is the primary bread winner and disciplinarian. Call me a sexist if you must, but that seems most in accord with nature to me.
Posted By: Longbob Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/31/08
I don't see anything wrong with the "June Cleaver" example and I don't see it as sexist. I see it as June taking pride in her responsibilities. Just as many men are the primary provider for the family along with the duties as master spider killer. Sometimes it is the best utilization of resources and abilities.
Posted By: Sassy Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/31/08
There is nothing wrong with the traditional American family. I was a stay at home mom for most of the years my kids were growing up. But I was no June Cleaver by any means although I did have my own Beaver Cleaver(Les).

I would love to see families going back to being traditional families again, but the reality is I don't see it happening. There is too much, 'I have to have it all now' and the only way to get it is by both parents working.

I don't think it is sexist by the way. In today's world though I don't see it happening. I guess I'm too much of a realist.
Posted By: The_Real_Hawkeye Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/31/08
Originally Posted by Sassy
There is nothing wrong with the traditional American family. I was a stay at home mom for most of the years my kids were growing up. But I was no June Cleaver by any means although I did have my own Beaver Cleaver(Les).

I would love to see families going back to being traditional families again, but the reality is I don't see it happening. There is too much, 'I have to have it all now' and the only way to get it is by both parents working.

I don't think it is sexist by the way. In today's world though I don't see it happening. I guess I'm too much of a realist.
The only reason couples find it hard to have single wage earner households these days is socialism in America, i.e., high taxes and redistribution. Add to that the devalued dollar, and you have your answer.
Posted By: jorgeI Re: IT'S PALIN - 08/31/08
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Sassy
There is nothing wrong with the traditional American family. I was a stay at home mom for most of the years my kids were growing up. But I was no June Cleaver by any means although I did have my own Beaver Cleaver(Les).

I would love to see families going back to being traditional families again, but the reality is I don't see it happening. There is too much, 'I have to have it all now' and the only way to get it is by both parents working.

I don't think it is sexist by the way. In today's world though I don't see it happening. I guess I'm too much of a realist.
The only reason couples find it hard to have single wage earner households these days is socialism in America, i.e., high taxes and redistribution. Add to that the devalued dollar, and you have your answer.


I don't agree that's the main reason. It's the modern day assault on traditional roles, materialism and the so-called female liberation. If a couple wants to get married and raise a family, then ONE needs to stay home and raise the children and forgo the more expensive things in life. I've sated my issues with a woman in the role of VP (or any other executive position, not t mention the martial professions) but I am more than willing to give this fine lady the benefit of the doubt and more importantly, she is LIGHT years ahead of any democrap. jorge
Posted By: Sycamore Re: IT'S PALIN - 09/01/08
Originally Posted by Swift
She will be just fine. As close to a normal person as we may ever see in the Whitehouse in our lifetime.


+1000

Sycamore
Posted By: Violator22 Re: IT'S PALIN - 09/01/08
Wow, I think my Mom, just said I'm normal, not quite how to sure to take that. Palin is the BEST THING to hit the Republican party in a LONG time. Les
Posted By: Swift Re: IT'S PALIN - 09/01/08
Originally Posted by Violator22
I think my Mom, just said I'm normal, not quite how to sure to take that.


I'm not quite how to sure to take that either..... see your're not normal! LOL
Posted By: Ken Howell Re: IT'S PALIN - 09/01/08
Les, if you're normal, you don't have anything to worry about �

� but the rest of us do! grin
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