Will add that the level of civility, common sense and relaxed discussion of reality has advanced enormously beyond the last time I ventured near any long range thread. With a number of people here it is now possible to actually discuss the miss factors and odds in making a long range hit, how to overcome them, and do it rationally as a problem to be solved rather than as emotional tenets of a faith. I scale back my comments about long range cultists, sincerely and with apology to the many here who shoot long range without the emotional trappings. You are becoming a majority compared to a few years ago. That is good to see.
FWIW I killed an elk at at least 690 yards one time but do not consider myself a long range hunter, though I like to have as many tools as possible available.
